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Re: The Wikileaks Question

Postby JackRiddler » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:34 am

At any given time there are several thousand media distractions from this and everything important in play. There is no need to suggest Epstein is the story advanced specifically for the purpose of suppressing Assange's struggle.
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Re: The Wikileaks Question

Postby Grizzly » Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:12 am

Award-winning journalist Mark Davis has exposed the extent to which The Guardian and New York Times betrayed Julian Assange in 2010, and have played a pivotal and consciously dishonest role in smearing him ever since.

https://sputniknews.com/military/201908121076533649-assange-set-up-davis-guardian-new-york-times/

How The Guardian and New York Times 'Set Up' Julian Assange
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“All the statements made by journalists he worked with in the books and articles they’ve written and TV shows they’ve appeared on about their integrity versus Julian’s lack thereof, I can say are complete lies. I’m witness to it. Nick Davies, Julian’s main contact at The Guardian, has repeatedly made the claim Julian had a cavalier attitude to human life - that's simply not true. If there was any cavalier attitude, it was among Guardian journalists. They had disdain for the impact of this material, a type of ‘gallows humour’ as to what would happen those named in the documents if they were released,” Davis said.


“This was highly alarming to me, and I raised it with Julian. He’s a genius but he has a certain naivety about him - he thought highly of these guys, felt they were part of a collective effort and all in it together, rather than him being the source and them being the journalists. He didn’t quite believe they’d be pushing him out onto the plank, then saying ‘it’s not us, we’re just reporters’. It’s shameful,” Davis said.


Julian was their fall guy. They printed a lie. These two high priests of journalistic integrity very happily colluded, reporting on something that hadn’t happened. The entire searchable Afghan War Logs interface was the sole creation of The Guardian, they promoted it on their website and in the paper, but then they turned round and said ‘we didn’t publish this, Julian did’. They set him up from the start. They should be in jail too,” Davis concluded.


Read the whole thing! my God, what have we done!!

ALSO, As Australian government threatens to jail journalists, media chiefs denounce Julian Assange
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/08/19/asio-a19.html

The hypocrisy of the corporate media was on display last week at the two public hearings of an Australian parliamentary committee inquiry into the impact of intelligence agency and police powers on press freedom.

Even as a senior government official declared that anyone who leaked “top secret” information should “go to jail,” media chiefs backed the persecution of Julian Assange, which has set the precedent for the intensifying global war on journalism.

While claiming to champion the public’s “right to know,” media executives vilified the WikiLeaks founder for exposing the crimes, conspiracies and mass surveillance of the US-led spy and military apparatuses. They pledged to work more closely with the government and its agencies to ensure that any classified material they received would be suppressed or censored to protect “national security.”

Andrew Hastie, the ex-Special Forces commander who chairs the parliamentary security and intelligence committee, set the tone. He asked the media representatives to confirm that their “public interest journalism” was “quite distinct from the radical transparency advocated by Julian Assange and his merry band of WikiLeakers.”

Representing the Murdoch media, News Corp executive Campbell Reid replied: “Absolutely.” News Corp Australasia executive chairman Michael Miller declared: “Yes, it is.”

Asked by the Labor Party’s Mike Kelly, another former military officer, about the “reputable” media’s “relationship” with WikiLeaks in initially publishing some of the secret information about US and allied war crimes in Afghanistan and Iraq, Reid denounced Assange.

“[A]s to any of the editors or publishers along this table or in similar places around the world, none of us hid out in the Ecuadorian embassy,” Reid stated. “We take responsibility for what we publish. In hindsight, a lot of people who were involved in the Julian Assange matter painted him as a hero of journalism. That’s far from the case. If you’re going to just dump documents into the world and go, ‘Oh well, I’m conducting some kind of public duty,’ and people’s lives are in danger because of that, that’s not journalism; that’s irresponsibility.”

Assange did not “hide out” in London’s Ecuadorian embassy. The British government and police trapped him there for seven years after Ecuador granted him political asylum to protect him from being extradited, via Sweden, to the US on concocted espionage charges. Soon after Assange was ultimately arrested, the Trump administration confirmed his apprehension by unveiling US espionage charges, carrying 175 years’ imprisonment.

