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Re: Idle No More

Postby Iamwhomiam » Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:24 pm

Am I wrong that this is occurring on the sovereign nation's land?

The quest for wealth has forever disregarded the will of the people their wealth is extracted from. These people are entitled to not have their live-giving natural resources endangered.

Funny that one would imagine Canada to be less intrusive to original peoples human rights then the USA, considering our northern neighbors long involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan, to say nothing of their equally long and viscous history of their treatment of Canadian Indians and Eskimos.
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Re: Idle No More

Postby Luther Blissett » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:11 am

Was this posted? A little backstory from October 1

Posted by Miles Howe on October 1, 2013
Elsipogtog Chief issues eviction notice to Texas-based frackers. Band Council Resolution to reclaim all unoccupied Crown Land
SWN - Leave by midnight, says chief to Treaty Day crowd of hundreds

REXTON, New Brunswick – In what may well go down as an historic Treaty Day, Eslipogtog First Nation's Chief Arren Sock today presented a Band Council Resolution stating that his community is prepared to reclaim all unoccupied Crown Lands in Signigtog District, which comprises most of present day provincial New Brunswick. The resolution was read to an exuberant crowd of hundreds of supporters from across Kent County, New Brunswick, and beyond.

“Whereas Prime Minister Harper and the Canadian Government have washed their hands with regards to the environmental protection of our lands and waters," read Chief Sock from a prepared statement.

"And whereas the provincial government has turned over all lands entrusted to them by the British Crown to a corporation for their own benefit.

And whereas our lands have been assaulted by clear-cutting and hardwood spray for the benefit of a few.

And whereas the Queen, under whose name our lands are entrusted, has shown unequivocally that she will not protect our interests.

And whereas our present lands are not adequate for our populations.

And whereas our lands have not yielded the amount capable of supporting our people due to mismanagement.

And whereas we are capable of managing our lands better than other governments or corporations.

And whereas we have lost all confidence in governments for the safekeeping of our lands held in trust by the British Crown.

And whereas a notice of eviction from our Keptin has been totally ignored by the provincial government and Southwestern Energy.

And whereas we have been compelled to act and save our water, land and animals from ruin.

Therefore, let it be resolved at a duly convened band council meeting, let it be known to all that we as Chief and council of Elsipogtog are reclaiming all unoccupied reserved native lands back and put in the trust of our people.

Furthermore, we have been instructed by our people that they are ready to go out and stake their claims on unoccupied Crown lands for their own use and benefit.”

Councillor Robert Levi from Elsipogtog then announced that the Elsipogtog band chief and council would be issuing SWN Resources Canada an eviction notice to have all their equipment removed from their currently blockaded, Irving-owned, compound along highway 134.

The notice of eviction will demand that SWN vacate by midnight, tonight, October 1st.

Jim Pictou, representing the Mi'gmaw Warriors Society, noted that the society would personally escort them out of the province of New Brunswick.

Chief Candice Paul of St. Mary's First Nation then offered the support of members of her community in assisting the Warriors in their escort.

In terms of the larger scope, the future implications of this Band Council Resolution remain unclear, but massive. Chief Sock alluded to the potential of mis-allocated royalty payments on equipment on Crown land, which currently goes to the province, but would benefit – and is due – to his community.

As far as the immediate issue of evicting SWN Resources Canada's blockaded seismic testing equipment, the chief kept his cards close when asked what would be done if the Texas-based gas company chose to ignore his eviction notice.

“We have planned next steps. But right now we're just going to keep that amongst ourselves as Elsipogtog Chief and Council,” said Sock.

Sock also noted that he had not yet spoken to representatives from the provincial New Brunswick government, but that they had a copy of the resolution and the eviction notice.

“I want a moratorium on fracking in New Brunswick,” said Sock. “Until if there is such a time that they can come up with a safer solution on how to extract shale gas. Right now I am here for our children and their children's children. Right now nobody can guarantee a safe and effective way of extracting shale gas without harm to the environment.

