Dutchsinse Weather Predictions, New Madrid Watch

[eyeno]

I changed the name of this thread. There is so much weird stuff going on around New Madrid that I think a thread dedicated to New Madrid area might be a good thing to have. A place to start compiling info. If it keeps raining like it is, and there is an earthquake in the area, it is going to be one 'hell' of a mess.


This has a lot of links in the article. Best to click through for the rest of the reading. I have been following him closely and these rays he talks about are there. You have to be looking for them to see them on the radar, be ready to stop the radar, back it up, etc...but you can definitely see them and they shoot for hundreds of miles sometimes. They are not always present but when they are you can see them if you look for them. You have to use several different radar sites too because one radar site will not show everything. I'll try to post some of the links I have been using to see all this stuff.

Sometimes the rays are faint and sometimes they are very pronounced. Long thin lines and they are very straight. The mosaic radar with the blue is best to see these straight lines if I remember correctly.

HAARP expert, human rights defender predicted deadly storms (video)

A situation is gaining national interest due to investigative journalist and human rights defender known as Dutch Since, who specializes in HAARP weather warfare and unmistakably predicted this week's series of deadly southland's storms with extraordinary accuracy. He allegedly bases his predictions on HAARP rings and scaler squares that he documents on video using official US data.


http://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in ... dly-storms

[eyeno]

If you look at this radar 'right now' this minute you can see them.

http://www.atmos.washington.edu/weather/radar.shtml

[eyeno]

While all eyes are on Osama a potentially serious flooding situation is developing in New Madrid. I heard a 20 second blurb earlier tonight on mainstream news that said they intend to blow the levees at Cairo tonight. Mainstream news is totally avoiding this area and this story for the most part. This might be a good place to be snooping.

"While the amount of evacuees currently numbers in the hundreds, it could soon number in the tens of thousands as levees are topped or breached and rivers expand their girth into more farming communities, towns and cities," stated Sosnowski Friday.

More rain and severe thunderstorms, meaning more possible tornadoes, "may return by early next week," says Sosnowski.

Stress on levees will not only last days, says the expert, "but weeks as the huge rivers such as the Mississippi and Ohio take much longer to fall below flood stage than smaller rivers."

The Army Corps of Engineers prepared to breach the levee at Birds Point, Mo. to possibly prevent a levee breach at Cairo, Ill and thus, possibly take some pressure off the levee protecting the city, but a court battle halted those plans according to Friday's AccuWeather report.

Expect "at the very least, episodes of flash and small stream flooding on a local basis in the region through much of May" and "an increase in risk of storms with severe weather and flooding farther north over the Midwest, than what we have seen so far this spring," says Sosnowski.

"The surge of high water will also continue to work downstream in the weeks ahead, reaching areas from Memphis to New Orleans."

Over 3 million people in eleven states practiced "Drop, Cover, and Hold On" at 10:15 a.m. Thursday as part of the Great Central US ShakeOut! (Also see www,cusec.com)

FEMA has planned a national level exercise this month, "preparing our nation for a catastrophic earthquake." ("Censored survival news: HAARP quakes, Fukushima radiation,' Dupré, D. Examiner, April 22, 2011)

"Atypical" tornado formations

As Arkansas television viewers watched tornado warnings last week on KARK 4, they saw two very active reporters with their maps behind them. After hours of the storms that night, they agreed that never had they ever seen such odd tornado formations.

Chief Meteorologist Mike Francis is noted for his dynamic personality.

"Viewers loved him there, and we listen to our viewers,” said KARK 4 News Director Rob Heverling.

Along with sending endearing comments of concern to his wife on the program each time a tornado neared their home, Chief Metorologist Francis repeated several times during the special program that evening that he had never seen such strangely forming tornadoes.

Viewers saw a particularly animated Chief Meteorologist that night when the map clearly indicated a tornado had formed on the east side of one of the many storms, rather on the typical west side in the direction it was moving.

"This is really atypical, isn't it?" the Chief Meteorologist asked his colleague.
Increasingly asked in the Deep South is, "Is this another giant coincidence that FEMA's training exercise, according to the government document, National Level Exercise 2011, was planned for end of April 2011, or is this another giant step toward the Pentagon's Full Spectrum Dominance and New World Order's Agenda 21's depopulation by using Weather Warfare?"