Far from “dumping” documents, WikiLeaks struck a powerful blow for the public’s “right to know” by publishing thousands of documents laying bare the illegal killings, regime-change plots and other anti-democratic operations of the US and other major powers. No evidence has ever been produced that lives were lost as a result. In fact, the Guardian and other media companies left it up to Assange to redact individual names.

As for “responsible journalism,” Reid described the collaboration between the media conglomerates and the security apparatuses to try to stop such damning material getting into the hands of the working class.

“[M]ostly in these contentious cases we actually have a good relationship with government agencies, and we’ll just say, ‘We have this information,’ and the agency will say: ‘This is dangerous to do. Don’t do it.’ I can’t think of a single occasion when there has been a defiance on the part of media to do the wrong thing.”

Reid broadened his attack from WikiLeaks to other web sites, denouncing “the kind of irresponsible or misbehaving journalism or information that is just posted online with no care or even bad intentions.” That was totally different, he insisted from “the kind of journalism that is represented by these companies.”

Similar declarations were made by Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) managing director David Anderson and Free TV Australia CEO Bridget Fair, representing the television networks. “[F]or anything that touches on national security we will often work with a respective agency before publishing,” Anderson emphasised.

This is precisely why millions of people distrust the corporate media and regard Assange and the jailed whistleblower Chelsea Manning as “heroes of journalism.” Their “radical transparency” broke through decades of complicity by the media in the crimes and abuses of the US and its allies, including Australia.

The Liberal-National government, in partnership with the Labor Party, convened the committee’s inquiry in an attempt to quell the public anger over two Australian Federal Police (AFP) raids on journalists in June—less than two months after Assange’s April 11 arrest in London—while justifying the intimidation and persecution of whistleblowers and the publication of their exposures.

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Re: The Wikileaks Question

Postby Grizzly » Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:12 pm



I know whose getting my money for news...
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Re: The Wikileaks Question

Postby Grizzly » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:22 am

https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiLeaks/comments/cx7l4b/as_assange_languishes_in_prison_in_the_uk_a/As Assange languishes in prison in the UK, a reminder that Paul Close, the UK CPS lawyer whose entire email account was deleted (to avoid FOIAs), rejoiced in his suffering. This is the barbarism the UK practices, and which its citizens celebrate.
Source: https://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2018/0 ... 188758273/

A must read along this one, key to understand the role of the UK, sourced from FOIAs.

Here is what actual doctors who visited him, as opposed to neocon lawyers from their offices, said:

We examined Julian Assange, and he badly needs care – but he can’t get it

JULIAN ASSANGE SUFFERED SEVERE PSYCHOLOGICAL AND PHYSICAL HARM IN ECUADORIAN EMBASSY, DOCTORS SAY

Lady Emma Arbuthnot, the judge, said to Assange regarding access to fresh air that he could "sit on the balcony (I accept probably observed by the police and his supporters) to take the air.". That balcony would be this one.

As former British ambassador Craig Murray says:

She also remarked – and repeats it in yesterday’s judgement – that Assange has access to fresh air through the Embassy’s balcony. That is simply untrue. The “balcony” floor is 3 feet by 20 inches and gives no opportunity to exercise. Julian does not have access to it. He is confined to a small area within the Embassy, which still has to function. The balcony is off the Ambassador’s office. He has been given access to it on average about twice a year. But “Lady” Arbuthnot showed a very selective attitude to getting at the truth.

This judge's husband, Baron James Arbuthnot, a former Tory MP for 28 years, has worked for several organizations linked to the UK military and UK intelligence. WikiLeaks exposed many of these. An obvious conflict of interest, which the UN's Special Rapporteur on Torture called out.
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Re: The Wikileaks Question

Postby coffin_dodger » Sat Aug 31, 2019 3:36 am

This is the barbarism the UK practices, and which its citizens celebrate.


