Report from Iron Mountain and JK Galbraith

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Report from Iron Mountain and JK Galbraith

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:21 pm

Leonard Lewin wrote an interesting book, and I'm actually not talking about Report from Iron Mountain, but his paperback thriller Triage, which I read at a young age. My dad had a room full of dusty old paperbacks, most of them gleefully profane pulp novels, and in retrospect, Triage was little different. It was about a covert group of Establishment made men, all Americans of a very Langley persuasion, running a very intellectual death squad. The "Triage" of course being the diagnosis of which cells in the United States super-organism needed to be "treated" the most. It was an interesting book, and considering I read it years before I had the slightest interest in the actual tradecraft, I will probably re-read it soon to get a sense of how accurate it was.

Aside from that, Leonard Lewin has kept a fairly low profile. Then again, a great many authors from his era did -- even penning a single best-seller was no guarantee of success in the 60's-70's era of publishing, because styles were changing so fast. (Now, of course, things have sufficiently dumbed down to the point where there is only a market for 5 different books, tops -- way easier to judge a manuscript now! They might actually use computers.) My stepdad penned a NYT bestseller but you've never heard of him, and shit, he's barely heard of himself, either.

Yet Leonard Lewin makes a credible claim, namely that he wrote Iron Mountain as a parody. It would all be relatively straightforward if not for one weird detail: John Kenneth Galbraith has insisted that Iron Mountain is not only a genuine document, but a project he was actually a part of.

Statements made by John Kenneth Galbraith in support of authenticity

On November 26, 1976, the report was reviewed in the book section of The Washington Post by Herschel McLandress, the pen name for Harvard professor John Kenneth Galbraith. Galbraith wrote that he knew firsthand of the report's authenticity because he had been invited to participate in its creation; that although he was unable to be part of the official group, he was consulted from time to time and had been asked to keep the project secret; and that while he doubted the wisdom of letting the public know about the report, he agreed totally with its conclusions.

He wrote: 'As I would put my personal repute behind the authenticity of this document, so would I testify to the validity of its conclusions. My reservation relates only to the wisdom of releasing it to an obviously unconditioned public.'

Six weeks later, in an Associated Press dispatch from London, Galbraith went even further and jokingly admitted that he was a member of the conspiracy. The following day, Galbraith backed off. When asked about his 'conspiracy' statement, he replied: 'For the first time since Charles II The Times has been guilty of a misquotation... Nothing shakes my conviction that it was written by either Dean Rusk or Mrs. Clare Booth Luce. '

The original reporter reported the following six days later: 'Misquoting seems to be a hazard to which Professor Galbraith is prone. The latest edition of the Cambridge newspaper Varsity quotes the following (tape recorded) interchange: 'Interviewer: 'Are you aware of the identity of the author of Report from Iron Mountain?' Galbraith: 'I was in general a member of the conspiracy, but I was not the author. I have always assumed that it was the man who wrote the foreword - Mr. Lewin

Those who state that the book is really the report of a government panel state that on at least three occasions -- including one tape-recorded exchange -- Galbraith publicly endorsed the authenticity of the report, but denied that he wrote it.


A word about covert projects. I have just finished the (excellent) Howard Blum book "Out There," and the author implies that the entire subject of his book, the UFO Working Group, was never intended as an actual top-level commission...they were a red team. In other words, an actual ongoing clandestine study group had assembled these men and tasked them with uncovering as much as they could. They were under close supervision every step of the way and the value of the exercise was determining what, exactly, an interested third party could determine. They were testing the effectiveness of their own compartmentalization.

Please note that this is not rare or even unusual, but SOP in conventional DOD doctrine at every level of scale. (For instance, Seal Team Six got their start doing red team assaults on US Army and Naval barracks to give the troops some "realistic" combat experience. Which it was, because they demonstrated that a small, highly trained team of exceptional warriors could take over an entire US military base with ease.)

So I think it's a credible possibility that both Lewin and Galbraith were being used for a similar red team "investigation" project looking into Continuity of Government, and being used by an actual working group who had already devised and implemented a similar system.

I think it's equally credible, however, that Lewin really did write a satire, an arch in-joke, and Galbraith was playing along.

Anyways, here's Lewin's take:

The book came out in November, 1967, and generated controversy as soon as it appeared. It purported to be the secret report of an anonymous "Special Study Group," set up, presumably at a very high level of government, to determine the consequences to American society of a "permanent" peace, and to draft a program to deal with them. Its conclusions seemed shocking.

