The Antics of Alex Jones

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Re: The Antics of Alex Jones

Postby 8bitagent » Fri Aug 26, 2016 11:55 pm

That Jimmy Kimmel "pickle canspiracy" bit is the best(and hilarious) anti-dote to Alex Jones and his nuttery.

I asked this on another thread, but can anyone remember exactly when the shift happened between the conspiracy world going from "all these terror attacks are false flags by government to blame
innocent Muslims that theyre killing in wars" to "MUSLIMS ARE THE #1 THREAT! All terrorism is Muslims, and theres so much terrorism the media isnt even reporting it all!"? When did we go from Alex Jones
and others always making documentaries comparing Bush to Hitler and the Nazis, and the ties of the Nazis to Bushes....to full on anti Semitism and even "hey maybe Hitler was misunderstood"
Was it when Red Ice went from aliens and crystals to full on neo Nazi(with David Icke as a regular guest) Was it simply when Trump threw his coif in the ring and people decided he'd be the anti "NWO" candidate?
I know the conspiracy world has always been entrenched in the far right sewers, particularly in the 90s, but the Bush era definitely brought more left leaning people like myself to that realm.
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Re: The Antics of Alex Jones

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:35 pm

Tens of Thousands of Infowars Accounts Hacked

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August 29, 2016 // 09:47 AM EST

Tens of thousands of subscriber accounts for media company Infowars are being traded in the digital underground.

Infowars, created by famed radio host and conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, produces radio, documentaries and written pieces. The dumped data relates to Prison Planet TV, which gives paying subscribers access to a variety of Infowars content. The data includes email addresses, usernames, and poorly hashed passwords.

The administrator of breach notification site Databases.Land provided a copy of 100,223 records to Motherboard for verification purposes. Vigilante.PW, another breach notification service, also has the Infowars dump listed on its site, and says the data comes from 2014. However, every record appears to have been included twice in the data, making the actual number of user accounts closer to 50,000.

Motherboard tested 20 random email addresses and their corresponding usernames on the signup page for Prison Planet TV. Of those, 19 were already linked to accounts on the site, and although one email address wasn't registered, its username was.

At the time of writing, two victims in the dump reached by Motherboard confirmed that they had signed up to Infowars/PrisonPlanet.

Infowars did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The passwords are hashed with the notoriously weak MD5 algorithm, meaning they should be trivial for hackers to crack. Indeed, Motherboard successfully obtained the actual password for a number of users with a free online service.

The user accounts are in a SQL format file, implying that the data may have been obtained via SQL-injection, an ancient and yet often still effective type of web attack. (However, exactly how the data was stolen from the site is not confirmed).

The lesson: Users can never really be sure how a website is going to store their passwords. Instead of gambling, and just hoping that they've been hashed appropriately, users should make sure to sign up to different services with unique passwords. That way, when one site is hacked and its hashes cracked, the damage will be largely limited to that one site.

Another day, another hack.

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Re: The Antics of Alex Jones

Postby elfismiles » Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:19 pm

still can't believe he KEEPS GETTING CITED by presidential candidates...

Tim Kaine: Trump Campaign Is Incorporating Conspiracy Theorists Like Alex Jones (VIDEO)
Video ››› September 12, 2016 4:15 PM EDT ››› MEDIA MATTERS STAFF
From the September 12 edition of CNN’s CNN Newsroom with Brooke Baldwin:
http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/09/1 ... nes/213015


TIM KAINE (DEMOCRATIC VICE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE): Hillary spoke in a very blunt way and called those views out. And the views need to be called out. They can't just be tolerated. They need to be called out. She said, OK, maybe I got the percentage wrong in terms of who is animated by these views, but it is very clear to all of us that the Trump campaign has given a platform -- you can call 'em whatever you want -- the alt-right movement or others, but when David Duke is doing robocalls saying vote for Donald Trump, and others who are kind of at the very fringe of the conspiracy movement, like Alex Jones, are being kind of incorporated into the campaign in ways or even the recent choices of campaign management -- this is something that is really important. And I think we do need to call it out. Because in a country that we believe should be characterized by respect, there are some views that can't just be -- you can't just be silent in the face of them. Silence in the face of views like this has caused huge problems in the past.