Wouldn't that be something if we had a quake and a flood at the same time? They do have "underwater" body bags ordered for this event. Just sayin...

and on edit I just had a bad thought. this Sosnowski seems to maybe be throwing out hints that this will last for weeks. The PTB has barges full of explosives in this area. There are a lot of levees in the Tenessee Valley and if the wrong ones were to 'fail' it could be bad.

Quietly in early April, the Department of Defense (DoD) was trying to negotiate with state governors to accept troops on the ground in their respective states, in case of "natural disasters." President Obama then signed a Memorandum to the DoD, authorizing what it wanted, US troops for disaster.

And then? Only days before the deadly attack on the south, a cloud seeding operation was executed in Texas - starting point of the deadly storms that headed from there to the east and northeast, bringing immediate death and destruction, plus Fukushima and Gulf radiation onto croplands that might survive the flooding, and onto the people. Sunday, the Army Corps of Engineers laid explosives to blow-up a levee, against voice of the people in what has been dubbed "Project Flood."

Collateral damage tally from the 45 tornados that hit the 7 southern states is increasing as the humanitarian crisis grows daily as heavy rains flood the devastated area. ABC News reports that Alabama was hardest hit with 1,700 people injured and the official state death toll, 248.

After at least one storm recorded as an EF5 that meteorologist James LaDue at Warning Decision Training Branch said is worse than a hurricane in terms of damage potential and equals the March 11 tsunami that struck Japan. (ABC)

And it just dawned on me that with all the silly Osama stuff there is practically no news coverage on these huge tornadoes. A little coverage at first and now nothing.

[seemslikeadream]

thanks for the thread

Quake and Switch?

I'll start by saying that the odds of me being wrong are very high. Yet still, my sense is that a major earthquake is pending based on magnetometer deflections which are way out of the average/normal range. And it strikes me as highly coincidental - or not.



We begin, therefore by reporting that Osama bin Laden is dead - or so goes the tale.



But it's not our focus of attention this morning. What is? We ought to have a huge earthquake today, maybe tomorrow. Reason? I watch magnetometers - a lot - and the kind of excursions we have been seeing over the weekend have only occurred (in recent memory) around large-scale seismological events. In fact, the last time we saw such data was preceding the Japan quake.



So - if I were a betting man - my first bet of the week is that as questions arise wonder if that's really Osama bin Laden who was killed, or just a photoshopped picture - will quickly be brushed aside by headlines shortly of something else...like the possibility of a major earthquake.



The University of Alaska HAARP Project magnetometer chain this morning looks like this:



No, this doesn't mean HAARP will be or is in any way causative. What HAARP does have is a publicly accessible database which records a known magnetometer chain in the surrounding hinterlands of Alaska and what's going on now is significantly larger than what was happening before the Japan quake.

As you can see plain as day, the overnight Friday into Saturday deflection was greater than -700 nT. The same system recorded a fluctuation in the Earth's magnetic field of only -440 (approximately) prior to the Japan quake. Why, with the association of Osama bin Laden's number of hijackers (19) and the significant digits of tomorrow adding up to (5/3/11) 19 such an event would not at all surprise us.

One little oddity: The BBC says bin Laden's body "has already been disposed of at sea'" which, given the public's interest sounds curious. I would have thought a full-on public match up with any dental records or identification marks and yada, yada. But no....

Again: This is NOT to claim a "quake and switch" is in the works. I'm only noting that a large news item has been floated just ahead of a period when in the past under similar conditions of magnetometer deflections, we saw a major earthquake. Coincidence in the making - or not...still, there's this, too:

Levee Breach Going Ahead

Meantime, there's the little "trillion pound problem" which is going ahead up in Illinois. The US Army Corps of Engineers is getting ready to blow a hole in a levee along the Mississippi in order to intentionally flood 130,000 acres with - near as our back of the envelope calcs have it - somewhere north of 1-trillion pounds of additional water weight exactly on the north side of the New Madrid seismic zone.

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Since "history is written by the winners" we're confident that any "coincidental" earthquake up that way would be handed off as "lucky coincidence" for FEMA which has been planning the New Madrid National Level Exercise (NLE) for months...