No we don't. The citizens of the UK (that give a shit about anything other than TV and work) are no more responsible for Assange's arrest than the average American is for bombing every Arab country into oblivion.
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Re: The Wikileaks Question

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:29 pm

Hey! We haven't bombed Saudi Arabia.
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Re: The Wikileaks Question

Postby Grizzly » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:16 pm

remember a tweet by Jullian Assange in 2017 saying how they were going to push through the mass spying bill on Christmas day. Honesty could they be any more shady about it lol. I'm almost impressed by how effective a move like that was. I'd be willing to bet 99.9% of Americans don't even know this happened.

https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/statu ... 2787079168

This was the tweet, it was quickly deleted but someone did archive it read

Congress is planning to push through the "702" Bush-Obama mass spying bill under the cover of Christmas
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Re: The Wikileaks Question

Postby stickdog99 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:48 pm

“[M]ostly in these contentious cases we actually have a good relationship with government agencies, and we’ll just say, ‘We have this information,’ and the agency will say: ‘This is dangerous to do. Don’t do it.’ I can’t think of a single occasion when there has been a defiance on the part of media to do the wrong thing.”


Wow. Not a single instance of corporate journalists informing the public of anything against the advice of government agencies. That's freedom of the press in the starkest Orwellian definition.
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Re: The Wikileaks Question

Postby Grizzly » Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:25 am

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"Holder, Barr, DOJ and FBI Outed in Slimy Plot Against Assange"
https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/06/29/holder-barr-doj-and-fbi-outed-in-slimy-plot-against-assange/
A careful read of this stunning investigative piece in Iceland’s Stundin newspaper reveals that in June 2011 Eric Holder (no doubt with Obama’s enthusiastic approval) initiated a disgraceful FBI frame-up of Julian Assange. Displaying their usual incompetence, the FBI thoroughly screwed up the Holder framing assignment by coming up with a child-molesting embezzler and sociopath as their spy and agent provocateur within the Icelandic branch of Wikileaks, thereby creating such a mess that the Minister of the Interior had our federal gumshoes thrown out of Iceland.

Undeterred by the 2011 mess, in May of 2019 William Barr (probably with equally enthusiastic approval from his boss) stepped into Holder’s shoes by reigniting the disgusting Assange frame-up plot. Quite incredibly, he and the FBI re-embraced the same old child-molesting embezzler–now freshly out of the Icelandic penitentiary–to bear false witness on a raft of newly concocted DOJ criminal charges against Assange. As part of the payoff to their jailbird stool pigeon, the FBI-DOJ even promised him US immunity from whatever string of fraud, forging and hacking crimes he had committed in Iceland over the years–immunity that apparently inspired this creep to launch a new and expanded crime wave.

I defy you to find a whisper of this major scandal anywhere in our MSM (save Amy Goodman, who managed to get this past the NPR filter). Nor will you find a whisper in the UK’s MSM, who of course will be busy covering up Westminster District Judge Vanessa Baraitser’s complicity in the fraudulent US charges.

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For the record, the Icelandic article

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:35 am

The news report from Iceland...

https://stundin.is/grein/13627/

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Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment
Bjartmar Oddur Þeyr Alexandersson bjartmar@stundin.is

A major witness in the United States’ Department of Justice case against Julian Assange has admitted to fabricating key accusations in the indictment against the Wikileaks founder. The witness, who has a documented history with sociopathy and has received several convictions for sexual abuse of minors and wide-ranging financial fraud, made the admission in a newly published interview in Stundin where he also confessed to having continued his crime spree whilst working with the Department of Justice and FBI and receiving a promise of immunity from prosecution.

The man in question, Sigurdur Ingi Thordarson, was recruited by US authorities to build a case against Assange after misleading them to believe he was previously a close associate of his. In fact he had volunteered on a limited basis to raise money for Wikileaks in 2010 but was found to have used that opportunity to embezzle more than $50,000 from the organization. Julian Assange was visiting Thordarson’s home country of Iceland around this time due to his work with Icelandic media and members of parliament in preparing the Icelandic Modern Media Initiative, a press freedom project that produced a parliamentary resolution supporting whistleblowers and investigative journalism.

The United States is currently seeking Assange’s extradition from the United Kingdom in order to try him for espionage relating to the release of leaked classified documents. If convicted, he could face up to 175 years in prison. The indictment has sparked fears for press freedoms in the United States and beyond and prompted strong statements in support of Assange from Amnesty International, Reporters without borders, the editorial staff of the Washington Post and many others.

