Global Warming, eh?

[wintler2]

Every radical cause needs a fruity Lord and several helpful billionaires.

Technical foul. Al Gore.

Al who? Some yank hypocrite, barely even a millionaire, couldn't lead a prayer breakfast, not like the many prominent AGW deniers in the US Republican party. Oh, and the head of ExxonMobil, another rebel like you.

But sorry, i got distracted.


Global warming denier instructs mining billionaire to buy out remnants of centrist media:

[eyeno]

Every radical cause needs a fruity Lord and several helpful billionaires.

Technical foul. Al Gore.

Al who? Some yank hypocrite, barely even a millionaire, couldn't lead a prayer breakfast, not like the many prominent AGW deniers in the US Republican party. Oh, and the head of ExxonMobil, another rebel like you.

I know damn well you ain't talkin to me, are ya?

[wintler2]

I know damn well you ain't talkin to me, are ya?

Certainly not to you, because that would be pointless, you are a timewaster.

Upper class global warming denier suggests mining billionaires buy out remnants of centrist media:

Six months later, far-right global warming denier mining billionaire Gina Rinehart has bought a decent chunk of channel 10 and controlling stake in our only non-News Corp newspaper chain.

I'm going to keep bringing it up until one of the heroic AGW-deniers explains how they maintain their anti-elite delusions.

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OT: Aussies may have seen or might like to see another far-right mining billionaire, yes thats the only type we have in stock, Clive Palmer, on ABC Lateline last Friday, where Clive displayed his man-crush for Tony Jones, its a deeply weird world.

[Iamwhomiam]

No news, really.

Just checkin' back to see if Ben's hell had frozen over yet.

[Ben D]

No news, really.

Just checkin' back to see if Ben's hell had frozen over yet.

Try to get over it, there is more to reality then you have ever imagined.

Reread my assessment of the CAGW zealots in my post of Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:05 am.

Another thing I note concerning them, is that they mostly seem to be victims of Empire's mind conditioning secular educational system ,...they can't think outside the confines of material reality and therefore are mentally blind to the larger reality that we know exists. Iow, they are materialists,...just about everything that Mysticism isn't. They seem to exhibit no awe of, or wonder about,.. the Whole picture,...the Cosmic order, both seen and unseen, immanent and transcendent.

That is why when they hear something outside the confines of their little mind, they go bananas! For if it were to be accepted as true, their whole hate filled little world would be seen to be the wrong way to live and since they've already invested so much of themselves in it,...there is no where else to go, and therefore to reestablish the semblance of peace of mind, the truth must be destroyed.

Which of course they can't do, but they would kill the messenger if they could as the next best thing.

Just reflect on the absurd childish and incoherent content of your posts, and the personal attacks on myself, is this this the way to learn more about planetary science?

At some level you actually know that the temperature records, graphs, and other information that I was posting and explaining were valid, and as I explained in my post above, there is nothing you can do or say about their authenticity. Since your AGW position was undefendable, you instinctively did the next best thing,...attack the messenger hoping that I would be intimidated and thus stop posting material that showed that AGW science is seriously flawed.

What I say to you and the others that went bananas,..do some real deep reflection about what and who you are in the context of the Cosmic Absoluteness. Seriously, there is a whole universe waiting for you that eventually you will have to make your peace with, and as they say, a thousand mile journey begins with a single step. There's life after being caught up in a materialistic mindset.

Namaste.

[wintler2]

.. the temperature records, graphs, and other information that I was posting and explaining were valid ...

Err, what? You posted 2 articles from the UK Daily Mail, a tabloid press of decades-long loyalty to the UK Tory party. Same newspaper was wrong about Iraq's WMD's, Blairs socialism, and communisms great threat to the West, and has always featured surprising amounts of female flesh for a supposedly respectable rag. I know you only have Murdochs The Australian & Courier Mail up there in Brissy, but surely you have some standards.

In any case, i and others challenged your chosen authority's spin on temp record, and you have made no effort to answer those challenges. You insisting on your buddah-like nature doesn't count.

[Ben D]

.. the temperature records, graphs, and other information that I was posting and explaining were valid ...

Err, what? You posted 2 articles from the UK Daily Mail, a tabloid press of decades-long loyalty to the UK Tory party. Same newspaper was wrong about Iraq's WMD's, Blairs socialism, and communisms great threat to the West, and has always featured surprising amounts of female flesh for a supposedly respectable rag. I know you only have Murdochs The Australian & Courier Mail up there in Brissy, but surely you have some standards.

In any case, i and others challenged your chosen authority's spin on temp record, and you have made no effort to answer those challenges. You insisting on your buddah-like nature doesn't count.

Do you understand the reality represented by the concept of 'liar' Wintler2?

Reflect on it, do you think you can actually bring about a change for the better by consistently misrepresenting the content of any posts that show, or even indicate the possibility that AGW science is flawed.?

To cut to the chase...

That is why when they hear something outside the confines of their little mind, they go bananas! For if it were to be accepted as true, their whole hate filled little world would be seen to be the wrong way to live and since they've already invested so much of themselves in it,...there is no where else to go, and therefore to reestablish the semblance of peace of mind, the truth must be destroyed.

Which of course they can't do, but they would kill the messenger if they could as the next best thing.

My advice to you if you sort of feel like going bananas, then remember my sig line and aspire to being at peace within yourself. Once you first feel this peace that passes understanding, you will most certainly become a changed soul for the better.

