The Fuzzy Logic Of Useful Idiots

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The Fuzzy Logic Of Useful Idiots

Postby vanlose kid » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:27 am

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By Giordano Bruno

Neithercorp Press – 11/03/2010

It hurts to be wrong. Not just emotionally, but physically, especially when it’s public, like swimming headfirst into a school of very ill-tempered jellyfish…..or maybe piranha. The horror of it is almost cinematic. The more artificially pumped your ego, or the more brainwashed with academic pretension, the more terrifying that moment of realization is, that moment when all your assumptions are dashed aside like a three-year-old’s alphabet blocks. To a certain point, it is understandable why so many people live in such violent denial, however, this does not detract from the perils of that denial…

Americans are masters of avoiding responsibility for bad assumptions. I have seen middle-aged women cry, actual tears, because they have been proven incorrect on something as simple as the price of dishwashing detergent at the grocery store. I have seen full-grown men throw wild-eyed tantrums and even threaten people with death because they couldn’t handle being wrong about the correct score of a football game. I once saw a man froth at the mouth and shout vicious obscenities for 20 minutes straight because he refused to believe there where more than three ‘Jaws’ movies (I wish ‘Jaws: The Revenge’ didn’t exist either, but I’m not going to have a spasm over it). I have seen little old ladies physically attack people because they were embarrassed to be wrong, not realizing that their response was far more humiliating and self deprecating than just being “mistaken”. I have, indeed, seen the glory of overgrown babies in action.

America is not the only culture prone to this, Americans just happen to be the worst losers. We lash out when we are wrong, while most Europeans tend to intellectualize ideas that challenge their false perceptions, as if they are “above” even considering them. They are masters of rationalizing the facts away, while we are masters of brutalizing those people who are messengers of the facts.

Some of these unfortunate members of our society are merely lemmings; sheep following each other mindlessly without questioning the purpose or the destination. They are spectators in world events, and nothing more. While others are far more dangerous because they take an active role in the shaping of events, not knowing that their idiocy is contributing to the suppression of the truth and even the downfall of our nation. They help elitists to dismantle dissent and in the process damage their own future. It sounds insane, and in a way, they ARE psychologically ill, but in a manner that has been deemed tolerable (or even practical) by society. We call these people “Useful Idiots”.

How does one know when he has encountered such a person? How does he cope? Let’s examine some of the telltale signs of the useful idiot…

Just Smart Enough To Be Stupid…

Learning is a full time job, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, until the very moment your ticker tocks and you find yourself sporting a cloud and a harp. Some people, though, seem to think that retirement on learning starts at around age twenty. Useful idiots are commonly men and women who are intelligent enough to retain information but not driven enough to research its validity, or to follow a thought through to its logical conclusion. They very often work in professional fields such as law, business, medicine, politics, engineering, media, entertainment, etc. (though there are many others in these fields who are not caught up in their own delusional worlds). These are people in a position to influence others just by the virtue of their work, regardless of how clueless they actually are.

Lacking knowledge is not such a terrible crime as long as you are willing to admit that you do. There is always someone out there who is going to know more than you about some things, if not many things. That’s life. Useful idiots, on the other hand, are rarely willing to admit that they are lacking in any department. They usually have just enough knowledge to make themselves “convincing” to those who don’t recognize them for what they are. In this way they are a sort of mini-Chernobyl, waiting to spew radioactive waste (disinformation) at any given moment, mutating public opinion.

Their ability to think is limited to memorization. The problem with this way of viewing the world is that it excludes critical thought, intuition, empathy, and wisdom. It traps us in a box composed of all the things we have been TAUGHT, but keeps us from the things we could discover on our own. Useful idiots are walking talking toasters; all they take is bread, and all they make is toast (and the occasional pop tart). Frankly, I’m bored with toast.

One need only take into account the vast number of so called financial analysts in the mainstream media who denied there was any threat of economic collapse back in 2006/2007. How many of them stopped to consider the consequences of ignoring the facts because of their egomania and inability to think beyond their conditioning? How many lives and nest-eggs have been destroyed, or are waiting to be destroyed, because of them? How many of these useful idiots ever apologized for their blundering? I can’t think of any…

Reacting To The Truth, Instead Of Absorbing It…

Useful idiots talk, they don’t listen. They ask lots of questions, but never wait to hear your answers. For them, questions are not a search for information, but rather a method of antagonism. It is a way to keep everyone else on guard while making themselves feel superior. In this game, the useful idiot never has to expose his ignorance because he never has to enter into a meaningful dialogue with anyone who has an opposing view. All he has to do is attack, attack, attack.

I have seen all kinds of reactionary tactics from useful idiots, but I find that the most common one for the American brand is the application of overt bravado. They turn everything into a joke whether it is funny or not. Laughing at that which we don’t understand sometimes makes things less frightening, but it also makes us more passive. Dedicated clowns, for all their theatrics and daring, are generally impotent historical figures. How many clowns or comedians have ever really dared to break the establishment mold and aim a magnifying glass at the true absurdity of our system or our culture? How many have inspired legitimate and original thought? I can think of only a handful, and almost all of them remained tied back by the entertainment industry for their beliefs.

The clowns that are the most “successful” are those that follow the establishment guidelines and play on them as if they might dare break the barrier of lies, but they never do. In Medieval times, even the most blood thirsty king would allow the court jester to make jokes at his expense. Why? Because the jester was an inconsequential figure, a powerless and non-threatening being. A jester can verbally thrash a tyrant, but nothing ever really changes, because deep down, though they make us laugh, nobody really cares what clowns have to say. Now imagine a whole subsection of our country emulating this dynamic. Imagine all these people deluding themselves into thinking that being a slave isn’t all that bad, as long as you’re the funny slave.

When confronted with a truth that threatens their established world view, useful idiots will do anything to distract or derail the exchange. Making bad jokes, resorting to childish ridicule, ignoring cold hard logic, making threats, denying you are qualified to present the facts, even though the facts speak for themselves no matter who is relaying them, etc. Rarely will they confront the truth you present on its own terms. Instead, they will try to make YOU the issue of discussion, and not your information.

