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BBC: Small animals experience time in "slow motion"

Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:03 am

BBC, 15 September 2013 Last updated at 23:44 GMT

Slow-motion world for small animals

By Melissa Hogenboom, Science reporter, BBC News

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24078179

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Starlings were found to have very fast visual systems, a result of observing the world very slowly

Smaller animals tend to perceive time as if it is passing in slow motion, a new study has shown.

This means that they can observe movement on a finer timescale than bigger creatures, allowing them to escape from larger predators.

Insects and small birds, for example, can see more information in one second than a larger animal such as an elephant.

The work is published in the journal Animal Behaviour.

"The ability to perceive time on very small scales may be the difference between life and death for fast-moving organisms such as predators and their prey," said lead author Kevin Healy, at Trinity College Dublin (TCD), Ireland.

The reverse was found in bigger animals, which may miss things that smaller creatures can rapidly spot.

Speedy creatures

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# Animals with the fastest visual systems in the database included golden mantled ground squirrels, starlings and pigeons

# The starling lives in large groups and forms massive swirling flocks which might be related to its need to keep track of where its mates are and avoid collisions

# One species of tiger beetle runs faster than its eyes can keep up, according to the team. It essentially becomes blind so needs to stop periodically to re-evaluate its prey's position.


Speedy goalkeeper

In humans, too, there is variation among individuals. Athletes, for example, can often process visual information more quickly. An experienced goalkeeper would therefore be quicker than others in observing where a ball comes from.

The speed at which humans absorb visual information is also age-related, said Andrew Jackson, a co-author of the work at TCD.

"Younger people can react more quickly than older people, and this ability falls off further with increasing age."

The team looked at the variation of time perception across a variety of animals. They gathered datasets from other teams who had used a technique called critical flicker fusion frequency, which measures the speed at which the eye can process light.

Plotting these results on a graph revealed a pattern that showed a strong relationship between body size and how quick the eye could respond to changing visual information such as a flashing light.

"From a human perspective, our ability to process visual information limits our ability to drive cars or fly planes any faster than we currently do in Formula 1, where these guys are pushing the limits of what is humanly possible," Dr Jackson told BBC News.

"Therefore, to go any quicker would require either computer assistance, or enhancement of our visual system, either through drugs or ultimately implants."

Confused woodlice

The current study focused on vertebrates, but the team also found that several fly species have eyes that react to stimulus more than four times quicker than the human eye.

Sluggish creatures

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# The common European eel, the leatherback turtle, and the blacknose shark had the slowest visual systems

# Although the eel and blacknose shark are relatively small, they have slow metabolisms which explains their slow visual systems

# The leatherback is a huge turtle that feeds primarily on slow moving jellyfish and has a very slow metabolism itself, so doesn't need to invest in high visual processing equipment


But some deep-sea isopods (a type of marine woodlouse) have the slowest recorded reaction of all, and can only see a light turning off and on four times per second "before they get confused and see it as being constantly on", Dr Jackson explained.

"We are beginning to understand that there is a whole world of detail out there that only some animals can perceive and it's fascinating to think of how they might perceive the world differently to us," he added.

Graeme Ruxton, of the University of St Andrews, Scotland, another co-author, said: "Having eyes that send updates to the brain at much higher frequencies than our eyes do is of no value if the brain cannot process that information equally quickly.

"Hence, this work highlights the impressive capabilities of even the smallest animal brains. Flies might not be deep thinkers but they can make good decisions very quickly."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24078179


- On Edit: formatting fixed, photos added, link to the quoted study embedded. (Sorry, I was working on a slow-motion computer this morning.)
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Re: BBC: Small animals experience time in "slow motion"

Postby KUAN » Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:31 am

Whoa,.. not so fast, I need to take this in
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Re: BBC: Small animals experience time in "slow motion"

Postby Pele'sDaughter » Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:54 am

Good one! :yay

Of course, you realize this is the case with small animals if you've ever tried swatting a gnat. They usually win the game.
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Re: BBC: Small animals experience time in "slow motion"

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Re: BBC: Small animals experience time in "slow motion"

Postby coffin_dodger » Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:08 am

Hey Mac - if this subject interests you, I would recommend taking a look at Geoffrey West's work on Time and Complexity.

In this presentation - (yes, I am going to link to it again)



West theorises that ATP (Adenosine triphosphate), which transports chemical energy within cells for metabolism, is a 'fixed amount' - and that dependent on the size of creature and metabolic rate, the ATP triggers heart rate and metabolism until 'used up'.

