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Postby 82_28 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:18 pm

We seem to be on an edge all of a sudden. I am noticing it now with this new fleet of "smart" devices. For instance this new Samsung Galaxy Note II I just got is unfathomably smart, it films in HD, takes pics in HD etc. When I type on it, it basically knows what I am about to type next and it LEARNS from me and it gets better at anticipating what I am about to type. It's already learned I like to use the word "fuck". It captures "3D" audio. Like when a squawking bird flies by and I am filming it, goes by ear to ear with almost too perfect ear to ear fading. It has a built in stylus that say you leave it somewhere, it basically tells you, "hey, you left me behind". When taking a picture at night, just having it in front of your face and filming or shooting a subject is MORE CLEAR than the vision I have with my brand new glasses. It knows when to switch back and forth from network to when it finds a WiFi spot. It always knows where you are. It knows the planets, planes, stars and satellites above. It allows me to take pictures of my debit card and use it for transactions. It can sense when other like devices are nearby. It's light, skinny, display is brilliant, has HD camera on both sides, boots in about 4 seconds and has excellent battery life. You can hold it up to a like device and it will automatically transfer data.

Did I mention I can make phone calls on it?

Anyhow, just read this RE the forthcoming Google Glass:

Google Glass app identifies you by your fashion sense


07 March 2013 by Paul Marks
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CAN'T find a face in the crowd? Not to worry, a human recognition system can spot people for you – even when their faces aren't visible. Designed for Google's forthcoming Glass headset, it recognises people by the clothes they are wearing. Their name is then overlaid on the headset's video.

The system, called InSight, is part-funded by Google and was unveiled at the HotMobile technology conference in Jekyll Island, Georgia, last week. It aims to help users find their friends and be spotted themselves in busy places like shopping centres, sports stadia and airports. Face recognition systems cannot be used for this, says InSight developer Srihari Nelakuditi at the University of South Carolina in Columbia, because it is unlikely someone in a crowd will be looking straight at a headset's camera.

So Nelakuditi joined forces with Romit Roy Choudhury and colleagues at Duke University in Durham, North Carolina, to develop a recognition system based on a "fashion fingerprint" of a person's outfit, from their clothes to their jewellery, badges and glasses.

This fingerprint is constructed by a smartphone app which snaps a series of photos of the user as they read web pages, emails or tweets. It then creates a file – called a spatiogram – that captures the spatial distribution of colours, textures and patterns (vertical or horizontal stripes, say) of the clothes they are wearing. This combination of colour, texture and pattern analysis makes someone easier to identify at odd viewing angles or over long distances.

Usefully, in terms of protecting people's privacy, the fingerprint changes every time you change your clothes, so you can be anonymous again whenever you wish.

"A person's visual fingerprint is only temporary, say for a day or an evening," says Nelakuditi.

In early tests using 15 volunteers, the team identified people 93 per cent of the time, even when they had their backs to the headset user. Matching data from the phone's motion sensor with motion in the Glass field of view will boost accuracy.

"There are a lot of personal characteristics that make us unique," says Mark Nixon, a biometrics specialist at the University of Southampton, UK. "Clothing and movement are highly related to gait – and gait has been shown to be unique."

The system could be used by someone who wants to attract attention to themselves and their CV at a job fair, or outside a stadium where they are selling a spare ticket, the team says.

It could perhaps even help people with a condition known as face blindness – a neurological disorder that makes it impossible to recognise others – by telling them the names of friends nearby.


http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2 ... sense.html

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Re: Speculations on time starting back up/google glass

Postby 82_28 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:23 pm

One thing it can't do is when using the stylus compliment the fact I am left handed as my hand, like a chalk board, immediately fucks it all up on the screen. Lefties unite!
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Re: Speculations on time starting back up/google glass

Postby FourthBase » Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:28 pm

I agree. We're altogether creaking just over the apex of a roller-coaster incline. The 300 channels and /b/tards and daily access to the entirety of human knowledge and some kind of critical tipping point of tech-nexuses meeting (did you know that some forms of colorblindness might now be a thing of the past, thanks to another pair of glasses which have far many other uses, too, something even similar to the They Live! glasses, lol?) and it has all spawned a whole new sensibility in the generations next in line, on deck. Hang on tight, carry some deodorant, bring some mace and earplugs, and don't ever lose hope.
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Re: Speculations on time starting back up/google glass

Postby General Patton » Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:46 pm

Think of it like a Heads Up Display (HUD) from a video game.

