Where is UFOlogy at in 2015?

[operator kos]

just got this e-mail:

Seminar at Sea - April 7-12
From: New Life Cruise

You are invited to join Stephen Bassett and 20+ other speakers on the NEWLIFE 2014 Holistic "Cruise to Enlightenment" and Seminar-at-Sea. It will take place April 7 to 12, 2014 on the Royal Caribbean Liberty of the Seas, sailing from Ft. Lauderdale, FL to the Western Caribbean.

The event website is: www.newlifecruise.com

Should you decide to join us in April, please be sure to enter Stephen Bassett, as the "Referral" when registering at:
https://www.spiritualityproducts.com/se ... ister.html

Join with like-minded souls in the experience of a lifetime! The NewLife 2014 Cruise to Enlightenment and Seminar-at-Sea takes place right on our newly-renovated luxury cruise ship during our five-day cruise, in conference rooms on the ship, and during our port calls in the Western Caribbean.

Join us on a spectacular cruise and seminar-at-sea as we sail from Ft. Lauderdale to the magnificent sun-kissed beaches of Labadee Peninsula paradise private resort and laid-back tropical island of Jamaica.
Be a part of a NEWLIFE Seminar at Sea, with speakers, readers, healers, and exhibitors.
Enjoy 5 days of bliss, as we sail into higher consciousness in 2014.??
Practice yoga, enjoy veg, non-veg, or raw food, and participate in awesome spiritual workshops and activities.
View the starlit Caribbean sky with a nightly UFO Starwatch.
You will make new friends, gain greater wisdom, and create memories that will last a lifetime.

What is Included?

Seminar-At-Sea with Renowned Speakers
Yoga Instruction with an Expert Teacher
Awesome Readers, Healers, and Vendors
Royal Caribbean's amazing ship and service
Some of the most beautiful staterooms at sea
Delicious dining, including 24-hr room service
Incredible onboard entertainment
Fun-filled youth programs
Broadway stage shows
Ice-skating shows with pro athlete
The most beautiful tropical paradise destinations
Much, much more?

To which I replied:

In a single day, the federal Environmental Protection Agency estimates passengers aboard a typical cruise ship will generate:

21,000 gallons of sewage
One ton of garbage
170,000 gallons of wastewater from sinks, showers and laundry
More than 25 pounds of batteries, fluorescent lights, medical wastes and expired chemicals
Up to 6,400 gallons of oily bilge water from engines
Four plastic bottles per passenger - about 8,500 bottles per day for the Carnival Spirit

Cruise ships incinerate between 75% and 85% of garbage according to the EPA in its 2008 study, contributing to smog in coastal communities and on the ocean. They also release incinerator ash and sewage sludge -- blobs of concentrated toxins from the bottom of waste treatment facilities -- into the ocean. They contribute nutrients, metals, ammonia, pharmaceutical waste, chemical cleaners and detergent to deep marine environments from sewage treatment systems that either don't work as planned or aren't able to remove such substances, according to tests in Washington and Alaska, interviews with state officials, the EPA study, and information provided by the Olympic Coast National Marine Sanctuary. It's legal to discharge untreated sewage in most areas of the United States farther than three miles from shore.
Cruise ships burn fuel, much of it a cheap grade, which will continue until new international fuel standards take effect in 2012. A 2005 study done by WashPIRG, a public interest advocacy group based in Washington, estimates a 3,000-passenger ship generates the air pollution equivalent of more than 12,000 cars in a single day.
"A lot of them burn what's called bunker-C and it's so dirty and it's so black and it's so awful, they have to heat it until they can get it to the point where they can move it around the pipes. It's like tar," said Elizabeth Gilpin, an air resources associate for the Puget Sound Clean Air Agency.


How enlightened! And anyways, WTF is this crap and what does it have to do with Disclosure (other than how reminiscent it is of the UFO cult Scientology and its notorious Sea Org)?

