11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Moderators: Elvis, DrVolin, Jeff

11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby 8bitagent » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:15 pm

11 years to the day after George HW Bush's famous "New World Order" speech, 9/11/2001 happened. And now, 11 years after that Lynchian-Michael Bay horror show, here we are.
I can sum up my travels in the "truth" movement or the 'truth movement' overall with this image
Image

But all is not lost! While the days of screaming in bullhorns on street corners about "WTC7 You Sheeple!" and high fiving yourself for convincing your coworker "9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!!"
(as well as the overall 2006 pop culture phenomenon of truther chic) is long gone(as most of even the left has gone back to the default al qaeda dunnit position) there's some good memories.

But I must ask...when all is said or done, what were some of the more strange facts about 9/11 you uncovered?

For me...and to act as a MODERN day 9/11 coincidence guide
(these are literally all from memory as I type, so apologies if there is misspelling)

1. The co-pilot of the downed Wellstone plane had hung around alleged "20th hijacker" Zacharius Moussoui in Oklahoma, even giving Moussoui software found on his laptop

2. The same laptop where beheaded Nick Berg's passwords and accounts were found on, as word had it he and Moussoui were seen together

3. And Moussaoui was at the same motel with Mohammed Atta in 2001, that his roomate Melvin Lattimore was at with Timothy Mcveigh in 1995.
Moussaoui's roommate was Hussain al Attas, who drove to Minnesota to try and get Moussaoui out of jail despite the FBI trying to seize his laptop before 9/11.

4. Friend of FBI informant/hijacker housing helper Sam Kouchesfahani(also alleged to have had ties with housing alleged terrorists) rented out the Heaven's Gate mansion
near San Diego to the death cult

5. And while Heaven's Gate got kicked off with a call in by former protoge of an FBI/remote viewer, the top "Men Who Stare At Goats" guy Bert Rodriguez(played by Clooney in the film adaptation)
trained 9/11 hijacker Ziad Jarrah in 2001

6. The first victims of the anthrax attacks was the Sun Tabloid, owned by the Irishes who were renting out a condo to some of the hijackers in Florida

7. While in Florida, Israeli agents were living next to and or near some of the alleged hijackers(especially in Hollywood Florida)

8. One of the STRANGEST of all 9/11 facts: The avant garde performance art team "B Thing" who snuck into a higher floor room in the World Trade Center
had a member that a year later was living with the very Israeli agents living next door to some of the hijackers. Another B Thing member lived near Hamas fundraising
front Infocom in Dallas

9. Saudi Arabia was sending money to some of the hijackers in San Diego, but was also sending funds to Care International(not THE "Care Intl") which in reality was simply the retitled
al Kifah Center that was an al Qaeda/Maktab al Khadamat splinter group in Boston and Brooklyn. This got folded into the Yasin al Qadi group of companies, such as Bannon Technologies,
PTECH, BMI real estate, Logan Furniture and other Braintree area Mass. businesses. Yasin al Qadi was known as a top financier for bin Laden, but had also been a good friend of some
Washington DC Republicans. al Kifah was at the center(allegedly) of the WTC 1993 bomb plot, which also included Rabbi Khahane killer mastermind and green beret/special forces
Ali Mohammed. Also allegedly involved, OKC 1995 and 9/11 hijacker connected man Melvin Lattimore AKA Mujahid Menepta, as well as FBI informan Emad Salem and a literal Iraqi agent
(tho much of this was kept quiet)

10. Speaking of PTech, in 2001 a majority of US computer systems(CIA, DOD, FBI, Air Force, Secret Service, etc) had Ptech backdoor software on it

11. The "Angel is Next" code threat on 9/11 that seemed to spook even the neocons(who, according to truthers believe were running 9/11)

12. FBI Agent John O'neil who died mysteriously on 9/11, was at a Madrid Spain counter terror conference the week after some of the hijackers had been in the *same* hotel

13. Anwar al Awlaki, the so called head of Yemeni Al Qaeda(AQAP) alleged to have been behind several anti US plots(and killed by Obama via drones)
had a power luncheon with some of the top Pentagon brass a few months after 9/11

14. This is significant, as Awlaki is alleged to have been in close contact with Ramzi bin Alshidh and KSM in Hamburg via telephone, and was one of the main hosts and liasons
for Khalid al Midhar and Nawaf al Hazmi. He allegedly was being paid by the Saudis to "show around" these two guys, who were getting funds from Saudi Arabia.
Awlaki allegedly took these two guys to Falls Church Virginia to stay at WAMY, which was started by Abdullah bin Laden and Omar bin Laden.

