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Postby cptmarginal » Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:28 pm

It's OK, I didn't really take it as such either :)

You make a good point, too. It's totally ludicrous that Smith would be investigated as part of the "third strand," unconnected to Jimmy Savile himself.

Here's another recent non-attributed BBC article given without comment, just for the warm fuzzy feeling it provides:

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-21936350

26 March 2013 Last updated at 07:40 ET

Police's Savile Yewtree inquiry 'has gone too far'

William De'Ath Mr De'Ath was arrested as part of the Operation Yewtree investigation

A former BBC producer who was accused of indecently assaulting a girl says the inquiry linked to the Jimmy Savile abuse scandal "has gone too far".

Wilfred De'Ath, from Cambridgeshire, spoke out after being told he will not face charges over the allegation, which dates back to the 1960s.

He said the Metropolitan Police were being "overzealous" and arresting people on "spurious" claims because they had "failed miserably" on Savile.

The Met Police has yet to respond.

'Failed to get him'

In an interview with BBC Radio 4's Today programme, Mr De'Ath, who is in his 70s, said his "pretty horrifying" arrest four-and-a-half months ago had involved seven police officers.

"I do realise they were only doing their job, but it seems to me they were overzealous," he said.

"They failed miserably in the case of Jimmy Savile. They failed to get him when they could have got him. And it seems to me they've gone too far the other way now and are arresting people on rather spurious allegations."

The Metropolitan Police's Operation Yewtree is looking into allegations that have arisen against the late BBC DJ and television presenter Savile since he died in 2011.

It has three strands - one is looking specifically at the actions of Savile and the second strand concerns allegations against "Savile and others".

The third strand relates to alleged complaints against other people unconnected to the Savile investigations.

Although he once produced a Savile radio show, Mr De'Ath's arrest was under this third strand.


Eleven people have been arrested under Operation Yewtree and he is the first suspect that the Crown Prosecution Service has made a decision on.

The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) said on Monday there was not enough evidence to charge Mr De'Ath after the complainant had withdrawn her statement.

Mr De'Ath , who has always maintained his innocence, said he had been questioned about an allegation that he had indecently assaulted a 14-year-old girl in the mid-1960s after inviting her to go to a press showing of a film.

He said that he had met the girl briefly at a party, but had never gone to the cinema with her or assaulted her.

'All womanisers'

Mr De'Ath was asked on Today about a previous claim that Savile had spent the night in a hotel with a girl who was probably 10-years-old.

Mr De'Ath said it had "never occurred " to him to go to the police.

"I did say to [Savile] 'I think you're living dangerously'," he said.

"I was pretty shocked and disgusted. Also, I was physically frightened of Savile. He had been a boxer and a wrestler and he was in with some very rough people.

"I would never have dreamed of grassing him up."

He said he "slightly regrets" not doing anything at the time but in the corridors of the BBC it was "common talk that he liked young girls".

It was a different culture in the 1950s and 1960s, he said, and "sexual matters were taken much more lightly".

"We were all womanisers in those days. But as far as I know womanising is not a criminal offence," he added.

"We were not paedophiles. You propositioned 100 women on the chance that two or three would say 'yes'."

Mr De'Ath said he was "full of self-loathing" because he had not acted over Savile but "you have to live with yourself".
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Postby cptmarginal » Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:55 pm

Anyone read anything about these two before? A quick search of the forum turned up nothing.

‘Essex Investigator’ on bringing paedophile Harry Day, who preyed on Dagenham boys, to justice

Given name: Henry Day (MBE/BEM recipent is erased from the register of the Order)

Wednesday, April 2, 2014

In the wake of the Jimmy Savile revelations and other high-profile historic sexual abuse cases, it is now more feasible the famous will be brought to account – but five years ago Dagenham was stunned when well-respected Harry Day MBE was jailed on paedophilia charges.

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Flashback to Day's conviction in 2009

Sam Blewett spoke to the man who helped break the case open.

The Post found the Essex Investigator – a name he uses for fear of reprisals – in the back of a shabby-looking van covered in builder’s branding.

But appearances can be deceptive.

The investigator was in the midst of a 16-hour surveillance session. And that “builder’s” van contains £70,000 of equipment, including seven CCTV cameras that spy on the outside world.

“A guy came to us with historic child abuse claims,” the investigator said. “He had been abused as a child and he 
believed others had been too.

“We spent six months chasing everyone who had ever been at this huge organisation [the Young Citizens Guild] and we managed to locate potential victims.

“I tracked down every person who’d been to the club since it was started in 1957.

“We found these people right across Europe. Some of the alleged victims had gone as far as Australia.”

The offender was Harry Day, of North Walsham, Norfolk – and in 2009, he was jailed for 13 years on child abuse charges.

The crimes related to eight boys, including some from 
Dagenham, who went to the Young Citizens Guild summer camps in Hemsby, Norfolk, between 1973 and 1995.

Day was convicted of 18 charges of indecent assault, two of 
incitement and one of perverting the course of justice after 
allegedly contacting a witness during the case.

He denied all the charges.

Judge Simon Barham, who presided over Day’s trial, said when passing sentence, that the 
offender was systematic, carefully choosing his victims. Often they were vulnerable.

After the trial the first victim to come forward spoke of how his life was ruined.

He told reporters he had alcohol and drug problems and his marriage had failed as he struggled to cope with what had been done to him.

Day started the youth group with the aim of helping children become responsible members of society, and he was courted by both police chiefs and royalty.

It’s hardly surprising the victim did not come forward sooner – but if he hadn’t the truth may never have seen the light of day.

This isn’t uncommon in the Essex Investigator’s line of work.

“We often do criminal stuff where the police may have failed,” he said, “or they might have a lack of resources.”

He thinks the Day case had widespread implications.

“Not long after that we heard about Jimmy Savile and the others,” he said. “I believe that was linked.

“It was the first time we had a person who was an MBE involved in child abuse.

“As long as that guy’s rotting in prison, I’m happy.”