Okay, maybe a bit dickish of me, but I've been increasingly unimpressed with PRG since those "congressional" hearings (last year?) where they paid a handful of hazbin pols to sit in on their conference in an utterly misguided attempt to lend some credibility to the proceedings. Now I don't mind that Stephen Bassett is a true believer, and I genuinely like some of the speeches he's given and things he's written over the years. But this just rubs me as sliding down the slope towards Steven Greer territory.

Maybe I shouldn't even post this.... it's just personality politics. But I felt the need to gripe. Sorry I'm also not contributing to any sort of scientific research at the moment.

[justdrew]

I wonder how Greer's "free energy" program is going? Maybe they need just one more million. Send him a list of dissipated wealthy trust funders ASAP.

[slimmouse]

I wonder how Greer's "free energy" program is going? Maybe they need just one more million. Send him a list of dissipated wealthy trust funders ASAP.

Well woth a mention at this point I guess, for me at least...

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9391&p=92045&hilit=+Craddock+Bearden+Greer#p92045

[operator kos]

Well, here's a development that surprised me. I wasn't really expecting a response to my snippy reply to the mass e-mail about the cruise seminar, but Bassett wrote me back saying that not only had I brought up some good points, but that he was withdrawing from the cruise-ship seminar.

[elfismiles]

Well, here's a development that surprised me. I wasn't really expecting a response to my snippy reply to the mass e-mail about the cruise seminar, but Bassett wrote me back saying that not only had I brought up some good points, but that he was withdrawing from the cruise-ship seminar.

Wow! Thanks for posting your grip and the after-effects.

I wasn't aware of those stats for cruise ships and really appreciated your voicing the worthy criticism.
Kudos OK.

[slimmouse]

Well, here's a development that surprised me. I wasn't really expecting a response to my snippy reply to the mass e-mail about the cruise seminar, but Bassett wrote me back saying that not only had I brought up some good points, but that he was withdrawing from the cruise-ship seminar.

Wow! Thanks for posting your grip and the after-effects.

I wasn't aware of those stats for cruise ships and really appreciated your voicing the worthy criticism.
Kudos OK.

What Miles said.

Nice one OK

[elfismiles]

Emma Woods Reboot!
March 1, 2014 by jayvay

Congratulations to Emma for getting her website back up and better than ever!

It’s uncluttered and very easy to navigate. Who knew this censorship nonsense would be a blessing in disuige? Check it out:

http://ufoalienabductee.com

An Open Letter To Ufology
February 28, 2014 by jayvay
<snip>
As I write this, two whistle blowers are being stalked and harassed over the internet by zealous fans of David Jacobs and Budd Hopkins. They are both women, so naturally they are called hysterical and crazy by sexist pigs who would rather not see their heroes’ reputations tarnished by some anonymous bitch and a vengeful ex wife.

I guess we just need to forget all of the clear, well-presented and damning evidence that the anonymous woman was ever mentally abused and used for a book project and as a pawn in a delusional fantasy by David Jacobs and the fact that his entire –ENTIRE–defense is that she’s crazy because she used to believe the evil alien-hybrid fiction he was prepping her with under hypnosis and now she doesn’t? Overlook all that, do we? And continue to heap abuse after abuse on this woman who has kept her rational calm for years against the raving lunatics who would sooner see her die than help her?

Because why? Because they read his books and liked them? Saw him speak and thought he was a charming professor? You choose liking books about aliens over helping a fellow human being bring the author to some kind of justice? She can’t afford to seek justice through a court. How about excising Jacobs from the “community”? That would do. Never give him another speaking engagement or media platform to speak. That would do. But no. No, he’s the victim because you like his books.

Meanwhile, the other woman hears this woman’s story and actually does want to do the human thing. She wants to make sure this never happens again. So she speaks her truth–backed up with similarly well-presented facts–that her ex husband, the late Budd Hopkins, willingly allowed himself to be taken for a ride by hoaxers and did some pretty awful research, more-so than he ever admitted. And what does she get for her efforts? What does she get for doing the right thing in ufology and exposing the terrible science that effectively came to define abduction research and changed the lives of the subjects involved in his work? She gets censored and harassed and has sexist insults slung at her. For years. By adults.