15. Abdullah bin Laden and Omar bin Laden were one of several "persons of interest" on the bin Laden flights as well as others who had direct dealings with terror financing.
Another one was prominent Saudi elite Saleh Ibn Abdul Rahman Hussayen, who was in the same hotel as three of the hijackers the NIGHT BEFORE 9/11

16. Most of the 9/11 money was said to have gone through Standard Chartered Bank in Dubai, which had its main HQ in America in the WTC7 building.
SC is now being taken down by regulators for alleged laundering of Iranian money

17. Allegedly now protected by BND intel, Mamoun Darklazanli was one of Mohamed Atta's main men in the so called Hamberg cell. He and his associates were working for "Tatex Trading" and other
Syrian intelligence connected groups.

18. One character fingered as a 9/11 financier was ISI asset Omar Saeed Sheikh, who allegedly was involved with KSM in the Pearl plot. He would be one of many ties to the Pakistani ISI

19. In the summer of 1999, a high ranking ISI agent and a bin Laden weapons procurer met with FBI informants to discuss weapons deals. Allegedly the comment about the Twin Towers coming down was made

20. Dubai and the UAE could be said to be some of the lifeblood of al Qaeda, where high level Arab elites would meet with top al Qaeda chiefs and give them money and blessing



EDIT

21. Credit cards some of the hijackers were using in 2001 ended up *still* being used up to two weeks later

22. The morning of 9/11, as the hijackers were already in the skies, one of the maids at the hotel was said to have been shooed away from an unknown man still occupying one of the rooms the hijackers stayed in.

23. Some of the hijackers were only a couple miles from where George W Bush would sleep in Florida not long before 9/11

24. Some witnesses claim that they saw the 9/11 hijacker suspects hanging out with some airport/tarmac crew employees

25. Early reports indicated the weapons used were preplanted behind or under the seats the hijackers used

26. One of the suspects who helped the hijackers at the airport(Mohdar Abdullah, a Yemeni) somehow was released despite video of him and several of the suspects

27. Strange reports of white vans darting around NYC and NJ with reportedly Israeli men. One group of which was reportedly joyful as they saw the attack at the WTC unfold. These men would later say they were "there to document the event" and some CIA analysts spoke candidly of possible Israeli shadowing of the hijackers

28. During the summer of 2001, Israeli art students were using whirly copter toy kiosks at malls and door to door soliciting at US military bases as possible cover for spying

29. A man named Rocky Hammad was caught up in part of a DMV scam in Memphis. He and his cohorts allegedly had WTC building maintenance crew badges. And the woman who helped them was found killed in a burned out car, and another man with a pipe bombs trapped to him. Rocky worked for a Ukranian mob/pedo/arms/narco linked plumber outfit in New York.

30. Allegedly, the Dentist(dr David Graham) had come in contact with two of the alleged 9/11 hijackers.
Last edited by 8bitagent on Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:10 pm, edited 3 times in total.
"Do you know who I am? I am the arm, and I sound like this..."-man from another place, twin peaks fire walk with me
User avatar
8bitagent
 
Posts: 12243
Joined: Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:49 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

never not funny

Postby IanEye » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:56 pm

User avatar
IanEye
 
Posts: 4863
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:33 pm
Blog: View Blog (29)

Re: 11 Years After 11...

Postby Nordic » Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:33 am

11. The "Angel is Next" code threat on 9/11 that seemed to spook even the neocons(who, according to truthers believe were running 9/11)


Hadn't heard about this. Care to elaborate?