Tim Kaine: The Views of Alex Jones & the Alt-Right ‘Cannot Be Tolerated’ (VIDEO)
Hillary's VP appears to be unaware of the First Amendment
Paul Joseph Watson - September 13, 2016 556 Comments
http://www.infowars.com/tim-kaine-the-v ... tolerated/

Hillary Clinton’s running mate Tim Kaine gave a speech in Dayton, Ohio during which he asserted that the views of Alex Jones and the ‘Alt-Right’ in general cannot be tolerated.

elfismiles » 26 Aug 2016 13:53 wrote:Can't stand watching PJ Watson but its amazing the coverage that AJ is getting this week: top front page of Drudge, mentioned by name in Hillary speech and by Jimmy Kimmel! :eeyaa
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Re: The Antics of Alex Jones

Postby PufPuf93 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 2:23 pm

Not making a habit of watching Alex Jones, the scope of Jones's derangement had escaped my immediate attention.

It is political malpractice for a pol to mention Jones with seriousness.

Alex Jones provides cover for the real nastiness performed by those parties of great power and influence to mislead and arouse.

I have watched and enjoyed a sampling of Alex Jones, notably the covert visit to the Bohemian Grove which was probably my first experience of Jones besides a name.
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Re: The Antics of Alex Jones

Postby tapitsbo » Tue Sep 13, 2016 2:26 pm

Both Kaine and Jones have ties to the contra operations in 1980's Central America. Interesting to speculate how they may otherwise be entangled.
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Re: The Antics of Alex Jones

Postby PufPuf93 » Tue Sep 13, 2016 2:33 pm

tapitsbo » Tue Sep 13, 2016 11:26 am wrote:Both Kaine and Jones have ties to the contra operations in 1980's Central America. Interesting to speculate how they may otherwise be entangled.


Had folks and leads identified because of Iran-Contra, BCCI, and the Church Committee been taken to conclusion and those guilty been removed from public influence, the world would be a better place today.

Instead the assholes have been recycled again and again.
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Re: The Antics of Alex Jones

Postby tapitsbo » Tue Sep 13, 2016 2:47 pm

Yea because that stuff goes to the very top. I don't expect the upper echelons to be free of dirty deeds but I am surprised by how few are aware of this stuff, given the internet putting it all out in the open
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Re: The Antics of Alex Jones

Postby elfismiles » Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:17 pm

elfismiles » 13 Sep 2016 17:19 wrote:still can't believe he KEEPS GETTING CITED by presidential candidates...

Tim Kaine: Trump Campaign Is Incorporating Conspiracy Theorists Like Alex Jones (VIDEO)
Video ››› September 12, 2016 4:15 PM EDT ››› MEDIA MATTERS STAFF
From the September 12 edition of CNN’s CNN Newsroom with Brooke Baldwin:
http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/09/1 ... nes/213015


TIM KAINE (DEMOCRATIC VICE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE): Hillary spoke in a very blunt way and called those views out. And the views need to be called out. They can't just be tolerated. They need to be called out. She said, OK, maybe I got the percentage wrong in terms of who is animated by these views, but it is very clear to all of us that the Trump campaign has given a platform -- you can call 'em whatever you want -- the alt-right movement or others, but when David Duke is doing robocalls saying vote for Donald Trump, and others who are kind of at the very fringe of the conspiracy movement, like Alex Jones, are being kind of incorporated into the campaign in ways or even the recent choices of campaign management -- this is something that is really important. And I think we do need to call it out. Because in a country that we believe should be characterized by respect, there are some views that can't just be -- you can't just be silent in the face of them. Silence in the face of views like this has caused huge problems in the past.


