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Postby Blue » Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:34 am

How Absurd: 8 Crazy Reactions, Ridiculous Conclusions, and Dumb Media Behavior Coming out of the Boston Bombings

April 19, 2013 |



The manhunt is over with the arrest Friday of a second suspect in the Boston marathon bombing. But manhunt will live in infamy in the history of American civil liberties.

The city where the American Revolution began its fight against governmental overreach surrendered to the most outsized and disproportionate display of paramilitary policing in America in decades. One must ask if the manhunt that shut down an entire city to catch one 19-year-old on the run—who was found hiding and cowering in a backyard—did more to terrorize Bostonians than the attack on the Boston marathon itself.

There are many places in the world where terrorism is a real problem. But the U.S. is not one of them. Since the Sepember 11 attacks, the country has been very lucky and avoided blowback from its foreign wars. Think about it. One guy is loose, in one neighborhood, and an entire city is shut down. A total curfew is imposed. The transportation system is shut down. Police wielding their fiercest weaponry sweep home after home.

Bostonians were shocked and allow it to unfold—because what individual can stand up to such totalitarian power? And media organization after media organization called for more of it—embracing the security state mentality and its huge overreaction. A lone nineteen year old is on the run—not a foreign army or team of undercover Al Queda operatives. Nonetheless, police and political leaders disrupt and control the lives of millions.

Let’s look at some of the crazy reactions, ridiculous conclusions and dumb media behaviors that came out of Boston in the past 48 hours.

1. Unbelievable overreaction. An entire city was shut down and stayed shut in a massive manhunt for a skinny teenager in a grey hoodie. Yes, he may have had bombs and guns. But by Thursday night, when the first bomber—his brother—was killed by police, this paramilitary operation knew its targets were closer to the shooters from Colorado’s Columbine High School massacre, not foreign terrorists.

More than a million people were ordered to stay home and lock their doors, allowing no one but uniformed officers in. A public transit system serving 1.3 million people was shut down. Amtrak service between New York and Boston stopped. The Red Sox and Bruins postponed their Friday night games. Businesses were shut. The list goes on and on.

2. Massive display of military might. Every SWAT team and paramilitary vehicle from southern New Hampshire to Cape Cod descended on Boston. It’s one thing to surround several blocks and sweep through back yards and homes—without search warrants. But this was far more extensive. And when the second bomber was found—it wasn’t even from the police manhunt! It was by a homeowner who saw the canvas flap on a boat stored in his backyard had been untied. The suspect was cowering inside, wounded.

3. Then Dumb Politicans Weigh In. But media stampedes like the manhunt egg on the most ridiculous statements, such as Texas Republican Rep. Louis Gohmert’s assertion that the lockdown showed that new federal gun controls were wrong and instead that homeowners needed to be more heavily armed. “How many rounds do you want to be limited to in your magazine as you sit in your chair and wait?” he said.

Not to be outdone, North Carolina Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, tweeted, “Don’t read Tsarnaev his rights, if you catch him alive.”

4. Meanwhile, the security state missed suspect No. 1. The FBI said Friday that they had interviewed Boston Marathon bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2011, after a foreign government alerted officials of possible extremist ties. Federal officials told CBS News that they vetted the Chechen refugee but found no incriminating information.


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5. More Government Surveillance Is Called for. When the going gets cynical, the cynics turn pro—or lobby Congress to expand the surveillance state. As Salon.com reported, “Stewart Baker, a senior Department of Homeland Security official in the administration of George W. Bush, argues that the Boston Marathon bombings prove that surveillance cameras are awesome and Congress should pass CISPA — the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act.” Wonderful.

6. The Internet and social media take over. Maybe the expectation of privacy is so 20th century, as is the legal doctine of innocent until proven guilty. One very creepy aspect of the manhunt was how people on social media platform became amateur detectives and started posting inaccurate information about innocent people—just like the New York Post’s frontpage. As Salon reported:

“Remember how thousands of Reddit users and 4chan people spent the days after the bombing combing through every available photo and frame of video of the site of the bombings, searching for the perpetrators, and they found a bunch of guys with backpacks — so many guys they made a spreadsheet! — and (inadvertently) allowed the New York Post to identify, on the front page, two innocent people as the bombers?”

Andperhaps epitomized by the faulty reporting by John King on CNN, theTV news reporters went way too fast.

7. All the crazies come out and get far too much attention. Of course, the right wing echo chamber bellowed. Michael Savage spread ludicrous and wildly dangerous conspiracy theories about Muslims in America. Alex Jones claimed the suspects revealed in FBI photos looked "Israeli." Glenn Beck wouldn't let go of his own pet conspiracy theory about a Saudi Arabian.

