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Roswell UFO Was Not Of This Earth Ex-CIA Agent Says

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:26 pm
by seemslikeadream
Roswell UFO Was Not Of This Earth And There Were ET Cadavers: Ex-CIA Agent Says
Posted: 07/08/2012 12:36 pm Updated: 07/08/2012 2:22 pm

Happy anniversary, Roswell, N.M. It was 65 years ago today that the Roswell Daily Record blasted an infamous headline claiming local military officials had captured a flying saucer on a nearby ranch. And now, a former CIA agent says it really happened.

"It was not a damn weather balloon -- it was what it was billed when people first reported it," said Chase Brandon, a 35-year CIA veteran. "It was a craft that clearly did not come from this planet, it crashed and I don't doubt for a second that the use of the word 'remains' and 'cadavers' was exactly what people were talking about."

Brandon served as an undercover, covert operations officer in the agency's Clandestine Service for 25 years, where he was assigned missions in international terrorism, counterinsurgency, global narcotics trafficking and weapons smuggling. He spent his final 10 years of CIA service on the director's staff as the agency's first official liaison to the entertainment and publication industries. It was during this time, in the mid-1990s, that he walked into a special section of CIA headquarters in Langley, Va., called the Historical Intelligence Collection.

"It was a vaulted area and not everybody could get in it," Brandon told The Huffington Post. "One day, I was looking around in there and reading some of the titles that were mostly hand-scribbled summations of what was in the boxes. And there was one box that really caught my eye. It had one word on it: Roswell.

"I took the box down, lifted the lid up, rummaged around inside it, put the box back on the shelf and said, 'My god, it really happened!'"

What exactly did the box contain that had such a powerful impact on Brandon?

"Some written material and some photographs, and that's all I will ever say to anybody about the contents of that box," he said. "But it absolutely, for me, was the single validating moment that everything I had believed, and knew that so many other people believed had happened, truly was what occurred,"

None of this comes as a surprise to Stanton T. Friedman, a nuclear-physicist-turned-UFOlogist, who was the original civilian investigator of the Roswell UFO incident.

In the late 1970s, Friedman began to uncover former military eyewitnesses who had been involved with the original events that took place at Roswell in 1947.

Despite the fact that the military changed its story overnight, saying on July 8, 1947 that a flying disk had been captured but claiming on July 9 that a weather balloon had been recovered, Friedman's early investigative efforts prompted many Roswell witnesses to come forward and tell their stories. Numerous researchers have dug up more facts in the years since.

"It's been 65 years since things took place at Roswell," Friedman told HuffPost. "How much more widely known could it be -- everywhere I've spoken in the world, they ask about Roswell."

"What we really need now is the Woodward-Bernstein of the UFO world to bring out the disclosure," said Friedman. "Maybe Chase Brandon is a foresight of something going on.

"It's time for the retirement of the mythical part -- where we don't have all the pieces -- to be replaced by the true story of what happened, all the details, and we certainly don't have them."

Watch this video from a 1989 episode of 'Unsolved Mysteries UFO Files: Roswell.'



Brandon is currently promoting his book, "The Cryptos Conundrum," a science fiction story about the history of Earth, contact with extraterrestrials and imagined cataclysmic events on our planet.

He remains steadfast about the pieces of the Roswell puzzle he's willing to share, and he emphasizes there's no internal CIA policy that prevents him from revealing any details of what he saw in that box at the agency headquarters.

"Nobody tells any of us that we can't say anything about sources, methods, classified information having to do with working for the Central Intelligence Agency," Brandon said. "We all sign a secrecy agreement that says we understand we are forbidden to do that by law, and that is an inherent part of keeping and safeguarding what we do, how we do it, why we do it, out of national security concerns.

"I'm not reluctant to talk about it -- I won't talk about it. I'm telling you there was a box that had stuff in there having to do with Roswell, and I looked through it, and it validated everything I believed in, and that's all I have to say about it. I will go to my grave being mindful of the two hats that I wear: My personal one and the one that will forever reside on my head as a former CIA officer."

Re: Roswell UFO Was Not Of This Earth Ex-CIA Agent Says

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:32 pm
by NeonLX
We visited the historical museum in Roswell back in 2006. I have to say I'm less skeptical (that the 1947 even was a crash landing of some sort of extraterrestrial craft) than I was before visiting...

Re: Roswell UFO Was Not Of This Earth Ex-CIA Agent Says

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:53 pm
by 8bitagent
Like many religious/spiritual/conspiracy related things people believe in, I doubt there will ever be CNN breaking news "this is it" definitive evidence that the Roswell crash was unearthly.
It's like the spinning top at the end of Inception. It's meant to always be open ended and for the viewer to decide. This isn't watergate, where we get to find out who Deep Throat is.
Whatever happened(weatherballoon accident, ETs, etc) I consider Roswell to be an interesting esoteric event. The lat/long of the crash itself, the mystery it created and opened up...helping to usher in a world of sky seekers in a way not even HG Wells could have done.