Tim Kaine: The Views of Alex Jones & the Alt-Right ‘Cannot Be Tolerated’ (VIDEO)
Hillary's VP appears to be unaware of the First Amendment
Paul Joseph Watson - September 13, 2016 556 Comments
http://www.infowars.com/tim-kaine-the-v ... tolerated/

Hillary Clinton’s running mate Tim Kaine gave a speech in Dayton, Ohio during which he asserted that the views of Alex Jones and the ‘Alt-Right’ in general cannot be tolerated.

elfismiles » 26 Aug 2016 13:53 wrote:Can't stand watching PJ Watson but its amazing the coverage that AJ is getting this week: top front page of Drudge, mentioned by name in Hillary speech and by Jimmy Kimmel! :eeyaa


Austin’s Alex Jones: The voice in Donald Trump’s head
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By Jonathan Tilove - American-Statesman Staff 181
Updated: 3:16 p.m. Saturday, Oct. 22, 2016 | Posted: 3:30 p.m. Friday, Oct. 21, 2016
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Alex Jones’s InfoWars broadcasts from Austin have influenced how Donald Trump has conducted his campaign.

Jones has been called out and condemned by Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

Trump confidant Roger Stone says that Jones is the “model of the future” for conservative broadcasting.

It sounds like the stuff of a paranoid conspiracy theory: A man operating from a state-of-the art studio in an undisclosed location in South Austin is exercising a kind of mind control over the Republican presidential candidate.

And that this gravel-throated prophet of doom — who has been preaching against the New World Order at the very top of his barrel-chested lungs nonstop for more than two decades to what has grown into a vast, subterranean national audience — might be playing a leading role in making this the weirdest presidential race ever.

But, as the 2016 campaign draws to a close, it’s becoming plain that Austin’s Alex Jones — a right-wing broadcast personality and conspiracy theorist extraordinaire who until recently flew under the mainstream radar — might as well be the voice in Donald Trump’s head.

Trump might have heeded little of what he was told by a succession of campaign advisers, but, if you want to know what Trump is going to do or say tomorrow, or the day after tomorrow, just tune into what Alex Jones is saying on the radio and online today.

“It is surreal to talk about issues here on air and then word for word hear Trump say it two days later,” Jones said in August. “It is amazing.”
+Austin’s Alex Jones: The voice in Donald Trump’s head photo
Protesters led by radio host Alex Jones, shown here, gathered outside the doors to the Texas Senate Gallery on May 25, ... read more

Jones was still pinching himself this month, what with the Clinton campaign last Sunday releasing a new video — “This is Alex Jones” on “Donald Trump’s disturbing admiration for fringe InfoWars radio host Alex Jones” — and President Barack Obama days earlier at a rally in Greensboro, N.C., replying to Jones’ assertion that he and Hillary Clinton were both demons who, Jones said he had it on good authority, smelled like sulfur.

“Ain’t that something?” said the president, giving his hand a sniff.

“I have to tell you, it’s surreal to realize that Alex Jones, little ol’ me, is one of the main points of opposition against these monsters,” Jones said on a recent broadcast.
+Austin’s Alex Jones: The voice in Donald Trump’s head photo
WILLIAM WIDMER
Roger Stone signs books after speaking at the annual Lee Harvey Oswald conference in Harahan, La., on Oct. 15. Stone, the ... read more

Hillary for Prison. That’s Alex Jones. Obama founded ISIS. That’s Jones. The election is rigged. Again from Jones. Hillary Clinton is at death’s doorstep. Jones. And only drugs keep her going. Jones. Bill Clinton as rapist and Hillary his enabling enforcer. Jones.

These are heady days for Jones, who, while taking classes at Austin Community College after graduating from Anderson High School in 1993, got involved with Austin public access television.

It was, wrote Patrick Beach in the American-Statesman in 1997, the “weirdest, wonderfulest public access I’ve ever seen,” and Jones was its “current star.”
+Austin’s Alex Jones: The voice in Donald Trump’s head photo
On Oct. 4, Owen Shroyer, left, and Alex Jones, thought Julian Assange of WikiLeaks had sold out when he didn’t release ... read more

“He’s an absolutely riveting television presence, especially when he’s all wound up, which he usually is,” Beach wrote.

“An absolutely riveting television presence,” remains the sole such quote in his media press kit, the one that boasts of his now airing on more than 150 radio stations, of his InfoWars website’s 40 million monthly page views and 6.5 million monthly unique visitors, his half-billion YouTube views, 5 million monthly video views and 1 million monthly podcast downloads.

