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by justdrew » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:58 am
by Wombaticus Rex » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:12 pm
by elfismiles » Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:08 am
Wombaticus Rex wrote:Oh good, we're doing this John Lear shit over again from the start...
by elfismiles » Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:40 pm
by Wombaticus Rex » Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:45 pm
Room 3603, H. Mongomery Hyde. What a find this was....hot damn. I expected some interesting spycraft -- being something of a sucker for the subject -- and wound up with a gloating history of how British intelligence ran a carefully orchestrated operation to ensure the United States entered World War Two as soon as possible. The architect was the young whippersnapper you see above: one William Stephenson, who operated out of a room in Rockefeller Center. Having seen this precise scenario dismissed as John Bircher paranoia in the past, this came as quite a surprise. The book is stunningly glib about what amounts to a massive betrayal of the American people and I highly recommend it.
by elfismiles » Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:51 pm
Wombaticus Rex » 15 Jul 2014 17:45 wrote:Also recommend....Room 3603, H. Mongomery Hyde. What a find this was....hot damn. I expected some interesting spycraft -- being something of a sucker for the subject -- and wound up with a gloating history of how British intelligence ran a carefully orchestrated operation to ensure the United States entered World War Two as soon as possible. The architect was the young whippersnapper you see above: one William Stephenson, who operated out of a room in Rockefeller Center. Having seen this precise scenario dismissed as John Bircher paranoia in the past, this came as quite a surprise. The book is stunningly glib about what amounts to a massive betrayal of the American people and I highly recommend it.
by ShinShinKid » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:35 pm
by Elvis » Wed Jul 16, 2014 5:59 am
Wombaticus Rex » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:45 am wrote:Also recommend....Room 3603, H. Mongomery Hyde. What a find this was....hot damn. I expected some interesting spycraft -- being something of a sucker for the subject -- and wound up with a gloating history of how British intelligence ran a carefully orchestrated operation to ensure the United States entered World War Two as soon as possible. The architect was the young whippersnapper you see above: one William Stephenson, who operated out of a room in Rockefeller Center. Having seen this precise scenario dismissed as John Bircher paranoia in the past, this came as quite a surprise. The book is stunningly glib about what amounts to a massive betrayal of the American people and I highly recommend it.
Secret intelligence agent
He joined the British Army Intelligence Corps in 1939 serving as an Assistant Censor in Gibraltar in 1940. He was then commissioned in the intelligence corps (MI6) and engaged in counter-espionage work in the United States under Sir William Stephenson, the Director of British Security Coordination in the Western Hemisphere. Hyde was also Military Liaison and Security Officer, Bermuda, from 1940 to 1941 and Assistant Passport Control Officer in New York from 1941 to 1942. He was with British Army Staff, USA from 1942 to 1944, attached to the Supreme HQ Allied Expeditionary Force in 1944, and then seconded to the Allied Control Commission for Austria until 1945 as a legal officer. He continued writing and publishing during the war and would be addressed as "Lt. Col. Hyde" throughout most of his parliamentary career. He would continue to cover the topic of espionage in his writings.[1] In 1982 he wrote the book, Secret Intelligence Agent describing his war experiences.[2]
After the war, he became assistant editor of the Law Reports until 1947 and was legal adviser to the British Lion Film Corporation, then managed by Alexander Korda, up to 1949; in 1948 he published The Trials of Oscar Wilde, a precursor of three more books about the playwright.
by elfismiles » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:47 pm
Friday, July 18, 2014
UFOs, Project Pandora, MJ12
This is very interesting...
Over at the Department of Defense's website you can find a document that has been declassified via the Freedom of Information Act on the subject of Project Pandora (which, in part, was focused on how microwaves can affect the mind and nervous-system).
It's a fascinating file that dates back to the 1960s.
It's a lengthy file, too: it runs to 469 pages.
But, here's the weird thing...
If you scroll down to page 449, you'll see that it contains a copy of the controversial "MJ12/Eisenhower Briefing Document" on the Roswell affair of 1947!
Of course, as most people within Ufology know, the document is one that has been the subject of much debate regarding its authenticity or otherwise.
Indeed, the copy of the EBD in the Pandora file has a hand-written note on it stating that, "This cannot be authenticated as an official DoD document."
Well, that's fair enough, and something that most people within Ufology would agree with - it has not been authenticated.
But, here's the issue: what is a copy of the EBD doing in a DoD file on Project Pandora...?
Posted by Nick Redfern at 7:42 AM
http://nickredfernfortean.blogspot.com/ ... -mj12.html
by elfismiles » Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:01 pm
Published on Oct 10, 2013
The acceleration of technology in an increasingly connected society producing "impossible futures" that range from rapid collapse of major banks to the emergence of complex new forms of political power. The Internet has become both a tool and a victim of this global mutation.
...
