Those sources provide evidence it is. [url=http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/annual/wa/perth.shtml]Hottest year ever in my home town[url], 32C there right now at 9pm local time, i'm on other side of continent and its 28C at 11pm.
Do you have evidence that you are able to provide and discuss that suggests otherwise?
Janice Lloyd, USA TODAY Staff
Camelias, a New Orleans trademark, staking out in North Carolina and higher latitudes?
It’s true, gardening experts say, and expect similar oddities to represent the new norm.
It is now safe to plant new species in many parts of the nation, according to a new government map released Wednesday showing new growing guidelines for the first time in decades. A gradual northward warming trend makes it possible to plant trees and other perennials that would have perished in colder zones.
The “hardiness” zones, the gospel to the the nation’s 82 million gardeners that are printed on the back of seed packs and catalogs, are based on average minimum temperatures.
“It is a good thing the government has updated the map,” says Woodrow Nelson, director of marketing communications for the Arbor Day Foundation. “Our members have been noticing these climate changes for years and have been successfully growing new kinds of trees in places they wouldn’t grow before.”
For example, Pennsylvania’s growing zone was considered risky for Southern Magnolias, according to the old government map dating to 1990. But the new map, based on updated weather statistics from 1996 to 2005, puts Pennsylvania, like much of the Northeast, in a warmer growing zone.
Catherine Woteki, an undersecretary of the Department of Agriculture, which issued the new guidelines, cautioned against reading too much into the changes. “We do not think the plant hardiness zone methodology is appropriate for making comments on climate change,” she says.
Might gardeners being going out on a limb? Steve Carroll, director of public programs at the State Arboretum in Virginia, advises gardeners to check with their local nurseries or a university extension program for advice.
“There’s definitely a changing climate,” says Charlie Nardozzi, a gardening consultant in northern Vermont. “But that doesn’t mean we won’t have a harsh winter again that could kill all their plants.”
Check out the interactive map: USDA Interactive Map
http://planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/PHZM ... veMap.aspx
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTa6hBVX ... r_embedded
eyeno wrote:I find this interesting. Some probably remember that some airports in the southern United States had to shift their runway operations because seemingly the magnetic fields had changed in the area. Around the same time many people around the world were reporting strange behavior of their compasses. Now the USDA has issued new planting maps. ...
Elihu wrote:cross - quoteYes, this is exactly about "the survival of our species." As such, this is not a trivial matter, nor is it in any way "irrelevant."
What's more, I can imagine no topic that is of greater consequence.wintler2 wrote:Its a personal/'religious' thing, but i can: the survial of Life/as many species as possible on this planet. I think that makes me a biotian, but not the brand of scooter.
"Marge and Homer, not really enthusiastic about getting on the bus,
are pushed on by the crowd of Springfield elite. Trent, not sensing
their reluctance, tells them they're going on a trip to save a stand of
redwoods. Homer screams and pulls on an Emergency Exit handle. Marge
shouts out the window at Ed Begley, Jr.
Marge: Aren't you coming, Ed?
Begley: I prefer a vehicle that doesn't hurt Mother Earth. It's a go-
cart, powered by my own sense of self-satisfaction.
[Begley attaches a wired-helmet to his head and quickly
publius wrote:And global chemtrails also have an effect on climate; and HAARP also. And war. But our Sun surely has much more impact than humans.
Temperature and magnetic fields are quite different things. The current historically extreme rate of change in mean temperature has a very well known cause, nothing especially to do with magnetic fields.
Sounder wrote:Gee, I wonder what will be considered to be the greatest threat life on earth in five or ten years?
Lets ponder, would it be poisoning our environment, including our bodies, through GMO's, glyphosates, growing food in dead soil, constant dumping of industrial waste, fluoride, fracking, all or any of these things--- or CO2
You make the call wintler2, where should 'environmentalists' be spending their time? Should they be writing papers that say we need to tax carbon so that we may avert a future yet assured catastrophe? Good hook for the grant app. that there. 'Give me a little and I will justify your ability to get a whole lot more money, yes we have a winner'.
Or here, consider this option. Lets have environmental scientists study any and all aspects of environment so that we might respect the abode of our being in its essence and totality rather than as an eviscerated empty form that only serves to provide the illusion of righteousness.
I remain yours truly, suitably to be ignored
Keep up the personal insults Elihu, helps prove you got nothing else.
Sorta. But i thought the circumpolar winds are a consequence of planets rotation rather than driven in any sense by the magnetic field.eyeno wrote:They are different things but very much correlated. The earth is like a big magnet in a way. It has south and north poles.Air currents circle the poles like a merry go round.
If poles shift then i think Earths orientation to sun will gradually shift and so i guess the air currents would shift too.eyeno wrote:If the poles shift the climate will shift globally with it because the circular pattern of air circulation will shift with it also.
Possibly eventually the climate at latititude X would change, wake me if it ever happens.eyeno wrote: If the poles shift it will automatically adjust the climate at the latitudes. I don't see how the poles could shift without affecting the global weather pattern.
Grid? Like humans draw on maps? Now you've lost me.eyeno wrote: Its tied together like a grid, and if the grid shifts the climate shifts with it. The equator will shift will a pole shift and move the whole matrix.
Elihu wrote:Keep up the personal insults Elihu, helps prove you got nothing else.
well help me out here. what am i supposed to believe in? the religion or the science? for me the science is an open question. instead of the wafting odor of co2, i smell collusion, conflict of interest and agenda. these are human traits that transform academic science into commercial science. the academic kind is the only one i will be converted to. the religion? sorry i couldn't resist having a chuckle at your expense. but we're all grown-ups here right?
wintler2 wrote:National Geographic 2011 Among Hottest Years, Marked by Extreme Weather
This year is shaping up to be one of the ten hottest years on record, according to a United Nations report announced yesterday.
Sorta. But i thought the circumpolar winds are a consequence of planets rotation rather than driven in any sense by the magnetic field.
Possibly eventually the climate at latititude X would change, wake me if it ever happens.
Grid? Like humans draw on maps? Now you've lost me.
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