ON EDIT: Never mind, just did some googling.
"He who wounds the ecosphere literally wounds God" -- Philip K. Dick
Nordic
 
Posts: 14230
Joined: Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:36 am
Location: California USA
Blog: View Blog (6)

Re: 11 Years After 11...

Postby 2012 Countdown » Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:40 am

Image
Panel Conclusions of the Toronto Hearings and Documentary on 9/11 in Universities

On Tuesday, September 11, 2012, at the University of Toronto, Professors Richard B. Lee and Herb Jenkins, who served as Panelists at the Toronto Hearings on 9/11 at Ryerson University last year, will discuss their conclusions based on the presentations by several expert witnesses who argued that the official theory of 9/11 is false. The event is called "9/11: Are Our Universities Failing Us?
This is intended to be a major event for the general public for the 11th anniversary of 9/11. In noting that many of the expert witnesses at the Toronto Hearings were university professors and that the larger academic community has generally maintained critical perspectives of 9/11 outside of its curriculum and publications, the documentary, "9/11 in the Academic Community" is of particular importance and will be screened at this event.

Official Event Information:

Event Title: "9/11: Are Our Universities Failing Us?"
Date and Time: Tuesday, September 11, 2012, 7 pm
Location: Koffler House, Room 108, 569 Spadina Avenue (on the East side), University of Toronto
Admission: $12 - tickets can be purchased through the UofT Tix Box Office
Please encourage students, teachers and professors to attend this presentation.

By Adnan Zuberi
Member of the Toronto Hearings Steering Committee
and Director and Producer of Documentary, "9/11 in the Academic Community".

-
http://www.911blogger.com/news/2012-09- ... iversities

===

New 9/11 truth documentary among "most watched" on PBS this week
By Victoria N. Alexander
Sep 3, 2012

"9/11: Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out" is getting public attention and casting doubt on the scientific validity of the U.S. government's investigation into the WTC tragedy. PBS is the first major network to air the program.

Just days away from the 11th anniversary of the World Trade Center tragedy and months away from the U.S. presidential election, a game-changing 9/11 documentary is ranking number three among "most watched" documentaries on PBS and number one among "most shared." Available for free online August 18th - September 4th, the documentary could have a significant effect on public opinion. Both the Republicans and Democrats, as equally staunch defenders of the official story, stand to be affected if the public's suspicion of government corruption grows deeper.

An earlier report on Digital Journal found that the claims made in the documentary can be verified by reading the government reports themselves. The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), the government agency charged with the investigation, did not provide any data -- no measurements or estimates -- of the mass or energy that would be required to bring down the buildings in about ten seconds. Normally a scientific report would present all the data that is used to construct a theory. The omission of data is a red flag to any one familiar with scientific procedure. It appears that the investigators may have intentionally produced reports that the scientific community would reject.

According to the experts appearing in Explosive Evidence, the scientific community did reject the reports immediately, but it has taken a very long time for this message to reach the public. Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, the producers of the documentary, have been trying to educate the public for a number of years. The PBS broadcast of their work represents a major step forward for them.

While most people have probably heard that a scientific investigation has been conducted and that the building collapses were explained, few have probably looked at the NIST reports themselves. Links to the NIST reports can be found in the above mentioned Digital Journal article. NIST provides no data whatsoever on the actual collapse sequence itself.

The new attention to the issue could be significant for the U.S. presidential election. Prior to the publication of the reports in 2005 and 2008, almost half the population was suspicious of the official story of 9/11, according to several opinion polls.

The 9/11 tragedy has been used to direct the policies that have led to the enormous increases in military spending and to a loss of civil liberties in the U.S. and worldwide. As the public becomes aware that the official story has not been given any scientific validation, voters may become more interested in Governor Gary Johnson (Libertarian Party) and Dr. Jill Stein (Green Party), who are currently running for U.S. President, in third and fourth places respectively, against Barack Obama and Mitt Romney. Both Johnson and Stein represent themselves as anti-war candidates and defenders of civil liberties.

