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I'm not really sus of him because his comments don't revolve around a personality cult or a particular 'ism', his suggestions are self-empowering, common-sense observations that many, many people have made dealing with citizen-organization and bottom-up networking. He's mostly pointing-out the more obvious things about our corrupt, corporate-dominated system of government duopoly and perverted 'justice' which is deeply broken and needs a major reboot.
I don't necessarily buy-into the 'Once CIA, ALways CIA' meme -- there have been quite a few rebels who have renounced the injustice and special-agenda abuses of the US intel agencies.
elfismiles wrote:Whoa whoa WHOA!
JF, did you hand transcribe your quote below? Or did you cut and paste?jingofever wrote:He doesn't leave out anything:9/11 was created by Al Qaeda at the urging and with the financing of the Pakistani ISI (radical half). But they got frightened when it looked like it not only might work, but that Al Qaeda, which has previously promised to bring a nuclear event to the USA, had the brains to suggest putting one of the airplanes into a nuclear power plant. Pakistan briefed Cheney…nations also got wind of this and warned the CIA. We also had two walk-ins to the FBI, one in Orlando, one in Newark, that were dismissed by the FBI because the names were all virgins and not in the FBI data base—the arrogance of stupid bureaucracy.
Cheney saw an opportunity for what Bush called his trifecta, and gave it to him by giving the go-ahead to ISI and Al Qaeda, and ordering up a terrorism exercise that allowed him to send all relevant close-in air defense strip alert craft away from the target areas, and to disable the NORTHCOM normal response to flight path diversion. We still need to investigate degree to which US may have trained some of the terrorists; the degree to which the terrorists may or may not have actually been on the airplanes, and whether or not the two NYC planes also had embedded flight controls taken over and controlled from WTC 7. The pancaking of three buildings, one of which was not hit, I put down to Larry Silverstein, not Dick Cheney, warned by Mossad and with Goldman Sachs and the rest of the NYC Jewish mafia. An opportunity to solve his asbestos problem and make 7 billion surely shared with the insurance executive who had to be in on the scam to ignore all the thermite and the evidence. Giuliani destroyed the crime scene with trucks and GPS prearranged. The Pentagon was hit by a missile and conveniently went into both a construction area while also (it is claimed) destroying all the computers containing all the evidence needed to track down the missing 2.3 trillion Rumsfeld was being grilled about on the Hill on 10 Sept.
Robert Steele has been discussed here before. He's the open source intelligence guy and, of course, a former CIA officer.
Did YOU change that wording or was it like that originally?
Here is the way the page is now...What exactly is your take on 9/11?
9/11 was created by Al Qaeda at the urging and with the financing of the Pakistani ISI (radical half). But they got frightened when it looked like it not only might work, but that Al Qaeda, which has previously promised to bring a nuclear event to the USA, had the brains to suggest putting one of the airplanes into a nuclear power plant. Pakistan briefed Cheney…nations also got wind of this and warned the CIA. We also had two walk-ins to the FBI, one in Orlando, one in Newark, that were dismissed by the FBI because the names were all virgins and not in the FBI data base—the arrogance of stupid bureaucracy.
Cheney saw an opportunity for what Bush called his trifecta, and gave it to him by giving the go-ahead to ISI and Al Qaeda, and ordering up a terrorism exercise that allowed him to send all relevant close-in air defense strip alert craft away from the target areas, and to disable the NORTHCOM normal response to flight path diversion. We still need to investigate degree to which US may have trained some of the terrorists; the degree to which the terrorists may or may not have actually been on the airplanes, and whether or not the two NYC planes also had embedded flight controls taken over and controlled from WTC 7. The pancaking of three buildings, one of which was not hit, I put down to Larry Silverstein, not Dick Cheney, warned by Mossad and with Goldman Sachs and the rest of the NYC Wall Street mafia. An opportunity to solve his asbestos problem and make 7 billion surely shared with the insurance executive who had to be in on the scam to ignore all the thermite and the evidence. Giuliani destroyed the crime scene with trucks and GPS prearranged. The Pentagon was hit by a missile and conveniently went into both a construction area while also (it is claimed) destroying all the computers containing all the evidence needed to track down the missing 2.3 trillion Rumsfeld was being grilled about on the Hill on 10 Sept.
