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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby stickdog99 » Mon May 27, 2013 5:17 pm

So it seems as if you have to tie Tamerlan to the triple murder (through the guy the FBI murdered) to tie him to the MIT cop assassination.

Did Boston bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev steal the gun used to kill police officer Sean Collier from victims of 2011 triple homicide?

Earlier this week Boston bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev was implicated in a triple slaying that occurred in 2011.

The girlfriend of one of the victims has now revealed she told police that Tsarnaev knew the murdered men just after the killings.

She also told police her boyfriend, Brendan Mess, had owned a gun but police told her it was missing from the crime scene. The same gun is believed to have been used by the bombing suspects to kill MIT police officer Sean Collier last month.

The girlfriend of one of the three men brutally killed in a Waltham, Massachusetts apartment in 2011 has revealed that she told police soon after the murders that Boston Marathon bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev had been a frequent visitor to the apartment.

The woman, who hasn’t been named, was the girlfriend of Brendan Mess, 25. On Sept. 11, 2011 she found his dead body along with those of Erik Weissman, 31, and Raphael Teken, 37.

Earlier this week Chechan immigrant Ibragim Todashev, 27, was killed by FBI agents but not before he implicated himself and Tsarnaev in the 2011 triple slaying.

A homicide investigation into the 2011 slayings had appeared to have stalled until friends and relatives of Mess reported a possible link to Tsarnaev after his picture was released as a suspect in last month bombings.

The woman, an African immigrant, also revealed that prior to his death, Mess had kept a handgun in his apartment but that police had told her after the bodies were discovered that it was missing.

It is believed (stickdog's note: by whom and based on what?) that Mess’s missing gun was the same weapon Tsarnaev used when he shot MIT police Officer Sean Collier dead on the night of April 18 and wounded other officers shortly afterwards in the shoot-out in Watertown, Boston.

Tsarnaev and Mess had been close friends, so when the woman identified the bombing suspect to police it had been as someone who was a frequent visitor to the apartment, rather than as a possible suspect in the triple homicide.
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby stickdog99 » Mon May 27, 2013 5:22 pm

Wife of guy the FBI shot speaks out

In an interview with the AP, Todashev's wife, Reni Manukyan, 24, who lives in Atlanta, confirmed her husband knew Tsarnaev, but said she has no reason to think they had anything more than social ties.

"Everybody knows everybody where you are from," she said of the immigrant community in Boston. "They were not good friends."

Manukyan also confirmed that federal authorities had been talking to her husband over the last several weeks. She said authorities on Wednesday came simultaneously to Todashev's home, her home in the Atlanta area and her mother's place in Savannah, Ga. "It was only because he knew" Tsarnaev, she said. "That was it."

As for the victims of the triple slaying - Mess, Weissman and Raphael Teken - "we never knew any of them," Manukyan said.
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Postby stickdog99 » Mon May 27, 2013 7:16 pm

Atlantic: Not so fast

Ibragim Todashev may or may not have pulled a knife on investigators in his own apartment. He may or may not have been ready to sign a confession implicating himself and Tamerlan Tsarnaev in a 2011 triple homicide. All we know is that lethal force was used when Todashev was shot and killed early Wednesday morning, and the only people alive to tell us the truth are the Massachusetts State Police officers and FBI agents who were in the room and pulled the trigger.

The facts: Todashev (pronounced TOE-duh-shev) was a 27-year-old ethnic Chechen who hung out with the elder Tsarnaev in Boston and moved to Florida two years ago. He was shot dead after apparently lunging at an officer after walking away from questioning at his condo near Universal Studios in Orlando. What spilled out in the immediate aftermath were reports that 1) Todashev was about to complete his written confession, perhaps strengthening the case against Tsarnaev; and 2) Todashev pulled a knife on investigators, prompting them to kill one of the only men in America who have known when Tsarnaev turned for the worse. Both of those claims seem a lot less solid today, as law enforcement sources reassess their leaks once again in this information flood of case — and as Todashev's family speaks out for the first time.

Claim No. 1: He had a knife.

Where it came from: NBC News was one of the first outlets to turn the tide of the story — that Todashev drew a knife on investigators and that, after orally confessing to the triple murder but not yet finishing his written account, he got violent enough to get himself killed on the spot. The Associated Press attributed their own knife account to three anonymous law enforcement officials.

Is it true? We're not sure, but right now it looks unlikely. A couple of those three officials are now walking back their descriptions to the AP:

Three law enforcement officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Todashev had lunged at the FBI agent with a knife. However, two of those officials said later in the day it was no longer clear what had happened. The third official had not received any new information.


That's 66 percent of sources who are "no longer clear" if Todashev had a knife. The New York Times has one of its two senior law enforcement officials claiming Todashev had a knife "or a pipe or something." In CBS's report, there is no mention of the knife, but rather a violent "move" that Todashev made:

Law enforcement officials say the 27-year-old mixed martial arts fighter made a move that threatened the investigators.
And the FBI's official statement has no mention of a knife being drawn, but rather a "violent confrontation" which might be the "move" CBS is reporting:

The agent, two Massachusetts State Police troopers, and other law enforcement personnel were interviewing an individual in connection with the Boston Marathon bombing investigation when a violent confrontation was initiated by the individual.

Why it matters: Well, one of the big questions is why the FBI used lethal force against Todashev. "This is something they should be trained for," Todashev's wife, Reni Manukyan, tells The Wall Street Journal today. "They should be trained to not use a gun in any way." If Todashev had a knife and charged at law enforcement officials, an argument could be made that lives were in danger. To be sure, he had a history: The Boston Globe describes Todashev as "a professional mixed martial arts fighter with a violent ­record."

