'imagine the father who molested you owning you for slavery'

[Jeff]

'The day I saw Britney Spears’ father pull a knife'

By Sharon Churcher
Last updated at 12:33 AM on 07th December 2008


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Certainly the Spears I met seven years ago at his isolated bungalow on a dirt road in rural Kentwood, Louisiana, didn’t seem the most sensitive of souls. In a terrifying encounter that lasted four hours, Britney’s father subjected me to a hostile drunken monologue while refusing to let me leave.

Every time I got up to go, he picked up a large carving knife and theatrically stabbed it into the wooden table at which we were sitting.

‘You can sleep here,’ he said. ‘You said you wanted to know what it was like being Britney.’

Two growling alsatians, a rottweiler and a man Spears claimed was a ‘bodyguard’ prowled the creaky back porch, which had been converted into a makeshift redneck bar complete with illuminated Budweiser sign, beer and whisky. An airgun lay in front of Spears.

He had been drinking heavily and was chewing Kodiak tobacco and showed me round the little house where Britney grew up while his ‘bodyguard’ cooked a huge iron pan of crayfish outside on a camping stove.

Surprisingly, the inside of the house was immaculate, almost as though no one lived there. It was also a rather spooky shrine to his famous daughter, with framed pictures, magazine covers, platinum records, concert posters and even used ticket stubs covering almost every available inch of space.

Spears told me: ‘There’s not a man on earth could be happier than me. I have got the most famous daughter in the world.’ But he admitted: ‘I squandered my money on wild women and beer.

‘Britney is focused. She’s been a star since birth. I still build but I do it when I feel like it.’

Spears then attempted to give me a drunken hug. He confided that he was all but broke, but added that Britney had bought him the smart white pick-up truck parked outside and had bought his wife Lynne, from whom he was then estranged, a Mercedes.

My bizarre encounter with the man who controls a pop empire took place in March 2002. Britney was still a fresh-faced 20-year-old but already a pop phenomenon.

I finally managed to escape after Jamie and his ‘bodyguard’ escorted me to a local bar, where he said they needed to buy more beer.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... knife.html

[Belligerent Savant]

Outside of these filthy parents that inflict torment on their own offspring for profit, the way the Media at large treat some of these [mostly female] celebrities is revolting.

Circus, indeed.

I can't imagine having to navigate around these filthy vermin as they desperately attempt to snag a snaphot to sell to the highest bidder... and the way some of them go out of their way to instigate a reaction, CREATE a "story" that can then be sold.... many of these bottom-feeder media circles clearly are in glee when a tragedy or crisis befalls one of these celebrities ["more ratings/revenue!"] and surely some of the execs to these media outlets likely reach near climax if one were to perish [or come close to perishing] in some dramatic fashion [or non-dramatic fashion, for that matter] -- The masses can look forward to 24/7 coverage for days on end, depending on the caliber of the "star" in question

The above alone would be enough to drive many into madness...

The most shameless are the rare combo of filthy parent AND Media shill, a la Lohan's putrid excuse for a human/father...

But we eat it all up, don't we? They're only providing what We The People clamor for, aren't they?
Surely all the vapid TV shows/magazines catering to the lives of these "celebrities" rake in substantial revenue/profit, and so long as that continues to hold true, the madness shall continue un-abated...

Plus, let's not forget how it serves as a useful diversion to all the other events occurring in the world today --- unjust Wars, Economic Turmoil, etc etc... clearly We Americans can only absorb one topic at a time, and why focus on the unpleasant topics when the eye and ear candy is just so much more pleasing to digest?

[Maddy]

Not to add any fuel to the fire here, but despite all the pain, torment, etc. that Courtney/Britney surely experienced in their upbringing, are we saying that they receive essentially a free pass to "act as thou whilst", with no accountability?

Absolutely not. People must take accountability for their actions. But at what stage of "self awareness" must a person be held accountable for their reactions to another person's abuses to them?

A child isn't accountable because they have no awareness of right or wrong. A mentally ill person is accountable in the regard that they are locked up if they are a harm to themselves or others. You can be mentally ill and end up in prison for what you do. But these girls are doing none of that. And even if they were, then why are those around them continuing to manipulate them and use them for their own monetary gain, rather than getting them the actual help they deserve? There are enough people around these girls to stop them, and to help them, if they truly were a danger, or if people really cared that they were a danger, or in danger.

These girls are crying out. They're trying to tell the truth, in the way they know the truth, in the way they know how to tell it. And people aren't listening. They're still using them like the little marionettes they've been made into, so that those around them may prosper.

That's slavery.

Edited for typo.

[Belligerent Savant]

Absolutely not. People must take accountability for their actions. But at what stage of "self awareness" must a person be held accountable for their reactions to another person's abuses to them?

A child isn't accountable because they have no awareness of right or wrong. A mentally ill person is accountable in the regard that they are locked up if they are a harm to themselves or others. You can be mentally ill and end up in prison for what you do. But these girls are doing none of that. And even if they were, then why are those around them continuing to manipulate them and use them for their own monetary gain, rather than getting them the actual help they deserve? There are enough people around these girls to stop them, and to help them, if they truly were a danger, or if people really cared that they were a danger, or in danger.