Giving a very vivid and better representation of data will be very important. Moving from bar graphs to 3d models is a very big step. Another part of this is sensor nets, which is basically linking together all kinds of different sensors(ph, temperature, radiation, pupil dilation, heat...) and devices(your cellphone, for instance) to give our narrow-AI direct access to data, instead of having to manually clean it up and insert it using scripts.

Even complex tasks become much simpler and more manageable when you can break them down into their proper steps and have immediate feedback on what is going on:





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Re: Speculations on time starting back up/google glass

Postby FourthBase » Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:01 pm

Yeah, there are going to be a number of awesome benefits to those glasses, and every such breakthrough.

There will always be cool benefits.
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Re: Speculations on time starting back up/google glass

Postby justdrew » Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:16 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennou_Coil

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EyeTap

It's interesting stuff, but...

Mann finds that due to his extensive use of the device that going without it can cause him to feel "nauseous, unsteady, naked" when he removes it.


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/02/steve_mann_on_google_glass/

Steve Mann: My “Augmediated” Life
What I’ve learned from 35 years of wearing computerized eyewear
By Steve Mann / March 2013

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensorama

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sword_of_Damocles_%28virtual_reality%29



but it's nice to see we're going to get mass marketed versions of 50 year old inventions! :thumbsup
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Re: Speculations on time starting back up/google glass

Postby Luther Blissett » Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:49 pm

I can't figure out if the HotMobile that hosted the conference on Jekyll Island is the same HotMobile corporation that is a subsidiary of Altice Group.
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Postby IanEye » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:09 pm

justdrew wrote:
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Re: Speculations on time starting back up/google glass

Postby 82_28 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:40 pm

I remember seeing that guy and being fascinated by what he was doing back in the 90s. I thought that it would be forever it would take to get to the miniaturization and thought it all possible and was stoked! Now, I hate it. I would like to try it out for sure, just to see. But as a way of life? We shall see, eh? Shit we would have never believed has come unto existence already.

Remember when it was hot news in the earlier 2000s making mobile hotspots out of your back pack full of gear in the activist set? So we could get the message out to the world! Well, we've been circumvented as to intent yet also remaining free as in beer, code and thought. Somebody figured out how to make money as opposed to give back. What they give us is more powerful BUT capricious ways in which we are delivered this "content". Nobody gives jack shit about anything other than selling the next idea. All "platforms" on which to sell the "next idea" on which to sell the next one.

I remember as a kid listening to thrash music with friends having discussions about "how is the music going to get more FAST?" Because that was the deal. In the late 80s and early 90s if you were into that kind of shit, you noticed a hella increase in the speed of the drums. Kinda l guess, I just noticed the limit, while it seemed like everybody else thought shit would get faster and faster. I didn't see how it could. But everyone believed it would. Seems we just switched formats as to speed. Same thing went with the old 90s question of "how fast is your computer?" Then it switched into Ghz. Now nobody cares. They do. But expect it just to function as to the OP. I've got some super fast "quad core 2.7 gigahertz" processor on the phone I am now using. Easily much more fast than the two year old VAIO I am typing on now and requiring no cooling fans.
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Re: Speculations on time starting back up/google glass

Postby psynapz » Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:34 am

Brilliantly conveyed, 82 my friend.

Apologies for the dookie in the Jagermeister here, but I just read this the other day:

The Google Glass feature no one is talking about
http://creativegood.com/blog/the-google-glass-feature-no-one-is-talking-about/

(Great read altogether, but this is the chewy nugout center:)
The key experiential question of Google Glass isn’t what it’s like to wear them, it’s what it’s like to be around someone else who’s wearing them. I’ll give an easy example. Your one-on-one conversation with someone wearing Google Glass is likely to be annoying, because you’ll suspect that you don’t have their undivided attention. And you can’t comfortably ask them to take the glasses off (especially when, inevitably, the device is integrated into prescription lenses). Finally – here’s where the problems really start – you don’t know if they’re taking a video of you.

