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If Sirhan is released, he would be the first imprisoned political assassin to win parole in the U.S.
hava1 wrote:nobody can be brainwashed into killing, what will happen to personal accountability, and where does this end ? remember, fascism means nobody assumes responsibility, its always "they made me do it".
2.) Miss [redacted] was then instructed (having previously expressed a fear of firearms in any fashion) that she would use every method at her disposal to awaken Miss [redacted] (now in a deep hypnotic sleep) and failing this, she would pick up a pistol nearby and fire it at Miss [redacted]. She was instructed that her rage would be so great that she would not hesitate to "kill" for failing to awaken. Miss [redacted] carried out these suggestions to the letter including firing the (unloaded pneumatic pistol) gun at [redacted] and then proceeding to fall into a deep sleep.
Jeff wrote:As of right now - and the story is almost 24 hours old - the only paper printing Sirhan and Pepper's actual defense is the UK's Daily Mail. No US source mentions brainwashing. Every US report alleges only that Sirhan "can't remember."
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A lawyer for Sirhan Sirhan, the confessed assassin of Robert F. Kennedy, plans to present new evidence at a parole board hearing suggesting that he did not act alone, was potentially brain washed and cannot remember anything about the 43-year-old shooting.
"There is no question he was hypno-programmed," lawyer William F. Pepper told ABCNews.com. "He was set up. He was used. He was manipulated."
Sirhan will appear before a California parole board on Wednesday for the 14th time since his May 1969 sentencing. It is the first time he will be represented by Pepper.
Taking a page from the conspiracies that have dogged the assassination of Kennedy's brother President John F. Kennedy, Pepper plans to introduce new evidence that suggests there was a second gunman who fatally shot RFK in the kitchen of a Los Angeles hotel, following his victory in the 1968 California presidential primary.
Pepper said he believes Sirhan was "hypno-programmed," essentially brainwashed to kill Kennedy and his memories were then erased.
The lawyer's tale has all the makings of a great conspiracy theory, if not a science fiction thriller akin to the "Manchurian Candidate."
"Ten independent witnesses say Sirhan was always in front of Bobby, never behind him," said Pepper, "but the autopsy says Bobby was shot at close range from behind the right ear."
Pepper says he believes he knows who ordered Sirhan to shoot Kennedy, but won't yet say who it is. He said in addition to the parole hearing, he is preparing an appeal.
hava1 wrote:nobody can be brainwashed into killing, what will happen to personal accountability, and where does this end ? remember, fascism means nobody assumes responsibility, its always "they made me do it".
I don't believe Sirhan killed anyone. I do believe he was brainwashed.
01 Mar 2011 16:17
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Re: Sirhan Sirhan: I was brainwashed' into killing
hava1 wrote:
nobody can be brainwashed into killing, what will happen to personal accountability, and where does this end ? remember, fascism means nobody assumes responsibility, its always "they made me do it".
I'm surprised at your statement, Hava, and I'll counter, people most certainly can be brainwashed into killing. We don't even need to look to the MC survivor literature for that, it's in the MKULTRA documentation.
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2.) Miss [redacted] was then instructed (having previously expressed a fear of firearms in any fashion) that she would use every method at her disposal to awaken Miss [redacted] (now in a deep hypnotic sleep) and failing this, she would pick up a pistol nearby and fire it at Miss [redacted]. She was instructed that her rage would be so great that she would not hesitate to "kill" for failing to awaken. Miss [redacted] carried out these suggestions to the letter including firing the (unloaded pneumatic pistol) gun at [redacted] and then proceeding to fall into a deep sleep.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/38088065/Decl ... ultra-Docs
If someone is conditioned to imagine a gun pointed to their head as reminder of the consequences of non-compliance, how much does it matter whether the gun is always physically present? That hypothetical doesn't even take into account the dissociation involved, the splitting of aspects of self away from those that maintain their own will and are connected to a central sense of right and wrong.
Stephen Morgan wrote:hava1 wrote:nobody can be brainwashed into killing, what will happen to personal accountability, and where does this end ? remember, fascism means nobody assumes responsibility, its always "they made me do it".
People can be brainwashed to kill, and have been. The CIA experimentally verified it.
And what Jeff said, brainwashed but not the gunman, which was Thane Eugene Cesar.
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