The Trillion Pound Question
Thought it would be fun this morning to tromp through a couple of stats about how this month has gone, since this has been a rip-snortin' doozy...screaming metals, collapsing banks and a cratering US Dollar. Makes it easy for a financial columnist to write on mornings like this; there is no shortage of subject matter. But the "one trillion pound question" in New Madrid does grab our immediate attention. We're on high alert for a major quake.


Killer Storms, Climbing Deaths and the Trillion Pound Problem

We've only gotten about an inch of rain so far, here in our corner of East Texas, but to to the north and east of us, things have turned into a deadly, soggy, mess.

Reports are that more than a million people in Alabama were without power, and the death toll from the tornados is now well past 300. More than 1,700 injuries in Alabama alone.



Not only is the month pushing this tornado season into the record books, but the winds that hit Northeast Mississippi are reported as 205 miles per hour which would be the first F5 since 1966.



But the part of the weather story which has been somewhat glossed over by the MSM is the decision by a federal judge on Friday to allow the US Army Corps of engineers to blow a levee on the Mississippi in order to try and alleviate flooding in the southern Illinois city of Cairo. (KAY-row if you're ever up there, not KIE-row, which is in Egypt.)



All of which has gotten the attention of the various alternative/to/conspiracy types because this would flood 130,000 acres of farmland.



The thinking goes that not only was the judge in this case (Steven Limbaugh, Jr.)a cousin of a prominent radio person, but the area is smack-dab in the midst of the New Madrid Seismic Zone as you can see in this USGS map:



File:New Madrid and Wabash seizmic zones-USGS.png



Let's run some numbers, shall we?



An acre is 43,560 square feet.



And let's estimate that the average depth of the planned flooding will only be three feet, which means each flooded acre will contain 130,680 cubic feet of water. A cubic foot of water weighs 62.427 pounds, so the additional surface load might average, let's call it 8.1 million pounds.



Which we multiply times 130,000 acres to get 1,053.000.000,000 pounds of water being placed over New Madrid. And as quickly as gravity can move the water.



About the only thing missing would be a high pressure area, to further accentuate the impact. Oh, the barometer in Cairo, IL this morning was 29.91 and rising so kinda keep an ear open on when the levee is blown - a decision on timing (if at all) will be made by the Army Corps this weekend.



Hell of a fine science, experiment, I'd say. Can the weight of water outside of traditional courses create a quake? We may get to find out. Why, I'd even be looking for occult messages in the timing of the explosion, too, as long as we're wandering down conspiracy lane...

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Speaking of quakes, a 6.0 off the west coast of Panama this morning.

Oh, and some huge magnetometer shifts off the HAARP site, so when we see this kind of deflection, the quake picture may be about to get serious.
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The deflection this morning was showing more than -500 nT. The deflection around the 3/11/2011 Japanese earthquake was smaller (about -440 NT) in advance of the quake.

Hang On!

[eyeno]

Reading about New Madrid I have come across the number 1100 three times.

At a community meeting in Guy, Arkansas, over one hundred residents learned that fracking has caused over 1100 manmade earthquakes in that state alone in the past twelve months.

http://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in ... -and-water

The demolition was expected to cover about 11,000 feet of the levee.

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/me ... r-20110502


And one other instance related to this New Madrid business but I can't remember what it was.
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And they are talking about blowing up levees all the way down to near New Orleans, not just one small levee at Cairo. This is a big story. Obviously people know there may be serious problems out of this and so far barely a whisper from the media.

Maj. Gen. Michael Walsh -- the man ultimately responsible for the decision to go through with the plan-- has indicated that he may not stop there if blasting open the Missouri levee does not do the trick. In recent days, Walsh has said he might also make use of other downstream "floodways" -- basins surrounded by levees that can intentionally be blown open to divert floodwaters.

Among those that could be tapped are the 58-year-old Morganza floodway near Morgan City, La., and the Bonnet Carre floodway about 30 miles north of New Orleans. The Morganza has been pressed into service just once, in 1973. The Bonnet Carre, which was christened in 1932 has been opened up nine times since 1937, the most recent in 2008.

"Making this decision is not easy or hard," Walsh said. "It's simply grave -- because the decision leads to loss of property and livelihood, either in a floodway or in an area that was not designed to flood."

