Strange mass murder in France

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Re: Strange mass murder in France

Postby semper occultus » Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:38 am

Former soldier questioned over French Alps massacre dies in suspected suicide

Former marksman, who has not been named, leaves note saying he was 'made to feel like a suspect' over the murders of three members of the Al-Hilli family

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Saad al-Hilli, his wife Iqbal and Mrs Hilli’s 77-year-old mother were all shot dead in a ruthlessly efficient execution-style killing inside their family car Photo: JULIAN SIMMONDS


By Keith Perry
11:20PM BST 03 Jun 2014

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/10873844/Former-soldier-questioned-over-French-Alps-massacre-dies-in-suspected-suicide.html

A former French soldier interviewed by police over the murder of a British family in the French Alps, has been found dead following an apparent suicide.

The man, who has not been named, had been questioned by detectives investigating the murder near Annecy of three members of the Al-Hilli family, from Surrey.

French newspaper Dauphine Libere said the former parachutist and trained marksman who served in the Foreign Legion, left a ‘six or seven page note’ saying he was ‘disturbed’ by the questioning because it ‘made him feel like a suspect’, said Eric Maillaud, the prosecutor in Annecy, eastern France.

Sylvain Mollier, a French cyclist, was also shot dead in the attack, which took place close to the nearby village of Chevaline, in September 2012.

There has been speculation that Mr Mollier, 45, was the main target, and that several gunmen could have been responsible although the French police have revealed little about his life.

The French newspaper said that the dead man was from the village of Ugine, where Mr Mollier lived with his girlfriend.

Mr Maillaud told AFP, that the former soldier had "left a note of six or seven pages in which he said he was disturbed by the questioning. He felt accused".

"It does not make this the main or sole reason for his action," added Mr Maillaud.

The unnamed former Legionnaire and paratrooper, who was 50 years old, was found dead at his home in Ugine on Tuesday afternoon, apparently shot dead. An investigation into his death has been launched.

Mr Maillaud confirmed that the man was "questioned for two hours in April 2013", mainly because he was “linked to Mr Mollier's family”.

He was not considered a suspect in the case, said Mr Maillaud.

Firearms were found in his home, according to the newspaper.

The paper said the ‘violent death’ would “intrigue investigators”, and would lead to ‘further investigations to make sure nothing was overlooked’.

Eric Devouassoux, a former policeman, was arrested over the killings in February and was held for four days.

Mr Devouassoux, a gun collector, is still being investigated for arms trafficking, but there has been no further legal action against him linked to the four murders.

Zaid Al-Hilli, a Surrey financial controller who is related to three of the victims, was the first suspect arrested in 2013.

However, Mr Al-Hilli was in Worthing, West Sussex, on the day of the murder providing him with an alibi.

He believes Mollier was the real target, saying last October: “They are covering up for someone in France in that region and they know it. There is something more to it locally.”

Mr Al-Hilli, 54, has been told by Surrey police that there is not enough evidence to charge him with the killing of his brother Saad, 50.

Mr Al-Hilli was shot dead alongside his wife Iqbal, 47, his mother-in-law Suhaila Al-Allaf, 74, and Mr Mollier.

The Al-Hilli couple's daughters, Zainab, seven, and Zeena, four, survived the attack and are currently in the care of other family members.
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Re: Strange mass murder in France

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:22 am

The paper said the ‘violent death’ would “intrigue investigators”, and would lead to ‘further investigations to make sure nothing was overlooked’.


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Re: Strange mass murder in France

Postby semper occultus » Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:37 am

EXCLUSIVE: The secret American husband of British mother slaughtered in French Alps massacre - who died on the SAME DAY - may have been killed 'by poison', fear his family

Al-Hilli family were gunned down near Lake Annecy, France, in 2012

Saad Al-Hilli, his wife Iqbal and her mother Suhaila al-Allaf were shot dead

Case has baffled detectives - but now investigator reveals 'family secret'

Mrs Al-Hilli was married to U.S. worker James Thompson in 1999, police said

He died on September 5 2012 - the same day as the Al-Hillis were murdered

His family told MailOnline they suspect foul play and that FBI even asked last year to exhume his body


By Daniel Bates and Peter Allen
Published: 11:25, 8 July 2014 | Updated: 21:29, 8 July 2014

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2684400/Al-Hilli-Alps-muirder-Police-investigating-deaths-British-family-shot-French-Alps-reveal-wife-secret-ex-husband-died-America-day.html

Relatives of the ‘secret ex-husband’ of the British woman who was shot dead in the Alps along with her husband fear he may have been poisoned, his family told MailOnline today.
The family of James Thompson think that there could have been a conspiracy which led to his death at around the same time on the on the same day as Iqbal Al-Hilli, who was killed when her family's car was strafed with gunfire while on a camping trip in France on September 5 2012.