“No more negotiations with anybody.”
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Re: Idle No More

Postby Luther Blissett » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:25 am

UPDATE: RCMP Appear to Be Withdrawing as Solidarity Protests Spread

Early reports are saying that the RCMP appears to be withdrawing from the Mi’kmaq blockade, leaving hundreds of protesters victorious (for now). The armored personnel carrier has reportedly left the scene already, and more vehicles are leaving presently.

Canada is currently in an uproar about the violent surprise attack on the Mi’kmaq’s peaceful blockade this morning, which involved sniper rifles, attack dogs, tear gas, pepper spray, and plastic bullets. Solidarity protests have spread throughout “North American” cities, from Washington, DC, to Ontario, Canada. At the same time, a solidarity blockade of Highway 5 by the Six Nations in Ontario snarled traffic for hours.

Talks between the Elsipogtog and the premier of New Brunswick are set to recommence within days, and a national day of action in support of the blockade was called for tomorrow. No word yet as to whether talks will continue or not. If reports are true, and the RCMP does stand down, they only do so due to the courage and bravery of the First Nations—not only the Elsipogtog and the Mi’kmaq, but their supporters who have defended and upheld their rights from the very beginning.

The state will likely be licking their wounds, spreading lies about violent protesters, and trying to analyze the best way to take the land over. We must continue to support the Mi’kmaq through social media and neighborhood conversations. Let’s stop the PR industry machine in its tracks.

We’ll keep you posted!
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Re: Idle No More

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:54 am

Carol, you're entertaining. This is an interesting example of how much you deal with usernames instead of subject matter.

Carol Newquist » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:38 pm wrote:Is that what you and justdrew are contending as it relates to what's transpiring with this protest turned into a turkey shoot by cowardly and sadistic snipers? Is that the reason for the subversion pamphlet link?


You're offended -- appalled -- and yet, you know the answer and state it yourself in the very next post...

Carol Newquist » Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:42 pm wrote:Exactly, Luther. This supports what I said above and how it would obviously be spun by the media so comparisons to the streets of Egypt and Syria aren't made. Exceptionalism at its best.


I also got a kick out of this:

Carol Newquist » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:44 pm wrote:It looks like an interesting read from a cursory review...


Your enthusiastic willingness to comment in detail on source material you haven't read is an inspiration to us all.
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Re: Idle No More

Postby Laodicean » Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:07 am

Excellent frontline reporting from Stimulator of Submedia.tv here:

http://www.submedia.tv/stimulator/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/stimulator
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Re: Idle No More

Postby Carol Newquist » Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:27 am

Your enthusiastic willingness to comment in detail on source material you haven't read is an inspiration to us all.


Who is "us all?" That's a serious question. There are a lot of members with active accounts at this forum, and there are many more lurkers, and yet you have the temerity to speak for "all' of them. Very telling. Or, are there not as many members here as the numbers would reveal? Perhaps that could explain why you can so confidently speak for "all." Hmm.......

And, in fact, you were wrong with your statement. As I've noted in the other thread, I'm going to dissect the subversion manual, but no doubt, as I do, whatever thread that's done in will be inundated with all those questions that aren't questions you want me to answer but I won't because I'm not interested in flame wars, but still, it will come fast and furious, I won't respond to it and ignore it, and you will lock the thread because of all those nonsensical, baiting off-topic comments.
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Re: Idle No More

Postby Carol Newquist » Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:31 am

I also got a kick out of this:


I get a kick out of you, a moderator, saying fuck and fucking a lot when another poster, apparently a prized one, admonishes about profanity...but only about its use by certain posters with whom the aforementioned prized poster disagrees. It's a head shaker, for sure. Some days, I shake that head of mine so much at these contradictions and double standards, I get whiplash.
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Re: Idle No More

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:35 am

Carol Newquist » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:27 am wrote:
Your enthusiastic willingness to comment in detail on source material you haven't read is an inspiration to us all.