And then Chris Dobson:

Charities reject large bequests from dead Burnham paedophile

Posted: April 03, 2014

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Chris Dobson fundraising for the RNLI

A number of high-profile charities have rejected bequests left in the will of dead Burnham paedophile Chris Dobson.

Local teacher and fundraiser Chris Dobson died on December 15, 2012, leaving a stash of child pornography at his home which was discovered by potential buyers.

In his will he left a host of charities the majority of his £500,000 estate and lawyers at Slater & Gordon have revealed one victim has contacted them seeking reparations.

The Chronicle revealed in January how police were investigating Dobson fearing the 70-year-old had exploited his position in the community to commit “multiple serious criminal offences against children over a number of years.”

A copy of his will, signed in 1996 at Wortley, Redmayne & Kershaw solicitors, revealed that a number of individuals and organisations will receive sums of money.

The biggest beneficiary, the Royal National Lifeboat Institution (RNLI), which Dobson fundraised for extensively, was due to receive a sum of an estimated £212,451 they rejected the bequest saying simply that they had decided to decline.

Dobson also donated sums of an estimated £106,226 to the Erin Arts Centre on the Isle of Man and to Christian Aid in his will.

A Christian Aid spokesperson said: “Christian Aid is aware of the circumstances surrounding the bequest made by Mr Dobson.

“In the light of information we received, we have obtained legal advice as to our position and today a meeting of our Board of Trustees decided that Christian Aid will not accept the money.

“Our decision with regard to the legacy was not taken lightly.

“Obviously a great deal could be done with £100,000 to help those living in extreme poverty. However, the board recognised that there were serious business and reputational risks if we were to accept this money.”

The Erin Arts centre has indicated that they have not made a decision on what to do with their bequest.

A spokesman said: “The Directors of the Erin Arts Centre remain very conscious of the sensitivities associated with this legacy and legal advice is ongoing.”

The Isle of Man Steam Railway Supporters’ Association were left a legacy of £1,000 but have decided to reject the money they were offered.

The association stated: “As a result of the recent revelations concerning Mr Dobson, the board have met and decided not to accept the legacy.

“The board would rather the moneys went to helping Mr Dobson’s victims.”

Christopher Dobson had lived alone in Chapel Road but had previously lived with his mum.

His health took a dramatic decline after suffering from Alzheimer’s disease before he passed away in December 2012.

Detectives from the Kent and Essex Serious Crime Directorate launched their investigation in August last year and have been interviewing neighbours and working to identify Dobson’s victims.

Alan Collins a lawyer at Slater & Gordon, has represented a number of Jimmy Savile’s victims, and has been contacted by one of Chris Dobson’s victims after reading the story that the Chronicle broke back in January.

“We have been contacted by one person as a result of the coverage of the Essex Chronicle and we now represent that client who will be seeking reparations from Mr Dobson’s estate,” he said.

“We hope that his estate will save a number of stressful court dates and settle out of court but if they are not content then we will have to take the issue further.

“If there are any other victims out there then they need to think carefully about the reparations that can receive – and then act quickly because once the money has gone its gone.”


Exposed as a paedophile: Indecent images discovered at Chris Dobson's Burnham home by potential buyers

Posted: January 30, 2014

By Will Watkinson

A RESPECTED primary school teacher, scout leader and charity fundraiser has been revealed as a serial paedophile after he died – leaving a stash of indecent images of children at his home and multiple victims.

Chris Dobson, 70, died in December 2012 before the horde of indecent pictures were discovered by the potential buyers of his property in Chapel Road, Burnham-on-Crouch.

The former Chelmsford City FC goalkeeper and manager of a junior team at Burnham Ramblers football club was also heavily involved with fundraising at the town's Royal National Lifeboat Institution, as well as being a teacher at Burnham-on-Crouch Primary School.

In an exclusive interview, Detective Chief Inspector Mark Hall said: "We believe that Christopher Dobson committed multiple serious criminal offences against children over a number of years.

"Despite his death we still want to establish the full extent of the offending that took place and would like to speak to victims.

"We are investigating how he engaged with victims to fully understand the nature of his offending, the full extent of his offending and how he was able to commit the offences he did."

After his death his next of kin had attempted to sell his house but when the prospective owners began cleaning they found incriminating evidence and alerted police.

Detectives from the Kent and Essex Serious Crime Directorate launched their investigation in August last year and have been interviewing neighbours and working to identify victims.

The inquiry is ongoing.

Police have been working with the Public Protection Council and the Child Abuse investigation team to look at his offending, which took place over a number of years.

DCI Hall indicated that although this was a "complex" investigation there is no evidence to suggest other offenders were involved.

"He lived locally for a number of years and we believe that he was well known in the community," DCI Hall told the Chronicle.

"We are interested in speaking to those that may have known him and have relevant information."

Christopher Dobson lived alone but had previously lived with his mum. His health took a dramatic decline after suffering from Alzheimer's disease before he passed away.

Jim Gibson, 72, from Burnham, took over the Burnham Ramblers Junior football team that Mr Dobson gave up because of difficulties with older children.

Mr Gibson said: "This news is truly shocking and disturbing. I knew him for 30 years. It's very sad really, I know that a lot of people will remember him for all of the good work he has done.

"He always gave 100 per cent into his football or the RNLI. I took over from him because he almost had a mental breakdown dealing with the older boys. He trained my children and nothing about his behaviour seemed odd. I'm speechless."

DCI Hall added: "We want to reassure anyone that has been affected that we will be able to put them in contact with specialist agencies and offer long-term support."

As the police investigation continues, DCI Hall was reluctant to reveal information about the types of images, where offences had taken place and the number and locations of victims.

DCI Hall added: "We would encourage people against speculation, particularly on social media, because this would be in breach of the law if any victims or possible victims were identified."
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Re: Jimmy Savile: I'd like to comment but I can't...

Postby cptmarginal » Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:46 pm

I'm well aware that my last post could have gone in, say, the "Pedophile File" thread rather than this one. Or that Harry Day and his Young Citizens Guild might be related to the PIE organization, and so could be posted in the thread dedicated to that topic. But frankly, it seems just as appropriate here. So here's another person that reminds me of Sir James Wilson Vincent "Jimmy" Savile, OBE, KCSG and his Friday Morning Club:

‘I’m furious my abuser died before he could face court’

Published on the 07 April 2014

A WOMAN has told of her anger following her stepfather’s death days before he was due to appear in court charged with sexually abusing her as a child.