The case has sparked an international investigation but no killer has been identified during the last two years.
The claim came just hours after French police revealed the existence of Mrs Al-Hilli’s American husband for the first time in a bombshell announcement.
The official cause of death for Mr Thompson, from Natchez, Mississippi, was a heart attack at the age of 60 - but today French police sensationally claimed that his death is more than a freak coincidence.
And his family today told MailOnline that they believe foul play may well have been involved after the FBI became involved in the case last year.

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Short-lived: Thompson was married for only a year or so to Iqbal al-Hilli around 1999 - and is believed to have met through his relatives

So far neither the FBI nor the French police have revealed any proof that Mr Thompson was involved in the killings, but his daughter Joy Martinolich said that after Mrs Al-Hilli’s death her aunt and her brother believed that sinister forces could have been at play.

Miss Martinolich said: ‘If you wanted to kill somebody and get away with it you would do something that people would accept like a heart attack.
‘They would accept he was a bit overweight, that he had stress issues, he was pushing 60. It’s possible’.
It is not known if Mr Thompson was in contact with his former wife when he died or knew of her murder.

Miss Martinolich spoke to MailOnline as a senior French detective raised the possibility that the covert relationship may have provided a motive for the murders.
Mrs Al-Hilli, 47, and her husband Saad Al-Hilli, 50, were killed in the ruthless attack but their two daughters, Zainab, seven at the time, and Zeena, who was four, survived.

Also among the dead was Mrs Al-Hilli's mother Suhaila al-Allaf, 74, and French cyclist Sylvain Mollier, 45.
Benoit Vinnemann, one of the most senior police commanders working on the case, said Mrs Al-Hilli Al-Hilli was 'secretly married' to an American dentist 13 years her senior identified only as James T, between February 1999 and December 2000.

Miss Martinolich confirmed that the James T was her father but said that he was a former policeman and oil industry worker, not a dentist.


The official cause of death was a heart attack, said Lt Col Vinnemann, but 'we still haven't had a response to certain questions,' he added, saying that 'we have discovered some astonishing things.'
However, the family of Mr Thompson say they have had no contact with the French police and were completely unaware of Lt Col Vinnemann's announcement until it was made public.
They contacted the FBI this morning when they were alerted to the shocking French claims.

Miss Martinolich said: ‘My aunt Judy Weatherly said, in the middle of her grief, that someone had said something about a dart… She thought a couple of people had said something about poison, that this was not a heart attack’.


Speaking to MailOnline, Miss Weatherly said that the FBI approached the family last year to see if they wanted Mr Thompson’s body exhumed but they declined as they did not want to go through the renewed heartbreak.
Miss Weatherly said: ‘Jim died around 3pm on the same day as Iqbal.
‘There was some speculation that somehow he might have been poisoned. Joshua (Mr Thompson’s son) had a visitation from him and he showed him a little brown bottle. He came to him in a dream and said he was poisoned’.
The attack on the Al-Hillis, of Claygate, Surrey, has left investigators in France perplexed as to who could have carried it even nearly two years on.
The family originally came from Iraq, and one theory is that their links to the regime of former dictator Saddam Hussein may be a reason for their murders.

There have also been claims that Mr Al-Hilli was involved in a dispute over a family inheritance with his brother Zaid Al-Hilli, 54, of Chessington, Surrey.
He was last year arrested under suspicion of conspiracy to murder but then released because of a complete lack of evidence.
The revelation about Mr Thompson provides a window into Mrs Al-Hilli’s past and raises the possibility that she could have been the target, not her husband.
Miss Martinolich, 38, said that Mrs Al-Hilli came to America because she wanted a new life for herself and saw her father as the way to do it.
Miss Martinolich said: ‘My father married her to help her get a green card. She was a friend of the family and my father met her through a cousin.

