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Julian Assange Freed on Bail

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:58 am

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Julian Assange granted bail at high court
WikiLeaks founder is wanted in Sweden for questioning over allegations of rape

Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder, is led into the high court in London this morning. Photograph: Leon Neal/AFP/Getty Images
Britain's high court today decided to grant bail to Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder who is wanted in Sweden for questioning over allegations of rape.

Justice Duncan Ouseley agreed with a decision by the City of Westminister earlier in the week to release Assange on strict conditions: £200,000 cash deposit, with a further £40,000 guaranteed in two sureties of £20,000 and strict conditions on his movement.

Assange stood in a dark grey suit in the courtroom dock as Ouseley began hearing an appeal by British prosecutors acting on behalf of Sweden.

There was an early sign that the day would go in Assange's favour when Ouseley said: "The history of the way it [the case] has been dealt with by the Swedish prosecutors would give Mr Assange some basis that he might be acquitted following a trial."

The 39-year-old Australian arrived at the high court in a white prison van. Photographers swarmed around the vehicle in an attempt to get a picture. Amid intense media interest, a queue of journalists had formed as early as 6am.

Mark Stephens, one of Assange's lawyers, said before the proceedings that the bail money had been raised from Assange's supporters and "appears to be in the banking system". Stephens again complained about the conditions in which Assange had been held, describing them as Victorian.

Assange has been held in solitary confinement, released from his cell for only one hour a day, and his mail has been heavily censored, according to his supporters.

Today's hearing followed a decision by senior district judge Howard Riddle to grant Assange bail, but he remained in Wandsworth prison, where he has been held for a week, as prosecutors gave notice they would appeal.

Assange is fighting attempts to extradite him to Sweden for questioning over allegations of sexual misconduct including rape made by two female WikiLeaks volunteers, which he denies.

"It's an ongoing investigation in Sweden and the prosecutor needs to interrogate him to make a decision on the matter," said Karin Rosander, a spokeswoman for the Swedish prosecution agency.

Bail conditions set by Riddle stipulate that Assange must stay at a country house in Suffolk owned by Vaughan Smith, the founder of the Frontline club in west London, report to police daily and wear an electronic tag.

Meanwhile, it emerged that the decision to have Assange sent to a London jail and kept there was taken by the British authorities and not by prosecutors in Sweden.

It had been widely supposed that Sweden had taken the decision to oppose bail, with the Crown Prosecution Service acting merely as its representative. But the Swedish prosecutor's office told the Guardian it had "not got a view at all on bail" and that Britain had made the decision to oppose bail.

Karin Rosander, director of communications for Sweden's prosecutor's office, said: "The decision was made by the British prosecutor. I got it confirmed by the CPS this morning that the decision to appeal the granting of bail was entirely a matter for the CPS. The Swedish prosecutors are not entitled to make decisions within Britain. It is entirely up to the British authorities to handle it."

As a result, she said, Sweden would not submit any new evidence or arguments to the high court hearing. "The Swedish authorities are not involved in these proceedings. We have not got a view at all on bail."

After the Swedish statement was put to the CPS, it confirmed that all decisions concerning the opposing of bail being granted to Assange had been taken by its lawyers. "In all extradition cases, decisions on bail issues are always taken by the domestic prosecuting authority," it said. "It would not be practical for prosecutors in a foreign jurisdiction … to make such decisions."

Assange and his lawyers have expressed fears of a looming legal battle in the US, where prosecutors may be preparing to indict him for espionage over WikiLeaks' publication of the documents.

The New York Times reported that federal prosecutors were looking for evidence that Assange had conspired with a former US army intelligence analyst suspected of leaking classified documents.

Among the material prosecutors are studying is an online chat log in which Private Bradley Manning is said to claim that while he was downloading government files he was directly communicating with Assange using an encrypted internet conferencing service, according to the Times. Manning is also said to have claimed that Assange gave him access to a dedicated server for uploading some of them to WikiLeaks.
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Re: Julian Assange Freed on Bail

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:35 pm

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This is a start. Clear now that UK imposed the detention, not Sweden. We can hope the case falls apart in Sweden before the US makes its move on "espionage."

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Re: Julian Assange Freed on Bail

Postby anothershamus » Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:49 pm

Thanks for that photo, got a good morning laugh!
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Re: Julian Assange Freed on Bail

Postby Cosmic Cowbell » Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:05 pm

JackRiddler wrote:.

This is a start. Clear now that UK imposed the detention, not Sweden. We can hope the case falls apart in Sweden before the US makes its move on "espionage."