Lisa Golds learnt Ronald Trippier – a retired Hampshire police chief inspector – died on the eve of his court appearance after her mum read about it in The News.

Grandmother Mrs Golds contacted police in October – more than 30 years after she says she was abused by 87-year-old Trippier – in the wake of the Jimmy Savile scandal.

Now the 50-year-old from the Portsmouth area, has waived her right to anonymity in a bid to alert others and encourage more victims to speak out.

Telling of the moment she learnt of her stepfather’s death, Mrs Golds told The News: ‘I was really shocked and angry.

‘I was absolutely furious because I wanted him to go to court.

‘I wanted people to know that he was a chief inspector in the police and it doesn’t matter how old he is, he can’t get away with it.

‘Why shouldn’t he become accountable for his actions?

She added: ‘It does affect me.

‘It has periodically affected me over my life.

‘You live your day-to-day life as it is, getting on with work and home but there are low periods and I have suffered from depression for many years.’

Trippier, of Northern Parade, Portsmouth, was facing four charges.

He was accused of three counts of indecently assaulting Mrs Golds, who was aged under 16 at the time, between 1973 and 1977.

Trippier, who served as a police officer in Totton, had also been charged with one count of gross indecency.

He was due to appear at Southampton Magistrates’ Court on two previous occasions, in February and then March.

But on each occasion the case was adjourned.

Trippier died on March 19 – nine days before he was due to appear at the court.

Mrs Golds added: ‘Since the Jimmy Savile thing came out I had it in the back of my mind that I wanted to contact the police.

‘I’ve always wanted to do it but I’ve always known in the past that he had a lot of clout being a chief inspector and I thought I would never be believed.


Again:

Savile’s friendship with officers in his local town was well known and never hidden. He hosted a Friday Morning Club, a gathering of male friends once a week at his bachelor pad overlooking Roundhay Park in Leeds. The club is described as “legendary” in an authorised biography of Savile, written by a local newspaper journalist and friend, Alison Bellamy. According to her book, regulars at the Friday Morning Club, which ran for almost 20 years and which she attended on two occasions, included a Leeds hairdresser, a retired pharmacist and two police officers – Mick Starkey, an inspector who would regularly drive Savile in his Rolls-Royce, and Matthew Appleyard, a sergeant serving at Wetherby police station. There is no suggestion that either of these two men are the ones referred to in the Surrey report. Nor is there necessarily any truth in Savile’s claim that “officers read and destroyed” possible blackmail letters. One friend of Savile’s has suggested in the past that three quarters of the club’s members were police.
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Postby cptmarginal » Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:48 pm

semper occultus » Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:28 am wrote:Image

In his statement, the education secretary named the following institutions:

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Care home - name unknown - Islington, north London


Much of this article is a rehash of things already posted here, but it still merits some attention:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... ng-up.html

Jimmy Savile sex abuse: 'Islington is still covering up'

Two decades on from her expose of sexual abuse in children's homes, Eileen Fairweather talks to the survivors too scared to go public

By Eileen Fairweather

7:00AM BST 06 Apr 2014

The man’s messages to the little girl sounded sweet. He reminded her that he was the friendly volunteer from the hospital, said he missed his poppet and hoped she’d write back. I found his messages online in a forum abroad for sick children. I don’t know if the child replied to him, and cannot now check, because the disease that hospitalised her has killed her. But I desperately hoped she never answered – this cheery guy is an alleged serial child rapist.

This has been claimed by three traumatised women who once lived in a now-notorious Islington children’s home. The man was allowed to take them for “outings” to the park and an Islington worker’s nearby flat. There he allegedly abused them while the others were forced to watch. The youngest was five. The man is also suspected of procuring little girls from the home for Jimmy Savile.

Michael Gove, the Education Secretary, announced in the Commons last month that the Metropolitan Police has identified 21 special schools and children’s homes in which Savile preyed on youngsters. Mr Gove named most, but said that the Islington home’s identity is unknown. I know its name, and suspect that Islington Council guesses it. Mr Gove trustingly asked the north-London council, exposed in the 1990s for employing paedophiles, pimps and child pornographers at all 12 of its children’s homes, to identify it. But how can Islington be trusted to uncover its own cover-up?

The supposed mystery stems from a much larger cover-up by the then-Labour authority to protect the liberty of the evil and the reputations of the ambitious. Children – including dying little girls – are still in danger because few of the scores of perverts who infiltrated Islington’s care system between the Seventies and the Nineties have been brought to justice.

Instead, Islington shredded every incriminating file, sacked whistleblowers and smeared victims as mentally ill.

I worked on the London Evening Standard investigation that first exposed the Islington scandal. Along with a colleague, Stewart Payne, I spent three months in 1992 secretly interviewing terrified whistleblowing staff, parents and children before the newspaper published a damning investigation. It was promptly attacked by then-council leader Margaret Hodge as a “sensationalist piece of gutter journalism”. We were falsely accused of bribing children to make up their heartbreaking stories. Mrs Hodge has since apologised and explained that her officials lied to her.

But the Standard’s then editor, the late Stewart Steven, proved indomitable. He funded us to keep digging – for three long years.

The Standard’s dossiers of evidence generated 13 independent inquiries and won two British Press awards. The final, damning Ian White Report in 1995 responded to the newspaper’s 112-page dossier of evidence. Parents, children and staff reiterated to White the paper’s allegations – including that violent pimps openly collected children from the home, and were even allowed by staff to stay overnight in children’s rooms.

White, then director of Oxfordshire social services, confirmed that Islington allowed at least 26 workers facing “extremely serious allegations” to leave its employ without investigation. Staff accused of everything from rape to child prostitution had been allowed to resign, often with good references. He described Islington as a “classic study” in how paedophiles target children, aided by the council’s naive interpretation of gay rights. “Equal opportunities… became a positive disincentive for challenge to bad practice… and a great danger”.