Oh, she’s the angry ex. Oh, she’s crazy. Oh, this is a woman scorned getting revenge for… we don’t know because we aren’t in their lives, we just like his books and assume she’s out to get him because that’s what we’re told to think by his friends. So let’s try to get her videos banned from youtube and her web presence shut down. Let’s ignore all of the factual evidence presented and make this about personalities. Let’s erase reality.

http://jayvay.wordpress.com/2014/02/28/ ... o-ufology/

[slimmouse]

Heres Richard Dolan being interviewed on MU, talking about his latest book, along with his current take on the entire phenomenon as a whole.

Many of his views strike me as so incredibly lucid, despite never having found the time to read his books.

I readily confess to being extremely impressed by his combination of both rationality and open mindedness. He also sounds very politically savvy. Real rigorous intuition.

I vaguely recall that the interview with Dolan starts about 20 mins in, but can reccommend the entire podcast, since it also makes references to the recent Snowden disclosures regarding the existence of Govnt shills in our general midst.

Heres the link ;

http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2014/02/11-08-mu-podcast/


Just as an aside, I guess we miss WRs ability to update the thread title?

[elfismiles]

MUFON Jumps the Shark
Thursday, March 13, 2014
http://badufos.blogspot.ca/2014/03/mufo ... shark.html

MUFON State Director Claims Malaysia Airline 370 Was Abducted by Extraterrestrials (Audio)
By xzoneradiotv | Posted March 11, 2014 | Hamilton, Ontario
http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1103807

[RocketMan]

FWIW I noticed this clip when it appeared on my news feed via Huffington Post Weird News... But it was seemingly deleted right after from HuffPost.

[Handsome B. Wonderful]

I sometimes wish they would just land on the Whitehouse lawn and reveal themselves to the world, once and for all. But then, how would we know it wasn't a hoax, perpetuated by some CIA black ops?

I wouldn't mind "them" landing, just as long it isn't my backyard. Or not, if they're peaceful.

[operator kos]

UFO Conspiracy Theorist Stan Romanek Says Child Porn Charges Are Gov. Conspiracy

On a sunny day in April 2013, police swarmed a suburban Colorado home to execute a search warrant on suspicion of child pornography. Their suspect, a well-known UFO conspiracy theorist and self-proclaimed alien abductee, walked outside to see investigators approach his house. That's when police say he ran.

Stan Romanek of Loveland has gained a cult-like following for his videos, talks, and supposed proof of extraterrestrial visitations.

While fans heralded his work and critics laughed him off, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and the Loveland Police Department were compiling evidence to arrest the 51-year-old man on child porn charges.

Last month, the Loveland Police Department busted a man who, for decades, had pointed a finger at the government, accusing officials of concealing the truth about UFOs.

A 54-page document obtained by The Huffington Post contains police reports detailing an investigation that dates back to 2008. It also paints a striking narrative of Romanek himself, who adamantly believes that his arrest is part of a conspiracy to silence his work.

'Girls Are Posed In A Seductive Manner'

In 2008, Homeland Security Special Agent Darrel Franklin was working on an investigation into Web users sharing child pornography over peer-to-peer networks like Limewire and Emule. An internet protocol address traced back to Romanek allegedly had child pornography dating from August to December of that year, according to the report.

"Descriptions indicate that there were files that depicted very young girls being sexually assaulted," the report reads.

The following May, the case was passed off to the Loveland Police. Detective Paul Arreola said he was unsure how to proceed because, at the time, his department did not deal in internet crimes.

Two years later, the Loveland Police Cyber Crimes Unit was founded. Arreola wanted to reopen the case, but the information was deemed "too stale," according to the report.