But why shoot, when you've got a man with potential answers about the man behind a terror attack on American soil in front of you? "If somebody jumps on you and you have a gun, and you don’t do something, the gun will quickly come into play," one of the Times sources said. As NBC West Palm Beach reported, Todashev was meeting with FBI agents and two Massachusetts state troopers when he was shot. Outlets like New York's Daily News reported that Todashev "stabbed an FBI agent" before being shot — that would be harder to do without a knife.

As Gawker's Max Rivin-Nadler points out, investigators will have to figure out how Todashev, who was being interviewed at his house for three hours, came to be in possession of a knife (and if he actually did) and why a room full of law enforcement agents used lethal force against a man who might have been armed, at most, with a knife. Or something. And they'll have to deal with the fallout in a larger terror investigation and trial of Tsarnaev's younger brother.

Claim No. 2: He was going to own up to the murder, on paper.

Where it came from: The string of the Boston marathon bombing investigation has led investigators to Orlando, to look for answers in the gruesome murder on September 11, 2011 in Waltham, Massachusetts, of three men — including an apparent "best friend" of Tsarnaev — who were left with slit throats and covered in marijuana, an apparent drug deal gone bad but possibly worse... or at least a sign that Tsarnaev had been a drug dealer or a killer before he took what had been thought as the fateful trip to Russian in 2012. Todashev had reportedly been questioned for some time, and had admitted to the investigators at his home that he and Tsarnaev were responsible, but he didn't finish or sign the written confession. And then:

"As investigators pushed at him towards a confession, he snapped," CBS's Bob Orr reported.

"Agents said Todashev was about to sign a confession admitting to a triple slaying that occurred in Boston in 2011," NBC Orlando reported.
"A second law enforcement official confirmed Todashev made the confession," reads CNN's report.

Is it true? Well, it's a dead man's word versus agents and officials close to the investigation. And Todashev's Chechen friends and family, who are insisting that they all distrusted the FBI but cooperated — and that nothing like this was suspected in the "final interview." In the days following the bombing, Todashev's wife tells WFTV in Boston, "He expected that they were going to come and question him, because they both come from the same place from Chechnya." That led to a series of interviews and the seizure of his computer and phone, she told the Journal. "He was supposed to be on a plane tomorrow, but he told he had to meet with the FBI," his father, Abdulbaki Todashev, told The Boston Globe in an interview from Russia today. "They killed my son and then they made up a reason to explain it." Turns out, Todashev didn't have a lawyer.

And if Todashev was going to sign a confession and admit that he and Tsarnaev were guilty of the triple homicide in 2011, his friends sure didn't see it coming. "Several of Todashev's friends told the Sentinel that the FBI told him this week's discussion would be his last interview and that he was going to be cleared," The Orlando Sentinel's Jerriann Sullivan reported. Then again, if you were going to sign a confession admitting to a triple homicide, you probably wouldn't tell your friends, would you?

"I think something went wrong there. I think they just shot him. He didn't do anything. I know him. He just wanted everything to be over," one of Todashev's roommates told NBC West Palm Beach, and his estranged wife added, "He wasn't involved. So he was not even nervous [to talk with the FBI]." Todashev's wife could be talking about the Boston bombings, but she was right about Todashev being cooperative. Todashev, according to CBS, had been talking with the FBI since two days after the Tsarnaev brothers were identified. He even postponed that trip to Chechnya to work with investigators his roommates said, making his "snap" seem even more random.

Why it matters: A confession would have solved the triple homicide, and it would have cemented Tsarnaev's role in that crime. Since reading Dzhokhar Tsarnaev his miranda rights, investigators haven't been able to extract information about the Tsarnaevs as freely as they'd like — or at least it hasn't spilled out in public as much as the people of Boston would like to hear. A confession might have been a big piece in the puzzle of the Tsarnaev brothers. Instead, we're left with a Jack Bauer-style tale of secret confessions turned deadly, with more questions than answers.

What's perhaps more puzzling is that the story doesn't seem to add up: What new piece of information makes a guy who has been cooperating with FBI agents for the last month or so turn on them? Could the seizure of the computer have led to more revelations? Could the threat of jail time have dawned on him? And even more macabre, one of Todashev's friends told NBC Orlando that he had been questioned with Todashev by agents on Tuesday night — and that Todashev felt like he was going to die. "He felt inside he was going to get shot," Khusn Taramiv said. "I told him, 'Everything is going to be fine, don't worry about it.' He said, 'I have a really bad feeling.'"

What happens now? The The Orlando Sentinel reports that the FBI's team of investigators will be picking up the pieces and trying to figure out what exactly happened, as is routine when a suspect who has very important information regarding a terror suspect and unsolved triple homicide is shot to death. The New York Times points out that there may even be public questioning of who, exactly, killed the would-be accomplice: "It was not certain who, or how many officers, had fired on Mr. Todashev." What we do know is that Todashev's death isn't immune to uncertainty, and confusing conflict of facts that have seemingly followed the Tsarnaevs and the FBI for more than six weeks since that fateful afternoon in Boston.
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby pianoblues » Tue May 28, 2013 7:25 am

I think this is interesting info;

http://memoryholeblog.com/2013/05/21/obamas-fema-director-planned-boston-mass-casualty-event-in-2008/#more-4576

Obama’s FEMA Director Planned Boston Mass Casualty Event in 2008 67
Documents • Tags: Boston bombing, news media, police state, public relations

Authored in 2008 by Richard Serino, then-Director of Boston’s Emergency Medical Services, Marathons – A Tale of Two Cities and the Running of a Planned Mass Casualty Event (PDF) provides a detailed and fully operationalized plan for carrying out a mass casualty drill uncannily similar to what transpired at the Boston Marathon bombing on April 15, 2013.