Victoria N. Alexander, PhD is a philosopher of science.
-
http://www.911blogger.com/news/2012-09- ... d-pbs-week

===

11th Anniversary Letters at the Journal of 9/11 Studies

For the 11th anniversary of September 11, we at the Journal of 9/11 Studies would like to share a series of letters from thoughtful people who have reflected on the tragic events of that day. Five letters are being published today, from the following individuals.

Lorie Van Auken is a founding member of the 9/11 Family Steering Committee. Without her dedication there would never have been a 9/11 Commission investigation.

Gregg Fishman is Secretary of the World Trade Center Rescuers Foundation. Like others he represents, Gregg risked his life and health in an attempt to rescue and recover victims following the destruction of the World Trade Center buildings.

Father Frank Morales is an Episcopal priest, activist, and author from New York City. He was present at Ground Zero shortly after the 9/11 events, offering prayers for the victims and support for the first responders.

David Johnson is Professor Emeritus of Urban and Regional Planning at the University of Tennessee. Dr. Johnson served as a panelist at the Toronto Hearings on the tenth anniversary of 9/11.

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal. He has investigated the events of September 11, 2001 and his writings on that and other subjects have attracted a worldwide following.

A similar number of letters from other contributors will be published later this week. We hope that the words and sacrifice of these great people will make a difference on the anniversary of 9/11 and into the future.

Sincerely, Graeme MacQueen and Kevin Ryan, co-editors
-
http://www.911blogger.com/news/2012-09- ... 11-studies
George Carlin ~ "Its called 'The American Dream', because you have to be asleep to believe it."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q
User avatar
2012 Countdown
 
Posts: 2293
Joined: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:27 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: 11 Years After 11...

Postby 2012 Countdown » Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:46 am

Too bad the OP title isn't '11 years after 9/11' (for clarity, and not employing the cutesy numbers game). Oh well...

9/11/2012 - Our Generation, Our Responsibility

It's been 11 years since nearly 3 thousand people were murdered that tragic day in New York City. Officially they say 19 Muslims hijacked planes and attacked us because they hate our freedoms. However, since 2001 there have been many questions that have been raised and not answered. The 9/11 Commission Report didn't even mention Building 7... Let alone provide any explanations. This movement was started by the victims' family members who had questions. Their loved ones were murdered... and they've never been given answers. It's time to demand those answers... It's time to unite together to demand justice.

So we're asking all of you.

COME TO NEW YORK THIS SEPTEMBER

If you can't make the trip, organize locally and pass out information. Remind people 9/11 truth is not dead. WE STILL HAVE QUESTIONS.

-


For more information please visit:
http://www.groundzero911.com

Video created by Hey We're Filming Here:
http://www.facebook.com/HeyWeAreFilmingHere
https://twitter.com/WeRfilmingHere

--
http://www.911blogger.com/news/2012-08- ... onsibility
George Carlin ~ "Its called 'The American Dream', because you have to be asleep to believe it."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q
User avatar
2012 Countdown
 
Posts: 2293
Joined: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:27 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: 11 Years After 11...

Postby chump » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:42 am

8bitagent wrote:But I must ask...when all is said or done, what were some of the more strange facts about 9/11 you uncovered?



Image
Image
User avatar
chump
 
Posts: 2261
Joined: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:28 pm
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: 11 Years After 11...

Postby 82_28 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:56 am

Image

Oh, wow. Interesting as hell. That's one detail I'd completely forgotten about. They went on and on and on about the "impossibly blue late summer skies" -- whilst a hurricane was barreling north just a few hundred miles off shore. Noting the inability to accurately predict where hurricanes go, had Erin situated itself a little further west, the gig would be up as all flights would have been grounded. Hmmmm. . .
There is no me. There is no you. There is all. There is no you. There is no me. And that is all. A profound acceptance of an enormous pageantry. A haunting certainty that the unifying principle of this universe is love. -- Propagandhi
User avatar
82_28
 
Posts: 11194
Joined: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:34 am
Location: North of Queen Anne
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: 11 Years After 11...