Re: Roswell UFO Was Not Of This Earth Ex-CIA Agent Says

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:20 pm
by 82_28
I love looking for juxtapositions per page for momentous things like this -- and even the non momentous. However, before SLAD posted this I was searching for shit and I was gonna chime in with this interesting juxtaposition along with the story she cites. It was published in Seattle, obviously. But it could be a "hint" as to the "priming" the Roswell incident was meant to incite. The reason -- I do not know. Just throwing it out there. If the archives are to be believed, then military shit was crashing left and right in Roswell back then -- dozens of stories of crashed this and crashed that.

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November 12th, 1943

In other words, I found this hit to be quite striking because it "imprinted" an association of "Roswell" with "meteor crater" adjacent to one another for people who probably read the complete newspaper each day as there was no facebook or RI for that matter back then. There were no hyperlinks, not really any TV and it was all radio and word of mouth stuff people did. For the day, people probably hadn't even heard of Meteor Crater, AZ yet, as the western US was still growing and was sparsely populated. Totally circumstantial, but there it is.

Re: Roswell UFO Was Not Of This Earth Ex-CIA Agent Says

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:25 pm
by Luther Blissett
Stanton Friedman wasn't really the original investigator - some people studied it throughout the middle of the century, that's just what wikipedia says.

The book he's promoting isn't overtly about UFOs as far as I can tell - the intro mentions Kryptos, so it's probably just yet another "ex-spook spilling the 'secrets'" memoir.

Re: Roswell UFO Was Not Of This Earth Ex-CIA Agent Says

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:30 pm
by Wombaticus Rex
OP wrote:"Nobody tells any of us that we can't say anything about sources, methods, classified information having to do with working for the Central Intelligence Agency," Brandon said. "We all sign a secrecy agreement that says we understand we are forbidden to do that by law, and that is an inherent part of keeping and safeguarding what we do, how we do it, why we do it, out of national security concerns."


Today on Strange Loops of Self-Negation...

Re: Roswell UFO Was Not Of This Earth Ex-CIA Agent Says

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:29 pm
by Joe Hillshoist
A few things got my attention in the OP:

Brandon served as an undercover, covert operations officer in the agency's Clandestine Service for 25 years, where he was assigned missions in international terrorism, counterinsurgency, global narcotics trafficking and weapons smuggling. He spent his final 10 years of CIA service on the director's staff as the agency's first official liaison to the entertainment and publication industries.


Is that saying he was assigned to carry out international terrorism, coin, global narco and weapons trafficking? Cos that is exactly how i read it.

and

"Some written material and some photographs, and that's all I will ever say to anybody about the contents of that box," he said. "But it absolutely, for me, was the single validating moment that everything I had believed, and knew that so many other people believed had happened, truly was what occurred,"

...

Brandon is currently promoting his book, "The Cryptos Conundrum," a science fiction story about the history of Earth, contact with extraterrestrials and imagined cataclysmic events on our planet.

Re: Roswell UFO Was Not Of This Earth Ex-CIA Agent Says

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:45 pm
by Luther Blissett
Joe Hillshoist wrote:A few things got my attention in the OP:

Brandon served as an undercover, covert operations officer in the agency's Clandestine Service for 25 years, where he was assigned missions in international terrorism, counterinsurgency, global narcotics trafficking and weapons smuggling. He spent his final 10 years of CIA service on the director's staff as the agency's first official liaison to the entertainment and publication industries.


Is that saying he was assigned to carry out international terrorism, coin, global narco and weapons trafficking? Cos that is exactly how i read it.

and

"Some written material and some photographs, and that's all I will ever say to anybody about the contents of that box," he said. "But it absolutely, for me, was the single validating moment that everything I had believed, and knew that so many other people believed had happened, truly was what occurred,"

...

Brandon is currently promoting his book, "The Cryptos Conundrum," a science fiction story about the history of Earth, contact with extraterrestrials and imagined cataclysmic events on our planet.


Ohhhhhh... thanks. Why is so much of the PR about Kryptos? It's not as if the sculpture holds any real secrets. It just IS a secret. One with errors.

The original piece wasn't very well-written.

Re: Roswell UFO Was Not Of This Earth Ex-CIA Agent Says

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:30 pm
by Elvis



I heard this guy Brandon on "Coast to Coast AM" and he was entertaining but his answer to every criticism of the CIA was essentially, 'they're really a wonderful bunch of people, though mistakes are made, and don't forget the CIA is the most overseen agency in the government, accountable to just about everybody!' His Roswell box story is plausible as I understand it, but he could be planting something for someone.

