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82_28 wrote:Holy crap, that is fantastic! Wow. Bump. Etc.

Some interesting things I noted. Nobody was on cellphones yet as their first thing to reach for and call/text (this was before texting for the most part and even if they were the networks would have been much less robust). Essentially, what I mean is that nobody was filming with their phone cams, nobody was tweeting, nobody was updating their facebook page (none of which existed yet), nobody was even calling one another yet. Cellphones were in and the networks were coming along into what we know of them today, but it wasn't the first inclination for those filmed in this footage to immediately reach for their phones.

But what I find most curious, in a most PKDickian way is that time has seemed to have ceased. 10 years ago people look largely, fashionwise as they do today. No noticeable datedness, as though time really stood still from that day on. It's easy to see datedness within decades before 9/11/2001, but not I don't think, in this decade which has just passed. Hair styles have remained the same, clothing articles don't look like "remember when we wore shit like that?" Etc.

We all defined ourselves by that day and in turn defined one another and ourselves as a global society. Time travel, in this limited way we can do it, is most interesting.

This is a fantastic link and thank you for pointing it out!

But then look at LATE 90's films...The Matrix, Fight Club, Being John Malkovich, Eyes Wide Shut, etc. NOTHING about those films look like they couldnt have been filmed today.
Agent Smith in the Matrix refers to(Im assuming 1999/millennium) time being supplanted by the machine state without people realizing, so that time essentially got stuck in repeat. It's been non time ever since, a foggy dr office vestibule with nothing but dated Highlights and Golf Digest issues to read.

Joe Hillshoist wrote:

But then look at LATE 90's films...The Matrix, Fight Club, Being John Malkovich, Eyes Wide Shut, etc. NOTHING about those films look like they couldnt have been filmed today.
Agent Smith in the Matrix refers to(Im assuming 1999/millennium) time being supplanted by the machine state without people realizing, so that time essentially got stuck in repeat. It's been non time ever since, a foggy dr office vestibule with nothing but dated Highlights and Golf Digest issues to read.

8bit I'm just wondering if the same thing happened in 1900?

But it could also be that we are no longer with it.

As the nation prepares to mark the 10th anniversary of the September 11 attacks, a pair of leading internet archivists are launching an ambitious project called "Understanding 9/11: A Television News Archive," which catalogs 3,000 hours of domestic and international TV news footage from 20 channels from the week around September 11, 2001. Television news coverage of the September 11 attacks and their aftermath not only documented one of the most important events in mass memory but also influenced public perception.

We feature excerpts of coverage from the global archive and speak with its organizers, Brewster Kahle and Rick Prelinger. Kahle is an internet entrepreneur, activist, digital librarian and founder of the Internet Archive and the Open Content Alliance, a group of organizations committed to making a permanent, publicly accessible archive of digitized texts.

Prelinger is an archivist, writer, filmmaker and founder of the Prelinger Archives, a collection of 60,000 advertising, educational, industrial and amateur films acquired by the Library of Congress in 2002 after 20 years’ operation. "[9/11] was a major event that was really a television event. People really understood this through television," says Kahle. He adds that seeing "how people are starting to come to grips with it really shaped how we saw the whole event." [includes rush transcript]

http://www.democracynow.org/2011/8/24/t ... ws_archive

82_28 wrote:
But what I find most curious, in a most PKDickian way is that time has seemed to have ceased. 10 years ago people look largely, fashionwise as they do today. No noticeable datedness, as though time really stood still from that day on. It's easy to see datedness within decades before 9/11/2001, but not I don't think, in this decade which has just passed. Hair styles have remained the same, clothing articles don't look like "remember when we wore shit like that?" Etc.