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brainpanhandler wrote:2012 Countdown wrote:I'm serious. I really think if Jones did some LSD, he'd benefit greatly.
So does that mean you think he doesn't have the intelligence to intergrate the insights? Cos seriously, I really think he doesn't. Not only that, I'm wondering if you've ever had a bad trip. We bring what we are to that experience. While it's true that a bad trip can be beneficial, for the uninitiated and/or radically unself-aware it's generally not.
American Dream wrote:It's certainly been said before here but it certainly deserves mention again:In the face of courageous proletarian mass-uprisings in ‘05, Jones penned a piece entitled French Riots: Plan Engineered by Globalists[4], a racist tirade which claimed that “the mainly Algerian Muslims causing the chaos hate the country that has afforded them a greater living standard than their birthplace ever could”, and that “the melting pot of multiculturalism does not work, it has never worked and it was never intended to work. ..
Canadian Wtcher wrote:Spend more time with metaphysics and spirituality - especially consciousness. Do that, then come back and tell me that we aren't talking about a cosmic good vs evil battle here, with all the fantasical mind-bending that entails.
8bitagent wrote:LOL! What mid 80's looking movie is that from?
wintler2 wrote:Canadian Wtcher wrote:Spend more time with metaphysics and spirituality - especially consciousness. Do that, then come back and tell me that we aren't talking about a cosmic good vs evil battle here, with all the fantasical mind-bending that entails.
We aren't talking about a cosmic good vs. evil battle here.
wintler2 wrote:Its all happening right here, right now, and no angelic intercession, Area 51 codes or superpowers are required to participate.
"Those who would believe absurdities would commit atrocities."
canadian_watcher wrote:If AJ and Icke are searching in directions that make you uncomfortable, well, perhaps you ought to look the roots of your discomfort rather than writing them off.
Canadian_watcher wrote:yeah, it's happening here and now. does that somehow prove something about motivation? Do you know much about the subjects I brought up? What are your thoughts on them?
Canadian_watcher wrote:As to your quote - it is meaningless. What is an absurdity to you might not be one to me. You are not more qualified to make that decision than I am.
CW wrote:..people who do not accept any sort of faith in their lives (not RELIGION, but FAITH) will never be able to realize the truth as I and others see it. ..
Canadian_watcher wrote:This is not a battle for control of resources based on the 3D plane.
brainpanhandler wrote:canadian_watcher wrote:If AJ and Icke are searching in directions that make you uncomfortable, well, perhaps you ought to look the roots of your discomfort rather than writing them off.
Ok, but compare and contrast Jeff Wells with Icke or AJ. Am I a snob to prefer Jeff to Icke or AJ? And I don't think the differences are just stylistic, although that's no trivial matter. That's what I don't understand sometimes when people on the RI message board insist I should be willing to sift through Icke and AJ for the nuggets or I'm being close minded. When you've had Jeff you're sort of reluctant to trade so far down.
I agree there's more going on than just greed or a lust for power. And I actually agree with AJ when he says it doesn't really matter whether the elves are real or not or whether it's true that they are actually conversing with discarnate beings of some form or another, whether they interdimensional elves or aliens or demons or whatever. It's still noteworthy that they believe it.
Kubrick fucking knew something when he made Eyes Wide Shut. He did. And he wanted us to know it.
wintler2 wrote:Canadian_watcher wrote:yeah, it's happening here and now. does that somehow prove something about motivation? Do you know much about the subjects I brought up? What are your thoughts on them?
Do you mean metaphysics, conciousness and spirituality? You want me to provide my thoughts on all three, together, here now? Sounds like an invitation to a pissing match, thanks but no thanks, i'd rather talk about what an evil turd Alex Jones is. How about you, any problem with AJs racism?Canadian_watcher wrote:As to your quote - it is meaningless. What is an absurdity to you might not be one to me. You are not more qualified to make that decision than I am.
Yes i am, for me, as you are amply qualified to decide for you. And while we can never decide for each other, we can do this groovy thing known as swapping evidence (however this is typically where dialogue with faith-based thunkers ends).
Whatever, it seems you'd agree that my unevidenced declarative statements carry no more weight than yours? Good, you'll be withdrawing your claim to secret knowledge then ..CW wrote:..people who do not accept any sort of faith in their lives (not RELIGION, but FAITH) will never be able to realize the truth as I and others see it. ..Canadian_watcher wrote:This is not a battle for control of resources based on the 3D plane.
I can have yours then?
2012 Countdown wrote:I will not entertain Icke, ...
Canadian_watcher wrote:yeah, see, you're very entrenched in your prejudices so I don't really want to waste my time.
Canadian_watcher wrote:I can tell this by your calling me 'faith based' (never mind the thunkers word, faith-based is enough).
I'm not okay with racism just as I'm not okay with whatever it is you want to call it when you dismiss me for what I am.
..people who do not accept any sort of faith in their lives (not RELIGION, but FAITH) will never be able to realize the truth as I and others see it. ..
8bitagent wrote:Now I can list a hundred things I take issue with on AJ, but I think when it comes to war/terrorism/esoteric elite agenda I think he's spot on.
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