Postby 2012 Countdown » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:06 pm

82_28 wrote:Oh, wow. Interesting as hell. That's one detail I'd completely forgotten about. They went on and on and on about the "impossibly blue late summer skies" -- whilst a hurricane was barreling north just a few hundred miles off shore. Noting the inability to accurately predict where hurricanes go, had Erin situated itself a little further west, the gig would be up as all flights would have been grounded. Hmmmm. . .


Highly 'speculative', but one I would entertain as well. Yes, pure, clear skies as the storm sucked all the clouds into it offshore. Then, the very dramatic turn just on that date, to the opposite direction. We know about weather weapons/devices.

They needed that storm gone! ...anf the video clip of local wether report. If that was barreling toward the NE, there should have been hype and coverage to prepare for it. Nothing. Facinating.
George Carlin ~ "Its called 'The American Dream', because you have to be asleep to believe it."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q
User avatar
2012 Countdown
 
Posts: 2293
Joined: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:27 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: 11 Years After 11...

Postby 82_28 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:16 pm

2012 Countdown wrote:
82_28 wrote:Oh, wow. Interesting as hell. That's one detail I'd completely forgotten about. They went on and on and on about the "impossibly blue late summer skies" -- whilst a hurricane was barreling north just a few hundred miles off shore. Noting the inability to accurately predict where hurricanes go, had Erin situated itself a little further west, the gig would be up as all flights would have been grounded. Hmmmm. . .


Highly 'speculative', but one I would entertain as well. Yes, pure, clear skies as the storm sucked all the clouds into it offshore. Then, the very dramatic turn just on that date, to the opposite direction. We know about weather weapons/devices.

They needed that storm gone! ...anf the video clip of local wether report. If that was barreling toward the NE, there should have been hype and coverage to prepare for it. Nothing. Facinating.


But, this assuming that 9/11 was the date chosen for well hatched plans and gives lie to the idea that it truly was CD. This has simply opened up a whole new can of worms in my head. How could they possibly have pulled it off with so much uncertainty on the infamous date and number? All the players in place and ready to go, presumably weeks beforehand. Yet just days beforehand they wouldn't know if Erin was gonna score a direct hit on the NYC metro area. The plan, the mystique of 911 would be gone. Hmmm. . .
There is no me. There is no you. There is all. There is no you. There is no me. And that is all. A profound acceptance of an enormous pageantry. A haunting certainty that the unifying principle of this universe is love. -- Propagandhi
User avatar
82_28
 
Posts: 11194
Joined: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:34 am
Location: North of Queen Anne
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: 11 Years After 11...

Postby 2012 Countdown » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:29 pm

Not sure I am understanding why the idea of steering the storm thows a monkey wrench in CD. Its fine. As you say, all this stuff was in place. That pesky storm had to get out of here, and they knew just how to get rid of it, hence no weather report storm hype. They knew it wouldn't be an issue.
George Carlin ~ "Its called 'The American Dream', because you have to be asleep to believe it."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q
User avatar
2012 Countdown
 
Posts: 2293
Joined: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:27 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: 11 Years After 11...

Postby 82_28 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:31 pm

The sudden death from lung cancer for Peter Jennings. I remember saying to friends and family in the day, that Peter Jennings alone kept me calm.

September 11

Jennings anchored ABC's coverage of the September 11 attacks for seventeen straight hours, an effort described as "Herculean" by television critics.[72] Like other network news anchors, he was widely praised for guiding Americans through the tragedy. At one point, Jennings broke his composure after receiving phone calls from his children. "We do not very often make recommendations for people's behavior from this chair," he said, "but...if you're a parent, you've got a kid in some other part of the country, call them up. Exchange observations."[73][74]

His coverage was not without controversy though. After conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh criticized Jennings for supposedly denigrating President George W. Bush on-air during September 11, ABC was flooded with more than 10,000 angry phone calls and e-mails. Jennings, however, never made the remarks, and Limbaugh later apologized and made a retraction.[75] On September 13, Jennings received more criticism from conservatives — this time for hosting a forum for Middle East experts that included his former girlfriend, Hanan Ashrawi.[76] In the summer of 2002, Jennings and ABC refused to allow Toby Keith to open their coverage of July 4 celebrations with "Courtesy of the Red, White, & Blue", prompting criticism from Keith and country music fans, who highlighted the anchor's Canadian citizenship.[77]