He called for the 26 staff to be barred from childcare and investigated further, naming them in a confidential annexe. But almost none were. As the scandal raged, Islington destroyed records. Ian White confirmed that “this happened at assistant-director level”. He “found no evidence of collusion”. But he was not allowed to question Islington’s assistant director Lyn Cusack, or her staff.

Mrs Cusack was married to a local senior police officer, Detective Superintendent Don McKay. She resigned in November 1993, citing personal reasons. Days earlier, the Standard had alerted the Social Services Inspectorate to Islington losing evidence requested by three different police forces investigating child sex rings, and the linked Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE).

Islington was deeply influenced by and had many connection to the Paedophile Information Exchange. In the fatally naïve 1970s to mid 80s, PIE openly campaigned for sex to be legalised with children from age four, and for incest and child pornography to be legalised. The National Council for Civil Liberties - now Liberty - allowed it to affiliate and its then legal officer Harriet Harman wrote a paper effectively backing some PIE demands. The assumption in those “progressive” days was that paedophiles simply loved children and wanted to “liberate” their sexuality.

Mrs Harman, whose role has been exposed in recent media stories, has described Margaret Hodge as her best friend in Parliament. Mrs Hodge’s late husband, Henry Hodge, also an Islington Labour councillor, earlier chaired the National Council for Civil Liberties. It is unknown if they ever discussed PIE.

In 1985, Mrs Hodge announced that Islington Council would positively discriminate in favour of gay staff. It exempted self-declared gay men from background checks, and paedophiles pretending to be decent gay men cynically exploited this. It emerged that Islington deputy superintendent Michael Taylor was in PIE after he received a four-year prison sentence in July 2000 for abusing two boys at Islington’s Gisburne House in the Seventies.

PIE founding member, Peter Righton, then Britain’s top “expert” on children’s homes, had even founded a training course for residential workers. Paedophilia, he declared in one essay, was “no more bizarre than a penchant for redheads”.

At least one Islington abuse victim was placed – by a key member of the Islington abuse ring, Nick Rabet – at a special boarding school outside London with which Righton was closely involved. The victim haltingly disclosed his abuse to his Islington social worker, who was deeply concerned. But in 1989, the social worker vanished, supposedly carrying the victim’s files under his arm. When the Standard asked questions about the school, Islington denied ever sending any child there. It also lied about this to police.

The White Report said that the social worker’s disappearance should be investigated by police. But it never was. This recommendation was redacted from the censored version of the report that Islington published last year. But I still have the original and live in hope of one day tracing that social worker. My understanding is that he was “heavied” and fled abroad.

Police and social services inquiries into PIE were also abruptly shut down. This led to the senior child protection manager bravely blowing the whistle in 2012 to Tom Watson, whose PMQ about an establishment paedophile ring leading to No 10 silenced the Commons. PIE supplied children from homes to wealthy establishment figures. It was the ultimate cross-party crime, which many wanted buried.

Sue Akers was a detective inspector and head of Islington police’s Child Protection Team at the scandal’s height. I begged her to study the paper’s evidence and place a believed child brothel under surveillance. But she refused to meet me. The failure of Islington police to act on intelligence provided by a terrified 13-year-old who admitted recruiting dozens of named children for three pimps was criticised by a secret 1993 inquiry into “Boy A”. But it was suppressed. Akers became a deputy assistant commander, responsible for all Metropolitan Police child-abuse investigations.

Hodge’s successor, Derek Sawyer, ran the council between 1992 and 1994, when the abuse inquiries were set up, and became head of police and probation bodies, and chairman of the London Courts Board. In 2010, Sawyer’s partner in an international education business, Derek Slade, was imprisoned for 21 years for brutally abusing 12 boys at St George’s boarding school in Suffolk. There is no suggestion that Mr Sawyer knew his friend was a paedophile.

As the Islington scandal dragged on, many of the alleged offenders simply moved abroad to prey on even poorer children. Like Jimmy Savile – and the Joker, as I have come to think of the hospital volunteer I mentioned earlier – some accessed children through charity work.

For legal reasons we are unable to name the Joker and have concealed identifying details. The allegations against him were never examined, and it is possible that they are false or result from the confused memories of young children. The Standard was similarly unable at first to name any of the alleged child abusers on Islington’s payroll. But that changed when key ringleaders were arrested abroad. Astonishingly, so-called Third World police managed what Britain’s finest could not.

Nicholas John Rabet, former deputy superintendent of Islington’s home at 114 Grosvenor Avenue, was charged in Thailand in 2006 with abusing 30 local boys – the youngest was six – and killed himself. I was finally able to describe his role in a nationwide child pornography ring serving wealthy British paedophiles; while ex-Cambridgeshire DC Peter Cook went on the record about how police inquiries here were mysteriously closed down.

The arrest and death of fellow ringleader Bernie Bain, former superintendent of Islington’s home at 1 Elwood Street, made it possible to name him. Bain abused numerous boys in his care, including Demetrious Panton, whom Margaret Hodge secretly branded “extremely disturbed” to BBC bosses in an attempt to halt a documentary on what she knew of the scandal. Mr Panton – now a lawyer – forced her to apologise for this cruel slur in the High Court.

Bain left Islington’s employ after Mr Panton, aged 11, revealed his abuse, which the council – influenced by PIE-type thinking – decided was “consensual”. The young victim spent the Eighties writing to Hodge’s councillors protesting otherwise. But Bain was left free to become a millionaire through a mysterious travel company. After the Standard started publishing, he fled to Morocco and was imprisoned there in 1996 for abusing children. He killed himself in 2000.

Detective Chief Superintendent John Sweeney, who took over Islington police’s child protection team after the scandal was exposed, traced long-ignored victims. He told me: “When I first learnt about the homes, I thought it couldn’t possibly be that bad. But it was worse.”

In the years since the White Report of 1995, more victims and abusers have come to light. However, Islington’s wholesale destruction of key files has enabled the council to avoid responsibility. I was asked in 2009 to help a solicitor representing one of Bain’s victims, who now suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder. Islington denied that this person was in their care as a child, and even that they ever employed Bain. The basis of their denial? They had no records for either.