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Biker: Mr Thompson was a policeman and an oil contractor, among other work he carried out. His official cause of death was a heart attack

‘My father struck a deal with her. She got my dad a Honda.
‘She was a dentist but she had to go back to school and became a dental technician. She was better than a lot of the dentists but had to work under them.
‘My father used to brag that he had the best teeth in town. She lived in his house with his grandmother, his grandfather and his uncle. She would take care of people, she would buy everything that they needed. She would care take for him.

‘She was a virgin at 30 and my father knew that in her culture he could ask for her virginity, but he did not want to do that’.
Miss Martinolich described her father as a biker who liked to smoke cigars.
He and Mrs Al-Hilli stayed married for two or three years and then she left America.
Miss Weatherly described Mrs Al-Hilli was a ‘wonderful’ person who left the US because she got homesick, though they stayed in touch.

She said: ‘She wanted to start a family and her own family did not want her to marry out of their own culture’.
The attack on the Al-Hillis happened at 3.45pm on September 5 2012.
It is not clear if Mr Thompson was aware of the development when around 3pm local time in Natchez, some seven hours later, he came out of an antique shop and told a friend he was not feeling well.
Miss Martinolich said that her father complained to a friend he felt nausea, he asked for some aspirin then got in his car to go home.
He did not make it and stopped in the middle of the street a short distance away.

When paramedics found him his foot was in the brake, even though the car was in drive, which Miss Martinolich claimed was unusual.

She said that from her recollection of the events the family felt that the paramedics did not do as much as they could have, though she admitted they could have realised her father was already dead by the time they arrived.
Miss Martinolich said that is was ‘not so far fetched’ that something malevolent may have been at work.
She said: ‘If it was her (Mrs Al-Hilli) that they were after and it was something that she knew they would assume that any person, a husband, would have possibly known too’.
However, Miss Martinolich added: ‘They believed that something could have happened but from my point of view my father needed to take care of himself because he had a problem with blood pressure.
‘My father had high blood pressure. He didn’t go to the doctor….two days before he died he was with his best friend and they both had their blood pressure checked and his was extremely high. He took some aspirin.

‘I believe it was more or less health issues.’
Miss Martinolich said that her father was friends with local mob bosses but did not have any enemies.
She said: ‘Everybody loved my father’.
Revelations about the secret ex-husband emerged as police arrested a suspected Iraqi contract killer in connection with the murder.
Eric Maillaud, the Annecy prosecutor, said the unnamed Iraqi was investigated in connection with the crime close to the village of Chevaline following a tip off.
The ex-convict was wire-tapped 'following specific claim from another prisoner that he could have been involved in a contract to kill Iraqis ', said Mr Maillaud.
Home: Pictured is the Al-Hilli family's house in Claygate, Surrey, shortly after the incident
They looked into his background for more than a year-and-a-half while he was living in Belgium, and then arrested him in June when he briefly visited northern France.
He was placed in custody in Lille for three days before providing an alibi which cleared him of being directly involved in the shootings.
Mr Maillaud said: 'He denied any involvement in a contract whatsoever, and we could not establish a link with the Al-Hilli family', adding that the man was now serving time for unrelated offences.
Eric Devouassoux, a 48-year-old old former policeman from the Annecy area, was also arrested over the killings in February and spent four days in custody.
The gun collector is still being investigated for arms trafficking, but there has been no legal action linked to the four murders.
Investigators say that whoever carried out the crime is likely to be a trained marksman, and to know the local area extremely well.








Alps shootings: murdered woman's 'secret' ex-husband died on same day

Ex-husband of Iqbal al-Hilli died of a heart attack in the US on the same day as deadly 2012 attack in French Alps, police say

Anne Penketh in Paris The Guardian, Tuesday 8 July 2014 17.38 BST

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/08/saad-al-hilli-wife-secret-husband-french-alps-murder

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Lieutenant-Colonel Benoit Vinnemann said: 'We have found out some surprising things about Iqbal, and we still don’t have answers to some of the questions.' Photograph: Philippe Desmazes/AFP/Getty Images

The wife of British Iraqi-born engineer Saad al-Hilli, who was murdered with his family in the French Alps, had a "secret" American husband who died of a heart attack on the same day as the deadly attack, it emerged on Tuesday.

The revelation by French investigators adds a new twist to the murder mystery, which has thrown up a series of false leads since Hilli, his wife, Iqbal, and mother-in-law, Suhaila-al-Allaf, were shot dead along with a passing cyclist. Hilli's two daughters survived the attack at a layby on a wooded mountain road near Annecy on 5 September 2012.