Now pretend you don’t know a single person who wears Google Glass… and take a walk outside. Anywhere you go in public – any store, any sidewalk, any bus or subway – you’re liable to be recorded: audio and video. Fifty people on the bus might be Glassless, but if a single person wearing Glass gets on, you – and all 49 other passengers – could be recorded. Not just for a temporary throwaway video buffer, like a security camera, but recorded, stored permanently, and shared to the world.

Now, I know the response: “I’m recorded by security cameras all day, it doesn’t bother me, what’s the difference?” Hear me out – I’m not done. What makes Glass so unique is that it’s a Google project. And Google has the capacity to combine Glass with other technologies it owns.

First, take the video feeds from every Google Glass headset, worn by users worldwide. Regardless of whether video is only recorded temporarily, as in the first version of Glass, or always-on, as is certainly possible in future versions, the video all streams into Google’s own cloud of servers. Now add in facial recognition and the identity database that Google is building within Google Plus (with an emphasis on people’s accurate, real-world names): Google’s servers can process video files, at their leisure, to attempt identification on every person appearing in every video. And if Google Plus doesn’t sound like much, note that Mark Zuckerberg has already pledged that Facebook will develop apps for Glass.

Finally, consider the speech-to-text software that Google already employs, both in its servers and on the Glass devices themselves. Any audio in a video could, technically speaking, be converted to text, tagged to the individual who spoke it, and made fully searchable within Google’s search index.

Now our stage is set: not for what will happen, necessarily, but what I just want to point out could technically happen, by combining tools already available within Google.

Let’s return to the bus ride. It’s not a stretch to imagine that you could immediately be identified by that Google Glass user who gets on the bus and turns the camera toward you. Anything you say within earshot could be recorded, associated with the text, and tagged to your online identity. And stored in Google’s search index. Permanently.

I’m still not done.

The really interesting aspect is that all of the indexing, tagging, and storage could happen without the Google Glass user even requesting it. Any video taken by any Google Glass, anywhere, is likely to be stored on Google servers, where any post-processing (facial recognition, speech-to-text, etc.) could happen at the later request of Google, or any other corporate or governmental body, at any point in the future.

Remember when people were kind of creeped out by that car Google drove around to take pictures of your house? Most people got over it, because they got a nice StreetView feature in Google Maps as a result.

Google Glass is like one camera car for each of the thousands, possibly millions, of people who will wear the device – every single day, everywhere they go – on sidewalks, into restaurants, up elevators, around your office, into your home. From now on, starting today, anywhere you go within range of a Google Glass device, everything you do could be recorded and uploaded to Google’s cloud, and stored there for the rest of your life. You won’t know if you’re being recorded or not; and even if you do, you’ll have no way to stop it.

And that, my friends, is the experience that Google Glass creates. That is the experience we should be thinking about. The most important Google Glass experience is not the user experience – it’s the experience of everyone else. The experience of being a citizen, in public, is about to change.

Just think: if a million Google Glasses go out into the world and start storing audio and video of the world around them, the scope of Google search suddenly gets much, much bigger, and that search index will include you. Let me paint a picture. Ten years from now, someone, some company, or some organization, takes an interest in you, wants to know if you’ve ever said anything they consider offensive, or threatening, or just includes a mention of a certain word or phrase they find interesting. A single search query within Google’s cloud – whether initiated by a publicly available search, or a federal subpoena, or anything in between – will instantly bring up documentation of every word you’ve ever spoken within earshot of a Google Glass device.

This is the discussion we should have about Google Glass. The tech community, by all rights, should be leading this discussion. Yet most techies today are still chattering about whether they’ll look cool wearing the device.