Who is "us all?" That's a serious question. There are a lot of members with active accounts at this forum, and there are many more lurkers, and yet you have the temerity to speak for "all' of them. Very telling. Or, are there not as many members here as the numbers would reveal? Perhaps that could explain why you can so confidently speak for "all." Hmm.......

And, in fact, you were wrong with your statement. As I've noted in the other thread, I'm going to dissect the subversion manual, but no doubt, as I do, whatever thread that's done in will be inundated with all those questions that aren't questions you want me to answer but I won't because I'm not interested in flame wars, but still, it will come fast and furious, I won't respond to it and ignore it, and you will lock the thread because of all those nonsensical, baiting off-topic comments.



not interested in flame wars??

YOU sir are a fuckin flame war

good luck trying to get Jeff's thread locked

and as long as you are posting here....WOULD YOU PLEASE START MENTIONING THE PERSON YOU ARE QUOTING?

it is so unreal to expect us to figure out who the fuck you are referring to :wallhead:
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They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Idle No More

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:47 am

Carol Newquist » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:27 am wrote:
Your enthusiastic willingness to comment in detail on source material you haven't read is an inspiration to us all.


Who is "us all?" That's a serious question.


A rhetorical flourish in the service of sarcasm.
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Re: Idle No More

Postby Searcher08 » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:10 am

Carol Newquist » Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:27 pm wrote:
Your enthusiastic willingness to comment in detail on source material you haven't read is an inspiration to us all.


Who is "us all?" That's a serious question. There are a lot of members with active accounts at this forum, and there are many more lurkers, and yet you have the temerity to speak for "all' of them. Very telling. Or, are there not as many members here as the numbers would reveal? Perhaps that could explain why you can so confidently speak for "all." Hmm.......

And, in fact, you were wrong with your statement. As I've noted in the other thread, I'm going to dissect the subversion manual, but no doubt, as I do, whatever thread that's done in will be inundated with all those questions that aren't questions you want me to answer but I won't because I'm not interested in flame wars, but still, it will come fast and furious, I won't respond to it and ignore it, and you will lock the thread because of all those nonsensical, baiting off-topic comments.


Carol has just had an asshole transplant.
Sadly, the asshole has rejected him. :cry:
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Re: Idle No More

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:20 am

could you please use more words Searcher I hear short simple sentences and bad words are out of fashion here :P
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Idle No More

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:26 am

I remember when this was a thread about Idle No More, is all I'm saying, SLAD. I do not appreciate the fact you're making thread after thread into a referendum on Carol. You are exacerbating the problem.

So are cracks about asshole transplants.
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Re: Idle No More

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:36 am

Wombaticus Rex » Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:26 am wrote:I remember when this was a thread about Idle No More, is all I'm saying, SLAD. I do not appreciate the fact you're making thread after thread into a referendum on Carol. You are exacerbating the problem.

So are cracks about asshole transplants.


I have spent literally my whole 10,000 post life on RI posting factual intellectual linked information

I'm the one that resurrected this thread to post news about INM ...don't blame me for this disruption
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They could still get him out of office.
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Don’t forget that.
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Re: Idle No More

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:44 am

seemslikeadream » Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:36 am wrote:I have spent literally my whole 10,000 post life on RI posting factual intellectual linked information

I'm the one that resurrected this thread to post news about INM ...don't blame me for this disruption


You have posted many metric tons of great material here, definitely. You have also spent a lot of those 10,000 posts on interpersonal conflicts, though, let's not kid ourselves.

Your abuse of the eyeroll emoticon is particularly egregious. :roll:

I am not blaming you for this disruption, merely asking that you consider your actions and words. Searcher08, too.
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Re: Idle No More

Postby Carol Newquist » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:03 pm

A rhetorical flourish in the service of sarcasm.


I like that response. You have a way with words. We appreciate it.
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