Steele Speaks at WDT!
2 PM Sunday, Sept. 13
Robert Steele (former CIA agent, expert on Open Source Intelligence) As a part of our day-long focus on "Economics, Intelligence, and Transparency"
Full schedule here
http://www.wedemandtransparency.com/schedule.html
http://www.wedemandtransparency.com/steele.html
And thank you LB23 for noting the Theremy locale on Steele's lecture tour.
Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Robert CIA Steele is their mouthpiece promoting 'open source intelligence.'
So he encourages us to spill out guts so that CIA and its privatized proxies can datamine.
This website has served as Robert Steel's wet dream. A honeypot of dissent providing the CIA's counterpropaganda department their marching orders, bird-doggers that point at what National inSecurity State needles need more haystack decoy culture propped up around them.
Since atleast 2005.
The Institutionalization of Open Source Intelligence
August 24th, 2011 by Steven Aftergood
The battle for public access to open source intelligence may have been lost before most people even knew it began, judging from the new book, “No More Secrets: Open Source Information and the Reshaping of U.S. Intelligence” by Hamilton Bean (Praeger, 2011).
“No More Secrets” is an academic work, not an expose. But it is an exceptionally stimulating one that brings the theoretical principles of organization management and communications theory to bear on intelligence policy in original and insightful ways.
As Bean shows in depth, the meaning of “open source” has been fiercely contested, beginning with the very definition of the term (which generally refers to policy-relevant information that can be acquired legally). Other disputed questions include, Whom does open source serve? Is it only for policy makers, or also the public? Who should perform the open source mission? Should it be housed within the intelligence community or outside of it? Which aspect of “open source intelligence” dominates? Is it the logic of openness or the logic of secrecy?
For the most part, these questions have now been answered, at least provisionally. Open source intelligence is for policymakers, not the public. It is part of the intelligence community, not separate from it. The logic of secrecy, not openness, is primary. “Intelligence officials have successfully marginalized” those who would argue differently, Bean says.
Among several fateful turning points in the current institutionalization of open source intelligence, Bean highlights a conflict between Robert Steele, a former CIA officer and Marine Corps open source advocate, and Eliot Jardines, who served as the senior ODNI official on open source.
While Steele favored an open, expansive and inclusive vision of open source intelligence, “Jardines sought to institutionalize the collection and analysis of open source within the U.S. intelligence community in ways that did not overtly challenge the dominant institutional logic of secrecy.” In 2005 or thereabouts, Jardines won that battle, and “those who share Steele’s vision of an independent open source agency find their ability to affect change similarly constrained,” the author says. (Steele’s own review of the book is here.)
Of course, there is no reason why the status quo must be perpetuated indefinitely. In fact, Prof. Bean notes, “many stakeholders… are still, to this day, actively struggling to institutionalize their preferred meanings of open source….”
Secrecy News is cited a couple of times in the book and the Federation of American Scientists makes an appearance in this peculiar sentence: “A principal reason that WikiLeaks, Public Intelligence, Cryptome, and FAS are controversial is because they threaten to rupture distinctions between open and secret information and destabilize conventional notions of authority, expertise and control.”
ROBERT DAVID STEELE: This may strike your listeners as way out but we actually believe that there is a colony on Mars that is populated by children who were kidnapped and sent into space on a 20 year ride. So that once they get to Mars they have no alternative but to be slaves on the Mars colony. There’s all kinds of --
ALEX JONES (HOST): Look, I know that 90 percent of the NASA missions are secret and I’ve been told by high level NASA engineers that you have no idea, there is so much stuff going on. But then it goes off into all that, that’s the kind of thing media jumps on. But I know this: we see a bunch of mechanical wreckage on Mars and people say, “Oh look, it looks like mechanics.” They go, “Oh, you’re a conspiracy theorist.” Clearly they don’t want us looking into what is happening. Every time probes go over they turn them off.
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JONES: Well I don’t know about Mars bases, but I know they’ve created massive, thousands of different types of chimeras that are alien lifeforms on this earth now.
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