Is The Trump Thing Serious?

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Re: Is The Trump Thing Serious?

Postby Sounder » Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:23 pm

He is the farce to scare you all.


But you must admit he does provide fodder for some pretty good analysis and commentary.

How does a guy that goes bankrupt in 2009, and supposedly, this year also, happen to be a 'billionaire'?

Maybe he is just paying his debt by showing a 'super rich' dude as being just like a regular guy.
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Re: Is The Trump Thing Serious?

Postby zangtang » Sun Aug 23, 2015 6:32 am

Interesting Time magazine cover.......

Deal with it...
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Re: Is The Trump Thing Serious?

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Re: Is The Trump Thing Serious?

Postby justdrew » Sun Aug 23, 2015 2:34 pm

peartreed » 22 Aug 2015 14:45 wrote:Occupy Democrats posted a quote from Paul Thomas of the New Zealand Herald:

"Trump personifies everything the rest of the world despises about America: casual racism, crass materialism, relentless self-aggrandizement, vulgarity on an epic scale. The fact that so many Republicans are comfortable with the thought of this monumentally unqualified man in the Oval Office shows how warped the Party has become."

From this Canadian's perspective, it is less a condemnation of the Republican Party than an illustration of the ignorance of Trump supporters permeating a horrifyingly huge percentage of the nation's population. His popularity in the polls portrays a political rebellion that would crown a clown rather than continue the Establishment Status Quo. Understandable dissent directed to deify a demented dictator endangers the world, as history has shown us time and time again. Surely the American voters are not that stupid.


eh, he's just an American Stephen Harper :moresarcasm
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Re: Is The Trump Thing Serious?

Postby zangtang » Sun Aug 23, 2015 2:52 pm

They let Bush steal 2 consecutive elections, did they not, & this after Bush 41?.........................
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Re: Is The Trump Thing Serious?

Postby 82_28 » Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:57 pm

Just for the fuck of it an infiltrator should act like they're cheering or whatever people stoked on trump do when he gets close to them and "accidentally" knock his ball cap off.
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Re: Is The Trump Thing Serious?

Postby 82_28 » Tue Aug 25, 2015 3:38 pm

When I was 20, I worked in a warehouse in Beachwood, Ohio. I was washing my hands in the bathroom and looking in the mirror when I saw scalp through my beautiful wavy brown hair, which was shocking because did I mention I had beautiful wavy brown hair? I did the reasonable thing: I pretended I didn't see it. It's probably an optical illusion caused by this warehouse bathroom lighting, I reasoned. Who lit this warehouse? Stephen King? I'm just seeing things.

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This guy totally looks like Ron Howard under the wrong light.

But I was losing my hair. Every few showers, I noticed that the bald spot from my forehead to the back of my head had grown. I later learned I had Class VI baldness, which "occurs when the connecting bridge of hair disappears, leaving a single large bald area on the front and top of the scalp. The hair on the sides of the scalp remains relatively high." Unlike the poor bastards with Level VII baldness -- the guys with just a thin wreath of hair -- I still had plenty. I had side hair. I had options!

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Wooo, Class VI! That qualifies you for at least master sergeant in the Bald Man's Army.

OK, I had two options. I could shave my head, or I could comb my remaining side hair over the top of my head. I can hear you now. Shave your head! No-brainer! Yeah, but it was the 1990s. Bald wasn't cool yet. I had no fashion sense. (I owned clothing that contained the words "Co-Ed Naked" -- it hurts my fingers to type that.) And I was shy. I didn't want to be noticed. I was the kind of person who looked at the phone with dread every time it rang.

I didn't make a conscious decision. I just started combing my hair over. At first, no one noticed, mainly because I wore a hat most of the time. Then a couple of friends made comments -- either in jest or in support. The supportive comments hurt more, because they were tinged with pity. "It happens to a lot of men," is a sentence no guy ever wants to hear under any circumstance.

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"Don't worry, not getting to have sex with me happens to a lot of men."

One day in college I met up with a girl I liked to watch a track meet. I was sitting in the stands with her and a few of her friends when the wind blew so hard, it lifted my comb-over off my head, not unlike the opening of a toilet lid. I held my hair on my head and kept talking as if it was perfectly normal for an adult man to use his hand to keep his hair from flying off his head. The conversation, as you would imagine, stopped. I excused myself, and I never saw the girl again. I mean, ever. I think she transferred schools immediately after the track meet.