In 2009 Serino retired from his post at Boston EMS after being appointed Deputy Administrator at the Federal Emergency Management Administration by President Barack Obama.

The 39-frame slide presentation details how emergency personnel and resources are to be coordinated and deployed. It also emphasizes “Working with the media.” “Their mission is to get a story,” frame 11 instructs. “Building a longstanding relationship with journalists and reporters ensures that they get the right story and that they serve as a resource when needed.”

Several maps of downtown Boston “based on consistent grid coordinates” and including “zone designations for incident reporting” (frame 26) delineate the Marathon route and finish line area on Boylston Street. Specific procedures for medical providers, including electronic patient tracking via barcodes (frame 31) further indicate the scope and precision of the mock event.

The video below provides an overview of Marathons and still footage suggesting Serino’s on-the-scene direction of the BMB exercise shortly after 2:50PM when the explosives were detonated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWxLD01oWHM

Many thanks to “Skeptical” for bringing this to my attention.

-JFT


The link to the pdf of the publication didn't work for me but here's another;

http://www.integratedtrainingsummit.org ... ichard.pdf
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby stickdog99 » Thu May 30, 2013 2:34 am

Slate Hate

The Boston Bombers’ Awful Parents

They ignored the warnings, they deny the crime, and they’re slinging false accusations.

By William Saletan

Three years ago, al-Qaeda’s magazine, Inspire, published an article titled, “Make a bomb in the kitchen of your Mom .” The article explained how to build a pressure-cooker device like the ones that blew up last week at the Boston marathon. But the recipe left out the most important ingredient. To make a bomb in your mom’s kitchen, the first thing you need is an inattentive mom.

That’s what Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev had. We don’t yet know where or when they made the bombs they’re accused of planting at the marathon. But we do know that their father, Anzor Tsarnaev, and their mother, Zubeidat Tsarnaeva, had plenty of warnings that Tamerlan was becoming dangerous. Tamerlan was a human pressure cooker loaded with zeal, violence, and destructive ideology. His parents, blinded by adoration and excuses, refused to see it.

Most people who met or knew Tamerlan, including family members , say he was a jerk . His dad, however, insists Tamerlan was “kind ” and “very nice .” Anzor “lost control over that family quite a time ago ,” says his brother Ruslan. In every interview, Anzor claims to know exactly what his kids have been up to, though he hasn’t seen them since he moved back to Dagestan a year ago. He also claims, falsely , that Tamerlan “was never out of my sight ” during the young man’s visit to Dagestan last year. According to Anzor, Tamerlan was such a boxing stud that “in the U.S. everyone knows he is a celebrity.” When Anzor left Boston, he asked Tamerlan to keep an eye on Dzhokhar . He thinks the elder brother has been keeping the younger one away from bad influences .

Tamerlan’s mother is just as deluded. She swears Tamerlan and Dzhokhar couldn’t be involved in a bomb plot because “my sons would never keep a secret .” Instead of correcting Tamerlan’s conspiracy theories, she swallowed them. According to one of her spa clients, Zubeidat recently called the 9/11 attacks a U.S. plot to stoke hatred of Muslims. “My son knows all about it ,” she allegedly told the client. Zubeidat also says the FBI has been watching her family constantly for years , which the FBI denies. Last year, she was arrested, but apparently never prosecuted, for shoplifting $1,600 worth of clothes .

Anzor and Zubeidat were given several warnings that Tamerlan was headed for trouble. Sometime between 2007 and 2009, Tamerlan and Zubeidat turned to religion. Zubeidat became observant, but Tamerlan became intolerant and hostile. He pushed his strict views on the rest of the family , causing tensions. When his sister married a non-Muslim, Tamerlan didn’t accept the man. Tamerlan’s uncle, Ruslan, perceived a change in his nephew’s personality. Ruslan says a family friend told him in 2009 that a Muslim convert had “brainwashed ” Tamerlan.

The tension exploded when Tamerlan, in a conversation during that period, called Ruslan an “infidel .” Tamerlan also challenged another uncle, Alvi Tsarni, to a fight . No one in the family has explained what words ensued between the parents and the uncles, but both uncles cut off contact with the Tsarnaevs. Ruslan says his beef was with “the way they were bringing the children up .” Anzor, unchastened even by the marathon bombings, says the uncles don’t really know his kids. “They are just blabbing what they know nothing about ,” he told the New York Times on Friday.
Around this time, Tamerlan was arrested and charged with domestic violence for hitting his girlfriend. “Yes, I slapped her ,” he told police. The case was eventually dismissed, and Anzor brushed it off. “He hit her lightly ,” Anzor told the Times. “There was jealousy … In America you can’t touch a woman.”

In early 2011, two FBI agents, provoked by an alert from Russian intelligence, came to the Tsarnaevs’ apartment to speak to the family about Tamerlan. Zubeidat says the agents explained that Tamerlan was visiting “extremist sites” and that “they were afraid of him .” She says Tamerlan answered the agents defiantly, "I am in a country that gives me the right to read whatever I want and watch whatever I want .” Anzor shrugged off the warning: "I knew what he was doing, where he was going. I raised my children right .” Zubeidat says the agents investigated Tamerlan only because "he loved Islam ."