This commission found: that even in the unlikely event that a lasting peace should prove "attainable," it would almost surely be undesirable; that the "war system" is essential to the functioning of a stable society; that until adequate replacement for it might be developed, wars and an "optimum" annual number of war deaths must be methodically planned and budgeted. And much more. Most of the Report deals with the "basic" functions of war (economic, political, sociological, ecological, etc.) and with possible substitutes to serve them, which were examined and found wanting. The text is preceded by my foreword, along with other background furnished by the "John Doe" who made the Report available.

The first question raised, of course, was that of its authenticity. But government spokesmen were oddly cautious in phrasing their denials, and for a short time, at least in Washington, more speculation was addressed to the Group's members and of their sponsorship than to whether the Report was an actual quasi-official document. (The editors of Trans-action magazine, which ran an extensive round-up of opinion on the book, noted that government officials, as a class, were those most likely to accept it as the real thing.)

Eventually, however, in the absence of definitive confirmation either way, commentators tended to agree that it must be a political satire. In that case, who could have written it? Among the dozens of names mentioned, those of J. K. Galbraith and myself appeared most often, along with a mix of academics, politicians, think-tank drop-outs, and writers.

Most reviewers, relatively uncontaminated by overexposure to real-politik, were generous to what they saw as the author's intentions: to expose a kind of thinking in high places that was all too authentic, influential, and dangerous, and to stimulate more public discussion of some of the harder questions of war and peace. But those who felt their own oxen gored-who could identify themselves in some way with the government, the military, "systems analysis", the established order of power-were not. They attacked, variously, the substance of the Report; the competence of those who praised its effectiveness; and the motives of whomever they assigned the obloquy of authorship, often charging him with an disingenuous sympathy for the Report's point of view. The more important think-tankers, not unreasonably seeing the book as an indictment of their own collective moral sensibilities and intellectual pretensions, proffered literary as well as political judgements: very bad satire, declared Herman Kahn; lacking in bite, wrote Henry Rowen, of Rand. Whoever wrote it is an idiot, said Henry Kissinger. A handful of far-right zealots and eccentrics predictably applauded the Report's conclusions.

That's as much background as I have room for, before destroying whatever residuum of suspense may still persist about the book's authorship. I wrote the "Report," all of it. (How it came about and who was privy to the plot I'll have to discuss elsewhere.) But why as a hoax?

What I intended was simply to pose the issues of was and peace in a provocative way. To deal with the essential absurdity of the fact that the war system, however much deplored, is nevertheless accepted as part of the necessary order of things. To caricature the bankruptcy of the think-tank mentality by pursuing its style of scientistic thinking to its logical ends. And perhaps, with luck, to extend the scope of public discussion of "peace planning" beyond its usual, stodgy limits.

Several sympathetic critics of the book felt that the guessing-games it set off tended to deflect attention from those objectives, and thus to dilute its effects. To be sure. Yet if the "argument" of the Report had not been hyped up by its ambiguous authenticity-is it just possibly for real?-its serious implications wouldn't have been discussed either. At all. This may be a brutal commentary on what it sometimes takes to get conspicuous exposure in the supermarket of political ideas, or it may only exemplify how an oblique approach may work when directed engagement fails. At any rate, the who-done-it aspect of the book was eventually superseded by sober critiques.

At this point it became clear that whatever surviving utility the Report might have, if any, would be as a point-of-departure book-for the questions it raises, not for the specious "answers" it purports to offer. And it seemed to me that unless a minimum of uncertainty about its origins could be sustained-i.e., so long as I didn't explicitly acknowledge writing it-its value as a model for this kind of "policy analysis" might soon be dissipated. So I continued to play the no-comment game.

Until now. The charade is over, whatever is left of it. For the satirical conceit of Iron Mountain, like so many others, has been overtaken by the political phenomena it attacked. I'm referring to those other documents-real ones, and verifiable-that have appeared in print. The Pentagon papers were not written by someone like me. Neither was the Defense Department's Pax Americana study (how to take over Latin America). Nor was the script of Mr. Kissinger's "Special Action Group," reported by Jack Anderson (how to help Pakistan against India while pretending to be neutral).