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A wise man once said: A man with toilet-lid hair is often crapped upon.

It was from this humbling experience that I learned a valuable lesson about comb-overs. What's that? Shave my head? No way. I decided I needed hair spray.

I am not exactly certain how Rave Super Hold became my comb-over hairspray of choice. I probably picked it because the bottle was blue, and it had the word "super" in it, which was a masculine adjective a masculine guy like me could identify with, and it had the word "hold," which is what I needed it to do.

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Also, Elmer's didn't make big enough bottles.

I took a blue bottle of Rave Super Hold with me everywhere. I tossed one in the bag I took to class. I packed one up when I graduated from Ohio University. I took one to work every day on my first job. I brought one with me when I traveled. I kept an extra bottle in the car, just in case. Prior to baldness, I'd never used hair product. As a bald man, I used it all the time.

Eventually, I just looked ridiculous. After showering, I had 8-inch-long strands of hair extending from the right side of my head down to my shoulder, no hair in the middle of my head, and a regular cut in the back and on the left-hand side. It took five minutes every morning to comb my hair just right so that no scalp could be seen from the front, although plenty was visible from the back. This look has been described as the Al Gore.

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If your look brings to mind Al Gore in any way, your look needs to go.

One of my best friends is a hair stylist. He begged me to shave my head. "It looks fine," I told him. "I don't care about my hair." And I really didn't. I did not care at all how I looked. I was a short, chubby guy with no hair. If I cared how I looked, I would just be sad all the time. I had other things I could offer a woman -- namely, being a nice guy. But my friend saw the big picture better than I did.

I met a girl. I liked her. She overlooked my chubbiness and baldness, and we got together a few times. One night she tried to run her fingers through my hair and was probably shocked to find that I had Rave Super Hold-ed it into plasticity. Soon after that, she stopped returning my calls. It was a low point, the kind that makes you thumb your suspenders and go "We're making some changes around here."

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First change: New hairstyle. Second change: Buy a belt.

I hit the gym, went on a diet, and lost weight. On Memorial Day weekend, five years after I started losing my hair, I walked into my Arlington, Virginia, barber shop, where I was the only white customer I ever saw. I asked the barber to shave my head. He knew he would lose a customer. I knew I would lose the only street cred I'd ever earned. But we both knew it had to be done.

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"Trust me, son, you don't need to worry about your street cred."

The response I received from friends and loved ones was overwhelmingly positive. My brother dropped his margarita on the floor when he saw my new head. Then he hugged me. Even strangers liked it. Black guys -- many of whom also had shaved heads -- randomly stopped me on the streets of Washington to tell me they liked my head. A few months later, I started dating the woman I would eventually marry. For the first time in my life, I drew confidence from my appearance. Shaving my head was one of the best decisions I ever made.

So why did it take so long?

Psychologists say that people use stories to sort their memories, plan for the future, and make decisions. I told myself a story. The story I told myself was that a woman would be attracted to me for my personality, not for how I look. This story shielded me from actual rejection because it limited the number of women who were attracted to me, and it gave me a reason when it didn't work out. I could always blame her shallowness, not the fact that I was overweight and balding and wore mom jeans.

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They're called "mom jeans" because they're total MILF magnets, right? Right?

It wasn't until I actually wanted a relationship -- there is a difference between wanting it and WANTING IT -- that it became clear that change was necessary. I needed to shave my head, lose weight, and buy some cool clothes for once. There are women who want to date nice guys, and they're more likely to break their own pattern of dating jerks to date a nice guy if the nice guy knows how to dress himself and his hair never flops off his head in mid-conversation.

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Postby IanEye » Tue Aug 25, 2015 3:57 pm

Remember the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge?
I am starting to think that Trump will suddenly announce out of the blue that he is shaving his head for charity, and if the other individuals seeking the Republican nomination don't follow suit, then they are total losers.

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Then he will stay bald and never look back.




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Re: Is The Trump Thing Serious?

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:02 am

Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Is The Trump Thing Serious?

Postby 8bitagent » Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:39 am

Well, I guess we got the answer to this. And bin Laden. So weird looking back at all our posts and threads over the past decade
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Re: Is The Trump Thing Serious?