Mr Panton revealed last week: “Just yesterday, I made a witness statement on behalf of someone who was also horribly abused by Bain. I knew him as a kid and his life and health have been destroyed by what happened to him. But Islington has denied any responsibility. So Islington is still covering up.”

I tracked down the Joker last autumn after I was given his details by someone who helped expose the scandal. I have known Shelley, as I shall call her, for many years and trust her forensic mind. She is concerned with protecting his three alleged victims as they remain traumatised. She knew nothing about the girls’ sufferings until Karen, the eldest, broke down and blurted out their story.

They were not yet ready, she said, to talk to the press or police. Many abuse survivors can only reveal what they suffered bit by bit – some suffer a self-protective partial amnesia. One was buggered at just five years old. I asked Shelley if it was possible she was being spun a fantasy. But she remembered the girl from care, and other details about what had occurred there.

Today Shelley has a good job, as does Karen. “Karen is very smart and sophisticated. But when she told me what happened, she fell apart. It was like she’d ripped off a scab. Afterwards she spent the day in bed, just crying.”

It is understood that, as adults in the early Noughties, two of the Joker’s alleged victims contacted the council, hoping for justice; that the council awarded them a smallish sum in compensation; and informed them the man had moved abroad and police could not find him.

Did Islington even alert police? It took me just two days to find him. I wept when I realised that he was accessing terminally ill children in an impoverished country. I discovered from his messages that the expat seemed lonely and kind. He wore funny hats to cheer up the children.

As a volunteer, he now visited them in hospital and at their homes. One unsuspecting mother said he was like a caring older relative in their time of need, and even invited him to stay. I found a photo of him at one hospital. I showed it to Shelley. She wasn’t taken in by his friendly grin: “That’s him. God, he’s ugly.”

When I learnt about the Joker, I spoke to Liz Davies, the former Islington senior social worker who blew the whistle on perverts targeting the council’s homes. Dr Davies is now Reader in Social Work at London Metropolitan University. I asked her how anyone could abuse a dying child. “Dead children can’t give evidence,” said Dr Davies. “There’s a training DVD about it. Some paedophiles target them.”

A reporter anonymously admitted last year that he had found Jimmy Savile on a mattress at the BBC with a little girl. She was bald, a cancer victim at Stoke Mandeville Hospital, where Savile “volunteered”. Savile hissed that if the reporter told anyone, his career was over. The reporter stayed silent.

Karen told Shelley: “None of us talked much as kids about what was being done to us… we felt ashamed. But the other girls mentioned being required to travel in Jimmy Savile’s taxis.”

Savile’s charity projects included ferrying disadvantaged children in taxis to places like Blackpool Pleasure Beach. At least one Islington survivor recalls being taken there by his abuser.

Child protection investigators have long been aware that corrupt taxi drivers are commissioned by paedophiles to transport children: “kids on wheels”, it has been called. One taxi driver was imprisoned in 1990 for prostituting boys. The same year, the Islington Gazette proudly recorded Jimmy Savile’s visit to open the council’s new housing complex for disabled people. The story focused on the likes of a three-year-old with cerebral palsy and a paralysed woman who had been at Stoke Mandeville.

Once this story is published, Shelley and I will give police the information we have. But she and the victims do not feel able to confide in police without the protection of media coverage.

What is certain is that neither these victims nor any others have much trust in Islington Council coming clean with the name of the home where abuse took place, as requested by Mr Gove. This is because the current Islington cabinet member with responsibility for children and family services is Joe Caluori – the son-in-law of Margaret Hodge.

Mr Panton said: “Do I think it is right that Margaret Hodge’s son-in-law now has this key position? Of course not. He may be a fine councillor, but I would think it is better that he is not in this position, given the association. While the politicians of the Eighties have moved on, their influence is still highly visible. It cannot be appropriate for any inquiry into this matter to be overseen by this MP’s relative.”

Mr Panton believes that “an independent police investigation into Islington is crucial. I know many abuse survivors who have not yet contacted Islington or the police. There is a real lack of trust – it is hard to tell your story when you risk being disbelieved or attacked.”

The whistleblower Dr Davies adds: “I think there could be more than one home with Savile connections. Children from Islington’s home at 114 Grosvenor Avenue were taken to Jersey by Rabet, and Savile visited Jersey’s Haut de la Garenne home. Survivors of abuse there have described being taken to an Islington children’s home.”
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Postby guruilla » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:21 pm

The shocking scale of the Establishment cover-up of former Liberal MP Cyril Smith’s sickening sex abuse of boys is revealed today.
For four decades, the depraved 29st politician was free to prey on vulnerable children as young as eight.

Police received at least 144 complaints by victims of the predatory paedophile yet the authorities blocked any prosecution – allowing Smith brazenly to continue his abuse.

The Liberal Party even put his name forward for a knighthood in 1988 in spite of the rumours of his sordid activities swirling around Westminster.

David, now Lord Steel nominated him for the honour despite knowing of the allegations about the bachelor MP for Rochdale, the ex-Liberal leader’s involvement emerging only in recent weeks after a Freedom of Information battle.

At Smith’s 80th birthday party, a gushing message from current Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg was read out, which said: ‘You were a beacon for our party in the ’70s and ’80s and continue to be an inspiration to the people of Rochdale.’

Now, an explosive new book serialised in the Daily Mail details how Smith – who died in 2010 aged 82 – was repeatedly protected despite being arrested for a string of sex crimes.

Written by one of Smith’s successors as MP for the Lancashire constituency, Labour’s Simon Danczuk, the book reveals:

MI5 and Special Branch officers put pressure on police to drop investigations;
child porn was found in Smith’s car but police were ordered to release him;
he was repeatedly arrested for ‘acts of gross indecency with young lads’ in public toilets but no action was taken;
Smith was a visitor to the notorious Elm Guest house in South-west London, now the focus of a Scotland Yard investigation into an alleged VIP paedophile ring;
senior Labour figures’ support of the Paedophile Information Exchange helped keep Smith ‘hidden from scrutiny’.