Officials in Louisiana and Mississippi are warning that the river could bring a surge of water unseen since the Great Mississippi Flood of 1927.

The corps has said about 241 miles of levees along the Mississippi River between Cape Girardeau, Mo., and the Gulf of Mexico need to be made taller or strengthened.

George Sills, a former Army Corps engineer and levee expert in Vicksburg, Miss., said the volume of water moving down the river would test the levee system south of Memphis into Louisiana.

"It's been a long time since we've seen a major flood down the Mississippi River," Sills said. "This is the highest river in Vicksburg, Miss., since 1927. There will be water coming by here that most people have never seen in their lifetime."

He said the Army Corps has warned residents that waters levels in Eagle Lake, an oxbow lake of the Mississippi River, will rise exceptionally high, and that could stress a federal levee with a history of problems.

"They're taking some extreme measures to save it," he said.

But few measures could be as drastic as the one at Birds Point.

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/me ... r-20110502

[seemslikeadream]

Army Corps starts to blow up levee to flood 130,000 acres in Missouri
By the CNN Wire Staff
May 3, 2011 4:24 a.m. EDT

Army Corps blasts levee to save town


NEW: First phase to breech the levee with explosives is successful, officer says
The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers begins intentionally breaching the levee
Water levels near Cairo, Illinois, reach 61.4 feet -- far above the 40-foot flood stage
Missouri had tried to block the decision, which will flood productive farmland

(CNN) -- The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers installed more explosives early Tuesday that it will use to breach the Birds Point-New Madrid levee and divert floodwaters at the confluence of the Ohio and Mississippi rivers onto Missouri farmland.

Col. Vernie Reichling, commander of the Army Corps Memphis District, told reporters that the first phase of the project had been carried out successfully around midnight and that the process of laying down additional explosives and detonating them on the southern side of the levee would continue through the early morning hours.

The blasts, near the southern border between Missouri and Illinois, are part of a three-stage process to intentionally breach the levee -- and, in the process, pave the way for tons of water to flood 130,000 acres of Missouri farmland -- to alleviate pressure caused by historically high water levels in the rivers.

Reichling called the amount of flooding "historic as well as tragic."
Army Corps opts to blow up levee
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At 11 p.m. Monday, the water level outside Cairo, Illinois, was 61.3 feet -- well above the flood stage of 40 feet -- according to the National Weather Service. The river is forecast to crest at 61.8 feet Tuesday morning.

Maj. Gen. Michael Walsh ordered the intentional breach.

"(The system) continues to be under enormous and unprecedented pressure," said Walsh, the president of the Mississippi River Commission. "Because of that ... I've ordered the district commander to operate the project."

Walsh said that historic and still-rising flood waters made it imperative to begin the explosive operation as soon as possible. The multistage process is expected to continue through Tuesday.

Missouri Attorney General Chris Koster's office tried to block the move, challenging the Corps' authority to breach the levee. But the U.S. Supreme Court, in a ruling from Justice Samuel Alito, denied Missouri's bid.

On Monday, Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon and Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn said they had met with Walsh in Cairo earlier in the day to talk about the attempt "to relieve pressure on other parts of the levee system and save lives," according to a news release from Nixon's office.

The governors said authorities in both states are prepared for the blast and subsequent flooding, according to prepared statements.

"I urge Missourians to continue to cooperate fully with state, county and local law enforcement, as they have at every stage of this process," Nixon said. "Together, we will ensure that Missouri families stay safe in the coming days. And together, we will recover and rebuild."

A statement released by Quinn's office called the decision to breach the levee "an important step to ensure public safety as we respond to this crisis."

While in Cairo, Quinn announced that as many as 450 National Guard servicemembers had been called into areas of the state affected by flooding.

Without an intentional breach, authorities had warned of massive flooding that could wipe out Cairo. Already, Cairo's mayor ordered the city's 2,800 residents to evacuate.

Walsh acknowledged the human dimension of his plan, which has irked many in Missouri, where hundreds more have been evacuated.

Nixon has estimated that it will take tens, if not hundreds, of millions of dollars to recover property and rebuild lives as the water rushes through the floodway, including washing out farmland he described as "literally the most productive part of our continent."

