Correlation does not imply causation

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Correlation does not imply causation

Postby gnosticheresy_2 » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:48 am

Dr John Dee's astrological hieroglyph

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The 2012 Olympic mascots

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Dee's mission, said the historian, was to find a unifying principle, a theory of everything which united ideas of Arabic algebra - infusing into Europe from the Muslim conquest of Spain - as well as astrology, mysticism and the wisdom of ancient traditions being unearthed by Renaissance scholars.
His belief was that a universal language could be found, the language of God and the builders of the Tower of Babel, "a language that would embody the truth of the Universe", Mr Woolley said.
He designed a hieroglyph, the Monas Hieroglyphica, which embodied this unifying principle - the astrological symbols united in one form.
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Re: Correlation does not imply causation

Postby Occult Means Hidden » Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:15 am

Fascinating, gnostic. I have something to think over. That is, Dee's place in the 2012 world ritual and the meaning behind the idea of unification on the world stage.

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Re: Correlation does not imply causation

Postby Sweet Tooth » Mon May 07, 2012 3:11 am

Check out Theorem X at the link below from Dee's MONAS HIEROGLYPHICA...

http://www.esotericarchives.com/dee/monad.htm#theorem10

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Re: Correlation does not imply causation

Postby elfismiles » Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:59 am

2012 Olympic Monas Hieroglyphica:

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Correlation does not imply causation
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The 2012 London Olympic mascots
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/ ... =8&t=34567

Olympic mascot John Dee occult link
http://www.spookyisles.com/2012/04/olym ... cult-link/

Wenlock And John Dee
http://merovee.wordpress.com/2012/04/19 ... -john-dee/


SEE ALSO:

RI meetup in RI?
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/ ... =8&t=34418

Newport Tower Museum – Jim Egan on John Dee’s Camera Obscura / Horologium
http://www.newporttowermuseum.com

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Re: Correlation does not imply causation

Postby kelley » Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:21 am

i suppose the einsturzende neubaten pictogram belongs here somehwere. it is described as a neolithic or possibly toltec drawing.
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Re: Correlation does not imply causation

Postby elfismiles » Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:40 am

kelley wrote:i suppose the einsturzende neubaten pictogram belongs here somehwere. it is described as a neolithic or possibly toltec drawing.



WHOA Kelley!!! Thanks for stating that ... I had moments ago come across a picture I took of a symbol I thought was similar to the monas and then read your response, googled it, and VOILA! ... you named the symbol I was trying to identify:

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[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstürzende_Neubauten[/url]

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Main article: Einstürzende Neubauten logo

The band logo, based from a Toltec petroglyph cave drawing.The Einstürzende Neubauten's logo can be described as a human symbol with two arms, two legs (one much shorter than another), thin body and big round head with a circle in its middle. It was not created by or for the band, but is a cave drawing of probably Toltec origin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einst%C3%B ... auten_logo

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Re: Correlation does not imply causation

Postby kelley » Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:06 am

very good :thumbsup
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Re: Correlation does not imply causation

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:05 pm

For the record, if you actually encounter one of these things, don't move at all and don't try to understand what you're seeing. I wouldn't call them malevolent but they're definitely not particularly interested, either.
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Re: Correlation does not imply causation

Postby elfismiles » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:22 pm

Wombaticus Rex wrote:For the record, if you actually encounter one of these things, don't move at all and don't try to understand what you're seeing. I wouldn't call them malevolent but they're definitely not particularly interested, either.


Wombat, r u equating these critters with McKenna's hyperspace elves?
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Re: Correlation does not imply causation

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:32 pm

No, those are hallucinations. Whatever John Dee was up to, it wasn't a taxonomy of hallucinations.
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Re: Correlation does not imply causation

Postby norton ash » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:49 pm

Why aren't the press interviewing Dr. Dee himself about this?
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Re: Correlation does not imply causation

Postby elfismiles » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:49 pm

Wombaticus Rex wrote:No, those are hallucinations. Whatever John Dee was up to, it wasn't a taxonomy of hallucinations.


I'm not really familiar with Dee's monas material so perhaps you or someone versed in it can address Jim Egan's theories about that famous text being an encoding for the building of a ... Camera Obscura / Horologium:

Newport Tower Museum – Jim Egan on John Dee’s Camera Obscura / Horologium
http://www.newporttowermuseum.com

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Re: Correlation does not imply causation

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:59 pm

I think that's a bit like saying the mathematical insights of Flatland were just there to encode a children's book. I think Egan is both stretching and mistaking Optimus Prime for a big red truck, you know? Monas is part of, and coherent with, a larger body of work, much of which is equally byzantine shit.

The "hallucinations" line was written with this James Kent piece in mind: http://tripzine.com/pit/chapters/The%20 ... Action.htm

His case is compelling but not, of course, conclusive. Still, I am impressed by the fact that regardless of the "entity" status of what people see under the effects of dreamtime, we have a documented history where multiple people on no drugs whatsoever encounter equally miraculous "entity"-like phenomena in the flesh. Tulpas or trans-dimensional whatever, that's still a whole different level of Otherness.

You know, to me.
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Re: Correlation does not imply causation

Postby elfismiles » Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:07 pm

Wombaticus Rex wrote:I think that's a bit like saying the mathematical insights of Flatland were just there to encode a children's book. I think Egan is both stretching and mistaking Optimus Prime for a big red truck, you know? Monas is part of, and coherent with, a larger body of work, much of which is equally byzantine shit.

The "hallucinations" line was written with this James Kent piece in mind: http://tripzine.com/pit/chapters/The%20 ... Action.htm

His case is compelling but not, of course, conclusive. Still, I am impressed by the fact that regardless of the "entity" status of what people see under the effects of dreamtime, we have a documented history where multiple people on no drugs whatsoever encounter equally miraculous "entity"-like phenomena in the flesh. Tulpas or trans-dimensional whatever, that's still a whole different level of Otherness.

You know, to me.


I don't follow ... and I just hallucinated that after a certain point in the text on that link you gave the english went all chinese on me... for the entire remaining page...


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... then I reloaded and it was fine.

Well anyway ... lots of homework for me to do on this topic.
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Re: Correlation does not imply causation

Postby sergeant stiletto » Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:52 pm

norton ash wrote:Why aren't the press interviewing Dr. Dee himself about this?


lolwut!?
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