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Not likely. He'll resist extradition, the indictment will be made sooner than later (no other option really) and he'll stand in a US court eventually, extradited from either the UK or Sweden. It's either that or skip and become the hunted (it would certainly add to his "legend" and cachet in some circles)...IMO. He'll continue to threaten TPTB with "the Key" if he is held and his bluff will be called. He (or his associates) may release the key, he/they may not. A question I have if this occurs is this. Since anyone could have downloaded what I'll assume is an un-redacted cable dump, and there is indeed information that may put lives in danger in various parts of the world for whatever reason, would/could JA be charge as an accomplice in any violence which may occur as a result?

It seems as if this is where the saga is headed...and I'm just asking.
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Re: Julian Assange Freed on Bail

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:13 pm

Cosmic Cowbell wrote:
JackRiddler wrote:.

This is a start. Clear now that UK imposed the detention, not Sweden. We can hope the case falls apart in Sweden before the US makes its move on "espionage."

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Not likely. He'll resist extradition, the indictment will be made sooner than later (no other option really) and he'll stand in a US court eventually, extradited from either the UK or Sweden. It's either that or skip and become the hunted (it would certainly add to his "legend" and cachet in some circles)...IMO. He'll continue to threaten TPTB with "the Key" if he is held and his bluff will be called. He (or his associates) may release the key, he/they may not. A question I have if this occurs is this. Since anyone could have downloaded what I'll assume is an un-redacted cable dump, and there is indeed information that may put lives in danger in various parts of the world for whatever reason, would/could JA be charge as an accomplice in any violence which may occur as a result?

It seems as if this is where the saga is headed...and I'm just asking.



The intent of the gradual release strategy seems to be in drawing attention to the cables, without overwhelming everyone (after which most of the stories would be forgotten and the material would go mostly unread and untreated for years to come). So far it's been effective for that purpose, and the "History Insurance" is supposed to guarantee that it can't be stopped. The negative is allowing establishment media control over the sequence of release and much of the spin. The positives are in using their far greater resources to help with the warranted editing, have the means to expose them when they use their editing to cover-up, and have the protection of them being among the publishers.

You're absolutely right to highlight the dangers in this. The Justice Department has sent a letter to Wikileaks demanding the "return" of their "stolen property." Their thinking seems to be that while they may be helpless about what's already out, and although all cables are already in the hands of multiple publications, they may yet be able to criminalize further releases. Or, at least, construct an actionability against Wikileaks for publishing "new" material, and make an example of them whether or not the releases can be stop.

If Wikileaks releases the key at this stage, and thus everything (including whatever may be on the insurance file besides the cables), it might indeed merit the thermonuclear metaphor, as in: mutual assured destruction. The prosecutors would try to argue that this was the real leak, and no doubt the state would immediately hit Assange and Wikileaks with every means at their disposal, legal and otherwise.

Now that the History Insurance is in hundreds of thousands of hands, Wikileaks can't go back and edit it to omit material, e.g. of the kind that might cause informant killings. As though this would even be possible in an airtight fashion. And they can't release a revised History Insurance without undermining their credibility.

We also have no way of knowing who may have visited Assange in the last nine days to threaten or negotiate.

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Re: Julian Assange Freed on Bail

Postby Simulist » Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:42 pm

Cosmic Cowbell wrote:
JackRiddler wrote:.

This is a start. Clear now that UK imposed the detention, not Sweden. We can hope the case falls apart in Sweden before the US makes its move on "espionage."

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Not likely. He'll resist extradition, the indictment will be made sooner than later (no other option really) and he'll stand in a US court eventually, extradited from either the UK or Sweden. It's either that or skip and become the hunted (it would certainly add to his "legend" and cachet in some circles)...IMO. He'll continue to threaten TPTB with "the Key" if he is held and his bluff will be called. He (or his associates) may release the key, he/they may not. A question I have if this occurs is this. Since anyone could have downloaded what I'll assume is an un-redacted cable dump, and there is indeed information that may put lives in danger in various parts of the world for whatever reason, would/could JA be charge as an accomplice in any violence which may occur as a result?

It seems as if this is where the saga is headed...and I'm just asking.

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Re: Julian Assange Freed on Bail

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:45 pm

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REUTERS PICTURES 15 MINUTES AGO
WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange celebrates as he emerges to speak to the media on the steps of the High Court, in London December 16, 2010. Assange was freed on bail on Thursday while he fights extradition to Sweden over allegations of sex crimes

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Re: Julian Assange Freed on Bail

Postby nathan28 » Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:20 pm

seemslikeadream wrote:Image

REUTERS PICTURES 15 MINUTES AGO
WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange celebrates as he emerges to speak to the media on the steps of the High Court, in London December 16, 2010. Assange was freed on bail on Thursday while he fights extradition to Sweden over allegations of sex crimes


He's smiling, and it looks like they allowed him to shave in lock-up. OBVIOUSLY a total psyop.
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Re: Julian Assange Freed on Bail

Postby barracuda » Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:23 pm

Video of his brief statement to the press here.
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Re: Julian Assange Freed on Bail

Postby Nordic » Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:45 pm

Speaking of psyops/ photo ops (damn those terms are similar), the photo on Newsweek's cover, of him, should not escape mention. It was a real professional job, done by a top photographer under the employ of Newsweek (or was it Time?) . If he was so "in hiding" and "on the run" and all of that, how did he manage to do a professional photo sitting for one of the top corporate media magazines?