So the warnings passed. When the marathon bombs exploded, and videos implicated Tamerlan and Dzhokhar, the uncles acknowledged the evidence, but the parents didn’t. They didn’t just stammer, as many parents would, that their sons couldn’t have done it. They declared that the young men had been “set up ,” and they hurled conspiracy theories at the authorities. “The police are to blame ,” said Anzor. “Being cowards, they shot the boy dead. There are cops like this .” He denounced the pursuit of his sons by law enforcement as “a provocation of the special services who went after them because my sons are Muslims and don’t have anyone in America to protect them .” Zubeidat said the authorities “wanted to eliminate [Tamerlan] as a threat because he was in love with Islam .”

Anzor’s sister, Maret Tsarnaeva, echoed these self-deceptions. “Growing up, within the family, everything was perfect ,” she told reporters on Friday. Her nephews had no motive to bomb anyone, she insisted: “For what beliefs? I don’t know them to have any strong beliefs .” She concluded that “our boys were framed .” When reporters showed her video evidence implicating them, she replied: “The picture was staged .”
Neighbors and congregants at Tamerlan’s mosque had warnings, too. In November 2012, he angrily rebuked a merchant in Cambridge for advertising Thanksgiving turkeys, which Tamerlan viewed as an affront to Islamic law. At Friday prayers, he disrupted and criticized a sermon that defended the celebration of Thanksgiving and July 4. Two months later, he interrupted an imam who suggested that Martin Luther King, Jr., like the Prophet Mohammed, was worthy of emulation. Tamerlan protested that King was “not a Muslim ,” and he called the imam a “Kafir,” or non-believer. Some of the congregants threatened to expel Tamerlan, but apparently, none of them reported him to the authorities, since, as far as they knew, he hadn’t preached or committed any violence.

You can’t expect witnesses to report every fanatical outburst to the FBI. But when family members are repeatedly exposed to signs that a loved one is drifting into the vortex of violent extremism, they have a duty to intervene, or at least to alert someone. If they don’t, and the fanatic becomes a killer, they bear an awful responsibility. If they deny that responsibility by accusing the police and the government of anti-Islamic conspiracies, they forfeit our sympathy, our respect, and our trust. Police your family. Police your congregation. Police your community. If you don’t, the rest of us will do it for you.
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Todashev Never Had a Shiv

The Chechen man who was fatally shot by an FBI agent last week during an interview about one of the Boston bombing suspects was unarmed, law enforcement officials said Wednesday.

An air of mystery has surrounded the FBI shooting of Ibragim Todashev, 27, since it occurred in Todashev’s apartment early on the morning of May 22. The FBI said in a news release that day that Todashev, a former Boston resident who knew bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev, was killed during an interview with several law enforcement officers.

The FBI has provided few other details, saying that the matter is being investigated by an FBI review team that may not finish its probe for several months.

“The FBI takes very seriously any shooting incidents involving our agents and as such we have an effective, time-tested process for addressing them internally,” FBI spokesman Paul Bresson said in a statement Wednesday. “The review process is thorough and objective and conducted as expeditiously as possible under the circumstances.”

The Florida chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations on Wednesday called for an independent investigation by the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division. Officials said the division and local prosecutors are already reviewing the case.

At the time of the shooting, Todashev was being interviewed about his possible connection to a triple murder in Waltham, Mass., on Sept. 11, 2011. Law enforcement officials said he had acknowledged involvement in the murders and had implicated Tsarnaev. Officials said Todashev was not suspected of involvement in the April 15 Boston bombing.

Tsarnaev was killed in a shootout with police four days after the bombing. His younger brother, Dzhokhar, was captured later that day and remains in custody.

In the statement about Todashev’s shooting issued on the day of the incident, the FBI said that an agent, along with two Massachusetts State Police troopers and other law enforcement personnel, were interviewing “an individual” in connection with the Boston Marathon bombing investigation when a “violent confrontation was initiated by the individual.”

An agent sustained non-life-threatening injuries, later described by one law enforcement official as “some cuts and abrasions.”

Initial reports citing anonymous law-enforcement individuals provided conflicting accounts of what happened. Some law enforcement officials said Todashev wielded a knife and others suggested that he attempted to grab the FBI agent’s gun.

One law enforcement official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation, said Wednesday that Todashev lunged at the agent and overturned a table. But the official said Todashev did not have a gun or a knife. A second official also said Todashev was unarmed.

An official said that according to one account of the shooting, the other law enforcement officials had just stepped out of the room, leaving the FBI agent alone with Todashev, when the confrontation occurred. The shooting followed hours of questioning by the law enforcement officials that had begun the night before.

Todashev’s father said after the shooting that he didn’t believe the FBI’s account of why they killed his son. “My son could never commit a crime, I know my son too well,” Abdul-Baki Todashev, who lives in Chechnya, told the Daily Beast Web site. “He worked helping disabled people in America and did sports, coached other sportsmen. The FBI made up their accusations.”
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Postby barracuda » Thu May 30, 2013 10:39 am

Officer Collier Shooting: “Rosebud” Moment Of The Boston Bombing? The Contradictions Keep Coming
By Russ Baker on May 23, 2013

All one has to do is consider the eyewitness accounts of the shootout in Watertown to realize that the Tsarnaev brothers were almost certainly not—as a surprisingly large number of people posting comments on this site and around the Internet seem to believe—harmless naïfs who did nothing wrong. Whether or not they planted the bombs at the 2013 Boston Marathon, whether or not they acted alone or in concert with others, whether they were ideologues or dupes, it seems evident that they were involved in some kind of violent adventure culminating in the death of Tamerlan Tsarnaev and the shooting and apprehension of his brother Dzhokhar.