In March 2013, Franklin once again allegedly found pornography on Romanek's computer.

"The pictures contained images of girls that spanned an age range of approximately 5 years old to approximately 12 years old," the report reads. "In each of these photos, the girls are posed in a seductive manner and are exposing their breasts and genitalia. Several of these girls are very young and unmistakably children."

The information was sent to the Loveland Police Department, who were now equipped to act.

Romanek 'Became Very Vocal'

Two weeks later in April 2013, officers from the Greeley, Larimer, and Loveland Police Departments arrived at Romanek's home with a search warrant.

When Romanek saw officers, he allegedly tried running back into his house. Officer Ben DeLima restrained Romanek before he could make it back inside, he said in a report.

As officers rifled through the house, Detective Brian Koopman asked if Romanek would take a walk with him away from the house to speak discreetly, where his wife and daughter would not hear.

"Romanek kept responding to Koopman's requests to talk by telling Koopman that the U.S. Government is conspiring against him," Detective Christopher Kamoske said in his report. "That he did not trust government officials, including the Loveland Police Department."

Romanek "became very vocal," claiming that officers would not find any sort of child pornography on his computer, according to Koopman's report.

When the suspect finally agreed to speak with Koopman, Romanek told the detective he had seen child pornography on his computer, but then deleted it.

"I asked him how long he had it on the computer before deleting it," Koopman said in his report. "After asking him this, he looked frustrated and said, 'I don't know!!!'"

Despite reporting harassment in the past, Romanek allegedly never told police about finding child pornography on his computer. According to the report, when Romanek was asked why he never told officers about it, "He looked at the ground and didn't answer this."

Romanek continued to blame others for putting child pornography on his computer, authorities alleged.

"I told him this was virtually impossible and he did not argue with me," Koopman's report said. "He said he has historically looked at pornography on his computer but tried to stay away from the child pornography."

The suspect said he had important documents that the government knew about.

"[Stan] told me he had had concerns because he had in his possession top secret documents that were given to him by a high ranking official from the Air Force. Stan said he thought that 'someone' in the government would get in trouble for giving him these documents."

Koopman reminded Romanek that officers were here for child pornography, not about "other documents from the Air Force or anything that has to do with aliens, etc."

Romanek returned back to the house where his daughter and his wife, Lisa, waited for him on the back porch.

"Stan shouted to Lisa that this was about child porn," Detective Scott Highland said in his report. "When Lisa heard Stan say this, she laughed and said she knew this was coming."

Days later, investigators said they had found more child porn in Romanek's possession.

The Reports Are 'Lies'

Lisa Romanek told The Huffington Post via email that the police reports are "filled with crap."

"Koopman had filled these reports with lies," she said.

"But no one reporting on this situation seem to care about that...what he is saying Stan and I said...is lies. Why is he lying? More lives are being destroyed with this case by this man. Again I ask, why?"

Koopman's was just one of several police reports that all corroborate each other's findings during the April search warrant.

When asked why authorities would fabricate such charges, Lisa Romanek said she didn't know, but suggested this "may be a veiled threat" and "a message to others" who speak out on UFOs.

"Our computers have been hacked into since 2004," she said. "It's unfortunate that these people can destroy people's lives simply to make a statement."

Lisa Romanek has also been vocal on Facebook, updating her status with articles about conspiracy theories and alleged government hacking. Shortly after her husband's arrest, she went to Facebook for support.

"For those of you who live in fear and function in hate, please just unfriend us both and do not make this terrifying situation any worse with your ignorant threats and ugly statements. We will be taking UFOlogy into the courtroom. We know that this has EVERTING [sic] to do with our being outspoken about the ET/UFO reality."

Stan 'Fears For His Family'

Romanek's thumb drives and computers have been analyzed by the Northern Colorado Regional Forensics Lab. NCRFL investigators said they discovered "over 300 images depicting child pornography" and multiple child pornography videos from a laptop located inside a bag that was in Romanek's office closet.

