What about Watergate?

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Re: What about Watergate?

Postby MinM » Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:26 pm

Elvis wrote:I recommend "Silent Coup: The Removal of a President" by Len Colodny & Robert Gettlin.

http://www.amazon.com/Silent-Coup-Presi ... 0312927630

The authors have a website, with followup articles etc., here:
http://www.silentcoup.com/

One of things that was going on, it seems, was that Nixon and Kissinger's secret "back channel" negotiations---bypassing the State Dept. and Pentagon etc.---caused the Joint Chiefs to wonder, "What the hell is this guy up to?" Nixon was making them extremely nervous. I won't go into the detailed theses of the book here, but I think the authors did some great work. E.g. their analysis of Bob Woodward's Watergate reporting---and his past as a Naval intelligence officer and his relationship to Haig---is interesting to say the least.

(I think it was Haig's "job" as Nixon's Chief of Staff to put Nixon into a position where he had no choice but to resign.)

I followed Watergate closely when it was happening, and continued studying it off & on over the years; "Silent Coup" really opened up a lot of intriguing stuff.

I'd be interested on anyone's take of this work, e.g. has it been rebutted to any effective degree?

(btw for some great new(ish) material on Nixon, I recommend "President Nixon: Alone in the White House" by Richard Reeves. It focuses on Nixon as a loner, mostly based on Nixon's copious daily "memos to self" and of course the 1000s of hours of White House tapes.)

(PS I've always had a special fascination with Nixon, ever since my mother told me about him in the early '60s. So I was delighted to use the Nixon/Elvis photo as my avatar. I have no similar fascination with Elvis Presley; "Elvis" was just an easy-to-remember and light-hearted name to use here.)

That book, along with Jim Hougan's Secret Agenda, cover the whole Watergate thing pretty well. In re-reading the paperback version Colodny and Gettlin describe some of the blowback they received from the mainstream media. Led by the usual supects; Ben Bradlee, Bob Woodward, Carl Bernstein and the boys...

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Re: Dorothy Hunt

Postby MinM » Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:31 pm

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Colson declared that CIA was involved in the December 8 1972 'Watergate plane crash' that killed CIA-Dorothy Hunt in a 1974 Time Magazine interview.

He was demonized in his CIA-NPR/MI6-BBC radio epitaph today.

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In their book, All The President’s Men, Bernstein and Woodward make several references to Dorothy Hunt being involved in negotiating the silence of the burglars. However, they mention her death without comment. This includes the fact that she was carrying a large sum of money that was to be paid to the “Cubans”. Nor do Bernstein and Woodward mention that a fellow victim was Michelle Clark, who was working on a story with Hunt about Watergate at the time. Very strange behaviour from these so-called “investigative journalists”.

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Re: What about Watergate?

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:13 am

I've found what I think is evidence that there was concern that Nixon would get shot just like the Kennedys so he was thrown under the bus politically instead to prevent this too obvious repetition of political assassination during the 1960s.

The early 1970s was a desperate time for spooks and many desperate acts were perpetrated.
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Lanny Davis: My Chuck Colson Lesson

Postby MinM » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:20 pm

In October, 1972, Dorothy Hunt attempted to speak to Charles Colson. He refused to talk to her but later admitted to the New York Times that she was "upset at the interruption of payments from Nixon's associates to Watergate defendants."

On 15th November, Colson met with Richard Nixon, H. R. Haldeman and John Ehrlichman at Camp David to discuss Howard Hunt's blackmail threat. John N. Mitchell was also getting worried by Dorothy Hunt's threats and he asked John Dean to use a secret White House fund to "get the Hunt situation settled down". Eventually it was arranged for Frederick LaRue to give Hunt about $250,000 to buy his silence.

However, on 8th December, 1972, Dorothy Hunt had a meeting with Michelle Clark, a journalist working for CBS was working on a story on the Watergate case: "Ms Clark had lots of insight into the bugging and cover-up through her boyfriend, a CIA operative." Also with Hunt and Clark was Chicago Congressman George Collins.

Dorothy Hunt, Michelle Clark and George Collins took the Flight 533 from Washington to Chicago. The aircraft hit the branches of trees close to Midway Airport: "It then hit the roofs of a number of neighborhood bungalows before plowing into the home of Mrs. Veronica Kuculich at 3722 70th Place, demolishing the home and killing her and a daughter, Theresa. The plane burst into flames killing a total of 45 persons, 43 of them on the plane, including the pilot and first and second officers. Eighteen passengers survived." Hunt, Clark and Collins were all killed in the accident.

The following month E. Howard Hunt pleaded guilty to burglary and wiretapping and eventually served 33 months in prison. Hunt kept his silence although another member of the Watergate team, James W. McCord, wrote a letter to Judge John J. Sirica claiming that the defendants had pleaded guilty under pressure (from John Dean and John N. Mitchell) and that perjury had been committed.

In 1974, Charles Colson, Howard Hunt's boss at the White House, told Time Magazine: "I think they killed Dorothy Hunt."

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