Skewed World View…

Is it really that hard to double check a piece of data to confirm whether or not it is true? Apparently, it must be, because so many Americans have decided to believe whatever they are told without a second thought as long as the guy telling them is in a suit or a white lab coat. If a guy in a lab coat told you that cyanide makes you more desirable to the opposite sex, would you slam down a glass before hitting the singles bar, or would you verify the info and actually research the damned subject before hand?

You might say “well cyanide is poison, everybody knows that!” Yes, people know that because they research it. But how many other poisons do Americans ingest daily because some official gave the thumbs up? Mercury (thimerosal), aspartame, high fructose corn syrup, fluoride, rBGH, Bisphenol-A, and numerous others. One stop at the computer would produce thousands of pages of research which shows the volatile nature of these chemicals and the consequences of exposure. Why do we contaminate our guts with this garbage on pure faith? Welcome to the realm of the useful idiot…

The useful idiot is not just the guy chugging down GMO milk filled with udder puss, anyone can do that and not be useful. No, the useful idiot is the FDA official or the corporately paid scientist who SELLS us on the purity of the milk. He’s the local dentist who laughs at you when you question the safety of all that fluoride accumulation in your bloodstream. She’s the nurse who threatens to call CPS because you don’t want your newborn baby injected with half a dozen mercury laced vaccines two months after they exit the womb. The useful idiot is the guy who received his standardized academic neuron rinse but never learned that the first rule of academia used to be ‘question everything’.

World view is really a battle between inherent conscience, common sense, and the conditioning of our era. Even a single root misconception, like the belief in the legitimacy of the false left/right political paradigm, could easily skew the whole of a person’s vision to a sea of truths. The useful idiot is not only conditioned himself, but he also becomes an agent of that conditioning in others. When confronted with a truth outside of his established world view, he almost short circuits. He has lived most of his life with the ideas and propaganda of others slogging around in his skull. To be faced with the possibility that all of that time, energy, and devotion, was worthless, is almost too much to bear.

Making A Difference, One Lost Freedom At A Time…

Sometimes the best qualities of good people are ironically the worst qualities in the useful idiot. Useful idiots love to participate…in anything…as long as it’s sanctioned by a recognizable organization. Bless their hearts, they just want to get out there and make a difference! Go team!

This is a serious issue with those on both sides of our fake political spectrum, left and right. How many people clamored to be a neo-con after 9/11, only to find that in their quest for public safety, they wrongly supported the weakening of Constitutional freedoms, the destabilization of our economy, not to mention the invasion of Iraq, a country that had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11 (even if you believe the official story) or any other terrorist attack in this country? How many liberals ran screaming like schoolgirls at a Justin Bieber concert towards the global warming and carbon tax scam, only to find out that the climate labs responsible for all the research they had been eating up without question was actually using contrived and in some cases completely fabricated data? I won’t even get into the Obama-fever thing, mainly because my stomach isn’t strong enough at the moment.

The problem with useful idiots is that they want to participate TOO much. So much that they’ll jump on any bandwagon that is well funded and flamboyant enough to peak their interest. They are joiners with highly superficial standards, like brownshirts, or lice. This is where they do their worst damage…

Participation, for the useful idiot, is not about making a difference; it is about feeling like they are making a difference. In some cases, it’s about “hope”, but not real or effective action. In other cases, it’s about vengeance and malice, but not justice or integrity. In either scenario, the key missing factor is the truth, which is neglected or traded for a quick boost in self esteem. This makes the useful idiot the prime target of elitist disinformation. Nearly all criminal actions by governments receive their primary support from this portion of the citizenry exactly because they are so ridiculously eager. They are the zombie ditch diggers of the globalist infrastructure, chopping away at our liberties in search of brains.

Confronting The Useful Idiot…

Why bother trying to communicate with these dimwits at all? Are they not the very definition of a lost cause? Perhaps. I can say with a certain authority, though, that some of them can be introduced to awareness, especially since I used to be one of them…

I was the Democrat putting up Kerry stickers and handing out buttons back in 2004. I was the guy who shut down any conservative viewpoint no matter how accurate or valid because Bush was the devil incarnate (and also because I was uninformed enough to believe that neo-cons were actually conservative). I was the guy at those protest rallies where no one including myself really understood the topics we were speaking out on. I knew corporations were the enemy, but I didn’t understand why. I knew the wars were dishonest, but I thought they were all about oil. I knew the economy was in trouble, but I barely knew what the Federal Reserve was, let alone fractional reserve banking or fiat currency. It took many years to fully remove my head from my ass, but I did. I see no reason why others could not do the same, given the right prompting.

The useful idiot has to be faced with queries he can’t weasel out of or deflect. That means continually asking him questions and demanding he support his responses with concrete proof. He has to be shown beyond a doubt that at least one of his precious ideals is unfounded and unsupported by the facts. Just one. After that, he can no longer assume that any of his other views are rock solid either. He will be forced to finally check his sources, which usually leads to a terrifying epiphany; he knows nothing! It’s like falling down a bottomless South American sinkhole with nothing to grab onto. I know, because I felt it once.

Eventually, he accepts the loss of his old identity, the foolish man that was so confident and certain, and moves on towards a frightening world where he must teach himself, instead of waiting around for others to teach him. The empowerment and the awe of this process is nearly indescribable, it has to be experienced to be understood. It’s like being able to see and to speak clearly for the first time. You never knew what you were missing because you had nothing to compare it to; only that unsettling knot at the pit of your stomach, telling you that something was very wrong. Now, to go back would be unthinkable, even hellish.

Nobody sees themselves as a useful idiot serving the interests of tyrants in the oppression of their fellow man. But, the fact remains that many Americans are in just such a position. You can hate them, you can even wish them ill, but don’t give up on them all. Contesting ignorance is not just the civic duty of the informed, it is also an act of compassion towards those who are not.

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Re: The Fuzzy Logic Of Useful Idiots

Postby Bruce Dazzling » Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:29 am

This is terrific, but the first sentence of the last paragraph sums up the entire piece's undoing:

Nobody sees themselves as a useful idiot serving the interests of tyrants in the oppression of their fellow man.


The people who desperately need to read this and understand it can't or won't.

I just posted it to Facebook, though, and I'm preparing for all of my hip, "liberal" friends to tell me to "not be so serious all of the time," and to "stop bleating about stuff that's out of our control (the wars)," which is what happened yesterday when I posted this:

http://www.alternet.org/news/148690/jon ... age=entire

After all, the only people who have been hoodwinked into voting against their own interests are those crazy Republicans and Tea Partiers, NOT Democrats! They're too smart for that...

