Ben D wrote:..The thing is that average global temperature has increased about 0.8 of a degree Celsius since records began in 1880 until now.
Most of that in the last 40 years. And within the average are extremes, like +2C at high northern latitudes.
Ben D wrote:..On the other hand, the AGW crowd have produced computer climate models 20 years ago that predict a runaway warming in the 21st century,...and we are now 12 years into it and there are no signs of any accelerated warming.
Disingenuous. What do you get out of referring to some unnamed climate modellers as 'the global warming crowd'? I suspect it as an attempt to hide the very large body of observations/evidence to date behind the 'all models are wrong' red herring, but i'm terribly suspicious.
Also, since the 21stC is 88% incomplete, how can you say anything about predictions of it? Why not notice what is going on now?
Ben D wrote:Let's face it, the state of the art in understanding the climate of the planet is far from being complete and trustworthy, it's just a matter of time before this is understood by everyone except the 'flat earthers'.
Imperfect knowledge is no excuse for apathy.
Ben D wrote:This is not relevant to the statistical evidence, but does anyone else have an intuitive 'wait a sec' moment,...it doesn't deem reasonable to imagine that this planet Earth, which has been through god knows what over its history, is so inherently unstable that an increase in CO2 (which constitutes just a mere 0.038% of the the planets atmosphere) from a mere 320 to 385 parts per million by volume over the last 40 years (just 2 PPM per year), is sending it into runaway heating?
You're right, its not relevant to evidence, its a 'common man' appeal using deceitful claims:
- "through god knows what" - actually god is silent on the issue but we do have extensive evidence of what the planet "has been through", thats how we know now is special, its rate of change in particular.
- preindustrial atmospheric co2 conc was 280ppm
and thats the baseline not 320.
- the % of bullet to body weight makes no linear limitation on its impact, same goes for greenhouse gases, especially say sulfur hexafluoride
"Wintler2, you are a disgusting example of a human being, the worst kind in existence on God's Earth. This is not just my personal judgement.." BenD
Research question: are all god botherers authoritarians?