Oh, and as for that physical design problem. If Google Glass does well enough in its initial launch to survive to subsequent versions, forget Warby Parker. The next company Google will call is Bausch & Lomb. Why wear bulky glasses when the entire device fits into a contact lens? And that, of course, would be the ultimate expression of the Google Glass idea: a digital world that is even more difficult to turn off, once it’s implanted directly into the user’s body. At that point you’ll not even know who might be recording you. There will be no opting out.
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Re: Speculations on time starting back up/google glass

Postby justdrew » Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:18 am

remember both apple and google have been slammed for their devices accidentally logging location data unasked for. always on audio/video recording would not be a desirable function, sending it away to the cloud for use would be even worse. There's no way that would be acceptable. No one would want that. Anyway, Microsoft already has a patent on that...

Microsoft wants to patent 'life streaming,' turn your whole life into Jersey Shore
By Daniel Cooper posted Aug 23rd, 2012 at 1:58 PM
Imagine a reality TV show that's starring you, recorded by you and directed by Microsoft? That's the principle behind its most recently disclosed patent application, dreaming up a method to transmit data from a "life recorder" to a target device for safe keeping. The company pictures you using your smartphone (or other device -- just a shame the ideal one is Google's) to document your life, before it automatically catalogs, tags and uploads it to elsewhere for friends and family to enjoy. We're not sure if we want our friends from the Hockey Club seeing us freak out at Kelly Clarkson gigs, but hopefully there's an off switch.


they've actually been prototyping and kicking this idea around since way before 2012.

but yeah, it's totally possible that it could come to that. or someone's "glass" could be hacked etc

Then again, it could just be the Opti-Grab all over again...
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Postby justdrew » Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:58 am

IanEye wrote:
justdrew wrote:
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I've liberated this image from 90s Wired photo fads, now he can finally stand up straight...
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Postby Luther Blissett » Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:45 pm

82_28 wrote:I remember as a kid listening to thrash music with friends having discussions about "how is the music going to get more FAST?" Because that was the deal. In the late 80s and early 90s if you were into that kind of shit, you noticed a hella increase in the speed of the drums. Kinda l guess, I just noticed the limit, while it seemed like everybody else thought shit would get faster and faster. I didn't see how it could. But everyone believed it would. Seems we just switched formats as to speed.


I think speed in music reached its logical apex with jungle in the mid-nineties, when rapid beats became solid tones. I know at least a few metalheads who were really into that form and it always perplexed me until now.

The question of sound is much different than the question of receiving information. One has a much more limited cap than the other.
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Postby justdrew » Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:31 pm

Seattle drinking den bans Google Glass geeks

A Seattle bar has issued a preemptive ban of Google Glass to preserve the privacy of its tipplers.

The 5 Point Cafe in Seattle announced plans to suppress the futuristic devices on its Facebook page this week, and didn't mince words.

"The 5 Point is the first Seattle business to ban in advance Google Glasses," the bar wrote. "And ass kickings will be encouraged for violators."

Google Glasses are not yet widely available, though Google is doling out some of the Chocolate Factory goggles to vainglorious creative social media users as part of a breathless neo-utopian marketing campaign.

These Google-enabled cyborgs will want to steer clear of the Seattle watering hole, or risk violent and abrupt inertial-transference disciplinary measures to their derrieres.

The 5 Point Cafe made the decision to ban Google-eyed punters out of respect for the privacy of its clientele.

"You have to understand the culture of The 5 Point which is a sometimes seedy, maybe notorious place and I think people want to go there and be not known," 5 Point owner Dave Meinert tells myNorthwest.

If you're live-streaming this glyph, don't drop by the 5 Point.

"We don't let people film other people or take photos unwanted of other people in the bar because it's kind of a private place people go."

Meinert's anti-Glass stance has struck a chord with the bar's drinking clientele, with many of them speaking up in favor of the ban.

"I plan on carrying flat black spray paint cans for folks who want to google-glass record me without permission," one privacy-conscious tippler wrote... on Facebook.
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Postby wintler2 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:19 pm

What a great leap forward in further abstracting oneself from reality. Perfect pacifier for the growing market who dislike their natural experience.
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