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Re: The Fuzzy Logic Of Useful Idiots

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:05 pm

This article leaves out the question of money and alternative means of survival.

I had a very educational conversation yesterday with a Chase bank customer service employee about this. We both acknowledged we were "The Problem" -- which I guess is a Useful Idiot wake-up moment. I was going through an absurd amount of administrative BS to cash a paycheck from the PAC I worked at. A passport is not enough ID in this day and age, and I'm currently stuck in the ID loop, which is a long story not worth explaining. Poor people already know what I'm talking about, if you don't, be grateful.

Anyways. He was, to my complete surprise, cracking jokes about vampire squids and we got to talking about Taibbi and how we're both working in industries that make the world worse. (I've spent the last 30 days doing bipartisan copywriting and tons of shifts in a PAC phone bank -- I am definitely Part of the Problem in 2010.) Our realization was nothing new for either of us, though. It was also totally castrated, because, what the fuck else are we going to do? Move in with our parents and crowd-source the funding for a permaculture garden that we can't get permitted because we live with our parents?

Give Moloch some respect -- he won this before any of us here were born. Any attempt to fight our way out, any attempt to improve our lot here in the global gulag involves working for it. I haven't seen too many critiques that are willing to wrestle with this.

I used to think I was doing the right thing and being a good global citizen but moving to the midwest taught me that I was actually a ridiculously priveleged East Coast kid who was living off the largesse of my parent's hard work for The System. My only ticket out of poverty hell is exactly the same.

I'm open to arguments to the contrary and I'll consider them in a civil fashion.
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Re: The Fuzzy Logic Of Useful Idiots

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:11 pm

Probably a dangled 'cognitive infiltration' article meant to go viral on the leftie boards.
NYCity tv ran ads about WTC7 on 11/2/10.

Did ya notice the global warming-denial juxtaposed with vaguely implied 9/11 truth?
Shades of Fintan Dunne's disinfo shtick.

...not to mention the invasion of Iraq, a country that had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11 (even if you believe the official story) or any other terrorist attack in this country? How many liberals ran screaming like schoolgirls at a Justin Bieber concert towards the global warming and carbon tax scam, only to find out that the climate labs responsible for all the research they had been eating up without question was actually using contrived and in some cases completely fabricated data?
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Re: The Fuzzy Logic Of Useful Idiots

Postby Simulist » Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:23 pm

The Fuzzy Logic Of Useful Idiots

Several years ago, I knew a man who was convinced of all sorts of conspiracies: that our nation had fallen under the thrall of an evil, controlling elite — even that mind control had been refined to such a level of art as to make it practically impossible to know for sure if ones own thoughts were genuinely ones own, or not.

None of this did I take issue with.

Until he told me that it was — in spite of all this — still of critical importance that I vote for the Democrats.
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Re: The Fuzzy Logic Of Useful Idiots

Postby Bruce Dazzling » Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:26 pm

Wombaticus Rex wrote:This article leaves out the question of money and alternative means of survival.

I had a very educational conversation yesterday with a Chase bank customer service employee about this. We both acknowledged we were "The Problem" -- which I guess is a Useful Idiot wake-up moment. I was going through an absurd amount of administrative BS to cash a paycheck from the PAC I worked at. A passport is not enough ID in this day and age, and I'm currently stuck in the ID loop, which is a long story not worth explaining. Poor people already know what I'm talking about, if you don't, be grateful.

Anyways. He was, to my complete surprise, cracking jokes about vampire squids and we got to talking about Taibbi and how we're both working in industries that make the world worse. (I've spent the last 30 days doing bipartisan copywriting and tons of shifts in a PAC phone bank -- I am definitely Part of the Problem in 2010.) Our realization was nothing new for either of us, though. It was also totally castrated, because, what the fuck else are we going to do? Move in with our parents and crowd-source the funding for a permaculture garden that we can't get permitted because we live with our parents?

Give Moloch some respect -- he won this before any of us here were born. Any attempt to fight our way out, any attempt to improve our lot here in the global gulag involves working for it. I haven't seen too many critiques that are willing to wrestle with this.

I used to think I was doing the right thing and being a good global citizen but moving to the midwest taught me that I was actually a ridiculously priveleged East Coast kid who was living off the largesse of my parent's hard work for The System. My only ticket out of poverty hell is exactly the same.

I'm open to arguments to the contrary and I'll consider them in a civil fashion.


You're right that the article leaves out the question of money and alternative means of survival, but I think that the most important first step to ending the global gulag is getting as many people as possible to acknowledge it. You can't fight what the majority won't acknowledge.

As for this...

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Probably a dangled 'cognitive infiltration' article meant to go viral on the leftie boards.
NYCity tv ran ads about WTC7 on 11/2/10.

Did ya notice the global warming-denial juxtaposed with vaguely implied 9/11 truth?
Shades of Fintan Dunne's disinfo shtick.

...not to mention the invasion of Iraq, a country that had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11 (even if you believe the official story) or any other terrorist attack in this country? How many liberals ran screaming like schoolgirls at a Justin Bieber concert towards the global warming and carbon tax scam, only to find out that the climate labs responsible for all the research they had been eating up without question was actually using contrived and in some cases completely fabricated data?


...He referred to "the global warming AND CARBON TAX scam," not the "global warming scam."

The carbon tax was a scam, designed to serve as yet another financial derivative instrument for banks and corporations to use to make money, while doing nothing to protect the environment, which, by the way, I believe DOES need protecting.

And the climate labs WERE using some contrived and fabricated data. Admitting that doesn't automatically invalidate the concept that the planet's climate is changing, which it is, and has done lots of times in its history, including well before man was driving SUVs, or even existing at all, actually.

Which again, doesn't mean that I don't think that we should take action to protect the environment, because I DO, I just believe that there are far better ways to do it than to create yet another financial bubble machine for the banks and corporations to use.

So no, I don't think that this writer was conflating global warming-denial with vaguely implied 9/11 truth. I think he was making the point I made above, but didn't flesh it out enough.