In the video 'The Age of the Impossible: Anticipating Discontinuous Futures', at the 10 minute mark he starts discussing "participatory dictatorship":
Another scenario that I think is something we should all be concerned with is what somebody has called "participatory dictatorship". Amir Weiner is a professor at Stanford - I attended a lecture by him. He brought to Stanford copies of the archives of the KGB - from Latvia to Romania and Bulgaria - and he's been studying that at Stanford University. Looking at the way in which essentially the Soviet Union took over the satellites at the end of World War II. The main lesson that comes out of studying the archives of the KGB in all those countries is that even though they did not know the countries and they did not know the languages, they were able to take over in two months. They took over by coming in with a stack of index cards where they had plotted all of the important people in the society. They knew already who were the anti-Communist activists, they knew what the different political parties were doing. They brought in these people, they interrogated them. They executed some of the people that they felt were not conducive to their taking over the power. Then they created different groups and then within these groups they started arresting people at random, bringing them to the headquarters of the KGB in all these countries. And they had one question for them: "Who do you know"? Who do you talk to and what do you talk about?
If somebody wanted to do that today - in Asia, in North America, in Europe - they would not need to arrest people, all they would need to do was look at Facebook, Twitter, Google, [Above Top Secret]. We give this information every day to the network and to the superstructure above the internet, above the web. This is something that we should be conscious of. I love the previous speaker talking about corporative information - the new sources of information within a network. But that network also contains a threat to our privacy, a threat between the connections between us because that information is now easily invadable. It's not one "Big Brother", it's a community of Big Brothers who know who we know."
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread994659/pg108
by tazmic » Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:52 am
by Wombaticus Rex » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:22 pm
The believers in the null hypothesis don’t have much reason to cheer, even though they turned out to be right about that one point. The disclosures have shown with uncomfortable clarity that a good many of the explanations offered by UFO skeptics were actually nonsense, just as their opponents had been pointing out all along. In 1981, for example, Philip Klass, James Oberg, and Robert Sheaffer claimed that they’d identified all the cases that Project Blue Book labeled as “unknown.” As it happens, they did nothing of the kind; what they actually did was offer untested ad hoc hypotheses to explain away the unknowns, which is not exactly the same thing. It hardly needs to be said that CIA spyplanes played no part in those explanations, and if the “unknown” cases contained the same proportion of spyplanes as the whole collection, as seems likely, roughly half their explanations are wrong—a point that doesn’t exactly do much to inspire confidence in other claims made on behalf of the debunking crusade.
So it’s not surprising that neither side in the controversy has had the least interest in letting all this new data get in the way of keeping up the old argument. The usual human reaction to cognitive dissonance is to exclude the information that’s causing the dissonance, and that’s precisely what both sides, by and large, have done. As the dissonance builds, to be sure, people on the fringes of both scenes will quiely take their leave, new recruits will become few and far between, and eventually surviving communities of believers and debunkers alike will settle into a common pattern familiar to any of my readers familiar with Spiritualist churches, Marxist parties, or the flotsam left behind by the receding tide of other once-influential movements in American society: little circles of true believers fixated on the disputes of an earlier day, hermetically sealed against the disdain and disinterest of the wider society.
They have the freedom to do that, because the presence or absence of alien saucers in Earth’s skies simply doesn’t have that much of an impact on everyday life. Like Spiritualists or Marxists, believers in alien contact and their debunking foes by and large can avoid paying more than the most cursory attention to the failure of their respective crusades. The believers can take comfort in the fact that even in the presence of overwhelming evidence, it’s notoriously hard to prove a negative; the debunkers can take comfort in the fact that, however embarrassing their logical lapses and rhetorical excesses, at least they were right about the origins of the phenomenon.
by elfismiles » Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:15 pm
Curt Collins wrote:
Mark Rodeghier interviewing Project Blue Book's head during the U-2 development: "I read to him the discussion by Haines reproduced above and then asked for his comment. Almost the first words he said were that it is "absolutely not true" that he or his Blue Book team were covering up spy flights as alleged by Haines. He found the whole idea laughable, and he knew Blue Book did not receive more reports from pilots and air traffic controllers after the U-2 began flying." http://www.cufos.org/IUR_article3.html
https://www.facebook.com/groups/ufoupda ... omments=13
Curt Collins wrote:
Shadow Flights by Curtis Peebles. "The exact number of flying saucer sightings caused by U-2s is unknown. Many years later, Cunningham made an off-the-cuff comment: 'Hell, they were half of them.' This referred to the reports that Blue Book sent to the project staff as possible U-2 sightings rather than the more than 13000 total sightings reported."
Page 102 http://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Flights-Am ... 008SLEY82/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/ufoupda ... omments=13
by 82_28 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:12 am
by elfismiles » Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:27 pm
82_28 » 22 Jul 2014 10:12 wrote:I just saw a slow moving UFO. I watched it for quite some time. Given the time of night it was not a satellite or a plane with sunlight glancing off of it. Watched it for as long as I could.
Consider it unidentified. Flight patterns are pretty much set in stone up here. This was different. It was orange and I took the fires nearby into account for the hue. However the smoke from the fires are not affecting this side of the Cascades. Hmmm.
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