In his book, Smile for the Camera: the Double Life of Cyril Smith, Mr Danczuk details Smith’s ‘rapacious sexual appetite’ and highlights chilling similarities between the northern MP and fellow paedophile Jimmy Savile.

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Postby guruilla » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:46 pm

Just read As It Happens, a quick read, not exactly painless but it could have been a lot worse. Points of interest for me:

from pg 4:

To be eleven years old and have the complete free run of the main dance hall of a wartime city that was headlined by one Sunday paper as "The City of Sin" gave me an education that qualified me for every A level [UK equivalent of SAT scores] that ever existed in Hell. Not yet five feet in height, as thin as a drumstick, with big eyes, ears, and nose, I was everyone's mascot, pet, runner, holder of mysterious parcels and secrets. Because I didn't understand the first thing about anything I was the confidant of murderers, whores, black marketers, crooks of every trade - and often of the innocent victims they prayed on. I also played the drums.
[pg. 6:]
A time of great excitement for me was when one of our lady patrons was discovered in several carrier bags in a ditch. Murder they called it, and it was a whole new scene to me. I could never work out why it was necessary to cut her into bits. It was all part of a strange adult world that I never tried to understand, and even though I had a good idea of who'd done it, no one asked me.

On pg. 136-9, he sums up his feelings about females, sex, love, etc, and his early sexual experience, ending with the odd line "For fun, girls take a lot of beating."

On pg. 143 he describes the power of celebrity to sexually attract young girls.
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Postby RocketMan » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:15 am

A time of great excitement for me was when one of our lady patrons was discovered in several carrier bags in a ditch. Murder they called it, and it was a whole new scene to me. I could never work out why it was necessary to cut her into bits. It was all part of a strange adult world that I never tried to understand, and even though I had a good idea of who'd done it, no one asked me.


"Murder, they called it"... "Part of a strange adult world".

Like beer on a Friday night and a driver's license, that it? Jesus H. Christ.
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Postby Hammer of Los » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:10 pm

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One comment then.

I abhore murder, paedophilia, torture, violence and black magic.

I'm not too fond of threats, deceit, manipulation or coercion, either.

Sends folk paranoid.

The earth is cursed with these things.

We need to work to lift these curses.

Together.

For the sake of Life itself.

Always remembering forgiveness and atonement are also important.
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Postby guruilla » Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:49 pm

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“Oscar” (James W) Savile
b: 31-Oct-1926, Leeds
d: 29-Oct-2011, Leeds
1951 - Age 24, Company director, Leeds Olympic, 2nd Edinburgh-Newcastle 1950, 4th Ayr-Carlisle 1951, known as “The Duke"
1970s/80s - DJ Jimmy Savile and later Sir Jimmy
http://www.tour-racing.co.uk/html/1950s_bio_s.html

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Jimmy & Elvis:

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Postby slimmouse » Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:06 pm

Thanks to all involved in the spadework here,

So, Oscar Saville, a company director at the age of 24

All of the above appears to paint a rather different picture of Saville, than that generally offered for Public consumption.

Even Im actually surprised by this,

A second edit to add.

The Jimmy Saville we're looking at above, sounds more to me like a product of the famous Saville family of Leeds, with their own family crest and all of that, as opposed to someone who began life down a coalmine.

Fascinating, even if not correct in the slightest?..
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Postby Plutonia » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:21 pm

Here's another one:

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British Cycle Tour
Caption:26th August 1952: Con Carr of the Irish team is interviewed by Duke Oscar Savile (later Sir Jimmy Savile) at the start of a Daily Express Tour of Britain cycle race from Hastings to Southsea. (Photo by Express/Express/Getty Images)
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The Savile family have lived in Yorkshire since the late middle ages.A branch of the family, later to become Earls of Mexborough in 1766, came to live at Methley, near Wakefield in 1588 and this estate remains a core part of the portfolio to this day.

Methley Hall near Leeds,[something like 6 miles?] was constructed in the 15th Century and was remodelled several times. It was requisitioned by the army during both the first and second world wars, during which time it also became subject to significant mining subsidence and extensive dry rot.

The Hall was demolished in the late 1950s and the family moved to Arden Hall in North York Moors near Hawnby and Helmsley, which had been purchased in 1897 by the 6th Earl of Mexborough.

This remains the family’s home but land, property, forestry and farms are still managed in West Yorkshire.

http://www.mexboroughestates.co.uk/history.html


And, yes, slim, I agree, it does make Savile look more like a toff than a gangster. If that was the case, I think it makes it more likely that he was a spook of some kind. That he went by "The Duke" and called his mother "The Duchess" certainly seems more significant now.
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Postby KUAN » Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:53 am

Endeavour Season 2 Episode 4

The whole series has been excellent but, what seems to be the last episode has shades of Haut de la Garenne

It looks like the next series will start with the bent cops, politicians etc. with the upper hand.
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Suspicions: Ex-Lambeth social services employees say they suspect a cover-up involving a former Labour minister. (Lambeth Town Hall, pictured left). Paedophile Michael John Carroll (right) ran the children's home

But the inquiry into alleged attacks at the home was halted soon after an ex-social services boss told police of alleged early evening visits by a Labour politician, believed to be a minister.
The Daily Mirror reported Detective Chief Inspector Clive Driscoll was taken off the case and faced disciplinary proceedings for ­allegedly naming the MP among the suspects.

He was questioned under caution by Met Police officers and removed from Lambeth borough force before the disciplinary proceedings were later dropped.
Tony Blair was Prime Minister at the time of the alleged offences

Two former social services employees who were involved in the case have now revealed they suspect the minister's involvement was covered up.
One, a former manager who alerted police in 1998, told the Mirror: 'One wonders why Scotland Yard would be so desperate to stop it being investigated.
'I believe it was stopped because somebody in power was trying to prevent any further investigation into the politician.'