But back to Wombaticus, again, I think that the most important action we can take to end the global gulag is to make as many people as possible aware of its existence.
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Re: The Fuzzy Logic Of Useful Idiots

Postby vanlose kid » Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:20 pm

Wombaticus Rex wrote:This article leaves out the question of money and alternative means of survival.

... Any attempt to fight our way out, any attempt to improve our lot here in the global gulag involves working for it. I haven't seen too many critiques that are willing to wrestle with this.

... I'm open to arguments to the contrary and I'll consider them in a civil fashion.

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Real World Solutions To Economic Tyranny


By Giordano Bruno

Neithercorp Press – 09/16/2010

It’s inevitable. Every person who endeavors to understand the nature of economy, central banking, fiat currency, Globalism, and elitism in our culture, every man who is truly honest with himself, comes to the same logical conclusion; the system we toil in, the system we tolerate out of habit day to day, is not only failing, it is designed to fail. Knowing this fact is difficult. The potential consequences of the situation tend to bleed into every moment of our once conventional routine. We realize that there is no going back to the old apathetic ways of viewing our world; once awake we cannot again sleep, and because we have the truth in hand, truth which affects every living human being, we are also by default made responsible for the future. We are no longer spectators caught in the swift tides of history, but participants in history’s making. We become the levy builders and breakers. We contribute to the flow of events, as well as their outcome.

This insight then begs a change in our way of life, and leads to a single arduous question:

Now that we know there is a problem, what are we going to do about it?

While knowing the truth is a tremendous step for any person, it brings little comfort without a sense of direction. People need a defined course of action, a methodology, a way of contributing to the solution. The problem is that too many people sit and wait for the solution to present itself, or wait for others to take the lead, instead of going out and finding their own answers. I have often received responses to my past articles that sound like this:

“Ok, so we know the economy is on the verge of collapse and that the government is corrupt. When are YOU going to tell us what we can do about it? What are YOU going to do about it? When are WE going to rally together and force the elites out of power?”

These are the wrong questions. What they should be asking THEMSELVES is;

“What am I going to do about it? When am I going to decide to take actions that further the betterment of our future? When am I going to stop waiting for others to tell me what to do?”


People want times, dates, clubs, protests, official representation, political parties, slogans, sign-up sheets and bake sales, and most of all, they want a plan, a prefabricated plan clearly delineating the future of the movement. In the Liberty Movement, however, there is no such thing as a strategy set in stone, nor should there be. The primary reason being, the Liberty Movement thrives on individual action, not collectivist action.

We would all love to have the remedy to our many ills packaged and bottled and sold to us like so much aspirin. This is not going to happen and I hope people stop holding their breath. In our situation, the only solutions that come easy are those that benefit the establishment, and not us. In fact, globalist peddlers today are lining up in droves to offer you their “leadership”, and an easy way out. Some people buy in, simply because they’ve never been forced to think for themselves, and they can’t fathom starting now, especially when it comes to something as seemingly complex and overarching as economics.

I have no easy solutions to offer here. I have no magic tricks or cure-alls. All I have is the ability to clearly present the hard choices available to us. All I have is a manner of thinking that could stop globalism in its tracks, but the way this philosophy is enacted is up to each and every American individual, and not up to me. Effective real world solutions start with a powerful root principle. This is mine:

Provide for yourself and for others those human necessities the oppressive system cannot or will not. Through this, you make the system obsolete. Eventually, the system will either have to come after you, or be forced to conform to you. In either case, you benefit.

Now, let’s examine how this principle works (especially in terms of economics), how it can be implemented, as well as those strategies that do more harm than good…

“Solutions” That Solve Nothing

Before we look at more effective measures in fighting against economic and political manipulation, it is probably a good idea to make ourselves aware of those solutions being presented to the public that will not work, or are meant to mislead. There are too many variations to cover in a single article, so I will attempt to list what I believe are the foremost prominent scams, shams, and boondoggles, below.

Incentives: Government incentives are a wash. Their only purpose is to prolong the inevitable by propping up certain sectors of the economy with more debt we cannot afford. Look at how the housing market tanked even further after the government ended its homebuyer tax credit plan. Look at the car tax credit and “cash for clunkers”. It was completely ineffective in revitalizing auto sales to sustainable levels. Government incentive programs fail. Period.

Centralization: Centralization is a philosophy that draws on our tendency to defer our personal responsibilities to others. It is the exact opposite of the principle I described above. More centralization is the source of our current economic problems, not the solution. By condensing the power of financial regulation and control into the hands of a minority of unaccountable men, like the private Federal Reserve, we relinquish our right to participate in the decision making process, and we reduce the value of the individual in our society overall.

Many people look for leadership, regardless how corrupt, just to avoid the dreadful proposition of having to shape their own destinies. In a new America free from globalism, this neurotic aversion to self-determination must end, and the average person must start taking on more responsibility for himself and his surroundings, not less. Even now, the IMF and World Bank along with financial elites here in the U.S. are suggesting world financial regulation and world government as a way to divert the carnage brought about by faulty policies those same organizations designed! The only way this nightmare will be implemented successfully is if you, the everyday American, continue to fear taking charge of your own life. Bigger government has never solved any of our social problems, it has only made them more pronounced. Why would anyone believe the concept of Global Government is any better?

One World Currency: There is still a host of naysayers in the mainstream financial world that deny there is any plan whatsoever for a one world currency. Just to be clear; the IMF has OPENLY admitted that its goal is the implementation of the SDR (Special Drawing Rights) as a world reserve currency to replace the Dollar in international trade, and to eventually surpass all currencies as the new “global currency”. You can read these admissions in the IMF’s own press releases:

http://www.imf.org/external/np/speeches/2010/051110.htm

Other analysts admit that the IMF has plans on the drawing board for a global currency, but claim such a move would never be instituted by the U.S. government. In fact, the U.S. has some of the highest SDR allocations of any country in its reserves. And now, even the U.S. Post Office is listing the SDR in its priority mail exchange rate tables:

http://pe.usps.com/text/imm/immc3_007.htm

Now, if the U.S. dollar is the world reserve currency, and is supposedly going to be the world reserve currency for years to come as mainstream analysts suggest, then why on Earth would our Treasury feel the need to allocate any SDR’s at all, and why would our own Postal Service use an SDR exchange rate table? Why is the SDR being treated as a viable currency today when skeptics claim that the SDR is not a currency at all? If the dollar is as strong as the establishment suggests, why are they obviously preparing for the rise of the SDR?