The events of September 11 added new meaning to In Search of America, the project Jennings and Brewster started after the success of their previous collaboration. The two began writing the book in early 2001; after the terrorist attacks, they revisited many of the people they had interviewed to see how the events had affected them.[78] To promote the book, the anchor and World News Tonight started a 50-state tour of the United States in April 2002 as part of a yearlong project, 50 States/One Nation/One Year. Jennings also anchored a six-part television series in September 2002, which featured the same name as the book. Despite the success of the TV series and heavy promotion by the book's publisher, In Search of America failed to generate much interest or sales.[79]

His work on In Search of America and the September 11 attacks contributed to his decision in 2003 to become a dual citizen of Canada and the United States. "I think that 9/11 and the subsequent travel I did in the country afterwards made me feel connected in new ways," he said. "And when we were working on the America project I spent a lot of time on the road, which meant away from my editor's desk, and I just got much more connected to the Founding Fathers' dreams and ideas for the future."[80] His work had prepared him well for the citizenship test, which he easily passed. "Can you imagine I, who just finished a whole series on America and had been an anchorperson for an American broadcast...could you imagine if I had failed?" he asked. "It would have been horrendous."[81] The anchor's formal pledge of allegiance took place at a regular citizenship ceremony on May 30 in Lower Manhattan. The occasion overwhelmed him. "I went in the front door and came out the front door. They were regular people. They were very touching. And I cried a little bit — my kids didn't cry, but I cried a bit — but I'm a fairly emotional character anyway."[80]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Jennings
There is no me. There is no you. There is all. There is no you. There is no me. And that is all. A profound acceptance of an enormous pageantry. A haunting certainty that the unifying principle of this universe is love. -- Propagandhi
User avatar
82_28
 
Posts: 11194
Joined: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:34 am
Location: North of Queen Anne
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: 11 Years After 11...

Postby Luther Blissett » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:42 pm

8bit, we seriously have to do that interactive map / timeline someday.
The Rich and the Corporate remain in their hundred-year fever visions of Bolsheviks taking their stuff - JackRiddler
User avatar
Luther Blissett
 
Posts: 4990
Joined: Fri Jan 02, 2009 1:31 pm
Location: Philadelphia
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: 11 Years After 11...

Postby 82_28 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:44 pm

2012 Countdown wrote:Not sure I am understanding why the idea of steering the storm thows a monkey wrench in CD. Its fine. As you say, all this stuff was in place. That pesky storm had to get out of here, and they knew just how to get rid of it, hence no weather report storm hype. They knew it wouldn't be an issue.


I am saying that the presence of this storm "militates" for the likelihood of CD. And also for the ability to steer it away from the east coast. The plans being hatched as they were couldn't go wrong and assuming that there ARE NOT capabilities of steering hurricanes and other forms of weather control, assuming, then the buildings would have had to be wired for demo -- if, assuming, the date of 9/11/2001 was of some occult significance to those who planned it given the assumed uncertainty of the path a hurricane takes.

There's a lot of assumptions in there, I know. And I am a firm "inside job" kinda guy. But this Erin thing has really got me to thinking in some different angles now.
There is no me. There is no you. There is all. There is no you. There is no me. And that is all. A profound acceptance of an enormous pageantry. A haunting certainty that the unifying principle of this universe is love. -- Propagandhi
User avatar
82_28
 
Posts: 11194
Joined: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:34 am
Location: North of Queen Anne
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: never not funny

Postby happenstance » Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:54 pm

IanEye wrote:1111


Whoa, why the posting of the latest Never Not Funny episode, may I ask? Besides the numeric similarity?
happenstance
 
Posts: 115
Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:23 pm
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: 11 Years After 11...

Postby 8bitagent » Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:06 pm

82_28 wrote:

Oh, wow. Interesting as hell. That's one detail I'd completely forgotten about. They went on and on and on about the "impossibly blue late summer skies" -- whilst a hurricane was barreling north just a few hundred miles off shore. Noting the inability to accurately predict where hurricanes go, had Erin situated itself a little further west, the gig would be up as all flights would have been grounded. Hmmmm. . .