Former Lambeth council child protection chief Dr Nigel Goldie added: 'There were a lot of very senior people trying to put a lid on it. There was ­something very unfortunate about the way the whole thing was dealt with.'
The Mirror reported it has seen a Lambeth council memo that shows there was an intention to brief then Health Secretary, Frank Dobson, about the police investigation.
But Mr Dobson said he did not remember being briefed and was never told a minister in Tony Blair's government was suspected of child abuse.
Whitehall officials are now conducting a review, at Mr Dobson's request, of all documents and briefings he received from the SSI when he was Health Secretary.
It comes after claims of a cover up continued over allegations of abuse surrounding the late Liberal Democrat MP Cyril Smith.

The Lib Dems are under further pressure over Smith after even his family called for an independent inquiry into allegations he had abused boys.
Cyril Smith's abuse of young, vulnerable boys was exposed in the MP's book - Smile for the Camera: The Double Life of Cyril Smith
In a statement, the family said they did not believe the claims against him – but would be happy to co-operate with a proper inquiry.
The intervention is uncomfortable for Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg, who has rejected calls for such a probe.
Last week he urged the police to investigate whether there had been an Establishment cover-up of Smith's activities.


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Minister in Tony Blair’s government among group of men suspected of abusing children at home run by paedophile

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tony-blair-minister-former-pms-3468050

Apr 27, 2014 22:59 By Tom Pettifor A probe was halted soon after an ex-social services boss told police of his alleged evening visits in the early 1980s

Picture shows the site of the former children's home in Brixton (left) Tony Blair and a photo posed by a model (top right) One of Tony Blair’s ministers was among a group of men suspected of sexually abusing children at a home run by a convicted paedophile.

But the probe was halted soon after an ex-social services boss told police of his alleged evening visits in the early 1980s.

Official documents seen by the Daily Mirror during a 16-month investigation reveal former residents told detectives that a group of paedophiles attacked children in a private flat in the home.

But two former Lambeth social services employees involved in the case suspect a cover-up because experienced detective Clive Driscoll was removed from the investigation and given other duties.

One, a former manager who alerted police in 1998, said: “One wonders why Scotland Yard would be so desperate to stop it being investigated.

"I believe it was stopped because somebody in power was trying to prevent any further investigation into the politician.”

And Dr Nigel Goldie, a council boss in charge of child protection in 1998, said: “There were some allegations that ­children were being abused by one or two prominent persons.

“There were a lot of very senior people trying to put a lid on it. There was ­something very unfortunate about the way the whole thing was dealt with.”

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Amgell Road in Brixton

The Mirror has seen a Lambeth council memo that shows there was an intention to brief then Health Secretary, Frank Dobson, about the police investigation.

But Mr Dobson said he did not remember being briefed and was never told a minister in Tony Blair’s government was suspected of child abuse.

Both Dr Goldie and the former manager have called for an independent probe into their suspicions the minister was protected by the Establishment.

After being tracked down by the Mirror, the ex-manager said in the early 1980s she saw the man visiting Michael John Carroll at the Angell Road children’s home he ran in Brixton, South London.

She said she told top Lambeth­ officials at the time she suspected Carroll was at the centre of a paedophile ring at the home.

Bosses learned in 1986 that he was convicted of sexually assaulting a boy of 12 in the Wirral in 1966.

But the pervert was allowed to continue running the home until 1991.

Carroll was finally arrested in the summer of 1998 and convicted of a string of child sex attacks dating back three decades including assaults on youngsters in Angell Road.

He was freed from his 10-year sentence in 2004. Dr Goldie, who was assistant director of social services at Lambeth, then helped Met Detective Inspector Mr Driscoll investigate claims of sexual abuse in children’s homes.

At the time, Mr Driscoll was an ­experienced child protection ­detective. He went on to nail two racist thugs who murdered Stephen Lawrence.

But in 1998 he was taken off the Lambeth case and faced disciplinary proceedings for ­allegedly naming the politician among the suspects.

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Detective Chief Inspector Clive Driscoll

Describing how he learned the minister was being investigated, Dr Goldie said in a signed statement: “Clive started talking about the politician... He articulated that his approach was to shake the tree and be quite open about what he was doing and see what happened.”

Dr Goldie, now a non-executive director of mental health charity the Richmond Fellowship, added: “The allegation was that the politician had been seen going in and out of Angell Road.

“There were allegations he sexually abused children.”

Dr Goldie said he received a call from a senior police officer a short time later.

He recalled: “It was all very cloak and dagger stuff. He said, ‘Can you come downstairs and meet us outside?’”

Dr Goldie met the officer, who was accompanied by a junior colleague, in a cafe in Clapham, South London. He said: “They had an air of authority like they were used to taking decisions. They asked if there had been other allegations about the individual [the minister].”

Dr Goldie, described a second meeting with the same senior officer at the same cafe a few days later. He said: “They said essentially that they saw it as fantasy. They were rubbishing Clive’s evidence. It was a closure job on what Clive was saying.

“They put a lot of pressure on me. I had to treat it all confidentially.

“By that point Clive had been called in and given his disciplinary notice. They said that Clive hadn’t been able to provide them with evidence for the claims.”

Dr Goldie said their manner was “threatening” and added: “I was told not to tell anyone or repeat it. It was heavy.”


Mr Driscoll was questioned under caution by Met officers and removed from the Lambeth district. The disciplinary proceedings were later dropped.

Dr Goldie, who left Lambeth council of his own accord four months later, added: “What is needed is a proper independent ­investigation with a ­judicial element to get to the bottom of who was involved in the decision to shut Clive’s investigation down and to re-open the investigation into the original allegations.”

An internal memo written by Dr Goldie, dated September 1, 1998, said Mr Dobson was to be updated about the investigation by the Social Services Inspectorate – the body responsible for overseeing children’s homes.

Whitehall officials are now conducting a review, at Mr Dobson’s request, of all documents and briefings he received from the SSI when he was Health Secretary.

Mr Driscoll’s investigation was scrapped soon after Ron Davies quit as Welsh ­Secretary when he was mugged by a male prostitute at a gay meeting spot on Clapham Common, South London, in October 1998.

A week later, Agriculture Minister Nick Brown was forced into revealing he was gay by the News of the World. Neither men are the minister suspected of child abuse.