Through his research (and many others) he has determined that ALL mammals conform to approx. 1.5 billion heartbeats during their lifetime. For a shrew, whose heart beats extremely fast, the lifespan is very short indeed. A whale, however, with a drastically slower heartbeat, can live to 150 years old.
He also tentatively posits that the difference in space-time reality/consciousness for the shrew compared to a whale may be vastly different.
Small creatures with relatively short life-spans live fast and die young, but their existance may be just as fulfilling (in a time-experienced way) as an aged creature. I can't recommend this presentation highly enough as it touches on so many topics of interest. Last time I link to it, I promise.
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Re: BBC: Small animals experience time in "slow motion"

Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:46 am

Thanks, coffin-dodger (thanks, all). I'll catch that Geoffrey West lecture later. Yes, this is fascinating stuff. Here's the link to the cited article in full:

Metabolic rate and body size are linked with perception of temporal information

Kevin Healy , Luke McNally, Graeme D. Ruxtond, Natalie Cooper, Andrew L. Jackson

a Department of Zoology, School of Natural Sciences, Trinity College Dublin, Ireland
b Trinity Centre for Biodiversity Research, Trinity College Dublin, Ireland
c Centre for Immunity, Infection and Evolution, School of Biology, University of Edinburgh, Edinburgh, U.K.
d School of Biology, University of St Andrews, St Andrews, U.K.

Highlights

• Animals vary in their ability to perceive changes in their environment visually.
• Temporal perception can be quantified using critical flicker fusion (CFF).
• High CFF indicates an ability to perceive rapid changes in the visual field.
• We show that high metabolism and small body size are associated with high CFF.
• We argue that these findings have both ecological and evolutionary implications.

[...]

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 7213003060


In the very strange and powerful novel The Child in Time (1987), back in the day when Ian McEwan was still good, he evoked brilliantly the feeling of time slowing down or "stretching" at moments of great emotional intensity and /or great danger. The former when the protagonist is present at the birth of his wife's child (this mirrored my own experience); the latter when he evades disaster in a motorway pile-up by driving better than he actually can to slip through a tiny gap at very high speed -- the manoeuver lasts maybe five seconds, the description covers maybe five pages.

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Re: BBC: Small animals experience time in "slow motion"

Postby slimmouse » Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:16 pm

Really interesting stuff Mac, thanks. And CD too !

My first thought was how it might explain the apparent "collective conciousness" activities of a flock of birds and perhaps shoals of fish.

But especially fascinating in the light of relative lifespans.
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Re: BBC: Small animals experience time in "slow motion"

Postby slimmouse » Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:12 pm

Heres a nice interview from red ice this week which touches upon all the themes and research in this thread, whilst looking at the broader issues of consciousness.

Primer followed by link;

Anthony Peake grew up near Liverpool, England. He studied sociology and history at the University of Warwick before attending the London School of Economics. Prior to becoming a full-time science writer, he was a management consultant in the human resources industry. He is the author of several books and probably best known for his fascinating theory, which he terms Cheating the Ferryman. It suggests a new approach to the nature of consciousness and its relationship with the external world. His previous titles include The Daemon, The Labyrinth of Time, Is There Life after Death? and Out of Body Experiences. In this program, we discuss his latest book, The Infinite Mindfield. Peake delves into what many scientists believe to be the thorniest problem, namely how does the material substance of the brain give rise to the ethereal self-awareness we all experience? Peake says that when you look at things like the science of quantum mechanics or the astonishing properties of DNA, you can't help but realize that everything is driven by consciousness. He says that our understanding of our own mind is very limited, yet we have materialistic scientists drawing conclusions based on this limited understanding.


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Re: BBC: Small animals experience time in "slow motion"

Postby Nordic » Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:22 pm

coffin_dodger » Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:08 am wrote:Hey Mac - if this subject interests you, I would recommend taking a look at Geoffrey West's work on Time and Complexity.

In this presentation - (yes, I am going to link to it again)



West theorises that ATP (Adenosine triphosphate), which transports chemical energy within cells for metabolism, is a 'fixed amount' - and that dependent on the size of creature and metabolic rate, the ATP triggers heart rate and metabolism until 'used up'.

Through his research (and many others) he has determined that ALL mammals conform to approx. 1.5 billion heartbeats during their lifetime. For a shrew, whose heart beats extremely fast, the lifespan is very short indeed. A whale, however, with a drastically slower heartbeat, can live to 150 years old.
He also tentatively posits that the difference in space-time reality/consciousness for the shrew compared to a whale may be vastly different.
Small creatures with relatively short life-spans live fast and die young, but their existance may be just as fulfilling (in a time-experienced way) as an aged creature. I can't recommend this presentation highly enough as it touches on so many topics of interest. Last time I link to it, I promise.



Wait. Does this mean that I, with my higher than average heart rate, will live a shorter life? Should I start doing Tibetan Buddist Monk exercises to slow my heartbeat?

I have experienced this phenomenon a few times.

One of them was back in the late 80s, when a buddybof mine returned from visiting some farmers he knew on the Big Island of Hawaii with the most beautiful pot I've ever smoked in my life. This shit would slow time down, but differently than anything else I've had before or since. Playing hackysack, I swear the sack would slow wayvfown as it approached my foot, until I hit it, then it would speed back up to normal. It's like I was Keanu Reeves in The Matrix, dodging bullets. It was freaky and beautiful, and it wasn't fake -- I was like a hacksack prodigy while the shit was working.

Then another time when I was in a helicopter that crashed into a telephone line. That's the only time in my life I was convinced I was going to die.
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