These girls are crying out. They're trying to tell the truth, in the way they know the truth, in the way they know how to tell it. And people aren't listening. They're still using them like the little marionettes they've been made into, so that those around them may prosper.

That's slavery.

very well-worded response -- thanks for expanding on my initial post...

[Jeff]

This thread adds tragedy to the absurdity of the Lady Gaga, Illuminati puppet discussion.

I can't think of another successful young female performer who has as much control over her own image and expression, or as much intelligence. Yet it's Gaga who is called a robot, a poster-girl for Illuminati mind control. The persistant myth of her hermaphroditism is perfect: she can't be a woman. As for the broken girls: Remember ...... they wanted the fame.

[Maddy]

[Jeff]

Another generation. But yeah, nobody's puppet.

[Nordic]

To me, this discussion brings up a class nature vs. nurture debate.

From every first hand account I have heard, and I have heard quite a few, Courtney Love is one of the most despicable and wretched human beings that these people have ever come into contact with.

I have heard this uniformly, and from people who normally don't dish dirt on the celebrities with whom they have worked. People who are normally very professional and discreet.

Yet when the subject of Courtney comes up, off they go. They explode with vindictive venom as to how awful she is and how they wouldn't work with her again if you paid them.

So, what I sense going on here is sort of a reverse victimhood sexism -- the assumption that IF a woman performer acts like a drug-addled nutjob, then she MUST be a victim of some man, probably her father.

This is an assumption that I have issues with, because, well, it's an assumption!

Can't some people just be BORN ASSHOLES? I know plenty of men who are, and we usually don't go into compassionate hand-wringing about what pretty little victims they were (okay sometimes we speculate on what could have possibly led them to such bad behavior, but not like we do with the women).

Some people are just born rotten and we should always keep that in mind.

Basically I'm saying I see a difference in how we treat the women as to how we treat the men.

[streeb]

Courtney doesn't seem 'born-damaged' to me; just damaged. And the stink coming off her dad is too, too much to ignore.

[barracuda]

From every first hand account I have heard, and I have heard quite a few, Courtney Love is one of the most despicable and wretched human beings that these people have ever come into contact with.

It just goes to show ya - every discreetly given first-hand account I have heard of Courtney has been highly sympathetic.

Assholism is in the eye of the beholder.

[Jeff]

It just goes to show ya - every discreetly given first-hand account I have heard of Courtney has been highly sympathetic.

Likewise.

[LilyPatToo]

I read an article online a while back (that I think was first published in a fashion magazine?) in which her family circumstances were described and they were beyond terrible. I wish my memory of it was sharper or that I had a link to share, but I don't. Looked for one when I made the post above, but couldn't find it. Since I'm not into her music and before that article had zero interest in her, I'm afraid the details never made it into longterm memory storage. But the degree of upset I felt while reading it and my certainty that she was a survivor of real abuse is still with me.

And I agree that some people do seem to have been born mean, but I want to be clear on the reason why I posted what I did about Courtney Love. I wasn't just generalizing about "poor little abuse survivors" believe me.

LilyPat

[Maddy]

Courtney's father, Hank Harrison, is a nutjob who was giving his daughter acid at the age of 3-4 years old. He was legally mandated to not see her nor go around her due to this and other abuses. Then her mother parades her around, no stability, to a bunch of hippy communes, and here is where the assumption comes in, but I can imagine what was happening there, even in the best of them, back then.

Her's isn't the first or only story about children being given acid (or other drugs) by their parents back in the day. There's a thread here, somewhere, about MacKenzie Phillips and Laural Canyon. And there were tons of acid tests through MK-Ultra as well, including those on children. So its not too far from the imagination that she and her mother are telling the truth about that.

I am sure that living the lifestyle she was raised in was not the most conducive environment to a healthy psyche. Kind of like being raised to be a little doll for others to play with, parade around, and manipulate isn't exactly healthy.



I don't get why people can believe things about MK-Ultra and all of the abuses that have gone on throughout the years, in so many ways, by the government, but when it comes to an individual character suddenly people are reluctant to beleive what they say. This makes absolutely no sense to me. It reminds me of "Well, it can happen in a third world country, but it never could happen next door!"

[Maddy]

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Courtney Love Cobain http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... knife.html weep weep and weep

Courtney Love Cobain hey what do i know i didnt mean to offend anyyone that needs to has texted me and im dealing with my matters privately , per ms spears i was passionately upset and no i am not apologising for doing the right thing it simply isnt my plac to discuss as othr people have experieinced the same thing from he same man they can discuss it amongst themselves and publically ,

Courtney Love Cobain GOD BLESS THE FEDERALES< i may be kooky but im kooky like a fox and thank god they have come, so ill be updating on music only from now on and the occasional passionate opinion or co,mpassionate fact, thanks

[compared2what?]

Another generation. But yeah, nobody's puppet.

Sadly, everything she does -- and, really, I do mean "everything" -- is at the behest of the leaders of the Kaballah Centre, the other cult that celebrities can't seem to learn to avoid.

She was nobody's puppet until, roughly, the mid-'90s or so, though. And quasi-independent until, maybe, 2000-ish. Or thereablouts. But the last ten years: Somebody's puppet. The definition of it.

Breaks my heart.