8. Allegations of hate acts against apparent Muslims. All this misinformation and police overreach has dismaying consequences, including encouraging vigilante actions that are hate crimes plain and simple. As Amanda Terkel explained for the Huffington Post:

[T]hen there was news that a man in Bronx, N.Y., who was born in Bangladesh was beaten up for supposedly being " a f*cking Arab" by a group of men who wanted retribution for the marathon bombing.

A Palestinian woman near Boston also reported being the victim of a hateful assault on Wednesday, when a man hit her and yelled, "F*ck you Muslims! You are terrorists! I hate you! You are involved in the Boston explosions."
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Postby FourthBase » Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:48 am

Blue wrote:How Absurd: 8 Crazy Reactions, Ridiculous Conclusions, and Dumb Media Behavior Coming out of the Boston Bombings

April 19, 2013 |



The manhunt is over with the arrest Friday of a second suspect in the Boston marathon bombing. But manhunt will live in infamy in the history of American civil liberties.

The city where the American Revolution began its fight against governmental overreach surrendered to the most outsized and disproportionate display of paramilitary policing in America in decades. One must ask if the manhunt that shut down an entire city to catch one 19-year-old on the run—who was found hiding and cowering in a backyard—did more to terrorize Bostonians than the attack on the Boston marathon itself.

There are many places in the world where terrorism is a real problem. But the U.S. is not one of them. Since the Sepember 11 attacks, the country has been very lucky and avoided blowback from its foreign wars. Think about it. One guy is loose, in one neighborhood, and an entire city is shut down. A total curfew is imposed. The transportation system is shut down. Police wielding their fiercest weaponry sweep home after home.

Bostonians were shocked and allow it to unfold—because what individual can stand up to such totalitarian power? And media organization after media organization called for more of it—embracing the security state mentality and its huge overreaction. A lone nineteen year old is on the run—not a foreign army or team of undercover Al Queda operatives. Nonetheless, police and political leaders disrupt and control the lives of millions.

Let’s look at some of the crazy reactions, ridiculous conclusions and dumb media behaviors that came out of Boston in the past 48 hours.

1. Unbelievable overreaction. An entire city was shut down and stayed shut in a massive manhunt for a skinny teenager in a grey hoodie. Yes, he may have had bombs and guns. But by Thursday night, when the first bomber—his brother—was killed by police, this paramilitary operation knew its targets were closer to the shooters from Colorado’s Columbine High School massacre, not foreign terrorists.

More than a million people were ordered to stay home and lock their doors, allowing no one but uniformed officers in. A public transit system serving 1.3 million people was shut down. Amtrak service between New York and Boston stopped. The Red Sox and Bruins postponed their Friday night games. Businesses were shut. The list goes on and on.

2. Massive display of military might. Every SWAT team and paramilitary vehicle from southern New Hampshire to Cape Cod descended on Boston. It’s one thing to surround several blocks and sweep through back yards and homes—without search warrants. But this was far more extensive. And when the second bomber was found—it wasn’t even from the police manhunt! It was by a homeowner who saw the canvas flap on a boat stored in his backyard had been untied. The suspect was cowering inside, wounded.


3. Then Dumb Politicans Weigh In. But media stampedes like the manhunt egg on the most ridiculous statements, such as Texas Republican Rep. Louis Gohmert’s assertion that the lockdown showed that new federal gun controls were wrong and instead that homeowners needed to be more heavily armed. “How many rounds do you want to be limited to in your magazine as you sit in your chair and wait?” he said.

Not to be outdone, North Carolina Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, tweeted, “Don’t read Tsarnaev his rights, if you catch him alive.”

4. Meanwhile, the security state missed suspect No. 1. The FBI said Friday that they had interviewed Boston Marathon bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2011, after a foreign government alerted officials of possible extremist ties. Federal officials told CBS News that they vetted the Chechen refugee but found no incriminating information.


What a shock. Horseshit from someone who was clearly not here.
I didn't watch a single minute of cable news. Only local news.
And I think that's the difference. Why so many of you are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy off.
Also, I talked to people, people I know, who were also here.
Also, I kept up to date with the police scanner info.
How many of you did? How many just watched cable news?
How many of you only watched cable news and read shrill conspiracy sites?
Obviously, the author. "Far more extensive"...oh? HOW? Details. Explain. But: Can't.
Because he's just using the events here, in this real city, as a launching point.
A launching point for his particular confirmation bias. Fodder for a critique.
A critique disconnected from reality, real reality or even warped reality.
"Yes, he may have had bombs and guns." Only to preface the "But".
Because if he was really interested in the actuality, he would mention:
How many guns, and what kinds, how many bombs, and what kinds?
Things that make a difference. 10 revolvers? 100 AKs? 2 grenades? 200?
Unless your only goal is a preconceived lead-in for a Columbine comp.
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Postby Blue » Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:53 am