So far as I know, no one has challenged the authenticity of these examples of high-level strategic thinking. I believe a disinterested reader would agree that sections of them are as outrageous, morally, and intellectually, as any of the Iron Mountain inventions. No, the revelations lay rather in the style of the reasoning-the profound cynicism, the contempt for public opinion. Some of the documents read like parodies of Iron Mountain, rather than the reverse.

These new developments may have helped fuel the debates the book continues to ignite, but they raised a new problem for me. It was that the balance of uncertainty about the book's authorship could "tilt," as Kissinger might say, the other way. (Was that Defense order for 5,000-odd paperbacks, someone might ask, really for routine distribution to overseas libraries-or was it for another, more sinister, purpose?) I'm glad my own Special Defense Contingency Plan included planting two nonexistent references in the book's footnotes to help me prove, if I ever have to, that the work is fictitious.


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Re: Report from Iron Mountain and JK Galbraith

Postby compared2what? » Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:09 pm

Wombaticus Rex wrote:So I think it's a credible possibility that both Lewin and Galbraith were being used for a similar red team "investigation" project looking into Continuity of Government, and being used by an actual working group who had already devised and implemented a similar system.[

I think it's equally credible, however, that Lewin really did write a satire, an arch in-joke, and Galbraith was playing along.


The former sounds more credible to me than the latter, if it has to be an either/or. But there are....maybe six or so? I'm not sure how many. There are a number of other ops-type possibilities as well. (Someone was lying to JKG or LL because it was real; someone was lying to JKG or LL because it wasn't real; etc. You know. Cold war stuff.)




Galbraith wrote that he knew firsthand of the report's authenticity because he had been invited to participate in its creation; that although he was unable to be part of the official group, he was consulted from time to time and had been asked to keep the project secret; and that while he doubted the wisdom of letting the public know about the report, he agreed totally with its conclusions.


He was in India (or, in any event, was the U.S. Ambassador to India) at the time that he would have been invited to participate in its creation, and at Harvard for the two years during which he could have been consulted from time to time. So there should be a pretty extensive record of with whom he was talking and corresponding about what between 1963 and 1965. It's possible that his claim is to some degree investigatable, if not fully checkable,.

I don't know where his personal papers are, but I'm sure they're somewhere.
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Re: Report from Iron Mountain and JK Galbraith

Postby D.R. » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:13 pm

Yes, my friend the late Ace Hayes had a phone call with Lewin and pretty much got his story as reported above.
While he didn't drop any names, he hinted that the satire was built on actual documents just as Lewin describes.
I have a hardcover copy of the book.

One wonders how the white-papers of the elite have changed as the years went by, some are hidden in plain sight, like the Project for a New American Century.
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Re: Report from Iron Mountain and JK Galbraith

Postby slimmouse » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:25 pm

Wombaticus Rex wrote:It would all be relatively straightforward if not for one weird detail: John Kenneth Galbraith has insisted that Iron Mountain is not only a genuine document, but a project he was actually a part of.


Or the fact that one of Zbigniew Brzezinski's earlier books, "between two ages", works heavily around the general narrative of this 'dubiously genuine' report?

Hard to tell I guess, given Brzezinski's affiliations - although he does strike me as someone who often has a greater capacity than most of his peers to say it as it is.

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Re: Report from Iron Mountain and JK Galbraith

Postby justdrew » Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:38 pm

http://www.ironmountain.com/
http://www.portlandhikersfieldguide.org/wiki/Iron_Mountain_Hike

where is the "real" Iron Mountain? I bet there are several mountains named that. Is the place where the first and last meetings of the group were held real? Was it really at Mount Weather?

the source material, we should be seeing about 79 pages? Or is there something larger?
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Re: Report from Iron Mountain and JK Galbraith

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:32 pm

slimmouse wrote:Or the fact that one of Zbigniew Brzezinski's earlier books, "between two ages", works heavily around the general narrative of this 'dubiously genuine' report?


Read two of the Polish Hammer's books, but that is not one of them. Fascinating, I will order that tonight...thanks for the heads up.
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Re: Report from Iron Mountain and JK Galbraith

Postby compared2what? » Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:57 pm

compared2what? wrote:
Wombaticus Rex wrote:So I think it's a credible possibility that both Lewin and Galbraith were being used for a similar red team "investigation" project looking into Continuity of Government, and being used by an actual working group who had already devised and implemented a similar system.[

I think it's equally credible, however, that Lewin really did write a satire, an arch in-joke, and Galbraith was playing along.