There are also those who suggest that a collapse in the Dollar would only damage the SDR because the SDR’s value is built on a “basket” of currencies which includes the dollar, making the implementation of the SDR as a global currency impossible These people don’t seem to understand how currency markets work, let alone how the IMF works.

In currency markets, buying power is generally shifted or dispersed, and not necessarily destroyed. As the U.S. dollar falls, other currencies gain ground. A good example is the Japanese Yen and its recent rise to a 15 year high against the Greenback (the Japanese are now attempting to intervene in the Yen). The Chinese Yuan, not yet included in the SDR basket, is set for a meteoric increase in value, especially if China decides to dump their U.S. Treasury reserves, a move that would likely buy them a spot at the SDR table.

A fall in the Dollar changes nothing in the SDR, it only leaves a hole that other countries will gladly fill with their own currencies.

Also, the SDR is not predicated on any hard fast rules. Many analysts today don’t comprehend this. Frankly, the SDR is whatever the IMF says it is! In the early 1970’s, the IMF used the SDR as a security representing a set amount of gold. In fact, the SDR used to be called “paper gold”. Then, they changed it to a basket of world currencies. Tomorrow, it could be something completely different. This is what happens when you give unelected central bankers unmitigated control over a financial instrument. They do whatever they please with it regardless of normal economic traditions or “codes of honor”. Any arguments that don’t take this fact into account are not even worth considering.

To be clear, global currency is being set up for implementation NOW, not ten years from now, or twenty, but now. Any acceptance of a global currency by the masses will result in complete economic centralization. The Federal Reserve is currently unaccountable, but they are still subject to legal audit and dissolution if the American people organize enough resistance and exert enough pressure to make it happen. A global currency is likely to leave no avenue for the people to question its viability or change its foundation. The IMF is outside the jurisdiction of any country or society, making it utterly immune to litigation, and regulation, and more prone to moral hazard. To hand over that much streamlined power to such a monstrosity in the “hope” that it will act in our best interests is pure insanity! Why not put Charles Manson in charge of a Cub Scout troop while we’re on a roll…

Digital Currency: About a month ago I was approached through email by a man representing an organization called ‘TGL’. He asked me if I would be interested in participating in a project called “Green Light”, which at first glance appears to be a sort of community service program centered not in local communities, but digital communities on the web. The goal, he said, was essentially to meld web communities with local communities until they worked in tandem towards the same directive. This would be accomplished by introducing a digital currency called “L”, which would create the incentives necessary to influence public participation. You can see a video commercial for Green Light here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fGGKDb7 ... r_embedded

I was intrigued by the concept initially because of the method by which “L” was given value. Basically, “L” is backed not by commodities such as gold or silver, not by traditional debt like the Dollar, but by the potential labor of those involved in the program. What this means is, the value of their digital currency relies on the stock of talents and skills of the people who also use L to purchase other people’s talents and skills. It all sounds quite symbiotic and very “green”, however, I have declined to participate, and here’s why…

While it is entirely possible that the designers of the concept have the best intentions and truly hope to stop the economic collapse, the problem is that their “solution” relies upon the creation of a currency which is even less tangible than paper fiat. Digital currency is perhaps the ultimate goal of central banks, because it diminishes all sense of fiscal discipline, not just from banking, but from society at large. One only needs to look up the amount of credit card debt held by the average American to see that digital currency promotes catastrophic financial bubbles. It also offers ultimate control over the finances of every citizen at the push of a button.

Next, the collectivist tone of the commercial and the program is obvious. While TGL is only a web based program for now, it was related to me that the end purpose was for Green Light to go global. Imagine an economy in which it is a cultural taboo NOT to participate in the collective because to refrain actually damages the whole. To not participate in Green Light diminishes the value of “L”, and thus diminishes the strength of the digital economy. Today, we call people who refuse to participate in our labor pool “bums”, or “freeloaders”, but in an economy totally dependent on a labor backed digital currency, freeloaders or peaceful non-conformists might be called “criminals”. The representative from TGL even compared Green Light to the world of ‘Star Trek’. Yikes…

Finally, the primary reason I will not participate in this program is because, as the representative admitted openly to me, Green Light was funded in part by the World Wildlife Fund. The WWF is a globalist organization supported by the Rockefeller Foundation. CEO’s and former CEO’s of globalist corporations like General Electric, Dupont, Coca Cola, and the Ford Foundation sit on its board:

http://www.worldwildlife.org/who/board/

Why is an elitist front group like the WWF, a supposed environmental conservation club, interested in funding digital currency projects? I suppose even if I could ask them directly I would not expect an honest answer, which leaves one only to speculate, using common sense, and the history of elitist influence on economy as a guide…

Anti-Industrial Retro-Egalitarian Theosophic Humanist Technocratic Fruity Tootie: As you can see, this is a catch all category for those people who are no longer grounded in reality, designing solutions that are so far outside of what is actually applicable they become a distraction from true progress. For some reason, certain people believe that in order to solve our globalist dilemma we need to reinvent the wheel. Sovereignty must go. Religion must go. Capitalism must go. Industry must go. The concept of currency must go. 80% of the world’s population must go. In some cases even the pursuit of new technologies must go. According to this crowd, humanity really had it great back when we were all dirt farmers and “one with nature”. I hate to break it to them, but society without innovation is a nightmare. They should just take a trip to the undeveloped parts of Africa and live in a starving village for a few years to see if it’s as romantic as they envision.

Invariably, these people see themselves as “misunderstood geniuses”, and blame the rest of humanity for our economic troubles, instead of the elites who engineered the whole process of collapse and centralization. When challenged, they act as though you are simply too stupid to grasp the majesty of their ideas.

Industry can never be erased. Human curiosity is too powerful a force to be held back. Currency is a product of intricate economy. If you exist solely in a village with little outside trade, then barter alone is fine. However, as soon as you begin expanding trade beyond the borders of your town square, you are going to need a better mechanism than barter. Currency as a concept is not the demon creation of elitists; it is the logical common sense extension of growing trade. “Currency” is not the problem, elitist controlled currency is the problem. Remove minority control by elites from the picture, and you will see true free markets in action. I do find it interesting though that technocrats and anti-humanists always attempt to divert the blame away from the men making the decisions that negatively affect our culture and towards “concepts” as the culprit. As if money itself is the source of evil, rather than those individuals or groups who misuse money for destructive purposes.

