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It has proved more difficult to find hard evidence of official child abuse, in part due to the ferocious defense the intelligence community has mounted, and in part due to the work of organizations that claim that childhood memories of abuse are invalid.
"I've seen too much from the Secret Government to jump to the conclusion that this is, any of this is being done by aliens. We have to be sure, first, that it's not being done by human beings. I include in that, by the way, the UFOs that are appearing in the skies, and being videoed, the whole phenomenon. The reason is, that if you read the documents that have been declassified under the FOIA, about the MKUltra Project that was conducted by the CIA in the 60s & 70s, what you read there is the activities of psychotics engaged in insane programs that used and abuse the minds of innocent people, that make the activities of the Nazi doctors at Auschwitz look tame. And this was done by Americans in the continental United States, under a cloak of secrecy. It is among the most evil things human beings have ever done to other human beings. It was done by the United States government's Central Intelligence Agency. That is a real, true fact. MKUltra was a real program that induced people to become psychotic using LSD. It's in black and white, it's in court records, it's real. People who did something like that are capable of anything. The fact that those people remain concealed, behind a barrier of secrecy, from public scrutiny, means that objects appearing in the human body, implants that seem to have something to do with mind control, we have to investigate FIRST, the secret government, SECOND, we look for aliens. We've got a monster on our hands, behind the cloak of secrecy. We've gotta get rid of it. Our country has cancer. Our country's freedom is dying of the cancer. The cancer is called CIA, NSA, NRO, DIA, those are the acronyms of the death of freedom."
Interview: "What was it that ...turned you around to looking at terrestrial origins of these encounters?"
Whitley: "Because I remember when this implant was put in my ear, and I saw the people who did it, and they were people, not aliens.:
Talking about some of his abduction and/or contact experiences, he says:
"And some of them, I would say that they have the quality of reality about them, I would be, I, I, I would be surprised if it wasn't alien contact. But, as I say, until I know for sure what the government's been doing, I can't say that for certain. I've gotta get that, sort of static cleared out of the system first, to be sure that it's not an illusion induced by some kind of psychotic government agents bent on creating a new religion, or something. Goodness knows what kind of lunatic nonsense they can come up with. But I will tell you this, if you want to find psychosis in our country, and people in need of therapy, go to the secret government, and you will find people who desperately need to be on the psychiatrist's couch. The problem is, instead of being on the psychiatrist's couch, they have absolute power, and the possession of unlimited sources of funds, and technology of almost unbelievable potency. We've put psychotics in control of the most powerful weapons in the world. And then said, 'Go do this on your own', and crazy stuff is starting to come out of there, and we better watch it, because we're in trouble."
later...Interviewer: "You say that this is occurring in the domain of the mind, this is a mental phenomenon, and that you make the connection into their (aliens) reality, a sort of hyperconsciousness..."
Whitley: "Yeah, but when I wrote that, I didn't know about the implants. This is a recent discovery, as far as I'm concerned, and I'm certain that mind control was involved, and I'll tell you why. In 1989, I had MRI scans done of 10 people who reported implants, including myself. The doctor and I read these reports, we looked at the MRI scans, and we concluded that there were no implants in these people. About 2 weeks ago, I realized, that, after Dr. Leir began taking implants out of people, that there was something wrong. So I opened up the archive and went back to the reports. And 2 of them have, plain as day, classic descriptions of implants in the heads of these people. Why didn't we know that? Why didn't we see it? I mean, anyone could see it. It doesn't even take a radiologist to see the things. They're described to a T, and you can see them in the MRI scans, clearly. Also, in 1989, a woman.....had an implant removed from her body after her death, from her ear, her left ear, the same place this one his (touches his left ear). That was not studied by a single soul until 1995. Why not? Why didn't they take it from her body, and take it directly to a lab and study it, but nobody did it in 1989. Now, I don't think there's any explanation for that except mind control. My mind was, in my opinion, affected in some way."
A bit later, Whitley says: "All bets are off now. this physical evidence means that we don't know what we are dealing with anymore. We have to start anew in that respect, and where we start is understanding the implants, and what their function is, and what they do. And it's not impossible, it's not technology that's so far beyond us that we can't possibly understand it. I already know a certain amount about the implants, cause there's already been some initial studies done. We are going to be able to understand what they do. We're going to be able to detect the signals that they generate, and that they pick up, if they do. There's no question about it, we will be able to do this. Within 5 years, we will know the answer to the implants. And once we understand what the implants do, we will be able to understand what the true meaning of the perceptions we've had are."
And...."I am not interested in drawing conclusions until I have facts. The fact I have now is there are implants in people's bodies. End of story. I have videos of UFOs. I have videos of other unknown phenomenon in the skies, that we've just never seen before, that seems related in some way.....We have the crop circles. The crop circles are real. The attempt on the part of the intelligence services to debunk the crop circles was lame and vile." (He then discusses the collusion of intelligence agencies and NPR to debunk crop circles.)
Then: "One quite prominent, in fact, a Nobel Prize-winning physicist, told me 5 years ago, he said, 'Whitley, if one word of this book is true, science has taken a kick in the shins, because we've been lied to." He said to me 3 days ago, "Science took a body blow. We've been lied to, more than lied to.' He said, 'I'm beginning to suspect I'm looking at one of the most evil things that has ever been done on this planet, and that is the concealment of the greatest secret that mankind has ever known.' I said, 'You're jumping to the conclusion that it's aliens.' And he said, 'Of course it's aliens.' I said, 'Wait a minute. Let's be clear about this. Don't do that. It's implants, right now. It's crop circles. It's video. We don't know if it's aliens yet. Let's look through the implants, the videos and the crop circles, and see what's on the other side of that. Then we can decide.'"
Then, "The secret government is like any kind of wild animal, it will do anything to survive."
And....:"This is not a free country. This is a police state, and I have an implant in my ear to prove it."
Then, "I am human. I can tell you a lot about the human being, and my being. But I'm not going to try to tell you about something else like that, especially with as little information as I actually have. What domain am I in? Am in a a domain generated by some computer in Washington, or am I in a domain that involves contact with real aliens? I don't know the answer to those questions yet, and until I do know, how can I possibly discuss that? I can't."
"I'm talking about the limitations, not of my consciousness, but of my knowledge."
He then brings up that the implant in his ear has activated, and his ear gets red and hot and starts ringing.
He says, "It's interesting, we were talking about the government, is when the implant turned on. Not when we were talking about the Visitors."
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