The former sounds more credible to me than the latter, if it has to be an either/or.


I take it back. Here's the lede of his pseudonymous review:

WASHINGTON POST BOOK WORLD
NOVEMBER 26, 1967

News of War and Peace You’re Not Ready For
By Herschel McLandress

THREE QUESTIONS ARE RAISED by the unauthorized publication of this deeply controversial document. The first concerns its authenticity. The second concerns the validity of the several considerations that caused one of the authors, on his own motion and in violation of his implicit oath, to release it for publication, and the collateral question of whether, within the genially accepted ethical framework of the free enterprise system, Dial Press was justified in publishing it. The third question concerns the empirical-theoretical validity of the conclusions.

As to the authenticity of the document, it happens that this reviewer can speak to the full extent of his personal authority and credibility. In the summer of 1963 I received a telephone call from a scientist friend—a well-known astronomer, physicist and communications theorist. This was on the eve of my departure for a month-long seminar on modern psychometric theory at the Villa Cerbolloni in Italy. I was asked to attend a rneeting a week hence to discuss a project of high national influence at Iron Mountain in upstate New York. I knew the place well, for Iron Mountain was the working headquarters of the committee of selection set up by the Chase Manhattan Bank which, after establishing working criteria, designated the nucleus of bank executives to be protected in the event of nuclear attack. But the Italian meetings were also of high urgency and had been planned long in advance. Accordingly, I was forced to decline. I was then instructed to keep the invitation strictly confidential. On two subsequent occasions I was consulted by the psychiatrist and specialist on the relationship between individual and group behavior whom, more than incidentally, I recommended to take my place. I have concluded that I do not now violate any controlling ethical precepts in relating this history. As far as I personally am concerned, it leaves no doubt as to the credibly of this document. The public would not be more assured had I written it myself.


That man's not serious.

Also....The last line might just mean "if I, the non-existent Herschel McLandress, had written it myself." But fwiw, if that's Galbraith quasi-outing himself as the author, it wouldn't have been the first time the possibility was raised. From John Leo's 11/1/67 piece on the book in The New York Times:

Many analysts believe that the report reflects a grasp of the Washington scene as well as an understanding of social psychology, ecology, economics and sociology that is beyond the ability of most satirists.

Publishing figures who asked not to be identified said that the Harvard economist John Kenneth Galbraith had such qualifications. Under the pseudonym Mark Eparnay, he has written several political satires, including “The McLandless Dimension,” which appeared in Esquire several years ago.

Galbraith to Review


He is reviewing the Iron Mountain book under the pseudonym “Herschel McLandless” for Book World, a weekly supplement to The Chicago Tribune and The Washington Post. Book World is edited by Byron Dobell, who was a managing editor at Esquire until recent weeks.

When asked if he was reviewing his own book for Book World, he said: “That would be unethical. Is the Times suggesting I acted unethically?”

He added that he couldn’t say whether he had a hand in writing Iron Mountain because “some things are so far removed from reality that they can’t be commented on.”


(Well aren't you the clever one with your double meanings, Mr. Galbraith.)

Both reviews in full here.

It totally sounds like an Esquire-originated prank. It's very much the kind of thing they' would have done. And still would do. Right down to the not anticipating (or caring about) what people who weren't in on it might do, think or feel.
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Postby justdrew » Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:16 pm

I gather from this that Dr. Herschel McLandress is a character in a story written by Galbraith under the pen name of Mark Epernay....
the Villa Cerbolloni seems to exist tho, it's spelled with an S nowadays

The Mclandress Dimension, by John Kenneth Galbraith (1963)

THE FAMOUS economist John Kenneth Galbraith (1908-2006) wrote some entertaining fiction as well as non-fiction classics like The Affluent Society and The Age of Uncertainty. The McLandress Dimension is made up of several idea-as-hero short stories published in Esquire and Harper's Magazine under the pseudonym Mark Epernay. His wicked Canadian sense of humor was never shown to better advantage.