It reminded me greatly of the notorious photo of Glenn Beck's shoot, where he made himself up with tears to look like he was crying, and the photographer was a supposed liberal.

Anyone remember that?
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Postby barracuda » Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:49 pm

Nordic wrote: If he was so "in hiding" and "on the run" and all of that, how did he manage to do a professional photo sitting for one of the top corporate media magazines?


Anssange has not been in hiding in Britian since he got there in October. He gave his contact information to British authorities upon his arrival.
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Re: Julian Assange Freed on Bail

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:25 pm

Nordic wrote:Speaking of psyops/ photo ops (damn those terms are similar), the photo on Newsweek's cover, of him, should not escape mention. It was a real professional job, done by a top photographer under the employ of Newsweek (or was it Time?) . If he was so "in hiding" and "on the run" and all of that, how did he manage to do a professional photo sitting for one of the top corporate media magazines?


TIME. Last week. With an American flag gag photoshopped over his mouth.

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Yup, that's a very professional portrait picture. Obviously the first association is Beck play-acting his tears, but also Hitler roasting kittens on a spit. Yeah, that's what it really reminds me of. And George Soros.

Is this nonsense about Assange "in hiding" and "on the run" and a "manhunt" EVER going to stop?!

It's never been the case. It's always been a media construct. His location and travels have been known to state authorities the entire time since the Swedish charges (and obviously before), as the press occasionally made clear in the fine print. (Which a lot of people around here could actually stand to read.)

I'm getting that feeling...

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Re: Julian Assange Freed on Bail

Postby nathan28 » Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:37 pm

JackRiddler wrote:
Nordic wrote:Speaking of psyops/ photo ops (damn those terms are similar), the photo on Newsweek's cover, of him, should not escape mention. It was a real professional job, done by a top photographer under the employ of Newsweek (or was it Time?) . If he was so "in hiding" and "on the run" and all of that, how did he manage to do a professional photo sitting for one of the top corporate media magazines?


TIME. Last week. With an American flag gag photoshopped over his mouth.

Image

Yup, that's a very professional portrait picture. Obviously the first association is Beck play-acting his tears, but also Hitler roasting kittens on a spit. Yeah, that's what it really reminds me of. And George Soros.

Is this nonsense about Assange "in hiding" and "on the run" and a "manhunt" EVER going to stop?!

It's never been the case. It's always been a media construct. His location and travels have been known to state authorities the entire time since the Swedish charges (and obviously before), as the press occasionally made clear in the fine print. (Which a lot of people around here could actually stand to read.)

I'm getting that feeling...

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He did state that he was staying over the top of the journalist bar largely in 'secret', though I gathered that meant "undisclosed location as far as yahoos are concerned".
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Re: Julian Assange Freed on Bail

Postby Plutonia » Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:32 am

Most bullying interviewer evar. JA fronts her out like an avalanche! They didn't stand a chance, Against his battle plans. Robert here have your channel... oh, nevermind

Wikileaks' Julian Assange tells of 'smear campaign'

Wikileaks founder Julian Assange has said attempts to extradite him to Sweden over sexual assault allegations are part of a "smear" campaign.

He cites some numbers that will make your eyes pop.
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Re: Julian Assange Freed on Bail

Postby 8bitagent » Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:29 am

This whole wikileaks thing is a movie of the week on tv at best so far. It'd be titled "Much Ado About Nothing" or "Yawn the movie"...maybe "Captain Obvious".

It's a cute limited hangout...make a huge to do over "oooohhhh how taboo!" crap we already know or diplomat gossip...as if to see "see, those conspiracy theorists are nuts, if there was any secrets they'd be in the open! All the secrets are just boring usual stuff". By making him "public enemy number one", it makes him look "edgy".

Yet....it's not wikileaks, but mainstream news that's had the biggest whoppers when it comes to the deep state.

Some of the headlines in the last half year include "CIA made fake bin Laden video"(washingtonpost, which also stated the CIA in 2003 wanted to make a video of Saddam allegedly having sex with a young boy),
"al Qaeda leader dined at Pentagon after 9/11"(Fox), "Witness In Defense Pentagon Case Exposes 9/11 intelligence coverup"(fox), "BP helped get Lockerbie bomber free?"(Reuters), "Pfizer having to pay up in deadly child experiments and creating AIDS like virus"(Rawstory), etc.
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