“He is Rush Limbaugh on steroids,” said Roger Stone, the Trump confidant who brought Trump and Jones together, referring not just to Jones’ persona but to a multiplatform reach that now dwarfs his radio and cable rivals.
+Austin’s Alex Jones: The voice in Donald Trump’s head photo
On Oct. 14, Alex Jones is overcome by emotion as he responds to news reports that suggested that his global conspiracy ... read more

“Alex Jones is cutting edge. He has found the formula. This is the model of the future,” said Stone, who has in recent months emerged as Jones’ frequent guest and political wise man.

Stone saw how ripe Jones’ anti-globalist audience was for Trump’s nationalist appeal.

“The majority of them are under 50, and they are all engaged. They are part of this digital sharing economy. They are willing to get out on the streets and do stuff,” said Angelo Carusone, executive vice president of Media Matters for America, a not-for-profit progressive media watchdog group.
+Austin’s Alex Jones: The voice in Donald Trump’s head photo
Alex Jones from his Austin Access TV show from July 25, 2001, when he predicted the U.S. would use Osama bin ... read more

“Even more so than people in the Fox News bubble or traditional right-wing radio, they are completely inoculated against the news media,” Carusone said of Jones’ following. “They don’t just think they’re all liberals. They think they are part of the globalist conspiracy run by potentially aliens and/or demons, and I’m not even being sarcastic because this is basically what the story line is.”

Jones didn’t make himself available to the Statesman for an interview.

‘Dark heart’
+Austin’s Alex Jones: The voice in Donald Trump’s head photo
On Oct. 8, Alex Jones delivered a message to Donald Trump from above the Pennybacker Bridge in West Austin that the ... read more

Coming into the 2016 campaign, Jones’ fringe bona fides were still very much intact.

What few saw coming was a Republican presidential candidate with a weakness for conspiratorial thinking who prized the reporting of the National Enquirer and had his news consumption curated by Matt Drudge, who in the last five years switched his allegiance for political news of the weird from Glenn Beck to Jones.

“Drudge gave Jones a whole new audience and access to a whole new group of thought leaders, like Donald Trump,” Carusone said.
+Austin’s Alex Jones: The voice in Donald Trump’s head photo
A rotoscoped version of Alex Jones appeared as a street prophet in Richard Linklater’s 2006 film adaptation of Philip K. Dick’s ... read more

It used to be that there were “two, three, four, five steps” between Jones spinning a conspiracy theory and it gaining broader traction. But now, Carusone said, “It’s not working its way up the food chain any more. Donald Trump is consuming it directly.”

In a major speech in Reno, Nev., at the end of August, Hillary Clinton condemned the influence of the “alt-right” on Trump’s “paranoid fever dreams.”

It is, she said, “what happens when you listen to the radio host Alex Jones, who claims that 9/11 and the Oklahoma City bombings were inside jobs. He even said, and this really is just so disgusting, he even said that the victims of the Sandy Hook massacre were child actors and no one was actually killed there. I don’t know what actually happens in somebody’s mind or how dark their heart must be, to say something like that.”
+Austin’s Alex Jones: The voice in Donald Trump’s head photo
From a video, “This is Alex Jones,” released Oct. 16 by the Hillary Clinton campaign, an image of Donald Trump’s appearance ... read more

For Clinton, it was the latest incarnation of the “vast right-wing conspiracy” that she has long seen as arrayed against her.

But, if the alt right is generally tarred as racist, Carusone said that doesn’t apply to Jones.

“He is not racist,” Carusone said, and unlike many others in the right-wing media, “he doesn’t peddle in racial anxieties. He just doesn’t.”

No matter, Jones wore proudly the “dark heart” Clinton pinned on him.

“When Hillary Clinton attacks him by name, she is only increasing his audience astronomically,” Stone said.

And, Stone said, “let’s go back to Stone’s Rules – the only thing worse in politics than being wrong is being boring. The guy’s never boring.”