US officials presented an updated version of an indictment against him to a Magistrate court in London last summer. The veracity of the information contained therein is now directly contradicted by the main witness, whose testimony it is based on.

No instruction from Assange

The court documents refer to Mr Thordarson simply as “Teenager” (a reference to his youthful appearance rather than true age, he is 28 years old) and Iceland as “NATO Country 1” but make no real effort to hide the identity of either. They purport to show that Assange instructed Thordarson to commit computer intrusions or hacking in Iceland.

The aim of this addition to the indictment was apparently to shore up and support the conspiracy charge against Assange in relation to his interactions with Chelsea Manning. Those occurred around the same time he resided in Iceland and the authors of the indictment felt they could strengthen their case by alleging he was involved in illegal activity there as well. This activity was said to include attempts to hack into the computers of members of parliament and record their conversations.

In fact, Thordarson now admits to Stundin that Assange never asked him to hack or access phone recordings of MPs. His new claim is that he had in fact received some files from a third party who claimed to have recorded MPs and had offered to share them with Assange without having any idea what they actually contained. He claims he never checked the contents of the files or even if they contained audio recordings as his third party source suggested. He further admits the claim, that Assange had instructed or asked him to access computers in order to find any such recordings, is false.

Nonetheless, the tactics employed by US officials appear to have been successful as can be gleaned from the ruling of Magistrate Court Judge Vanessa Baraitser on January 4th of this year. Although she ruled against extradition, she did so purely on humanitarian grounds relating to Assange’s health concerns, suicide risk and the conditions he would face in confinement in US prisons. With regards to the actual accusations made in the indictment Baraitser sided with the arguments of the American legal team, including citing the specific samples from Iceland which are now seriously called into question.

Other misleading elements can be found in the indictment, and later reflected in the Magistrate’s judgement, based on Thordarson’s now admitted lies. One is a reference to Icelandic bank documents. The Magistrate court judgement reads: “It is alleged that Mr. Assange and Teenager failed a joint attempt to decrypt a file stolen from a “NATO country 1” bank”.

Sigurdur Ingi Thordarson
Mynd: Sigtryggur Ari

Thordarson admits to Stundin that this actually refers to a well publicised event in which an encrypted file was leaked from an Icelandic bank and assumed to contain information about defaulted loans provided by the Icelandic Landsbanki. The bank went under in the fall of 2008, along with almost all other financial institutions in Iceland, and plunged the country into a severe economic crisis. The file was at this time, in summer of 2010, shared by many online who attempted to decrypt it for the public interest purpose of revealing what precipitated the financial crisis. Nothing supports the claim that this file was even “stolen” per se, as it was assumed to have been distributed by whistleblowers from inside the failed bank.

More deceptive language emerges in the aforementioned judgment where it states: “...he [Assange] used the unauthorized access given to him by a source, to access a government website of NATO country-1 used to track police vehicles.”

This depiction leaves out an important element, one that Thordarson clarifies in his interview with Stundin. The login information was in fact his own and not obtained through any nefarious means. In fact, he now admits he had been given this access as a matter of routine due to his work as a first responder while volunteering for a search and rescue team. He also says Assange never asked for any such access.

Revealing chat logs

Thordarson spoke with a journalist from Stundin for several hours as he prepared a thorough investigative report into his activities that include never before published chat logs and new documents.

The chat logs were gathered by Thordarson himself and give a comprehensive picture of his communications whilst he was volunteering for Wikileaks in 2010 and 11. It entails his talks with WikiLeaks staff as well as unauthorized communications with members of international hacking groups that he got into contact with via his role as a moderator on an open IRC WikiLeaks forum, which is a form of live online chat. There is no indication WikiLeaks staff had any knowledge of Thordarson’s contacts with aforementioned hacking groups, indeed the logs show his clear deception.

The communications there show a pattern where Thordarson is constantly inflating his position within WikiLeaks, describing himself as chief of staff, head of communications, No 2 in the organization or responsible for recruits. In these communications Thordarson frequently asks the hackers to either access material from Icelandic entities or attack Icelandic websites with so-called DDoS attacks. These are designed to disable sites and make them inaccessible but not cause permanent damage to content.