WOW. Also thanks to Slump. Years of arm chair 9/11 research Kevin Fenton style, never once heard of Hurricane Erin. Just the Summer of Sharks/Missing Intern(and here in Sacramento on 9/9/2001, the Pinkteron security firm massacre)

Part of the legend of 9/11 is of course the "amazing clear blue skies". "It was a clear blue tuesday".
Had hurricane Erin came up toward NYC, it woulda been bad news for those wanting a sad tragic day to occur.

My own hunch/theory/assertion is that not all went planned. Despite my gripes, I do consider myself a "truther". However I 100% believe the "official yarn" that passengers got riled up and had a hand in bringing down Flight 93. I dont believe there was a missile or anything of the sort. I mean if 9/11 is suppose to be an "inside job", why would it be shot down? Had Flight 93 slammed into the capitol as planned, oh man. The shit storm really would have been brought down. However, I see the passenger revolt of 93 not as the "first strike in the war on terror", but the fucking up of globalist plans.

In regard to the planning of 9/11, I strongly believe there were two layers. The "meta" play Peter Dael Scott touches on, whereby many of the actors are unaware of the other actors.
Think opening to the Dark Knight. I do not believe that ultimately "al Qaeda"(OBM/KSM/RBAS/Atta/etc) were the main brains or engine behind it, as much as they were lead to think they were.
But I am not convinced at all 9/11 was an "inside job" in terms of Cheney/Pentagon/CIA/Silverstein. I tend to think they were at once perplexed/scared yet at once joyously excited at this mysterious gift brought to them. An early Christmas present that was a golden goose egg that would keep on giving.

But...who was this mysterious stranger bearing gifts? That is the question. If al Qaeda foot soldiers were the gullible windup toys, and Israeli agents were shadowing them, with Saudi and ISI creepers providing logistics and the CIA and FBI with the *engineered* and purposeful "wall"...who was the one truly stage managing it, creating this tower of Babel?

To think, a hurricane could have f'd everything up. (I dont subscribe to HAARP theories, but who knows)



*EDIT*


More odd facts...


21. Credit cards some of the hijackers were using in 2001 ended up *still* being used up to two weeks later

22. The morning of 9/11, as the hijackers were already in the skies, one of the maids at the hotel was said to have been shooed away from an unknown man still occupying one of the rooms the hijackers stayed in.

23. Some of the hijackers were only a couple miles from where George W Bush would sleep in Florida not long before 9/11

24. Some witnesses claim that they saw the 9/11 hijacker suspects hanging out with some airport/tarmac crew employees

25. Early reports indicated the weapons used were preplanted behind or under the seats the hijackers used

26. One of the suspects who helped the hijackers at the airport(Mohdar Abdullah, a Yemeni) somehow was released despite video of him and several of the suspects

27. Strange reports of white vans darting around NYC and NJ with reportedly Israeli men. One group of which was reportedly joyful as they saw the attack at the WTC unfold. These men would later say they were "there to document the event" and some CIA analysts spoke candidly of possible Israeli shadowing of the hijackers

28. During the summer of 2001, Israeli art students were using whirly copter toy kiosks at malls and door to door soliciting at US military bases as possible cover for spying

29. A man named Rocky Hammad was caught up in part of a DMV scam in Memphis. He and his cohorts allegedly had WTC building maintenance crew badges. And the woman who helped them was found killed in a burned out car, and another man with a pipe bombs trapped to him. Rocky worked for a Ukranian mob/pedo/arms/narco linked plumber outfit in New York.

30. Allegedly, the Dentist(dr David Graham) had come in contact with two of the alleged 9/11 hijackers.
Last edited by 8bitagent on Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:16 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"Do you know who I am? I am the arm, and I sound like this..."-man from another place, twin peaks fire walk with me
User avatar
8bitagent
 
Posts: 12243
Joined: Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:49 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

Next

Return to General Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 46 guests