Trump connection

Stone, who in 2013 wrote a book alleging that Lyndon B. Johnson killed John F. Kennedy, first met Jones in passing at a Kennedy assassination conference in Dallas. But he didn’t really get to know him until he appeared on Jones’ show last November while in Austin to talk at Brave New Books about “The Clintons’ War on Women,” written with Austin’s Robert Morrow.

On air with Jones, Stone offered to set up an interview with Trump, saying he thought they would hit it off.

The resulting December interview on Jones’ show was a little odd. Trump was a blurry, back-lit Big Brother from Trump Tower, talking about the need to increase domestic surveillance to fight terror, and bragging, “I’m the most militaristic person there is.”

Jones seemed a bit awestruck.

“My audience, 90 percent supports you,” Jones said, telling Trump that he had been brought along by Stone and Jones’ own 13-year-old son, Rex.

“I know now from top people that you actually are for real, and you understand you’re in danger, and you understand what you are doing is epic, it’s George Washington-level,” Jones told Trump.

But he still wanted Trump’s reassurance that he was not a Clinton “mole.”

“Your reputation is amazing,” Trump said. “I will not let you down. You will be very, very impressed, I hope. And I think we’ll be speaking a lot.”

Jones’ confidence in Trump was nourished by the enemies he made.

“I don’t like Trump because he patted me on the head,” Jones said recently. “I like Trump because the whole New World Order is against him.”

And there was Trump at the Republican presidential debate in Greenville, S.C., blaming President George W. Bush for 9/11.

It was 9/11 that defined Jones.

On July 25, 2001, Jones, who, at the time was still doing his cable TV show in Austin in addition to his syndicated radio show, claimed that the U.S. government was plotting a false flag terrorist attack in the United States that it would blame on the likes of Osama bin Laden as a pretext for domestic repression.

Less than two months later, Carusone said, “On 9/11, on that actual day, he started to attack the United States government.”

Some radio stations canceled Jones.

“He was just too hot,” Carusone said. “His ascent was totally blunted.”

But, Carusone said, “that set in motion the version of Alex Jones that Trump is heralding on the campaign trail.”

In the years since, Jones has built a web presence that could survive the loss of all his radio stations, and mostly bankrolls the operation with direct sales of his own products — from political paraphernalia to survivalist and health products, such as the one he swears by “that blocks the estrogen mimickers that feminize men.”

Unlike his rivals, Jones has no one to answer to.

“He was less accountable,” Carusone said. “It just makes all the difference in the world.”

Prophet with a bullhorn

Until Trump came along, Jones was, unlike his main competitors, never a partisan figure.

He was, said Carusone, more intuitive, more authentic, more consistent and more earnest. A true believer.

He was more or less the street prophet with the bullhorn he played (albeit rotoscoped) in a cameo in Richard Linklater’s 2006 film adaptation of Philip K. Dick’s science fiction novel, “A Scanner Darkly,” accosting authority, whether it was U.S. Rep. Lloyd Doggett, D-Austin, Gov. George W. Bush or GOP strategist and Bush loyalist Karl Rove.

In 2000, documentary filmmaker Kevin Booth did a video compilation — “The Best of Alex Jones” — of some of his favorite moments of Jones confronting the world for its comic possibilities with an eye to interesting Hollywood in a reality series. (It ultimately morphed into the Jesse Ventura series “Conspiracy,” on which Jones appeared.)

There is the old footage of Jones in the 1990s driving into an Austin seat-belt checkpoint — what he characterizes as a Bill Clinton initiative.

“Hello Waffen SS,” Jones greets the cops. He mentions concentration camps being set up in California.

“I’ve been researching this for eight years,” Jones shouts out. “I’ve been laughed at. Now I’m on the front page of the Statesman.”

In 2004, Booth was with Jones in New York when Bush was renominated for president, in the anti-Bush camp.

“This latest twist, Alex for the first time backing a mainstream candidate, that’s what’s been so disorienting to me,” said Booth, who lives in the Hollywood Hills. “I’m trying to wrap my mind around it.”

“Alex has a magical ability to find his way into the center of these cyclones,” Booth said. “How much better promotion can you get than having the people running for president talking about you? How much better can it get than that?”