FourthBase wrote:What a shock. Horseshit from someone who was clearly not here.
I didn't watch a single minute of cable news. Only local news.
And I think that's the difference. Why so many of you are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy off.
Also, I talked to people, people I know, who were also here.
Also, I kept up to date with the police scanner info.
How many of you did? How many just watched cable news?
How many of you only watched cable news and read shrill conspiracy sites?
Obviously, the author. "Far more extensive"...oh? HOW? Details. Explain. But: Can't.
Because he's just using the events here, in this real city, as a launching point.
A launching point for his particular confirmation bias. Fodder for a critique.
A critique disconnected from reality, real reality or even warped reality.
"Yes, he may have had bombs and guns." Only to preface the "But".
Because if he was really interested in the actuality, he would mention:
How many guns, and what kinds, how many bombs, and what kinds?
Things that make a difference. 10 revolvers? 100 AKs? 2 grenades? 200?
Unless your only goal is a preconceived lead-in for a Columbine comp.


Why don't you get some rest, 4B. I'm saying that out of concern for your well-being, honestly.
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Postby FourthBase » Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:26 am

Blue wrote:
FourthBase wrote:What a shock. Horseshit from someone who was clearly not here.
I didn't watch a single minute of cable news. Only local news.
And I think that's the difference. Why so many of you are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy off.
Also, I talked to people, people I know, who were also here.
Also, I kept up to date with the police scanner info.
How many of you did? How many just watched cable news?
How many of you only watched cable news and read shrill conspiracy sites?
Obviously, the author. "Far more extensive"...oh? HOW? Details. Explain. But: Can't.
Because he's just using the events here, in this real city, as a launching point.
A launching point for his particular confirmation bias. Fodder for a critique.
A critique disconnected from reality, real reality or even warped reality.
"Yes, he may have had bombs and guns." Only to preface the "But".
Because if he was really interested in the actuality, he would mention:
How many guns, and what kinds, how many bombs, and what kinds?
Things that make a difference. 10 revolvers? 100 AKs? 2 grenades? 200?
Unless your only goal is a preconceived lead-in for a Columbine comp.


Why don't you get some rest, 4B. I'm saying that out of concern for your well-being, honestly.


And, you are out of line. Without realizing it, of course.
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Postby KeenInsight » Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:07 am

The U.S. Government is the world's #1 Terrorist Organization.

Also saw some interesting comments from that article:

"Hey, this whole thing went really well.. for the military takeover. It was a drill... and it began with the bombings and proceeded to lockdown the entire city. That was the drill...to shut down a large metropolitan area... for practice."

The police should now hunt down and arrest, with 30,000 cops and soldiers, anyone at the FBI and/or Security Contractors that abetted and/or supplied live explosives. And put them on trial for the whole public to see.
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:15 am

As a drunk uncle rant, OP was aight, but it wasn't accurate, informed, or very insightful. I don't think the author actually paid much attention beyond getting their talking points confirmed. This whole fishbowl was ugly and stupid, no question, but it was a lot more complex and interesting than this cat gives it credit for: that would complicate the clean conclusive rant.

Overall, I think the media's deconstruction of the media's deconstruction of this circus is a spectacle worth avoiding! I'm sure Glenn Greenwald will have an epic jerimiad for us all, too, and it'll be every bit as autofellatio-tastic.
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Postby Perelandra » Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:38 am

Wombaticus Rex wrote:Overall, I think the media's deconstruction of the media's deconstruction of this circus is a spectacle worth avoiding! I'm sure Glenn Greenwald will have an epic jeremiad for us all, too, and it'll be every bit as autofellatio-tastic.
I have no idea who Greenwald is, but I think your statement is as undeniable as this from the OP.
All this misinformation and police overreach has dismaying consequences, including encouraging vigilante actions that are hate crimes plain and simple.

There's probably also some frustrated vengeance in our culture in the wake of Sandy Hook.
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Postby Simulist » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:29 pm

Wombaticus Rex wrote:I'm sure Glenn Greenwald will have an epic jerimiad for us all, too, and it'll be every bit as autofellatio-tastic.

I tried to use the search function to understand what your issue is with Mr. Greenwald, but the results weren't all that helpful.
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:49 pm

I don't bear Greenwald any special grudge, just commenting on who he is and what he does.

I've drafted a few epic jerimiads in my day, too, I just don't do it for a living with monomaniac sense of purpose.
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Postby Simulist » Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:00 pm

Thanks. During these phases (which have become shorter of late and far less frequent) when I actually seem to think politics (and, by extension, political commentary) makes a meaningful difference, I've enjoyed his writing and some of his perspectives. Eventually though I come back to my more apolitical senses.
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Postby FourthBase » Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:27 pm

That is the kind of uselessness we don't need right now, the haphazard numerology.
Could there be numerological significance to some things? Yes.
But don't take it at face value, ever.