"It's a heart-wrenching story," Walsh said. "It takes a long time to recover from something like this."

He said the fate of Cairo was just one of many factors in his decision, saying he hoped the move would alleviate issues throughout the Mississippi River system. Water levels and flooding have hit record highs in many spots, putting severe strains on systems meant to prevent uncontrolled floods and the resulting loss of life and property.

With rain continuing to fall and water levels continuing to rise, Walsh said the situation would only get worse without drastic action.

"Nobody has seen this type of water in the system," he said. "This is unprecedented."

And he did not rule out similar moves elsewhere, including possibly more purposeful explosions at other levees along the Mississippi and its tributaries.

The area, in Missouri's so-called "Bootheel," is one of four floodways along the system that could be opened up. Walsh said he expected the Birds Point-New Madrid levee breach will cause river crests to drop three to four feet "for a few days," even as he voiced concerns that water levels could very well rise again.

"This doesn't end this historic flood," said Walsh. "This is not going to be over when we operate this."

[wintler2]

Corps blows up Missouri levee

I blame the tree huggers, they should fix this problem the same way they shoulda fixed the gulf of mexico & fukashima - nuke it.
Seriously tho, hope anyone in the area knows not to rely on authorities for timely information or assistance (google 'toowoomba flood inquest' if complacent). Don't drive thru floodwaters unless a. you know how deep it is & b. you know your cars air intake is higher.

[eyeno]

NEW ORLEANS — A surge of water not seen since the Great Mississippi Flood of 1927 is forecast in coming days to test the enormous levees lining the Mississippi River on its course through the Deep South, adding another element of danger to a region already raked by deadly tornadoes and thunderstorms.

Mississippi’s and Louisiana’s governors issued flood warnings Thursday and declared states of emergency. Authorities along the swollen waterway in both states are warning nearby residents to brace for the possibility of any flooding. River boat casinos in Mississippi are closing and levee managers are readying sand bags and supplies — and the manpower to build the defenses — to fight the rising river along hundreds of levees in both states where the river crosses en route to the Gulf of Mexico.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/ ... story.html

[eyeno]

Unprecedented flooding on Ohio River
Last week's storm system, in combination with heavy rains earlier this month and over past 24 hours, pushed the Ohio River at Cairo, Illinois to 60.6 feet at 1am CDT May 1. This is the highest flood in history, besting the 59.5' mark of 1937. Additional heavy rains of 2 - 4 inches are expected over the next five days, and the river is not expected to crest until Wednesday, at a height of 61.5 feet. As the record flood waters from the Ohio River pour into the Mississippi and are joined by melt water from the this winter's record snow pack over the Upper Mississippi, all-time flood heights are likely to be exceeded at many points along a 400-mile stretch of the Mississippi below its confluence with the Ohio. I'll have a more detailed look in my next post.

Jeff Masters

http://i.wund.com/auto/iphone/blog/Jeff ... /show.html

[seemslikeadream]

how nice, wake up with a question and there's the answer, historical floods

Take a quick glance and see if you can use this.
A little frightening to say the least what you can actually find out about floods / quakes being related. Especially considering what technology was back then, and or the lack there of !!

1927 Flood "As the flood approached New Orleans, LA, about 30 tons of dynamite were set off on the levee at Caernav, LA. "

"Another earthquake in the Mississippi Valley region caused damage in Tennessee and Arkansas on May 7, 1927. It was strongest at Jonesboro, Arkansas, where some chimneys fell (VII). However, the felt area indicated that the epicenter was farther to the east, in Tennessee. Damage there was limited to the shattering of window panes and breaking of dishes in the Memphis area. Many people were awakened by the early morning (2:28 AM) rapid rocking motion; in addition, surface and subterranean sounds were heard. The shock was also felt in parts of Alabama, Illinois, Kentucky, Mississippi, and Missouri, an area of about 337,000 square kilometers. "

1811 - Floods in June - Quake in December[/size]- Flooding preceded the 1811 New Madrid Quake."

Welcome to my mat. The first case referenced (1927) is especially interesting since it raided a lot first ("On April 15, 1927 15 inches (380 mm) of rain fell in 18 hours.") and then it shook (May 7, 1927).