“I’ve actually lost friends over my friendship with Alex Jones,” Booth said. “He’s actually a very sensitive, intelligent, loyal kind of guy. Then that always leads people to ask me, ‘Does he really believe everything he says?’”

Booth’s answer: “He’s like Orson Welles doing the world is coming to an end broadcast. When you have to tell people the world is ending six times a week, five hours a day for 340 days, 20 years in a row, you know, you’re going to talk about Hillary smelling like sulfur.”

‘The bat signal’

To Jon Ronson, author of “The Elephant in the Room,” a new e-book on Jones’ involvement with Trump in the election, Jones is “a beat poet of paranoia.”

When Ronson, a Welsh journalist who has immersed himself in fringe politics, first encountered Jones 18 years ago, Jones was broadcasting from a child’s bedroom with choo-choo train wallpaper and a staff of three.

“Now,” writes Ronson, “more than 50 people worked for him in a huge industrial space housing three large television studios, four smaller ones, a vast warehouse for his products, and offices for social media people and nightly news reporters and graphic designers and IT people. I noticed quite a lot of diversity among Alex’s staff. This was not a white male enclave.”

When Ronson asked Jones how he communicates with Trump, Jones said, “I put out a video. A message to Trump, and then two days later he lays out the case. It’s like sending up the bat signal.”

On July 30, Jones posted an “extremely important message to Donald Trump,” in which he said that Clinton had stolen the Democratic nomination from Bernie Sanders and, “I want you to seriously think about making the issue of Hillary’s election fraud in the primaries one of the central issues to defeating her in November.”

Two days later, at a rally in Ohio, Trump declared that Clinton had “rigged” the primaries and, “I’m afraid the election’s going be rigged.”

As much as Ronson personally likes Jones, he is aghast at his influence on Trump.

“Donald Trump might be on the verge of becoming the leader of the free world, and it was incredible to discover that he takes Alex seriously — that Alex might be influencing him,” Ronson writes. “Alex is basically the most irresponsible man I have ever met. He uses his power to inflame paranoia. He boldly makes stuff up to suit his weird agenda. Alex eschews facts and reason, and he definitely should not have political sway.”

But, speaking at a rally in Columbus, Ohio, on Oct. 13, Obama placed Trump’s embrace of Jones in the context of a Republican political culture in Texas that last year indulged Jones’ fear-mongering that the Jade Helm 15 military training exercise, which took place in Bastrop County and other rural areas, was intended to be a clandestine federal takeover of Texas.

“This is in the swamp of crazy that has been fed over and over and over and over again,” Obama said

Gov. Greg Abbott ordered the Texas State Guard to monitor the exercise. The monitoring consisted of four to five guardsmen keeping tabs on the Army and giving Abbott daily reports that recapped military activities in the previous 24 hours and the schedule for the coming 72 hours, according to Abbott’s office.

An Abbott spokesman said after the two-month exercise has concluded that Jade Helm “operated on schedule and proceeded as planned.”

The second debate

Jones’ influence on Trump reached its apex with a speech the GOP nominee delivered Oct. 13 in West Palm Beach, Fla.

“Hillary Clinton meets in secret with international banks to plot the destruction of U.S. sovereignty in order to enrich these global financial powers, her special interest friends and her donors,” Trump said in language that seemed ripped straight from Jones.

But much of the coverage and reaction also suggested it was straight out of classic “Protocols of the Elder of Zion” anti-Semitism.

Jones vehemently denied the suggestion, saying both his grandfathers nearly lost their lives in World War II.

“I almost don’t exist because of World War II and the Nazis,” Jones said.

On the evening before the second presidential debate, it was a wrathful Jones sending the bat signal up for Trump: “I’m Alex Jones from InfoWars.com and I’ve got a message for Donald Trump — attack Hillary or drop out.”

Jones said the message was delivered from “a literal 400-foot cliff” above the Colorado River at Austin’s Pennybacker Bridge for a reason, the video spliced with images of lemmings racing off a cliff.

Whether or not Trump heard Jones’ message, he delivered the performance at the second debate that Jones demanded.