"We have found out some surprising things about Iqbal, and we still don't have answers to some of the questions," said lead investigator Lieutenant-Colonel Benoit Vinnemann. Before marrying Hilli, Iqbal had never told her family about a US visit between February 1999 and December 2000 in which she married a dentist who was 13 years her senior. They divorced soon afterwards. Iqbal was herself a dentist. She met her second husband in Dubai a couple of years later.

The former husband, known only as James T, died on September 5 2012 in Natchez, Mississippi. The official cause of death was a heart attack.

"Is there a family secret that we haven't found? Does it concern Saad, or his wife Iqbal?" said Vinnemann.

In a further twist, the Annecy prosecutor, Eric Maillaud, said on Monday that a 35-year-old Iraqi had been placed under investigation last month on suspicion of carrying out a contract killing against Iraqis. However the man, who was not identified, had been released.

"He denied taking part in any contract whatsoever. He even denies the existence of this contract," Maillaud said. He added that investigators had been unable to establish any link with the Hilli family.

The Iraqi was the third person to be arrested in connection with the murders. Hilli's brother Zaid al-Hilli was arrested by British police who suspected a possible dispute with Saad over a family inheritance. However, he strongly denied any role in the murders and was subsequently released.

Then last February, French police appeared to have made a breakthrough by announcing the arrest of a 48-year-old Frenchman suspected of being the motorcyclist who had been spotted near the scene of the shootings. But he too was released although he continued to be questioned on unrelated arms possession offences.

The police have been puzzled by the weapon used in the shooting, which would appear to rule out a professional killing: a 7.65mm Lugar PO6 handgun, issued to the Swiss army and police in the 1920s and 1930s.

Hilli was staying in a caravan site in Annecy with his family when they decided to go on the fatal excursion to the village of Chevaline. One of his daughters was seriously hurt in the attack, while the other survived by hiding under the skirt of Iqbal al-Hilli, who was sitting in the back. The bodies were discovered by a British cyclist, Brett Martin.
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Re: Strange mass murder in France

Postby elfismiles » Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:08 am

Was reminded of this case / thread by this latest France multiple murder...

Tuesday, August 25, 2015
Roye Shooting Has Historical Illuminati Links

Today's, August 25, 2015 attack on a family in France has weird links to the past treatment of the Illuminati.

A gunman has killed three members of the same family – including a baby – and a police officer, during a shooting at a travellers’ camp in northeastern France.

The suspect, who is a member of the traveller community in the town of Roye, killed a six-month-old baby, a woman and a man believed to be a grandfather during the attack at 4:30 p.m. local time, near an Intermarche supermarket, according to police and a Paris prosecutor. Another child was injured.

Police who responded to the scene were greeted with gunfire. The shooter (allegedly drunk) seriously injured one 44-year-old officer – who later died - and slightly wounded another.

A police source said that the incident is understood to be a “criminal matter,” and not linked to terrorism.

Intriguingly, the camp's location (shown above) is directly tied to the history of the Illuminati.

READ THE REST HERE:
http://copycateffect.blogspot.com/2015/08/Roye.html
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Re: Strange mass murder in France

Postby cptmarginal » Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:00 pm

Speaking of multiple murders in France, I was just looking at this earlier today:

The Mysterious Murder of a Heroic Chemist Who Was (Probably) Also a Spy

In 1952, a vacationing British family of three was brutally shot and clubbed to death while camping roadside near the village of Lurs, on the banks of the Durance. The murders, for which a local farmer was convicted (but spared the guillotine), became known as “France’s crime of the century.” And its mysteries still intrigue.

The guilt of Gaston Dominici—whose son Gustave Dominici discovered the bodies of Sir Jack Drummond, his wife Anne, and 10-year-old Elizabeth—has been debated over the years. That kind of nagging doubt is not unusual for such a high-profile case, especially one with so many inconsistencies, as an article published to mark the crime’s 50-year anniversary in the Guardian noted:

What was Dominici’s motive? Where did the murder weapon, a battered US army Rock-Ola carbine, come from? What of the unidentified men seen on the road? And was Sir Jack, as Fleet Street soon began claiming, rather more than just an eminent scientist?

That last question in particular has inspired conspiracy theories galore over the years. Because who, exactly, was Sir Jack Drummond? On paper, he was a prominent, distinguished scientist whom the BBC referred to as “the nation’s top food chemist,” and who’d played an important role in World War II

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