Again, this is all a distraction from the real world solutions available to us without wiping the slate entirely clean.

Real Solutions For Regular Americans

The basic premise of my solution to globalism is one of non-participation. As I talked about above, we must provide for ourselves and for others those human necessities the corrupt system cannot or will not. This means, if the system denies us meaningful community, we must build a meaningful community for ourselves. If the system denies us a stable currency, then we must start using our own. If the system denies us the truth and honest news providers, then we must establish and support our own information networks. The system, especially if it is a globalist collectivist one, requires that the masses rely on it. It requires that people NEED the system in order to survive. If people no longer rely on the system for their survival, the system becomes useless, and fades away. This can be done on an individual basis, and requires no traditional and structured organization. Let’s look at possible methods for applying this idea.

Alternative News: This solution is already in action and is a perfect example of the effectiveness of non-participation in the system. Right now, the ratings and viewership of mass media sources is crumbling, especially in terms of economic news. Alternative web news traffic is exploding. By providing the truth (a human necessity) we in the alternative media offered what the system would not. In response, millions of people have started to turn away from the system run media to get what they require. It’s very simple. We did not need to organize mass protests, riots, or guerilla takeovers of newsrooms. We did not need billions of dollars to buy a television network. We did not need to “get on the inside”, as some people humorously suggest, and try to leak the truth in tiny tidbits so that the corporate oligarchs wouldn’t notice. All we needed to do to take down the MSM was to make readily available that information which they kept hidden.

By providing alternative sources of information and by pointing out elitist activities while they are still in initial stages, we can also preempt their plans. By pointing out what they are doing while they are doing it, the globalists are forced to decide whether to continue their action to its end point and risk being exposed further to the public, or to stop before finishing and lay another plan to rest in the dustbin. Either way, we win.

This method can be applied to many more areas besides media…

Stop Participating In Banks: If you are a business owner with a lot of capital influx, this solution may be more difficult to follow. But, if you are a regular working stiff like me, this can be done easily. I have not had a bank account in four years and I have organized my expenses better than I did when I had accounts. While some banks may not be knowingly participating in the problem, all banks are under the purview of the Federal Reserve, which IS knowingly part of the problem. Banks create and loan money out of thin air, then charge people interest for the money that cost them nothing to make. By closing your bank accounts, you at least remove your part in the illusion that banks operate on reserves at all, as well as diminish their ability to abuse the capital you are providing them. Not to mention, you stop paying bank fees, you stop relying on debit cards and checks which saves you money, and, you protect yourself from a bank holiday. As we have covered on many occasions, the FDIC is broke, and when it finally goes under, there will be a run on banks. Better to have your money out now than be one of those in the frantic crowd begging the bank to open its doors so you can buy groceries.

As far as securing your money, unless you have millions, it’s clear-cut; just make a hiding place and stow it without telling anyone where it is. If you’re worried about your house burning down and your savings along with it, get a fireproof safe. The more people close their accounts, the less influence the banks have over our capital. It also exposes the fact that banks actually have little physical cash to back the accounts they list as holdings. If enough people do this, the false banking system itself could implode, which sounds disastrous, however, the fact remains that we cannot replace the corrupt system with an honest system until the corrupt system is removed.

Stop Participating In The Dollar: The dollar is done. Currently, House lawmakers are discussing trade sanctions against China for currency manipulation, and Japan has just intervened in its own currency this week:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-09-1 ... overy.html

This intervention was apparently unilateral, meaning it will not be supported by the U.S. and Europe (as we predicted in our last article). Where is this headed? I have no doubt we will see trade wars and currency wars between the West and Asia relatively soon:

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE68D12320100914

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/busines ... 5919825846

The U.S. Government may put on a happy face initially for Japan, and they may not immediately go after China, but it will happen eventually, especially as the U.S. economy continues to degrade. The government will have to offer a scapegoat, and China is likely to be it, along with Japan if they continue intervention. This will result in a Treasury bond dump by China, which they have been blatantly preparing for the past three years. The dollar will collapse, guaranteed.

How can you make a difference in such a massive problem? Place your savings in commodities like gold and silver.

If we are to end the tyranny of fiat, we have to have an alternative currency. Right now, precious metals are the best option. Gold has recently sprinted past previous records and is now holding around $1270 an ounce. This is just the beginning. I would not be surprised to see gold at around $1350 to $1400 by this winter. As the dollar continues to degrade, and as inflation becomes a reality, the best way to protect your savings will be through PM’s.

Skeptics will argue that gold is inherently “valueless”. I always respond by asking them how much more “value” they think their paper dollars have. Everyone wants to attack gold, but conversely, no one wants to actually compare the benefits of gold to fiat. I also usually refer people who parrot MSM talking points on gold to the early writings of Alan Greenspan, before he was sucked into the maniacal carnival death cult otherwise known as the Federal Reserve:

http://www.usagold.com/gildedopinion/greenspan.html

I have heard the argument that because we are facing a deflationary collapse, gold is a bad investment. First off, we are NOT in a traditional deflationary collapse. If you want to see one, go to Japan, where prices are actually deflating. Here in the U.S. prices on goods and commodities are rising, in some cases 25% or more over the past year:

http://www.crbtrader.com/crbindex/data.asp

Some who see rising prices claim that this is still deflation, and that prices are rising due to manipulation. I think it much more likely, as has been proven with gold and silver, that prices are being manipulated DOWN in most cases, not up. In fact, many retailers will absorb wholesale price increases on goods just to keep shelf prices stable in the hopes of maintaining their customer base. And yet, prices have still increased despite this manipulation since the crisis began. This is inflation. Analysts need to stop clinging to the typical idea of deflation and inflation and look at the situation as it is. While some elements of the economy are deflating, like housing, this does not mean that housing is any longer a good indicator of deflation in the rest of the economy. What we are seeing are elements of both inflation and deflation at the same time (and no, they don’t cancel each other out). Gold has held its own and will hold its own exactly because currencies around the world are being devalued and even greater inflation is a very real possibility.