I spent Wednesday of this week talking to residents of the streets where the shootouts took place, and there doesn’t seem to be any doubt that both brothers were there, were armed, and threw bombs at police.

Nonetheless, many aspects of the story remain unclear, and decidedly troublesome. And getting to the bottom of this complex story is not just an option—we cannot afford as a society to have large traumas of this sort come and go without clarity. Otherwise, we are all dupes, of one kind or another.

We’ve raised reasonable questions about the events surrounding the Marathon bombing in previous articles, from the presence of mysterious black-clad security men with well-stuffed backpacks at the race to the FBI and CIA’s awareness of the Tsarnaev family long before April 15, 2013. (See this, this and this.)

Now, some might say that nothing else matters as long as police got their men. However, it is often in the details, the “weeds,” if you will, where we find that a narrative can be useful as far as it goes and yet terribly misleading in terms of what it all means. As we’ve noted, many much-loved historical narratives turn out to be little more than carefully crafted myths around a few core facts.

Our media and our leading interpreters of events explain everything in terms that the unsophisticated can easily grasp. Yet in the real world, happenings may take place for a welter of reasons that even those directly involved may not be aware of.

It is with this in mind that we’ve been down in the weeds.

The “Confession”

If there’s one thing out of all the “facts” that emerged in the early hours and days after the bombing that cemented the Tsarnaevs’ capital-G Guilt, it was, unquestionably, the killing of MIT police officer Sean Collier on the night of Thursday, April 18, three days after the explosions at the Marathon.

At the time of Collier’s shooting, the FBI had just released video of two unnamed “persons of interest” walking with backpacks—shown amid many other people walking with backpacks. The still-anonymous Tsarnaevs were nothing more than people with whom the FBI wanted to talk. No hard evidence had been released that connected them to the bombing itself.

Within hours of the FBI video release, everything went nuts. First came word of “officer down” at MIT. Then, quickly, news of a carjacking. Then police swarming everywhere. Then a shootout and the death of one suspect, followed by a lull, and then the discovery and near-death of the second suspect.

Soon came the narrative to explain much, if not all. The suspects in the video had been behind both the bombing and the killing of the police officer. We knew that because the carjacking victim had escaped, and told police and later selected media how his captors had confessed to him.

Boston Globe reporter Eric Moskowitz gained cooperation from the still-unnamed hostage (nicknamed “Danny”). Here’s a portion of Danny’s tale, in which the elder Tsarnaev, Tamerlan, confessed during the carjacking:

    He asked if [Danny] had followed the news about Monday’s Boston Marathon bombings…

    [snip]

    “I did that,” said the man, who would later be identified as Tamerlan Tsarnaev. “And I just killed a policeman in Cambridge.”

We’ll have more to say about the carjacking in a subsequent article. But for now, the key thing to remember is that in some ways, the shooting of Officer Collier immediately before the carjacking and the alleged confession in the car—to both crimes—were absolutely essential in creating the first profile of the Tsarnaevs as murder-minded individuals, not just two guys on a video wearing backpacks.

Collier as Officer Tippit

Besides playing a central role in establishing a case against the brothers, Collier’s death also served a powerful symbolic purpose in the official narrative, with a huge memorial service for the MIT officer on April 24, addressed by Vice President Biden. Throughout, the spotlight has been on Collier as Hero—a kind of ritualistic hagiography devoid of any inclination to investigate the actual circumstances of his death.

For students of history, however, this part of the narrative had a familiar ring. Exactly half a century ago, another traumatic event took place: the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. The big break in that case came several hours later, when a police officer, J.D. Tippit, was shot and killed. Soon, one of the many employees in a tall building on Kennedy’s parade route, Lee Harvey Oswald, was connected to both events. Like Tamerlan Tsarnaev, he had recently spent time in Russia. Like Tamerlan Tsarnaev, he had been under scrutiny by the FBI before the crime.

In both cases, it was the killing of a police officer that turbocharged the police pursuit—and that, once the suspect was apprehended, convinced the public quickly that the police had their man.

Until the shooting of officer Collier, the Tsarnaevs were just two guys seen on a video wearing backpacks. And until the Tippit shooting, Oswald was just one of many employees in a building that most eyewitnesses felt was not even the source of the shots that killed Kennedy.

In both cases, the shooting of the police officer did not make a lot of sense in the context of the “main event” – but nevertheless gave the pursuit a jolt of adrenaline. Only later would crucial details of the narrative be changed—at a time when few would notice.

A Myth

In the case of Oswald, serious doubts would emerge as to whether he had killed Officer Tippit.

In the case of Officer Collier, if we look carefully, we can see that the script was rewritten after most people stopped paying attention.

Early reports left the impression that Collier had some kind of active interaction with his killers.

Here’s the Associated Press from that night:

    Cambridge police and the Middlesex District Attorney’s office says the officer was responding to a report of a disturbance when he was shot multiple times.

Here’s the MIT News—the publication of the university’s administration—several days later:

    On the evening of Thursday, April 18, MIT Police Officer Sean Collier was shot and killed in the line of duty following an altercation at the corner of Vassar Street and Main Street on the MIT campus.