Dr. Herschel McLandress, a Bostonian psychometrist, is America's leading researcher on quantitative human behavior. The McLandress Dimension measures the time span in which a person's attention can be diverted from himself. Richard M. Nixon hit the lowest score, at a mere three seconds. But there's more—a whole lot more:

The American Sociometrics System, a.k.a. Maximum Prestige Horizon (MPH), the Confidence Machine based on the dynamics of Sustaining Pressure, the Fully Automated Foreign Policy ("Even a large group of men can reach agreement provided it is on positions previously taken"), and—inevitably—The Takeover ("All property gifted to government. Treasury as custodian. Expropriation thus accomplished. Revolution bloodless, complete").

Economics will never seem like the "dismal science" again. "The reader who ignores The McLandress Dimension may well be turning his back on the future" (The New Republic). In case you're wondering, "Mark Epernay" was derived from Mark Twain and the French town of Epernay, from where Napoleon directed the battle of Sedan.

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Postby JackRiddler » Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:53 pm

Is it part of the joke that the best known "Iron Mountain" is the world's largest document shredding service, listed on the NYSE?

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Re: Report from Iron Mountain and JK Galbraith

Postby justdrew » Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:06 pm

I don't know when the document management company was founded or name changed to that, but if it wasn't then, it sure is now. :wink:


we should write a new version that dispels the doom in the original and shows a positive path forward.

of course, no one would fall for THAT, people always want the doom. :hrumph
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Postby compared2what? » Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:38 pm

justdrew wrote:I gather from this that Dr. Herschel McLandress is a character in a story written by Galbraith under the pen name of Mark Epernay....
the Villa Cerbolloni seems to exist tho, it's spelled with an S nowadays


It was then, too. It would be pronounced "ch" in Italian if it started with a "c." He's garbling it for funniness, and also for the "baloney," and possibly for some other, more specific reason that's passed into the mists of time.

But I'm sure he wasn't being serious. And that he meant for the chattering classes of the day to be able to perceive it. Almost the whole of the passage I quoted, though wry relative to contemporary standards, is signalling as much -- all the self-promotion and superfluous detail-dropping and so on. The stuff about the bank executives who would be protected from nuclear attack, for example -- even if it weren't so Sterling-Hayden-in-Dr.-Straneglove, that just has no place being in a book review in a publication that thought itself literary in 1967 at all. It would have stood out as pompous at least to hip readers,, as well as anomalous to people who knew Dobell (ie -- to that era's equivalent of the media elite).

John Leo's signalling the in-crowd, too, ftm. (Using the double-entendre quote. And the one with the non-response. And mentioning Dobell.)

Many Book World readers might not have gotten it, I guess. But it would have been (and still would be) very typical of the Esquire prank sensibility to view that as a plus, if so. Life -- and particularly life in the cafe/cocktail-society circles frequented by men who worked in media and advertising -- was a lot more class-inflected then than it is now. Know what I mean? The cool kids (such as editors at Esquire) would all have been aspiring to a kind of wittiest-boy-at-Groton worldview, whether they went there, or to CUNY, or to the state college in whatever part of the midwest they came from. JFK himself was an iteration of that when at leisure to be, in fact.

My two cents. Is all. FWIW, my bias was actually running the other way. I thought the OP was interesting. And in a perverse sort of a way, I was kind of hoping that Prouty would get the win, too. Not that it matters, I suppose. It would still just be my opinion. And you know how that is. Changeable, uninformed, and not particularly remarkable. That's how.
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Postby JackRiddler » Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:54 pm

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Postby compared2what? » Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:55 pm

justdrew wrote:I gather from this that Dr. Herschel McLandress is a character in a story written by Galbraith under the pen name of Mark Epernay....
the Villa Cerbolloni seems to exist tho, it's spelled with an S nowadays


The Rockefeller Foundation has owned it since 1959, evidently. A Principesa left it to Dean Rusk.

Details here.
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Postby compared2what? » Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:59 pm

JackRiddler wrote:My God. He was your father, wasn't he?


:rofl2

Honestly, I feel bad about it. He's pretty much been the world heavyweight source-unreliability champion of all time, in my experience of him.
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justdrew wrote:I gather from this that Dr. Herschel McLandress is a character in a story written by Galbraith under the pen name of Mark Epernay....
the Villa Cerbolloni seems to exist tho, it's spelled with an S nowadays


The Rockefeller Foundation has owned it since 1959, evidently. A Principesa left it to Dean Rusk.

Details here.


the Principesa (Ella Holbrook Walker) bought it with her inherited whiskey money. Her grandfather: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiram_Walker
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