Eventually, once the dollar and the global bankers are out of the picture, a gold backed currency could be implemented much like the currency we used rather successfully up until 1913 when the Federal Reserve was established and we slowly lost control over our money.

Buying gold and silver though is only a start…

Start An Alternative Economy: Individuals can put this into action by building barter and trade networks in their communities. Skills, labor, and goods can be traded by neighbors without government influence or interference in transactions. This can also be expanded to the web, and some people with ingenuity have done just that, including the ‘We Trade Network’, which you can view here (Special thanks to Catherine Austin Fitts for posting this to her website, Solari.com):

http://www.wetradenetwork.com/what.php

The barter network keeps wealth in communities and out of the corporate apparatus. It also allows us to be less affected by any economic collapse that does occur in the globalist system, because we will have already constructed our own system outside of its sphere of influence. Barter and trade alone are not enough though, and to be truly effective as an alternative community, we need industry.

Start A Micro-Industry: There are many savvy business people in the Liberty Movement; those that could establish a gold and silver based currency network, and those that have the means to create not titanic corporations, but at least micro-industries within their own communities. This starts with a standardization of payment.

If Liberty Movement business leaders began accepting gold and silver as payment for goods and services instead of requiring customers to exchange their PM’s for dollars before hand, this would go a long way towards building an alternative economy. If Liberty Movement Business leaders then started giving their employees the option of being paid in gold and silver instead of dollars, it would make an even bigger impression. Given the fact that the Liberty Movement is growing exponentially every year, and the fact that the dollar is likely to degrade heavily soon, this is also good business sense. It would only take a few influential men to initiate this process.

Those who wish to start a business in their communities and have sufficient space can organize local garden trade, solar power grids, furniture making, tool making, even small electronics outfits or telephone companies. The point is to separate oneself from the diseased system and start a healthy one, one community at a time. This is not difficult. It only requires that people stop thinking about taking action, and actually take action.

Support Constitutional Candidates: Vote for true Constitutionalists and proponents of limited government. Run for office yourself! Even if the deck is stacked against us in this regard, we should still try. Promote 10th Amendment rights of states, and your local sheriff (as long as he’s a good guy). Anything non-Federal should be pushed to the forefront of discussion. This is, in a way, another form on non-participation, because we are creating a political dynamic outside the system that is still influential on the system. Again, if the establishment will not provide honest candidates, or honest parties, we must provide our own.

Become Self Reliant: Supporting liberty based candidates is certainly worth doing, but it is not nearly as important as making yourself independent. You do not need large organizations with designated leaders and extensive funding to help you find meaning, or to further the cause of truth. That is something that can and should be pursued first and foremost by you alone. Organization comes later. It grows upon the works and deeds of individuals invested in a common idea. Freedom is a powerful common idea.

Something as unassuming as a personal garden can lead to a strong sense of self reliance, and there is no rule that says you have to start big. You just have to start somewhere.

Revolution?

The beauty of Non-Participation is that it is a revolutionary act that only makes us less threatening in the eyes of the uninformed, which is not what the establishment wants. I have already seen several MSM articles describing Tea Party candidates as “insurgents” (terrorists):

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 50010.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/1 ... 15694.html

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-0 ... imary.html

This kind of propaganda is a natural outgrowth of the system’s inability to cope with the idea that the people are no longer reliant upon it. By separating ourselves from the system, we diminish it, make it weak. In the case of the MSM, the alternative media has in some ways forced the system to let more truth filter down to the public just to keep people watching their garbage. We are gradually forcing them to conform to the truth. Unfortunately, I suspect this will not be the case in other fields.

Another option open to the establishment is the use of violence. This will be the likely reaction to the Liberty Movement’s efforts in politics and economy. Yet again, we benefit. Through non-participation, we force the elites to attack us, or to implement laws so outrageous as to be interpreted as an attack on the public. The people are already being victimized by the establishment, but if we as a movement or as individuals were to turn towards violence as an initial solution, we would be seen as the “bad guys”. This would only help the elites. We also do not want a French or Communist style revolution with angry mobs and guillotines that results in greater tyranny. What we want is an American Revolution. The Founding Fathers didn’t cross the ocean to go and lynch mob the British, they forced the British to make a choice; to leave the American independent states alone, or to come after them. By declaring themselves separate and thus no longer reliant on the British elites, American revolutionaries became defenders, not aggressors or terrorists.

By creating an economic alternative to the current system, we force the elites to make a choice. We become the defenders, and the establishment is revealed as the aggressor it really is. If we are attacked, then any violence we do reciprocate would be in self-defense, which is not only an understandable survival instinct but also a perfectly honorable response. This is the way to expand public support for liberty based concepts. This is the way to bring down despots.

In the end, it is up to you. Will you walk away from this article and continue waiting for the Liberty Movement to move you, or will you take action and progress the movement yourself? Will you make those first steps towards ending your reliance on a system that is designed to hurt you and your family, or will you sit still and wait for it to do so? Before you can force the elites to make their choice, you must make your own. The longer you wait, the harder it will be. What you don’t want, is for a stranger to one day make the choice for you…

[ http://neithercorp.us/npress/?p=767 ]

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Re: The Fuzzy Logic Of Useful Idiots

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:27 pm

That whole article appeared to agree with me front to back, no?

All of those solutions involve having money and power in the first place. "Place your savings in commodities like gold and silver." Savings of what? Earned from what? See what I mean?

We need to work for the system in order to achieve the power and access to tools necessary to opt out of it.

Give Mammon some credit. I also give Bruno much credit because that was an excellent and grounded article.
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Postby wintler2 » Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:25 pm

Bruce Dazzling wrote:And the climate labs WERE using some contrived and fabricated data.


Can i invite you to try and substantiate that claim. All the investigations into the hacked&leaked UEA-CRU emails found that, at worst, Mann and collegues were sometimes rude.

Bruce Dazzling wrote:Admitting that doesn't automatically invalidate the concept that the planet's climate is changing, which it is, and has done lots of times in its history, including well before man was driving SUVs, or even existing at all, actually.

Yes climate changes, the point is, it is now changing VERY VERY QUICKLY IN ONE DIRECTION.
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Postby wintler2 » Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:38 pm

Wombaticus Rex wrote:..We need to work for the system in order to achieve the power and access to tools necessary to opt out of it.