And here’s the Los Angeles Times on April 23, five days after Collier’s death:

    WASHINGTON–Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev allegedly shot and killed a Massachusetts Institute of Technology police officer Thursday because they wanted his service revolver, according to two federal government law enforcement officials who have been briefed on the Boston Marathon manhunt.

    They came upon Collier outside a gas station and convenience store near the MIT campus in Cambridge. He was apparently shot multiple times, but had left a safety device on his holster that the suspects could not unlock to retrieve the weapon.

    It was unclear which brother shot the officer, the officials said. However, authorities have obtained a surveillance photo of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, dressed in a gray hoodie, at the store.

This is a false story, circulated days after the events. Collier was not outside a gas station and convenience store. Dzhokhar certainly appears to have gone into a gas station/convenience store later that evening, but Collier was not there and no murder took place at that time. Collier did not respond to a disturbance. He did not approach anyone. In fact, it’s likely he never even knew who shot him.

To this day, hardly anyone in the general public is aware of this glitch in the narrative. Yet it is very important. Because if the initial story had been, “unknown persons came up behind a police officer sitting quietly in his patrol car and shot him for no apparent reason, not even taking his firearm” – that would no doubt have triggered a very different media response.

Keeping up the Hero Story

It was for some reason very important to someone that the death of this police officer be projected on a massive screen. Consider the content and tone of this, from the Boston Herald:

    Thousands of students and law enforcement officers from across the country have packed the Massachusetts Institute of Technology campus to honor fallen MIT Police Officer Sean Collier who was remembered as a joy-filled, caring and compassionate man who believed kindness could change society.

    MIT set aside 15,000 seats at Briggs Field and every one was filled, with law enforcement officers making up two-thirds of the heartbroken audience.

Here’s the Atlantic Wire:

    MIT held a public memorial service Wednesday afternoon for fallen officer Sean Collier on their Briggs Field, where the 26-year-old university police officer was remembered for his commitment to the school community, his love of country music, and his dedication to his job. Vice President Joe Biden closed the ceremony’s remarks, offering words of condolence to the family from the perspective of someone who had also lost a child—before offering a scathing indictment of the Tsarnaev brothers’ terrorism.

    MIT cancelled classes for the service, which brought together members of the MIT community, law enforcement officers, and public officials. A private funeral was held Tuesday. Yesterday, CBS News reported that Collier may have been killed because the Tsarnaev brothers wanted his gun.

Yet, even after it was clear that Collier had done nothing more than sit in his car while someone came up behind him and shot him, the authorities were still feeling it necessary to lay it on thick. On April 25, a week after Collier’s death, the New York Times was reporting

    “I [still] consider him a hero,” Boston’s police commissioner, Edward Davis, said in an interview this week. “It was his death that ultimately led to the apprehension. The report of the shot officer led to all those resources being poured in.”

A cop had been shot, “all those resources” were poured into that general vicinity, and a juggernaut had been launched. There was nothing that would reverse it. Indeed, a month after Collier’s death, a Cambridge, MA, brewery announced it was issuing a special “Collier Stout” in his honor.

Why were we more upset over Collier’s death than other deaths of law enforcement personnel? Because it was linked, in the public’s mind, with the assault upon America itself at the Marathon. The killing of Collier, we were told, was an act against us all. “Boston Strong.” “America Strong.” In a sense, when we wore those ribbons, attended those mass ceremonies, we were mourning, yet again, our loss of innocence in the face of a world that seems to be spinning out of control.

Why Was Collier Killed?

Here’s what we were told at the time of that memorial service:

    Until now, it is not been clear why the officer – who was laid to rest today at a private funeral service in his hometown of Stoneham, Massachusetts – was shot dead.

    The officer was slain execution-style as he sat in his patrol car at the MIT campus in the suburb of Cambridge.

    But now, according to CBS News, police believe the officer was ambushed by the Tsarnaev brothers in a botched attempt to take his gun to boost their arsenal of just one real gun and a pellet gun.

We have been told that, perhaps, the brothers wanted his gun.

Yet, they did not take it. The police chief explained that maybe they could not get it out of his holster, because it was found still in the holster. But it is also possible that whoever shot him was not interested in taking his gun.

It is also important to understand that the CBS News coverage—including the dubious claim that Collier was killed in an attempt to get his gun, and the belated story that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev scrawled a confession on the interior walls of a boat while he lay bloody and grievously wounded – is helmed by John Miller, CBS Senior Correspondent, who between journalistic stints served as the top spokesman for the FBI. In other words, it is an FBI insider who is guiding the narrative. Of course, the FBI itself has serious credibility problems, including the fact that it failed to disclose that it knew exactly who the Tsarnaevs were, long before the bombing. (On May 22, an FBI agent shot and killed Ibragim Todashev, another person of Chechen origin connected to the story and the investigation—whom a friend claims had recently warned him that he felt he was in the process of being framed; and who reportedly had, at the time of his death, just confessed.)

As we previously noted, all of these shootings warrant a closer look—including why so many shots were fired at Dzhokhar Tsarnaev as he lay wounded in that boat, firing not a single shot, and given the potential importance of him as a witness.

All of this must be addressed. But for the purposes of this article, let’s stay focused on Officer Collier’s death—and the circumstances surrounding it.

Why Would the Brothers Have Been on the MIT Campus?