Stundin cannot find any evidence that Thordarson was ever instructed to make those requests by anyone inside WikiLeaks. Thordarson himself is not even claiming that, although he explains this as something Assange was aware of or that he had interpreted it so that this was expected of him. How this supposed non-verbal communication took place he cannot explain.

Furthermore, he never explained why WikiLeaks would be interested in attacking any interests in Iceland, especially at such a sensitive time while they were in the midst of publishing a huge trove of US diplomatic cables as part of an international media partnership. Assange is not known to have had any grievances with Icelandic authorities and was in fact working with members of parliament in updating Iceland’s freedom of press laws for the 21st century.

On the FBI radar

Thordarson's rogue acts were not limited to communications of that nature as he also admits to Stundin that he set up avenues of communication with journalists and had media pay for lavish trips abroad where he mispresented himself as an official representative of WikiLeaks.

He also admits that he stole documents from WikiLeaks staff by copying their hard drives. Among those were documents from Renata Avila, a lawyer who worked for the organization and Mr. Assange.

Thordarson continued to step up his illicit activities in the summer of 2011 when he established communication with “Sabu”, the online moniker of Hector Xavier Monsegur, a hacker and a member of the rather infamous LulzSec hacker group. In that effort all indications are that Thordarson was acting alone without any authorization, let alone urging, from anyone inside WikiLeaks.



Hector Xavier MonsegurA hacker and a member of the rather infamous LulzSec hacker group.

Mynd: afp

What Thordarson did not know at the time was that the FBI had arrested Sabu in the beginning of June 2011 and threatened him into becoming an informant and a collaborator for the FBI. Thus, when Thordarson continued his previous pattern of requesting attacks on Icelandic interests, the FBI knew and saw an opportunity to implicate Julian Assange.

Later that month a DDoS attack was performed against the websites of several government institutions.

That deed was done under the watchful eyes of the FBI who must have authorized the attack or even initiated it, as Sabu was at that point their man. What followed was an episode where it seems obvious that Icelandic authorities were fooled into cooperation under false pretenses.

Ögmundur Jónasson was minister of interior at time and as such the political head of police and prosecution and says of the US activities: “They were trying to use things here [in Iceland] and use people in our country to spin a web, a cobweb that would catch Julian Assange”.

“They were trying to use things here [in Iceland] and use people in our country to spin a web, a cobweb that would catch Julian Assange”
Jónasson recalls that when the FBI first contacted Icelandic authorities on June 20th 2011 it was to warn Iceland of an imminent and grave threat of intrusion against government computers. A few days later FBI agents flew to Iceland and offered formally to assist in thwarting this grave danger. The offer was accepted and on July 4th a formal rogatory letter was sent to Iceland to seal the mutual assistance.. Jónasson speculates that already then the US was laying the groundwork for its ultimate purpose, not to assist Iceland but entrap Julian Assange:

“What I have been pondering ever since is if the spinning of the web had already started then with the acceptance of the letter rogatory establishing cooperation that they could use as a pretext for later visits,” says Jónasson.

Icelandic policemen were sent to the US to gather further evidence of this so-called imminent danger and Jónasson says he does not recall anything of substance coming out of that visit and no further attacks were made against Icelandic interests.

But the FBI would return.

Icelandic officials deceived by the US

Towards the end of August, Thordarson was being pursued by WikiLeaks staff who wished to locate the proceeds of online sales of WikiLeaks merchandise. It emerged Thordarson had instructed the funds be sent to his private bank account by forging an email in the name of Julian Assange.

Thordarson saw a way out and on August 23d he sent an email to the US Embassy in Iceland offering information in relation to a criminal investigation. He was replied to with a call and confirmed that he was offering to be an informant in the case against Julian Assange.

The prosecutors and FBI were quick in responding and within 48 hrs a private jet landed in Reykjavik with around eight agents who quickly set up meetings with Thordarson and with people from the Icelandic State Prosecutors office and the State Police Commissioner.