Although we're now in a period right after three major magnetometer excursions (around 11:00 UTC on 4/30, 13:00 UTC on 5/1, and10:00 UTC on 5/2) it's not necessarily meaningful, unless of course, a quake occurs.

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All of which brings us to a rather interesting coincidence, since FEMA is now in the early goings of their National Level Exercise in the [rain soaked, at risk anyway] region.

"NLE 2011 will simulate the catastrophic nature of a major earthquake in the central United States region of the New Madrid Seismic Zone (NMSZ). The year 2011 is the bicentennial anniversary of the 1811 New Madrid earthquake, for which the NMSZ is named. NLE 2011 will be the first NLE to simulate a natural hazard.

NLE 2011 activities will take place at command posts, emergency operation centers and other locations to include federal facilities in the Washington D.C. area and federal, regional, state, tribal, local and private sector facilities in the eight member states of the Central United States Earthquake Consortium (CUSEC). The eight member states of CUSEC encompass four different FEMA regions: Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi, and Tennessee (FEMA Region IV); Illinois and Indiana (FEMA Region V); Arkansas (FEMA Region VI); and Missouri (FEMA Region VII). "

The training exercise itself if very good - I mean here we have a fine example of government proactively getting ready for a "just-in-case". But there may be a lot more too it!

[2012 Countdown]

Video clip of levee being blown up!-

Army Corps breaks southeast Missouri levee
Posted on May 3, 2011 at 8:30 AM

Jim Suhr and Jim Salter / The Associated Press

WYATT, Mo. (AP) -- The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers exploded a large section of a Mississippi River levee Monday in a desperate attempt to protect an Illinois town from rising floodwaters.

The corps said the break in the Birds Point levee would help tiny Cairo, Ill., by diverting up to 4 feet of water off the river. Just before Monday night's explosions, river levels at Cairo were at historic highs and creating pressure on the floodwall protecting the town.

For the Missouri side, the blasts were likely unleashing a muddy torrent into empty farm fields and around evacuated homes in Mississippi County.

Brief but bright orange flashes could be seen above the river as the explosions went off just after 10 p.m. The blasts lasted only about two seconds. Darkness kept reporters, who were more than a half mile off the river, from seeing how fast the water was moving into the farmland.

Engineers carried out the blast after spending hours pumping liquid explosives into the levee. More explosions were planned for overnight and midday Tuesday, though most of the damage was expected to be done by the first blast.

But questions remain about whether breaking open the levee would provide the relief needed, and how much water the blast would divert from the Mississippi River as more rain was forecast to fall on the region Tuesday. The seemingly endless rain has overwhelmed rivers and strained levees, including the one protecting Cairo, at the confluence of the Ohio and Mississippi rivers.


http://www.wwltv.com/news/national/Army ... 51324.html


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Slight concern way down here (La). Baton Rouge is sort of touchy and at flood stage. Here in New Orleans, the river is going to crest in the next two weeks. They are opening up the spillway though, and it should be good enough-

Bonnet Carre Spillway likely to open, State Of Emergency declared
Paul Murphy / Eyewitness News

BATONR ROUGE, LA - The Army Corps of Engineers is preparing to open the Bonnet Carre spillway upriver, to take some of the pressure off of metro area levees.

Governor Bobby Jindal has declared a state of emergency due to the threat of flooding along the Mississippi.

The river is expected to crest at about flood stage in New Orleans in the coming weeks.

Authorities also stepped up surveillance of local levees as the water is already above flood stage in some spots north of the city.

"This is going to be a slow moving crest and we're likely to see elevated river levels for at least a few days," said Jindal.

Flood stage in New Orleans is 17 feet, but the levees and floodwalls can protect the city up to 20 feet..

http://www.wwltv.com/news/local/Bonnet- ... 10359.html

[Canadian_watcher]

after the Army Corps of Engineers blew over 5500 feet of the levee

[anothershamus]

Wow that is one hellofalotofwater!

[tru3magic]

Wait....are those houses in the middle of all that water??? WTF!! where were these people told to go?

[Canadian_watcher]

it's really very sad.

here's a facebook group about it: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Birds-Point-New-Madrid-Floodway-Joint-Information-Center/120898681323357