Alastair ­Campbell’s entry for November 4, 1998, in his published diary, The Blair Years, states: “As TB said later, with a touch of black humour, we could get away with Ron as a one-off aberration, but if the public start to think the whole Cabinet is indulging in gay sex, we might have a bit of a political problem.”

Mr Driscoll’s probe was shut down that month before Sir Denis O’Connor, then an assistant commissioner, set up new investigation Operation Middleton. It was contacted by more than 200 alleged victims and secured three convictions. In 19 cases suspects could not be identified.

Detective Superintendent Richard Gargini, who led Middleton, said last night: “Every allegation was taken ­seriously, including unsubstantiated rumour.

"Where victims and suspects were ­identified the inquiry was conducted ethically and with complete professionalism. We found no evidence of an organised network where people in authority attended the children’s’ homes for ­inappropriate purposes.”

Mr Driscoll was taken off the Stephen Lawrence case in January after he criticised Yard bosses for removing him from the 1998 probe.

He has been forced to retire next month. Several ex-Lambeth children’s home residents have recently come forward to police to allege abuse. One ex-residential social worker faces trial next year.

The Mirror sent Scotland Yard a detailed list of questions on March 21 which they have failed to answer.

A spokesman said last week: “Various inquiries relating to Operation Middleton remain ongoing.”

Mr Blair’s spokesman refused to comment last night. All children’s homes in Lambeth were shut down by 1995.

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Politician suspected of child abuse 'would spend evenings with convicted paedophile'


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The retired social services boss told detectives how the politician suspected of child abuse would spend evenings with the convicted paedophile who ran the home.

The witness said the man would arrive alone and then join Michael Carroll in an annex where the beast is known to have attacked a string of youngsters.

She said Carroll and the public figure would take young boys to the top-floor flat in Angell Road children’s home in Brixton, South London.

She said: “John would sometimes come down and select one of the boys to go up to the flat. He would say, ‘Uncle John wants to talk to you’ and the child would go up holding his hand.”

Official documents reveal one of Carroll’s alleged victims told detectives 16 years ago that a group of paedophiles attacked children in the flat.

Carroll was the only person convicted of abuse linked to the home, despite a number of children claiming they were attacked by other men there.

The witness accused Scotland Yard of covering up the alleged abuse after she originally gave evidence to then-detective inspector Clive Driscoll in 1998.

She said the Metropolitan Police failed to follow up on her evidence after they removed Mr Driscoll from the investigation.

Detectives from the Met’s Child Abuse Investigation Command have now taken statements from her, after she was tracked down during a 16-month Mirror investigation.

She said she saw the politician at the children’s home about four times in a three-month period while she was a trainee there in the early 1980s.

She said: “It was always in the evenings, between about half six and eight. He would see John and then disappear upstairs with John to his private flat. He would always arrive by himself.”

She said none of the staff would speak up when Carroll returned to select a boy.

She said: “The first time I saw it I asked a staff member what was going on and she told me John was doing ‘direct work’.”
This meant working one-to-one with children addressing issues including sexual abuse. Convicted paedophile Carroll claimed to be an expert on 
counselling abused children.

The witness said: “There were a group of John’s favourite boys who would go up to the flat. All were aged between about six and 10 and very vulnerable. They all had the same look – like they craved love and affection.”

Describing one incident, she said: “My shift was coming to an end when John and the politician came into the dining room together.

“Angell Road had a dining room and the doors opened on to the playground area. John was with the politician. The politician went outside where there was a boy aged about seven in the garden.

“He called the child by his name. I remember thinking, ‘how does he know this child’s name?’ As I looked at the boy, I saw what I can only describe as a mixture of fear and excitement on his face.”

She said the politician then went over to the boy and put him on his knee while rubbing his back.

“I thought this was odd and creepy,” she said.

She said on another occasion she met the politician in the home on his way to see Carroll.

She said: “I don’t know how he got in. Either he had a key or John let him in, but where was John when I bumped into him?”

She said the politician was one of several men who visited the home including a police officer and social workers from other parts of Lambeth. The Mirror knows the identity of three of the others. All their names have been passed to the police.

An alleged female victim of Carroll told 
detectives in 1998 that a paedophile ring abused boys in the Angell Road annex, known to staff and children as “John’s room”.

The girl told detectives she was violently sexually assaulted by Carroll, referred to as MJC in an official document seen by the Mirror.

It states: 
“She alleged it was common knowledge, although it didn’t happen to her, that MJC had men back to 
his flat and then cajoled children from the home to have sex with them.”

Another adds: “There is information that John Carroll used to take a group of adults to a room referred to as “John’s room” where they may have been involved in abuse of residents. These groups may have contained staff members.”

The witness said she saw the minister on two further occasions, once with a social worker and the police officer. She told managers she suspected abuse. She said: “I was told John was a law unto himself and was protected by someone higher up.”

Unbeknown to her at the time, Carroll already had a conviction for sexually assaulting a child in 1966.

Lambeth social services became aware he was a convicted paedophile in 1986, but Carroll was allowed to remain in charge for another five years.

The witness said in the late 1980s, while still working for Lambeth, she saw the politician’s name in the visitors’ book at the home as well as in a log book, which included details of which children were taken out.

She then confronted Carroll. “I said, ‘you have friends in high places’. He said something like, ‘I don’t know why you lot keep going on about him coming here, it’s not the only children’s home he goes to’.”

She said records showed the politician took boys out aged 12 to 15, but would sometimes be accompanied by Carroll with children under 10.

She believes it was her information that got Mr Driscoll taken off the case.

“I finally thought I had found somebody who was going to take me seriously,” she said. “I trusted 
him. Someone at Scotland Yard claimed I was an unreliable witness. Why would they be bothered about me?

“I believe the investigation was stopped because somebody in power was trying to prevent any further investigation into the politician and possible unlawful activity.”

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Postby smiths » Fri May 02, 2014 7:14 am

^^^ what a shocking pile of shit that is, i sigh with a heavy heart
the question is why, who, why, what, why, when, why and why again?
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