Nobody seems to know. Would they have been there because they knew they would find an officer sitting in his car between buildings? If not, it means the brothers randomly passed through this unlikely area and happened upon Collier in his unlikely spot, snuck up behind him, killed him, and then—took nothing.

Why Collier Was Where He Was

Why was Collier even sitting in his police car at that time? According to news accounts, Collier was parked near the intersection of two streets in Cambridge for the purpose of preventing illegal shortcuts through campus. Here’s the Boston Globe’s account:

    About 9:30 p.m., Collier was on routine patrol. He was parked by the corner of Vassar and Main streets. It was a spot where motorists would sometimes take a chance, making an illegal shortcut through campus to avoid a red light.

    “We ask patrols to sit there,” DiFava explained. It prevents the forbidden cut-throughs and it provides a high-profile presence for the MIT community.

Something crucial is missing from this account. Collier was not parked on the street. He was parked on the pavement, a distance from the corner, between two campus buildings. When I asked students about the scenario Chief DiFava presented, they were baffled. They didn’t recall patrols sitting between those buildings, and it was not apparent how or why anyone would save a minute at a red light by climbing the pavement and driving between buildings.

With crazed terrorist bombers on the loose, why was this officer sitting where he was? I hoped to clear this up with Chief DiFava. Especially since DiFava is not just MIT’s police chief, but also the chief of MIT “facilities operations.” Thus, he had oversight of facilities including the many sensitive research facilities scattered around the campus, some close to where Collier died.

At the campus police station, I was first told that he was…in Guatemala. Why Guatemala? Why go so far away to a foreign country at the very time that everyone most wanted to talk to him? In any case, I was soon informed that he had been in Guatemala, but just returned. But he had left again. Now he was in Washington. Why Washington? Something to do with the case? But again I was told he was back, but out on business off campus.

Then I was told that maybe he was not off campus, but that in any case, he preferred not to talk. I wondered why that would be, when he had already shown a willingness to talk. Then I was told that I needed to go through the MIT central authorities. Was it the chief who did not want to talk, or was he told not to?

I tried to talk to the Emergency Medical Technicians, students who volunteer to handle campus emergencies, and whose colleagues showed up with their ambulance at the scene of the shooting—they declined and I left. And then I got this email from MIT’s Executive Vice President for Communications:

    Mr. Baker,

    I have heard from a number of people at MIT that you have been on campus today wanting to ask people questions about the week of the marathon.

    Your approach—visiting very busy people in person unannounced to ask them about this painful subject—is not productive, and in some cases, it has proved upsetting. I need to ask that you please follow the guidance that my colleague….. gave you over the phone today. You should email her whatever questions you have, and we can go from there.

    Can you agree to this, please?

The Video

Significantly, we’ve been assured that the Tsarnaevs were Collier’s killers.

Here’s a report from the afternoon of Friday, April 19, from the Associated Press—probably the major source of information for the nation’s media, essentially stating that the Tsarnaevs committed the shooting:

    WATERTOWN, Mass. (AP) — Two suspects in the Boston Marathon bombing — identified to The Associated Press as coming from the Russian region near Chechnya — killed an MIT police officer, injured a transit officer in a firefight and threw explosive devices at police during their getaway attempt in a long night of violence that left one of them dead and another still at large Friday, authorities said.

Nine days later, on April 28, we see this from the Boston Globe’s mega-narrative of the sprawling affair:

    Authorities say video from a surveillance camera shows the suspects approaching Collier’s car from the rear as he sat in his cruiser. Collier was shot five times, including twice in the head, officials said.

“The suspects.” In a long article about the Tsarnaevs, it is reasonable to conclude that the Globe means the Tsarnaevs.

It is all much more unclear. On April 25, several days before the Globe published the bit above, the New York Times offered a crucial but underplayed distinction:

    While there is video of two men approaching Officer Collier’s car, three law enforcement officials said, it does not clearly show their faces. But investigators now believe the brothers killed the officer to get another gun.

The Times reports that the video does not establish with certainty the identity of Collier’s murderers. Yet the next sentence accepts as a certainty that it was the brothers.

Murkier and Murkier

In a story full of weird twists, here’s another: one of the first responders to the scene at MIT was himself later shot in Watertown. In the early accounts, we were told:

    One of the first responders to the scene of the officer’s death was police officer Richard Donohue, who had gone through the police academy at the same time as Officer Collier.

    A few hours later, he would be critically wounded in the Watertown shootout with the Tsarnaev brothers.

What are the odds? Of all the law enforcement people who could get shot in Watertown, only Donohue was. Unlike Collier, Donohue was a Boston transit policeman—but the two were good friends.

And then, more….We learned later that Donohue was hit not by the Tsarnaevs, but by “friendly fire.” That is, an early witness on the scene of the mysterious shooting of Officer Collier shortly thereafter became himself the victim of a strange shooting— by fellow law enforcement officers.

Donohue survived and, according to the Boston Globe on May 19, is saying nothing about that night because he … can’t:

    Officer Richard “Dic” Donohue of the MBTA Transit Police remembers almost
    nothing of the night he was shot during chaotic gunfire on a normally quiet
    Watertown street, or of the murder of his close friend, MIT police Officer
    Sean Collier, hours before in Cambridge.