After the final debate Wednesday night, Jones, completing 13 hours of live InfoWars coverage, talked with Stone about how Clinton was on the run and about how his own audience numbers were through the roof in recent months.

Jones repeated his mantra that Trump’s internal polls show him winning in a landslide and that all those public polls you read about that show Clinton ahead were disinformation to make a Democratic theft of the election look plausible.

But then he said something that sounded new.

“If they steal it, we win,” Jones said. “Don’t freak out if they steal it folks. Maybe it’s not supposed to happen.”

“Go ahead and steal it, because it’s going to blow up like Mount St. Helens,” he said.

For Alex Jones, that sounds like something to look forward to.


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Re: The Antics of Alex Jones

Postby PufPuf93 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:56 pm

I am not sure if the idea that Alex Jones is some sort of disinformation intelligence asset has been discussed in this thread but, if true, would explain the impunity and high profile enjoyed by Alex Jones over the years.

A search on this idea shows various fringe theories that in fact Jones is a disinformation asset (but from sources and claims that only lead to better cover).

http://www.spirituallysmart.com/Jones-CIA.htm

Alex Jones is CIA DISINFORMATION agent/asset of the continued Project Mockingbird and alternative Media Gatekeeper for the Vatican.

"Disinformation": is a preemptive dissemination of deliberately misleading information announced publicly or leaked by a government, intelligence agency, corporation or other entity to prevent a target audience from realizing accurate conclusions.
What convinced me Jones is some kind of agent? 1. The info listed on this page. 2. The "Main Links" section to the left. 3. My knowledge of Jesuit/Vatican history and political intrigue which I have studied for almost 20 years now.
Has Alex Jones been contacted about this info? Yes he has. He calls the info "Baloney" and says "the Catholic 'Run it all' crew are the worst".

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/20 ... 58030.html

I am unable to copy from this second link.
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Re: The Antics of Alex Jones

Postby Iamwhomiam » Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:57 pm

I looked for Clinton's video on Jones, but couldn't find it. It might be on her campaign page, but I did watch the media matters video elfi posted above. I did find one guy who's got a beef with him, but he's just as nutty and dangerous, imo. http://tinyurl.com/h8lesq9

Which is a bit coincidental, as was the mention of the protocol's in the Jones article elfi posted, considering the NYT published an article in today's paper

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/28/insider/1920-21-exposing-the-protocols-as-a-fraud.html
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If you're familiar with how things work in Bizarro world, you'll understand his true meaning:


Edited to add:

In my local paper today:

Feds: Militia member spoke of attacking Albany buildings
Defendant spoke of FBI task force building attack, papers say

By Robert Gavin Updated 7:47 am, Thursday, October 27, 2016

Albany

A self-described "resistance fighter" who was reputedly forming a militia in Greene County boasted of his ability to kill dozens of people and attack federal buildings in Albany to combat "tyranny" in the event of Armageddon, court papers revealed Wednesday.

Robert Twiss, 58, of Earlton, whose convictions include one burglary in 1981, is being held in the Rensselaer County Jail charged with unlawful possession of a rifle by a felon, which carries a maximum of 10 years in prison.

But a federal complaint filed in U.S. District Court painted a more chilling picture of the defendant, who was arrested Sunday following an FBI investigation that began in 2015. It alleged Twiss spoke of using a Molotov cocktail on an FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force building in Albany and crippling a Federal Emergency Management Agency office in Albany — even though none exists.

In one recorded conversation, Twiss allegedly bragged about his deadly ability to improvise with a propane tank by adding Tannerite, an exploding target.

"I can shoot that mother-(expletive) and make the world come to an end for a bunch of people," Twiss said, according to an affidavit to back the complaint written by an FBI agent assigned to handle domestic terrorism cases. "One bullet in that, I can kill about 40 people."

At another point, Twiss reputedly said: "I'm not a dangerous extremist, but I am extremely dangerous. There's a difference ... as you can see this is my mindset."

The FBI launched the probe after learning Twiss "was forming, or had formed, a militia based in Greene County that had plans to engage in acts of violence," the document said. The FBI used an informant to pose as someone interested in joining Twiss' militia and to record Twiss. The complaint suggested Twiss had been in a prior militia but was miffed at his former militia mates.