Postby brekin » Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:40 pm

8bitagent wrote:Well, I guess we got the answer to this. And bin Laden. So weird looking back at all our posts and threads over the past decade


Yeah, going through the scrap book looking at misty watercolor memories. I wrote this in August. I honestly didn't think he'd be president, I was worried though. But I think my fear at this time was how much media play he got. It dwarfed everyone. I honestly think more than demographics the amount of media play he got was responsible for his rise and election. His message was extreme, but it playing so much made it seem worthy of attention. Also, his scandals towards the end operated as publicity to. It wasn't like a shaming really, but more akin to the episodes of the Kardashians where they have to deal with a "crisis". By privileging his presence so much, he was made the protagonist early on. I think when Hilary had her scandals, they damaged her established persona, "up to sneaky things". Whereas his scandals just reinforced his persona "he does what the fuck he wants because he can", which the media help establish over and over and over and over again, but through his own words.

brekin » Sat Aug 22, 2015 12:16 am wrote:The one thing that has been made abundantly clear is Trump just oozes copy for the media machine. Bush Jr. was such a media gift because he was a steady stream of gaffes and Clint Eastwoodesque political one liners (so much more than poppa bear). That made him perpetually watchable if unbearable (hey kind of like TD, ;) just joshing die hards.) Obama was new money as a candidate but pretty boring as a president along the lines of Bush Sr., he was polished like Reagan but didn't have his bravado. Even when he is mad I still can't shake how much he reminds me of the vulcan Tuvok from Star Trek he resembles a bit. He also doesn't have Clinton's quick adaptable political mind that made Clinton a perpetual candidate trying to constantly win your vote and so when Obama goes off script and gives a gut reaction it is knee jerk and alienating. Trump is Stalinistic in his plan to take over the country and as crazy as his message is, it is train wreck watchable. See it takes someone like Charlie Sheen to cut through all the layers of media saturation now and I honestly know more about Trump and other candidates only in relation to what they say contra Trump. Trump is always in the news because he doesn't give a fuck about the niceties that non-billionaires must adhere to, has grandiose but fuzzy master race plans, is a mysogynazi (did I just invent that word?) and he overkills in retaliation to the slightest criticism. That my friends is like a Combs/Kardashian/Sheen/Hitler/Morton Downey Jr./Stalin/Phil Spector manwich that media obese America cannot put down.
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Re: Is The Trump Thing Serious?

Postby 8bitagent » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:22 am

Going thru my early April 2011 thoughts here

8bitagent » Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:55 pm wrote:
Luther Blissett wrote:It does not seem that the powers that be are finished with Obama yet. Think about his story arc as we were predicting it to play out from 2004 to 2016. The message we were sent with his presidency is not yet completed; and we've predicted it accurately thus far.



I also suspect one of these days they'll also wrap up the bin Laden saga as well, perhaps even producing the real man himself.

Obama, Osama...a coincidence? There's been no other two polar opposite/polarizing figures used within a decade media cycle before. Osama is the devil! Obama is the lightbringer! Only Obama get get Osama.




8bitagent » Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:16 am wrote:Trump is #2 under Romney with mainline Republicans, and #1 with Tea Partiers. Romney, Huckabee, Gingrich all seem like goofy hasbeen windbags with zero charisma no matter where you're standing.
But how will the 2012 narrative play out? While it seemed clear by 2007 that Brand Obama(tm) was to be the chosen (s)election, 2012 seems more unsure than ever.

To counteract Obama, the right needs someone larger than life. Since there's no actor in a position, Trump may be the closest thing. Ron Paul is not someone whom they would want, even if he might not be the most social justice/civil rights minded person.

Trump seems like he's right out of a movie, the brash say what the angry populace wants to hear, raw raw "restore America" bravado(I agree tho, about needing to take care of schools and cities at home instead of overseas)

Yet, as we've seen in virtually every disaster/end of the world movie...it's always a black guy as president.

What's your guys take on Trump, his chances, and what his scenario could be? Will Trump be it?



We should have seen the narrative all along. Filtered thru an RI lens, everything fits. RI is about bizarre, taboo, big ideas...speaking the weird, imagining the cosmic horror, and the cosmic giggle.

I no longer think Trump "got lucky with some 'rust belt' counties...I think there is something much more bizarre and cosmic at play
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Re: Is The Trump Thing Serious?

Postby RocketMan » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:25 am

----> The Festering Darkness That Is Steve Bannon
-I don't like hoodlums.
-That's just a word, Marlowe. We have that kind of world. Two wars gave it to us and we are going to keep it.
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Re: Is The Trump Thing Serious?

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