An editor at The Globe told me they’d received tremendous grief from police for reporting the fact that Donohue had apparently been shot by fellow officers. This despite the fact that the paper hardly focused on that, initially reporting it in an article where it was almost mentioned in passing. Nonetheless—or perhaps because of the sensitivity, we’ve seen surprisingly little coverage of this angle by the local and national media.
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby hiddenite » Thu May 30, 2013 3:21 pm

That's an interesting take ,Barracuda . I like the "follow the weeds" strategy .
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Postby 8bitagent » Thu May 30, 2013 4:23 pm


All one has to do is consider the eyewitness accounts of the shootout in Watertown to realize that the Tsarnaev brothers were almost certainly not—as a surprisingly large number of people posting comments on this site and around the Internet seem to believe—harmless naïfs who did nothing wrong

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Now, some might say that nothing else matters as long as police got their men. However, it is often in the details, the “weeds,” if you will, where we find that a narrative can be useful as far as it goes and yet terribly misleading in terms of what it all means. As we’ve noted, many much-loved historical narratives turn out to be little more than carefully crafted myths around a few core facts.


THIS gets at the HEART OF THE MATTER I feel.

Way too often conspiracy researchers and followers paint this black and white idea. "False flag", "framed", "innocent". They completely miss the big picture.
For example, 9/11 was absolutely not a false flag, as that implies "al Qaeda" or bin Laden were framed. The hijackers could have been total mind controlled but al Qaeda was a willing servant perhaps
in a bigger cog to a higher power. But not innocent. Same thing with Mcveigh. He was a willing servant.

Someone like Sirhan Sirhan because of the situation I can see as innocent. A young man severely injured from a head accident brainwashed by spooks from the Rosicrucian center.

But no way on hell is the late Tamerlan or "Jahar" innocent. There could have been a wider plan, where Tamerlan was carrying it out and Dzhokar just was following orders. Or mind control.
But I do believe they physically planted the bombs and had a violent altercation with cops. I don't know what to make of the MIT cop shooting or "Danny" or anything else.
Even Oswald...I think innocent is a naive term. As clearly he was deeply involved in something relating to the JFK operation.

The Boston shooting has a lot of tentacles. I havent seen anything AHA! Eureka yet pointing to a direct black op, as I have with Madrid or 9/11. However there's a lot of curious things. The mixed martial arts killing
situation. The FBI and FSB watching. The Graham Fuller connection. The entire Chechnya thing
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby 8bitagent » Thu May 30, 2013 4:25 pm

hiddenite » Thu May 30, 2013 2:21 pm wrote:That's an interesting take ,Barracuda . I like the "follow the weeds" strategy .



I agree, and interesting analog between the Colliers shooting and Tippet.

Like Timothy Mcveigh said about he and Nichols, the surviving brother said "oh it was all just us"(paraphrasing) All done to protest the wars. Mcveigh said it was done to protest Waco and the Clinton administration.
Nothing to see here folks!
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby barracuda » Thu May 30, 2013 10:16 pm

Well, well, well, look who's sitting up and taking soup:

MAKHACHKALA, Russia — The remaining suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings has recovered enough to walk and assured his parents in a phone conversation that he and his slain brother were innocent, their mother told The Associated Press on Thursday.


http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/0 ... story.html
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby stickdog99 » Fri May 31, 2013 1:27 am

barracuda » 31 May 2013 02:16 wrote:Well, well, well, look who's sitting up and taking soup:

MAKHACHKALA, Russia — The remaining suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings has recovered enough to walk and assured his parents in a phone conversation that he and his slain brother were innocent, their mother told The Associated Press on Thursday.


http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/0 ... story.html


His mother says that he says he is 100% innocent. Unnamed spooks say that he said he was 100% guilty. 8bitagent says that he may not be 100% guilty but there is no way he is 100% innocent. I say that he is innocent until proven guilty and that I have yet to see anything that passes the smell test that makes me think he is anything but a patsy.

Whom to believe?
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Re: Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

Postby stickdog99 » Fri May 31, 2013 3:33 am

Where is the ballistic evidence that connects the brothers to the cop's shooting or to the circular firing squad the cops had with one another? The brothers had just one gun between them, so this shouldn't be too hard. Where is the fingerprint evidence of the stoner kid on the steering wheel of the Mercedes SUV or on the handles of the exploded or unexploded bombs? Where is the autopsy evidence that his older brother fired his weapon dozens of times? Where and with what funds did his older brother purchase his gun and scores of rounds of ammo?

Where/how/with whose help did the brothers make the 7+ bombs they had? How did they detonate these bombs at the Boston Marathon? Did the bombs that were exploded/confiscated in the shootout match those exploded at the finish line? Was the explosive material in all these bombs made from readily available fireworks? If so, where, by whom and with what funds were the rest of these fireworks purchased? Where, by whom and with what funds were all the pressure cookers purchased? And why keep one of the fireworks in your dorm room?

Note that all of these brothers' email, text and phone communications and every credit card purchase and bank transaction since sometime around 9/11/01 are now property of the FBI and prosecuting team. Does any of this evidence point to their guilt? If so, why hasn't any of it been leaked?

The only "evidence" that been leaked to this point is Danny's anonymous tale, prosecutor-friendly telephone line translations of what the kid supposedly wrote out for the elite terrorist interrogation team while he was unable to talk in critical condition, and prosecutor-friendly telephone line translations of what the kid supposedly wrote out on the boat where he hid unarmed until the police arrested him in a one way firefight. Not a single piece of this "evidence" has come from any named, on the record source.

Just saying. None of this has changed to date, as far as I can tell. Am I wrong? If so, please tell me how I am wrong. I haven't had time to read every single bit on information released over the past week, so maybe I missed something.
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