"They damn well better be scared of me 'cause I'm not just some (expletive) talker," he allegedly said on Aug. 22, 2015. "I mean what I say, I say what I mean, and I don't give a (expletive) who likes it."

That day, Twiss said he could "can get guns all day long" and was a "resistance fighter." If an Armageddon situation were to happen, he would go into the city of Albany and "take up arms" against the "tyranny," the complaint said.

"Twiss also told the (informant) that he knew where the Albany 'Joint Terrorism Task Force' was located, that it had a metal fence surrounding it, but that Twiss could 'reach it with a (expletive) Molotov launcher' if needed," the complaint said.

On Feb. 7, Twiss held a meeting in Hampton Manor Park in East Greenbush where, according to the complaint, he boasted about explosives.

"I am the weapon. I can make anything into a weapon and I mean anything," Twiss allegedly said. "My forte is liquid flammables. It doesn't matter whether it's compressed gas or if it's gasoline in a can from the gas station or the diesel kerosene with gasoline."

On March 5, at another militia-related meeting, Twiss allegedly said he would have to destroy the FEMA building in the event of Armageddon, saying: "I know where the FEMA center is, I know where their backup generator is and I know where their nearest substation is. OK? I know where all their telephones are. OK? And I know where the (expletive) nearest, uh, microwave unit is. Why do I know where all that stuff is? 'Cause if l'm gonna take it, if l'm gonna cripple them I need to cripple all that (expletive)."

In August, the informant recorded Twiss talking about shooting an M-1 rifle as Twiss showed the informant "some survivalist type projects on which Twiss was actively working. "On Sept. 9, the informant fired Twiss' rifle using the 50 rounds of ammunition provided by the informant, the complaint said.

Twiss, arrested Sunday, was arraigned Wednesday before Magistrate Judge Christian Hummel, who ordered him detained. Twiss was represented Wednesday by Timothy Austin from the federal public defender's office.

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http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Feds-Milita-member-spoke-of-attacking-Albany-10416261.php

Twiss is not a member of the Democratic Party. He is atypical in attitude to many living in my small community, unfortunately.
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Re: The Antics of Alex Jones

Postby Iamwhomiam » Thu Oct 27, 2016 5:01 pm

I believe he's being used to 'light up' certain individuals, forcing them into the daylight and onto the authorities radar, forevermore.
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Re: The Antics of Alex Jones

Postby JackRiddler » Sun Oct 30, 2016 12:50 am

Bad usage, Times of 1920. Forgery is the faking of documents that actually do exist in a real form. One forges passports or drivers' licenses, or counterfeits money. If there were real Elders of Zion, and they met and kept minutes, then a forgery would be a fake version of these actual protocols. The creation and false attribution of documents that do not otherwise exist (fictions presented as though true) is fabrication. Or fraud, more generally. In this case it's really a plagiarism of other works that were not even attributed to Jews, falsely presented as though it was authored by an entity that doesn't appear to have existed.
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Re: The Antics of Alex Jones

Postby Jerky » Sun Oct 30, 2016 3:20 am

His first interview with Trump was hilariously pathetic and did more to expose Jones' mushy, empty core than any dozen New Yorker profiles. Just watch... just listen.

The final and definitive word on Alex Jones is that he is an absolutely pathetic and transparent star-fucker, and he is a star-fucker of the first degree.

If President Obama were to call him up on the phone for a heart-to-heart 5 minute chat, Jones would ejaculate down his trouser leg, then promptly declare how "impressed" he was by Obama's leadership qualities etc. I would bet my life savings on it.

I mean, we're talking about a guy who thinks the world is in desperate need of public policy advice from the likes of Dave "Megadeth" Mustaine and the Smashing Pumpkins guy. He's a star-fucker. That's it, that's all.

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Re: The Antics of Alex Jones

Postby winsomecowboy2 » Sun Oct 30, 2016 4:13 am

So many wasted mind-cycles, Alex Jones is a twat. If you are with the resistance then you are with him and he's a buffoon. [Edit, Ho hum social cul de sacs anyone?]
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