Along similar lines, Bill Clinton was on the NPR radio game show "Wait Wait Don't Tell Me" and someone asked him whether he discovered anything about UFOs while in office. He said he tried to find out but couldn't find anything. The host suggested that maybe 'they' just didn't tell him the truth; Clinton said, "There's no telling what they don't tell you..." and just as he started down that intriguing path, some idiot on the panel interrupted him with some lame unrelated question. I wanted to strangle the guy! But that one comment from Clinton was certainly interesting.

Re: Roswell UFO Was Not Of This Earth Ex-CIA Agent Says

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:09 pm
by StarmanSkye
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Re: Roswell UFO Was Not Of This Earth Ex-CIA Agent Says

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:48 pm
by justdrew
ya know, I'd swear someone else has made this same exact claim, that they'd seen a box of proof or knew of the box of "proof" in the cia's history vault

Re: Roswell UFO Was Not Of This Earth Ex-CIA Agent Says

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:25 pm
by jingofever
justdrew wrote:ya know, I'd swear someone else has made this same exact claim, that they'd seen a box of proof or knew of the box of "proof" in the cia's history vault

You might be thinking of Daniel Sheehan in the Library of Congress.

Re: Roswell UFO Was Not Of This Earth Ex-CIA Agent Says

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:53 pm
by Burnt Hill
"It was a vaulted area and not everybody could get in it," Brandon told The Huffington Post. "One day, I was looking around in there and reading some of the titles that were mostly hand-scribbled summations of what was in the boxes. And there was one box that really caught my eye. It had one word on it: Roswell.

I dont believe this, either he was set up to find the "box", or he made it up.

Re: Roswell UFO Was Not Of This Earth Ex-CIA Agent Says

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:28 pm
by MacCruiskeen
Burnt Hill wrote:
"It was a vaulted area and not everybody could get in it," Brandon told The Huffington Post. "One day, I was looking around in there and reading some of the titles that were mostly hand-scribbled summations of what was in the boxes. And there was one box that really caught my eye. It had one word on it: Roswell.

I dont believe this, either he was set up to find the "box", or he made it up.


Agreed. More likely still, he made it up because he was under orders to make it up.

I mean, really:

The Huffington Post wrote:Ex-CIA Agent


Let's imagine his (former!) CIA bosses wailing and gnashing their teeth because this puckered old asshole has abruptly & courageously seen the light and spoken Truth to Power. Not easy to do, is it? You might as well try imagining that Arianna Huffington constitutes a threat to the US ruling class.

In other news:

The Huffington Post wrote:Brandon is currently promoting his book, "The Cryptos Conundrum," a science fiction story


Well, he would be, wouldn't he?

Re: Roswell UFO Was Not Of This Earth Ex-CIA Agent Says

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:12 pm
by zuestorz
Strange provenance. For perspective check this account. Author's seem to have tried to shop this piece to Huffpost and were declined?

http://silverscreensaucers.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/senior-cia-officer-claims-knowledge-of.html


Robbie Graham wrote:
. . .Not insignificantly, Brandon also claimed during his interview to have spoken to JFK’s coroner, who he says confirmed to him that the President had been shot from the front and was therefore most definitely the victim of a conspiracy. Of course, Brandon’s own personal ‘disclosures’ may prove an effective way to sell copies of his book, and also to whet appetites for his forthcoming sequel, The Hour Glass. This is certainly the more mainstream interpretation of what has transpired here. Still, such a deceitful and outlandish marketing strategy runs the risk of Brandon appearing to be, well, deceitful and outlandish. For a man currently employed as Senior Consultant to SpecTal, the intelligence division of defence giant BAE Systems, Brandon’s Roswell declarations are liable at least to raise difficult questions among colleagues. Furthermore, in the unlikely event that any costs result from Brandon’s statements, such as if they prompt someone to steal material from the HIC, he could at least be sued by the government. . .

We were unable to find a mainstream outlet for our report, despite its conspicuous newsworthiness in light of this week’s 65th anniversary of the Roswell incident. Our article was submitted to the following mainstream and alternative news outlets:

Huffington Post

Telegraph

Telegraph on Sunday

Roswell Daily Record

Albuquerque Journal

Santa Fe New Mexican

Guardian

Daily Mail

Los Angeles Times

National Post

Globe and Mail

Toronto Sun

Toronto Star

Raw Story

Mother Jones

Z-Net

Alternet

GregPalast.com

Regardless of the exact nature of the UFO phenomenon, it is a great shame for those of us interested in either UFOs or government propaganda that Chase Brandon's statements have been unchallenged and, indeed, unreported outside of the UFO community and that the CIA itself has yet to respond to them, despite our enquiries. Brandon’s statements beg explanation for several reasons, not least because they indicate that the concerns of the powerful are very distant from those of ordinary citizens in a participatory democracy.


Coming so quickly off the back of those inflammatory and misleading statements from Nick Pope, I think we're getting boondoggled again here folks. :wallhead: