What's With Homophobia In Conspiracy Culture?

[8bitagent]

As if the "Illuminati symbols are everywhere" and "x event was a hoax with actors" youtube bullshit wasn't enough to forever shut the nail on conspiracy culture, perhaps the strong anti gay sentiments are.
A friend of mine innocently shared a re-shared link on his facebook wall(the typical Monsantos corportation blah blah photo meme), and out of morbid curiosity I clicked on the main facebook group and there was a number
of anti gay rants(Disney is illuminati because they strongly support gay rights!)

I notice this mostly with the white right-leaning conspiracy crowd(the conservative/Christian/gun nut/patriot/etc) and the black hip hop conspiracy crowd, but I see it elsewhere too. Wtf is this "gay agenda"?
Oh wait, Obama and the government/corporate media support gay rights, so therefore gay rights is some "evil nwo agenda"? The government and companies pimp out Martin Luther King, who the conspiracy crowd loves
(I think everyone, including myself uses MLK for their own ideas) yet noone is calling MLK bad. Hell war criminal LBJ signed into law civil rights, so even the worst criminals know the writing is on the wall for rights.

Call me crazy, but for a group of paranoid people obsessed with "creeping fashion"(and informed by regurgitated retarded memes) how is hating gay people "fighting the powers that be"? IF ANYTHING
the elite have historically HATED gay people. Uh, Hitler comes to mind?

This shit really upsets me



Recently Russia has really been going hardcore against LGBT, banning any public display of affection between same sex, banning pro LGBT rights protest, etc. Where's the conspiracy crowd talking about this shit?
Oh yeah, RT channel, forgot.

[Wombaticus Rex]

John, Birch, Society.

Lyndon, Hermyle, LaRouche.

I think that about covers it.

[Spiro C. Thiery]

I think the current administration having discovered substantial political momentum within its ostensible base by cynically latching itself to the cause of gay rights does just a little to stoke that fire.

[coffin_dodger]

Maybe some of the senior spokesmen for the section of the conthists (that's my new word for conspiracy thorists, btw) that believe the 'NWO' wants to take the population back to 500m are looking for the ways that the 'NWO' will do this - and somewhat unfortunately and ridiculously, they've decided that the promotion of gay rights = trying to turn us all gay = reducing the population through gayness.

I think it's possibly that silly.

[vince]

I would've thought the SUPPRESSION of homosexuality was the bigger 'conspiracy theory'!

[Luther Blissett]

I would've thought the SUPPRESSION of homosexuality was the bigger 'conspiracy theory'!

The powers that be have planned to suppress homosexuality, yes, but that's not a sexy story for homophobes.

This side of "conspiracy culture" is just worthless. Being involved in anti-fascism exposes enough real secrets that it can be wholly divorced from the subculture and entertainment complex and potentially pass as scholarship or activism. If the label is needed, places like r/conspiracy are always improving (and I don't see a lot of homophobia there).

[8bitagent]

I thought conspiracy theorists believe in the AIDS conspiracy? And other than parts of Africa, what portion of the population did AIDS primarily seem to ravage?

Yet time and time again I hear in conspiracy circles "homosexuals" conflated with pedos, bohemian grove, franklin, and all this stuff. I think maybe they confuse
hypocritical white elites into secret gay sex as Roman-esque acts of power at secret retreats and the mass abuse of boys by the Catholics or stuff like Franklin with
millions of every day LGBT folk.

Maybe that's why you don't see a full stop embrace of say, Bradley Manning or Glenn Greenwald by some of these folks? Can't be normalizing nun uh dem queers now!

[8bitagent]

Russian Neo-Nazis Allegedly Lure, Torture Gay Teens With Online Dating Scam

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/2 ... 58636.html



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... a-law.html
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... sexuality/

As I've long been saying, fuck Russia.

[Wombaticus Rex]

I thought conspiracy theorists believe in the AIDS conspiracy?

In which reification is streched beyond the point of implosion.

If a bear claps with one hand in the woods, does the Pope hear it?

[Luther Blissett]

Russian Neo-Nazis Allegedly Lure, Torture Gay Teens With Online Dating Scam

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/2 ... 58636.html



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... a-law.html
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... sexuality/

As I've long been saying, fuck Russia.

I've been trying to post this for days without being able to, in any number of existing threads. I'm awfully hardened to a lot of things in the world, but this one wanted me to take immediate action to somehow shut it down immediately. I'm almost afraid to follow up on the news and have no connections on the ground in Russia.

[elfismiles]

I've known many liberals who suggested the "homosexuality as natural population control" meme.

Divorcing reproduction from human sexuality and redirecting "family values" away from biological parentage and towards management by State and/or Corporate Complex is an alleged goal of the elites. Alleged mainly by rightist conservative typese.

Using all of the above (aside from allegedly using AIDS etc to cull the herd) would seem possible mechanisms for the PTB to use towards the aim of having fewer plebs with those remaining as fully-indoctrinated drones for their bidding.