Until a third was set off in Watertown, lmao.
How about, until a third-through-fortieth was set off, or something?
Not to mention that it reinforces that there were only two at the marathon.
What if there were more that didn't go off? What about the JFK Library?

So, this dude's "illuminati" number-diarrhea goes viral as something precognitive.
But I detail a premonition, and then crickets, and then I'm told I need psychiatric help.
Right. Okay. Good to know.
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Postby justdrew » Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:49 pm

Ill tell you, there is WAY TOO MUCH shit on the internet that seems almost designed to drive people more-or-less crazy. I really worry. Shit's fucked up and shit, but damn.
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Postby stefano » Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:54 pm

In further 'crazy reactions news', here is From the Trenches World Report with Are You Just A Believer Or Do You THINK?, a detailed expose of how the Boston bombing was entirely acted out. That guy who lost his legs was actually an amputee all along (he is referred to as "the amputee actor" in the article), and in the chaos and smoke a government plant was pouring fake blood on the pavement to make the thing seem real.

These are actors. This is staged. It was flash powder. There was no crock pot nail bomb. There are no bombers, only patsy. If your looking for a gunman look at the Army in the streets of Boston. Share this knowledge with everyone.

Interesting for various reasons:
1. The comments, almost all supportive. There are one or two people pointing out in fairly reasonable language that the entire premise is fucking batshit; they are summarily excoriated as shills, plants or dupes.
2. The way in which the writer and his commenters confidently state that they are right because "if it had been real, it would have looked like this." The conditional mode is used throughout, and the fact that the aftermath of the bombing does not look like their idea of the aftermath of such a bombing means that it can only have been staged. I don't, incidentally, for a moment believe that the writer has actually had experience with this kind of situation as he or she claims.
3. The audience and narrative. This is the militia/patriot crowd: see the advertisements for gold and books that will save you when the shit hits the fan. They have gone full-on knee-jerk Alex Jones. Quite interesting.

Anyway, these bright sparks set the bar quite high for anyone wanting to be the most sceptical freethinker on the block. Next level, I think, would be to claim that there has never been a city called Boston, or a month of April in the calendar.
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Postby FourthBase » Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:11 pm

stefano wrote:In further 'crazy reactions news', here is From the Trenches World Report with Are You Just A Believer Or Do You THINK?, a detailed expose of how the Boston bombing was entirely acted out. That guy who lost his legs was actually an amputee all along (he is referred to as "the amputee actor" in the article), and in the chaos and smoke a government plant was pouring fake blood on the pavement to make the thing seem real.

These are actors. This is staged. It was flash powder. There was no crock pot nail bomb. There are no bombers, only patsy. If your looking for a gunman look at the Army in the streets of Boston. Share this knowledge with everyone.

Interesting for various reasons:
1. The comments, almost all supportive. There are one or two people pointing out in fairly reasonable language that the entire premise is fucking batshit; they are summarily excoriated as shills, plants or dupes.
2. The way in which the writer and his commenters confidently state that they are right because "if it had been real, it would have looked like this." The conditional mode is used throughout, and the fact that the aftermath of the bombing does not look like their idea of the aftermath of such a bombing means that it can only have been staged. I don't, incidentally, for a moment believe that the writer has actually had experience with this kind of situation as he or she claims.
3. The audience and narrative. This is the militia/patriot crowd: see the advertisements for gold and books that will save you when the shit hits the fan. They have gone full-on knee-jerk Alex Jones. Quite interesting.

Anyway, these bright sparks set the bar quite high for anyone wanting to be the most sceptical freethinker on the block. Next level, I think, would be to claim that there has never been a city called Boston, or a month of April in the calendar.


Wow. Thanks for posting that.

If someone made to those claims to me like that in person, I would have a hard time fighting the urge to punch them in the jaw, once, as hard as I possibly could. But then again, they might have a stockpile of weapons, so maybe not. If they're extreme right-wing militia types, then it is unsettling to say the least that such well-armed and aggressive people believe such nihilistic, extreme-desperation-fueling nonsense. (Another thing to consider, for the reflexive doomsayers: You fear fascism? How tragically ironic would it be if your brand of total cynicism helped fuel an atmospheric fire of amateur fascism?) The other reason to pull my punch, would be that maybe the punchee is an employee of some agency with very powerful friends. Because I cannot imagine a worse kind of mind-poison than that ultimate-hoax crap, a worse kind of taint on all those who are labeled conspiracy theorists. (Nor a better way to expand the Overton window in order to make rancid kneejerk doomsaying look less unreasonable, less like the slightly-less-toxic-than-a-pure-hoax mind-poison it is.)
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