In a report filed by Koopman four days after the search warrant, the detective said Romanek had routinely switched internet service providers and created new profiles within peer-to-peer networks.

"In my training and experience, I have learned that this is consistent with a suspect attempting to evade detection by law enforcement," Koopman wrote.

On Feb. 13, 2014, Romanek was arrested on charges of possessing child pornography, a class four felony, and distributing child pornography, a class three felony. Romanek was released that same day on a $20,000 personal recognizance bond.

His next court date is Tuesday, March 18.

When reached for comment, Stan Romanek told HuffPost, "I can't speak because I have a head injury, and it probably wouldn't make sense to you."

Romanek later called back saying that he "fears for his family" but could not offer details.

[cptmarginal]

http://www.space.com/25060-vatican-obse ... 7_20160464

Is Alien Life Out There? Vatican Observatory Co-Hosts Science Conference in Arizona

By Megan Gannon, News Editor | March 16, 2014 10:00am ET

Are we alone in the universe? The ultimate question of life beyond Earth and the solar system takes center stage in a science conference led by the Vatican Observatory and a University of Arizona this week.

Nearly 200 scientists are attending the conference, called "The Search for Life Beyond the Solar System: Exoplanets, Biosignature & Instruments," which runs from March 16 through 21 in Tucson, Ariz. The Vatican Observatory is co-hosting the conference with the University of Arizona's Steward Observatory.

"Finding life beyond Earth is one of the great challenges of modern science and we are excited to have the world leaders in this field together in Tucson," said event co-chair Daniel Apai, assistant professor of astronomy and planetary sciences at the UA Steward Observatory, in a statement. "But reaching such an ambitious goal takes planning and time. The goal of this meeting is to discuss how we can find life among the stars within the next two decades."

Rev. Paul Gabor of the Vatican Observatory, the conference's other co-chair, added that scientists will give more than 160 research presentations during this week's conference.

According to the organizers, the conference will cover the technical challenges of finding and imaging exoplanets and identifying biosignatures in the atmospheres of far-flung worlds. Other presentations will discuss the study of life forms that live in extreme environments on Earth, which could be apt analogs for life on other planets.

The conference is not open to the public, but NASA's Astrobiology Institute will broadcast a live feed of the sessions. You can learn more about the conference via its website: http://www.ebi2014.org/

[8bitagent]

Speaking of pedo's...I've read from several conspiracy blogs that high concentration of UFO activity in Scotland sometimes corresponds with areas of child sexual abuse.
I've always considered a strong link between UFO/crop circle/related activity, the occult and abuse.

Regarding an M Night Shymalayn Signs-esque "reveal"...it will take time. Like the smithsonian gaining a few milimeters a year on broken ancient musical instruments or land masses moving a few inches in the ocean annually...
humanity has to be adjusted slowly. 9/11. 777's that disappear without a trace. But we're getting there. The flurry of 40s-50s activity(Battle of LA/Roswell/1952 UFO white house flyover) was jumping the shark.

[operator kos]

4 obvious possibilities re: Romanek...

1. He's into kiddie porn, his UFO story is BS, and the feds busted him accordingly.
2. He's not into kiddie porn and was framed to discredit his true UFO story.
3. He's not into kiddie porn and was framed to bring positive attention to his false UFO story; i.e. some people will assume he was framed and therefore his UFO story is true when in fact it is not.
4. He's into kiddie porn and his UFO story is true. The people who busted him for the porn may or may not know the truth re: his UFO claims.

One could also imagine other possibilities, like someone other than government agents put the porn on his computer. He pissed some random person off and they framed him/tipped off government agencies, etc. Or part of his UFO story are true, parts are false, but maybe some key name or location was named but in the wrong context, but that was enough to put him on someone's shit list.

Kinda sums up the whole field of UFOlogy... there sure seems to be a signal there, but there's no much noise that identifying it is practically impossible.