Namaste...

[wintler2]

Thanks BenD for again demonstrating your flat unwillingness or inability to engage in reasoned discussion. If we didn't have a resident denier i'd need to go find examples, link to them etc, whereas you are a handy self-feeding exemplar.

Any comment of Rinehart buying Fairfax? Aren't you thrilled that your mob have suppressed remnent dissenting views? She and Clive Palmer and Rupert look all set to outdo each other in AGW-denial, it must be lovely to have so many very rich people on your side.

[Ben D]

You don''t get it Wintler2, you've seen the stuff I've posted, it's not about me, I'm the messenger,...

[slimmouse]

Thanks BenD for again demonstrating your flat unwillingness or inability to engage in reasoned discussion. If we didn't have a resident denier i'd need to go find examples, link to them etc, whereas you are a handy self-feeding exemplar.

Any comment of Rinehart buying Fairfax? Aren't you thrilled that your mob have suppressed remnent dissenting views? She and Clive Palmer and Rupert look all set to outdo each other in AGW-denial, it must be lovely to have so many very rich people on your side.

I 'd settle for an odd one on my side, be it the Corporate Vampire or the Govnt one. Regrettably it seems theyre both ultimately on the same side. Kinda like the republicrats. Corporocracy will always win this particular argument and they love us engaging in it. After all either way, its all cash in the hand for them.

[wintler2]

.. After all either way, its all cash in the hand for them.

Yep, the profit motive for AGW-deniers like Koch brothers, Rinehart, Rupert Murdoch, ExxonMobil shareholders etc is obvious, and theres extensive evidence of them funding AGW-denial via Heartland Institute, CEI, IPA, Monkton, Plimer etc. Why you support them remains a mystery to me.

You don''t get it Wintler2, you've seen the stuff I've posted, it's not about me, I'm the messenger,...

At least it proves you're not a paid agent, nobody would pay for such half-arsed effort.. the Daily Mail?! pffft. But maybe you're distracted by the floods?

Queensland Floods: Bureau of Meteorology blames climate change

Qld floods 'linked to climate change'
.."The waters off Australia are the warmest ever measured and those waters provide moisture to the atmosphere for the Queensland and northern Australia monsoon," he told Reuters...

[Ben D]

Wintler2, did you actually read that article before you posted it, it seems to me to be a skeptics site...LoL

Queensland Floods: Bureau of Meteorology blames climate change

Queensland Floods: Bureau of Meteorology blames climate change

THURSDAY, 13 JANUARY 2011 8:41 AM · 1

by SIMON

The floodgates are open. The unfalsifiable hypothesis of dangerous man-made global warming comes to the rescue and provides the answer to the terrible Queensland floods.

We can all now self-flagellate, wailing that driving our SUVs is to blame. Over a quarter of a million Google hits for +queensland +flood +”climate change” in the last week alone.

But hang on a minute, when there was a drought in Australia, climate change caused that too. Referring here to New South Wales and the Murray-Darling Basin, where there have also been recent flooding rains.

AGW causes the droughts and the floods, the cold and the heat, and all of the complementary opposite pairs of weather patterns known to exist,...but that's not all, there's more...

A more complete list of things caused by global warming

[Ben D]

From my post of Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:46 pm....

Btw, I think it important to avoid as much unnecessary confusion as possible going on, so it's hoped that everyone has a clear idea of the GW (Global Warming) so far, regardless of what are the main drivers of it.

Can we all agree that the planet has warmed a total of about 0.8 of a degree C since records began in 1880, ie. 130 years, or as a trend over that time, 0.006 of a degree C per year.

If anyone disputes this figure, please speak up!

Namaste..

[Rory]

A more complete list of things caused by global warming

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brignell

John Brignell, Ph.D., is a retired Professor of Industrial Instrumentation at University of Southampton. (emminently qualified to talk about the environment).

(I thought you had a problem with.formal, first world education. Or does bendie represent you flopping from one position to another)

he has disputed the theory of anthropogenic global warming,[2] questioned the relationship between second-hand smoke and lung cancer,[3] and suggested that the hole in the ozone layer existed before the rise in the use of chlorofluorocarbons.[2] (shilling for the tobaco companies also! Nice. Classy)

mid 2005, Brignell prepared a list of over 600 links to news reports linking various contradictory phenomena to global warming.[6] In November 2007, this list appeared on the spiked website,[7] then the Rush Limbaugh show,[8] and has since been quoted in other places, eg.[9]

(well, the saying goes that you can judge a man by the company he keeps. Rush fucking Limbaugh. And yourself. Your company, despite your white yoga dude affectation, is the company of corporations, right wing media sources and and the most egregious fraudsters of the modern age.

Om shanti om...)

[eyeno]

the most poisonous aspect of tobacco smoking is the FLAME RETARDANT in the papers of the tobacco and the pesticides used to grow it. Tobacco smoking, in times past, was not associated with the diseases it is today. Tobacco, in its pure form, is not the pestilence that is in the modern age. Tobacco, in its pure form, actually has some health benefits when used in moderation. Like everything else poisons have been added to tobacco which fuels the big medicine machine, which is not at all a surprise. I don't know where this fits in to the bigger picture you paint but it is a fact. Not to mention the fact that flame retardants were added to stop people from burning up their beds when they fell asleep, which obviously does not work, because cigarettes burn without going out if you don't puff on them. It was added as a poison, for some reason, which alert minds may fathom.