You can't opt out of something you are dependent upon.
If you're looking for solutions that provide the same consumerist standard of living that the Empire provides, then you're asking the impossible: our wealth is only possible thru massive systemic violence. Quit the '1st world' appetites, addictions and fixations, and autonomy comes much closer.
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:29 pm

wintler2 wrote:You can't opt out of something you are dependent upon.
If you're looking for solutions that provide the same consumerist standard of living that the Empire provides, then you're asking the impossible: our wealth is only possible thru massive systemic violence. Quit the '1st world' appetites, addictions and fixations, and autonomy comes much closer.


You can't achieve independence without access to resources.

If you're looking for solutions to opt out of the cycle of bullshit that Empire demands, then what you're asking for is expensive: breaking free is only possible through acquisition of land, basic technology and natural resources. Quit thinking "closer" is a substitute for being there, and you'll get there faster.

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Postby wintler2 » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:13 pm

Wombaticus Rex wrote:You can't achieve independence without access to resources. If you're looking for solutions to opt out of the cycle of bullshit that Empire demands, then what you're asking for is expensive: breaking free is only possible through acquisition of land, basic technology and natural resources.


Is it freedom to "render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's"?

Yes owning land & productive capital has its payoffs in the here & now for those people able to accumulate them, but there are drawbacks to being a wellpaid=sufficiently compliant and ruthless cog in the machine, yes? Morally, it eats at our insides, and for good reason.

More pragmaticly, we collectively make up the system that violently exploits us and others. Yes there are evil elites, but their power only rules because of our collective passive support. Every dollar we earn and every dollar spent feeds the beast.

The irony of it (lifeboat thinking) is, our voracious economic system will gobble up every utopian lifeboat it can find before it is done, because appropriating resources is what it does every second of the day. The bigger and sweeter your lifeboat, the sooner it will be claimed for 'the greater good'/economic growth/profits/jobs/'our children' etc. Private property rights are already a facade, you wait till collapse accelerates and govts start fearing for their own survival.

Wombaticus Rex wrote:Quit thinking "closer" is a substitute for being there, and you'll get there faster.

Closer isn't being there, but nobody gets there without getting closer first. There is no teleportation into sustainability, imho it can only ever be an educative, spiritual and behaviour change process.

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I disagree: they were a lie then and they are a lie now.

*on edit - rhetoric got the better of me, again. Yes currently most must to work to survive as they have no means other than $ economy to subsist. Most in anglosphere at least also get sucked into wanting=working way more than they need to subsist, which is great for our malignant economy & certain classes of humans & bad for everybody else.

Work tho will never buy you freedom, not while violence openly enforces dodgy money & corrupted law & politics. And there can be no real freedom until we relearn how to live as integrated communities within the limits of available resources. There is zero security in being an individual household that has 'got the lot'.
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Postby Sounder » Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:28 am

HMW wrote…
Probably a dangled 'cognitive infiltration' article meant to go viral on the leftie boards.

It makes more sense to think that ‘disinformation’ would appeal to an audiences pretenses rather than too challenge them. You know sort of like what HMW does, where a din of accusations paired with typical leftie pretenses substitutes for the dealing of issues of substance. Like for instance, Giordano Bruno's observation that most people react badly when the monuments to ones pretenses are challenged. As if the whole world will fall apart if all others do not accept your beliefs as being true in an absolute sense.

That’s OK though, I also like to challenge pretenses and do not mind being ignored for doing so. After all it would spoil the assertion that challenges to pretenses are a threat to personal identity that most folk are not ready or able to deal with.

So, another question for Hugh to ignore; Hugh, are your accusations toward Thom Hartman changed at all by his work in exposing the fraudulent nature of the establishment of corporate person-hood?
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Postby brainpanhandler » Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:09 am

Sounder wrote:
Hugh wrote:Probably a dangled 'cognitive infiltration' article meant to go viral on the leftie boards.


It makes more sense to think that ‘disinformation’ would appeal to an audience's pretenses rather than to challenge them.


I don't think Hugh would disagree with that, but he's referring to Cass Sunstein style "cognitive infiltration". See this thread: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26669

Give Hugh credit though for that little 'probably' qualifier he used. Such a small thing. So easy to do.


You know sort of like what HMW does, where a din of accusations paired with typical leftie pretenses substitutes for the dealing of issues of substance. Like for instance, Giordano Bruno's observation that most people react badly when the monuments to ones pretenses are challenged. As if the whole world will fall apart if all others do not accept your beliefs as being true in an absolute sense.


I don't think that's really an issue of substance. It's just sort of a really pedestrian observation. I think most school children would understand that people generally hate to be wrong and believe that they are always right and typically react badly when their cherished beliefs and biases are seriously challenged.

That’s OK though, I also like to challenge pretenses and do not mind being ignored for doing so.


My guess is you do mind. Exhibit 1] see below

Not that it matters to me, but just thought I'd point it out for you.

So, another question for Hugh to ignore; Hugh, are your accusations toward Thom Hartman changed at all by his work in exposing the fraudulent nature of the establishment of corporate person-hood?


Yah, he's probably going to ignore that. You really shouldn't let it bother you. You really shouldn't.
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Postby bks » Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:17 am

wintler, really well said.

wintler wrote:
\More pragmaticly, we collectively make up the system that violently exploits us and others. Yes there are evil elites, but their power only rules because of our collective passive support. Every dollar we earn and every dollar spent feeds the beast.


Here I will quibble. Elites rule not because of our collective passive support, but our individual passive support. All those hundreds of millions of individual actions don't amount to collective support, but mass support. No collective entity would be so passive. Collectivities could take dollars earned in "the system" and restrict their circulation to entities outside or on the margins of it (inside the collective) as much as possible, and weaken the centers of power over time in building new, smaller, locally responsive centers of economic gravity. All this takes organization first, yes, and a certain amount of resources to get it up and operating, but once that's done the resources needed to sustain the new system to will be gravitationally drawn to it.

Since most of us feel we're limited to acting as individuals -- that is, since we've failed to achieve sustainable collectivity -- our different degrees of acquiescence to "the system" can make sense for us along the lines WR was suggesting (but your point about the moral consequences of that approach are right on).
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