Ögmundur JónassonFormer Iceland Minister of the Interior.
Mynd: Davíð Þór

Mid day, Mr. Jónasson, then Minister of Interior got wind of this new visit and requested confirmation that this related to the same case as earlier in the summer. “I asked on what rogatory letter this visit was based and if this was exactly the same case”, Jónasson says in an interview with Stundin. “I then found out that this was of a totally different nature than previously discussed”. He says he put two and two together and said it was obvious that the intention was to lay a trap in Iceland for Assange and other staff members of WikiLeaks.

Such actions were according to Jónasson way outside the scope of the agreement and thus he ordered that all cooperation with the agents be stopped and that they would be informed they were acting in Iceland without any authority. Only days later he learned that the agents and prosecutors had not yet left the country so the Ministry of Foreign Affairs contacted the US embassy with the demand they halt police work in Iceland and leave the country.

They did, but left with the new informant and “star witness”, Sigurdur Ingi Thordarson who flew with them to Denmark.

Not a hacker but a sociopath

Thordarson has been nicknamed Siggi the hacker in Iceland. That is actually an antonym as several sources Stundin has talked to claim that Thordarson's computer ability is menial. This is supported by several chat logs and documents where he is requesting assistance from others doing rather uncomplicated computer jobs. Once he even sought FBI expert help in uploading a video from his own phone.

The meeting in Denmark was the first of a few where the FBI enthusiastically embraced the idea of co-operation with Thordarson. He says they wanted to know everything about WikiLeaks, including physical security of staff. They took material he had gathered, including data he had stolen from WikiLeaks employees and even planned to send him to England with a wire. Thordarson claimed in interviews he had refused that particular request. It was probably because he was not welcomed anymore as he knew WikiLeaks people had found out, or were about to firmly establish, that he had embezzled funds from the organization.

After months of collaboration the FBI seem to have lost interest. At about the same time charges were piling up against Thordarson with the Icelandic authorities for massive fraud, forgeries and theft on the one hand and for sexual violations against underage boys he had tricked or forced into sexual acts on the other.

After long investigations Thordarson was sentenced in 2013 and 2014 and received relatively lenient sentences as the judge took into account that he changed his plea at court and pleaded guilty to all counts.

According to a psychiatric assessment presented to the court Thordarson was diagnosed as a sociopath, incapable of remorse but still criminally culpable for his actions. He was assessed to be able to understand the basic difference between right and wrong, He just did not seem to care.

Incarceration did not seem to have an intended effect of stopping Thordarson from continuing his life of crime. It actually took off and expanded in extent and scope in 2019 when the Trump-era DoJ decided to revisit him, giving him a formal status as witness in the prosecution against Julian Assange and granting him immunity in return from any prosecution.

The New York Times Problem

In the month following Assange's arrest in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London on April 11th 2019 a new rogatory letter arrived in the Ministry of Justice in Iceland. This time the request was to take a formal statement from Thordarson in Iceland in the presence of his lawyer. The Ministry had a new political head at the time, who had limited knowledge of the prior history of the case.

Although the Department of Justice had spent extreme resources attempting to build a case against Julian Assange during the Obama presidency, they had decided against indicting Assange. The main concern was what was called “The New York Times Problem”, namely that there was such a difficulty in distinguishing between WikiLeaks publications and NYT publications of the same material that going after one party would pose grave First Amendment concerns.

Sigurdur Ingi Thordarson and Julian Assange

President Donald Trump's appointed Attorney general William Barr did not share these concerns, and neither did his Trump-appointed deputy Kellen S. Dwyer. Barr, who faced severe criticism for politicizing the DoJ on behalf of the president, got the ball rolling on the Assange case once again. Their argument was that if they could prove he was a criminal rather than a journalist the charges would stick, and that was where Thordarson’s testimony would be key.

In May 2019 Thordarson was offered an immunity deal, signed by Dwyer, that granted him immunity from prosecution based on any information on wrong doing they had on him. The deal, seen in writing by Stundin, also guarantees that the DoJ would not share any such information to other prosecutorial or law enforcement agencies. That would include Icelandic ones, meaning that the Americans will not share information on crimes he might have committed threatening Icelandic security interests – and the Americans apparently had plenty of those but had over the years failed to share them with their Icelandic counterparts.