I believe Huxley's Brave New World is often cited as an example of such dark futurism.

https://www.google.com/search?q=homosex ... on+control

Before such grand plans (if they exist) take place the ensuing gender-wars / culture-wars can obviously be manipulated for the PTB's benefit as per usual SOP.

Maybe...

[8bitagent]

Russian Neo-Nazis Allegedly Lure, Torture Gay Teens With Online Dating Scam

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/2 ... 58636.html



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... a-law.html
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... sexuality/

As I've long been saying, fuck Russia.

I've been trying to post this for days without being able to, in any number of existing threads. I'm awfully hardened to a lot of things in the world, but this one wanted me to take immediate action to somehow shut it down immediately. I'm almost afraid to follow up on the news and have no connections on the ground in Russia.

The media has somewhat been reporting it, but the sweeping anti gay shit I hear is getting out of hand. People being jailed for kissing, gay activists beaten and jailed. New harsh anti gay laws. I thought this was stuff only
Sharia law and right wing DC controlled African countries do? I personally see no difference between a Muslim or Arab being beaten and jailed by Russian authorities as I do gay people. When the staged as fuck "Russian Apartment" explosions happened, Russia went all out rounding up, harrassing and making life miserable for Muslims and Arab looking people in Russia and that was before the full on slaughter in Chechnya.
(yeah, I know its also far left/conspiracy beliefs that neocons are behind supporting Chechen rebels, and that may be, but still)

[8bitagent]

I've known many liberals who suggested the "homosexuality as natural population control" meme.

The eugenic population reduction meme posited by Alex Jones and company is probably the most often parroted meme out there.



You know, I have a theory. Maybe the "PTB" want OVER population. Aint no population reduction happening, if anything its the opposite.
I know...its a crackpot idea, as strange as my belief Iraq was engineered to be a collosal vaccuum of chaos flop. But I just dont see evidence.

I can kind of see the point of the people who talk about "Monsantos" every chance they get. As boy do Americans seem more unhealthy than ever.
Perhaps keeping the population as pacified through shitty food and touch screen entertainment is more of the ploy, or unintended consequence than
some eugenics agenda.

The idea of gay propaganda as part of eugenics is as stupid as Mormons who believe blacks were cursed.

[stillrobertpaulsen]

I wanted to crosspost this link that seemslikeadream put on the Todashev thread that ties into what you're talking about tangentially. I think the homophobia in conspiracy culture ties in with the racism in conspiracy culture. It really kind of ties into a more all-encompassing term: xenophobia. This fear of the other, the unknown, outside their own narrow sphere of experience that fuels their bigotry also leads to embracing conspiracy without a need to examine plausibility with any amount of rigor. That's my quick take on it, anyway.

[8bitagent]

I wanted to crosspost this link that seemslikeadream put on the Todashev thread that ties into what you're talking about tangentially. I think the homophobia in conspiracy culture ties in with the racism in conspiracy culture. It really kind of ties into a more all-encompassing term: xenophobia. This fear of the other, the unknown, outside their own narrow sphere of experience that fuels their bigotry also leads to embracing conspiracy without a need to examine plausibility with any amount of rigor. That's my quick take on it, anyway.

Watched all 16 minutes of Maddow's report.

1. Mcveigh was indeed steeped in early 90's NWO conspiracy/militia/white nationalism. Yet beneath the surface you see these possible shadow elements of Muslims and neo Nazi linked fbi informants.
If you go to ANY article on Prisonplanet or Infowars, or youtube post by AJ himself; you will see endless "Jew this, Zionist that" garbage. There actually has been a little bit of history of
Nazi elements and radical Islam networking. Hitler and the African Corps/Serbian Muslims/Grand Mufti. Al Qaeda's secret bank being started by a German Nazi and Muslim Brotherhood member which
was discovered in 2002. And of course Hitler himself used the same "Satanic Masons, Zionists and evil Commies plotting to take over the world" meme as conspiracy culture, despite the Nazis being,
well pretty much Satanic elites hellbent on taking over the world. Ironic, yes

2. But Maddow...come on. Continually conflating 9/11 truth with violent neo Nazis is strange given the rash of post 9/11 hate crimes against Sikhs and Muslims. Meaning, Indian Sikhs were conflated with Arab Muslims in
retarded hatemonger minds, who saw 9/11 as a call to fight "the evil Muslims".

Now this is what is really odd. "al Qaeda conspiracies". Ok Maddow, HOW THE FUCK could a would be jihadist believe BOTH in 9/11 being a government black op AND supporting jihadism/al Qaeda which CLAIMS RESPONSIBILITY for 9/11? How can a white supremist believe the government did OKC yet then go on to commit an act of violence. Its like durrr hurrr, violence is LOVED by the elites and the state.

Still, I have yet to connect the Tsarnaev or even the crazy as fuck Oslo attacks to elite conspiracies...which I absolutely believe in, and I am a non white peace loving, violence hating person who is disgusted with extremist or bigoted mindsets.