I've seen so many threads on trauma-based mind control derailed, that at this point it just makes me feel sad. Used to get really angry and verbally lambaste whoever was playing games with survivors, but today I'm just too tired to take them on. So a huge Thank You to everyone who did so.
And another
fervent thanks to compared2what for this:
My guess is Hyper-dualist Western Monist Personality Disorder. And sure, some people will probably try to tell you that's a "controversial" diagnosis. Or that I'm "just making it up as I type." But you know the routine. The truth is that it's so shamefully under-diagnosed it's practically the rule rather than the exception.
I never had a term for this kind of behavior before, but have encountered it often on boards that include a lot of smart (mostly young) people who lack basic empathy. When I read one of their blithe, sniggering and condescending off-topic posts, I usually just mark them as having some probably-undiagnosed antisocial personality disorder and
way too much free time and avoid their posts from then on. But this thread is important to me and I was really worried as I read through the first pages that it was going to end up locked. So glad it didn't.
exojuridik, when I read your post I immediately thought of PJ Gaenir's disturbing online book
Bewilderness. Have you read it? If not, I think you'd find it well worth your time. In the years I've been reading RI, I can't recall ever seeing it discussed, but
I do not want to derail this thread, so if you find food for thought in it and begin another thread on her experiences, I'll happily post to it. As leery of "WOO used to derail/disinform" as I am, there's enough of it in my personal history to compel me to examine that aspect.
But most of the WOO/MC crowd are not really part of the larger wavie/MC movement, which is what I think lightningBugout was referencing in the opening post. (And before someone takes me to task for using the term "wavie" I would ask you to come up with another succinct description for people who feel they're being subjected to wave-based mind control technology. I'm
not using it as a pejoritive and will switch to your term immediately if you have one to suggest that's clearly descriptive.)
Five years ago, when I finally woke up to WTF had happened/was happening to me, I was disturbed to find that almost all mind control sites/boards were made up of wavies and addressed what I now think of as "torture at a distance." This was
not what had been operating in my life at all and I struggled to figure out (1) where the other people like me were and (2) what response to the wavies was appropriate and compassionate. Finally, I respectfully withdrew, since in most cases I was unable to discern the difference between what they were experiencing and the symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia. But I should add here that in my online reading I became convinced that *some* of the victims
were being electronically targeted and that such technology exists.
That said, what do the much less numerous survivors of the trauma-based programs do when we're lumped into the same category as the wavies and dismissed? In that sense, I can clearly see how successful that little psy-op has been in fostering knee-jerk invalidation of anyone who emerges from the MC closet and speaks out about Real World human rights violations. Most of us are just not able to be
loud enough to be heard above the sound emanating from a vast sea of mental suffering. It serves as background static that drowns out the signal when people like me speak out.
My own tactic has been to focus on that part of my own experience that was clearly Real World human instigated. The fact that 2 of my perps are government scientists employed at national laboratories and that an OSS agent was part of my family when I was born are the kind of verifiable facts that help to put my case into perspective.
The fact that I'm DID/MPD is relevant too, though, as was said earlier, half a century of deliberate denial on the part of enormously powerful former MC spychiatrists has made that diagnosis less credible to many (if not most) therapists. If the true history of the field of psychology in modern times was better-known, from Dr. Ewan Cameron on through Orne, West & Co., that denial would never have worked. But I haven't encountered a single therapist who's aware of even basic MKULTRA history, let alone all its successors and predecessors. And now that Dr. Colin Ross has recently discredited himself with his "eye beams" claims, I hesitate to even recommend his book
Bluebird/The CIA Doctors to mental health professionals
But I'm glad we're talking about it. Perhaps if we put our heads together we can come up with ways to counteract the psy-ops and focus the dialog on actual human rights abuses. I've tried several times to get activists in the field of human trafficking to look at the evidence for trauma-based mind control programs and
completely failed to get through to them. They instantly shy away from my personal, conscious memories of being bought and sold in the 60's-80's. In a way, I can understand their skittishness and realistic fears of being shunned by possible backers. But slavery is slavery. Because I'm White and American middle-class should not render my history invalid. But it does. These days, I see myself as inhabiting an invisible ghetto.
LilyPat
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