In any event, Assange has never been suspected of any wrongdoing in Iceland. Stundin has seen confirmation of this from the District Prosecutor in Iceland, the Reykjavik Metropolitan Police. Assange has no entry in the LÖKE database of any police activity linked to an individual collected by the Icelandic State Police Commissioner from 2009-2021.

Assange's lawyer also inquired in the Icelandic Foreign Ministry if the points in his updated indictment where Iceland is referred to as NATO country 1 meant that his case had any relevance to Icelandic membership to NATO, the bilateral defense agreement between USA and Iceland or any national security interests. All such connections were dismissed in a reply from the defense attache at the Ministry.

Immunity and a new crimespree

According to information obtained by Stundin the immunity deal between DoJ and Thordarson was presented at the Headquarters of the Reykjavik police where the only role of the Icelandic policeman was to confirm the identity of Thordarson before leaving him alone with his lawyer in the back room where he met the US delegation.

It is as if the offer of immunity, later secured and sealed in a meeting in DC, had encouraged Thordarson to take bolder steps in crime. He started to fleece individuals and companies on a grander scale than ever; usually by either acquiring or forming legal entities he then used to borrow merchandise, rent luxury cars, even order large quantities of goods from wholesalers without any intention to pay for these goods and services.

Sigurdur Ingi Thordarson
Mynd: Pressphotos/Geirix

Thordarson also forged the name of his own lawyer on notices to the Company House registry, falsely claiming to have raised the equity of two companies to over 800 thousand US dollars. The aim was to use these entities with solid financial positions on paper in a real estate venture.

The lawyer has reported the forgery to the police where other similar cases, along with multiple other reports of theft and trickery, are now piling up.

When confronted with evidence of all these crimes by a Stundin journalist he simply admitted to everything and explained it away as normal business practice. He has not yet been charged and is still practicing this “business”. Local newspaper DV reported last week that Thordarson had attempted to order merchandise on credit using a new company name, Icelandic Vermin Control. Despite using a fake name and a COVID face mask he was identified and the transaction was stopped. He was last seen speeding away in a white Tesla, according to DV.
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MPs visit Belmarsh with Stella Morris, demand to see Assange

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:54 am

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Re: MPs visit Belmarsh with Stella Morris, demand to see Ass

Postby Harvey » Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:43 pm



^ It really pisses me off that they didn't do this two years ago. My local MP (Labour - one of the original 'chicken coup' signatories) has been stupefyingly useless on this, but to be fair, he's equally useless on most of the other pressing issues as well. The explanation he gave for his inaction was that he had been reliably informed by media that Julian Assange was a very bad man and probably deserved to be banged up. I'm pretty sure the fucker is out on his arse at the next election.
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Reviewing the thread...

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Jul 01, 2021 12:24 am

Damn, after 30 pages it was still in 2010.

Fascinating to view 10+ years on knowing where it was heading.

So much right, and so much wrong, in the posts from 10 years ago.

Also, found this around p. 30, links to other early Wikileaks threads.

There have been several to many more since, including current ones, we should probably add to have an index.

JackRiddler » Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:14 pm wrote:since this is new page, index repost:

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Message to Posterity: Wikileaks Threads on RI

The Wikileaks Question
by JackRiddler » Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:10 pm (27 pages)
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=30362

Assange Amazing Adventures of Captain Neo in Blonde Land.
by seemslikeadream » Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:29 pm (9 pages)
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=29320

Questioning WikiLeaks Thread
by Montag » Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:50 pm (7 pages)
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=29933

Cryptome founder/Wikileaks co-founder:"Wikileaks is a fraud"
by lupercal » Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:19 am (5 pages)
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=30479

The rush to smear Assange's rape accuser.
by barracuda » Wed Dec 08, 2010 3:17 pm (3 pages)
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=30485

Cables Shine Light Into Secret Diplomatic Channels WIKI!
by seemslikeadream » Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:29 pm (2 pages)
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=30359

Another new one:

Even Xymphora gets it, on collaboration
by hava1 » Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:32 am
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=30508

EDIT:

Dradin Kastell wrote:JackRiddler, you missed the seminal thread on the Swedish issue:

Julian Assange wanted in Sweden for alleged rapes
by jingofever » Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:09 am (5 pages)
http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=29246

Some pretty relevant information in that thread, already in August-September.
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