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Amazon developing 1/2 hour drone delivery

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:51 am
by Peachtree Pam

Re: Amazon developing 1/2 hour drone delivery

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:57 pm
by Freitag
So they've ruined the blue skies with chemtrails, ruined the scenery with giant windmills, and now when we look up we'll see hundreds of Amazon drones buzzing everywhere. Whatever.

(It is kinda cool though.)

Re: Amazon developing 1/2 hour drone delivery

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:19 pm
by Peachtree Pam
Freitag, in another article it said they would fly within 16 kilometre from distribution center.

Re: Amazon developing 1/2 hour drone delivery

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:26 pm
by DrEvil
1. BB-gun
2. ???
3. Free Stuff! :yay

Re: Amazon developing 1/2 hour drone delivery

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 1:28 pm
by Peachtree Pam
:lol:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/amazo ... -1.2447483

Drones have already been used to deliver packages and cakes in China and beer at a South African music festival, Domino's Pizza also released a video earlier this year suggesting that one of its U.K. franchises was experimenting with drones for pizza delivery.

Re: Amazon developing 1/2 hour drone delivery

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:24 pm
by NeonLX
DrEvil » Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:26 pm wrote:1. BB-gun
2. ???
3. Free Stuff! :yay


Hadn't thought of that. Thanks for the tip!

Re: Amazon developing 1/2 hour drone delivery

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 3:19 pm
by Peachtree Pam
:rofl:

http://qz.com/152596/amazon-drones-wont ... time-soon/

But Amazon’s drones face some similar challenges. The big two:

Delivery drones can explode, or run into things. Unmanned drones are guided by not-always reliable GPS and equipped with metal-bladed propellers and batteries that may be prone to combustion. They’re likely to be impossible to use in many urban areas or anywhere near flight paths for commercial planes. “You’re never going to see them until they hit something. When they suck one of those drones into the engine of an airplane, then it’ll get everybody’s attention,” a former Continental Airlines pilot told ABC news earlier this year.

Commercial drone use won’t be approved for years. Amazon chief executive Jeff Bezos has admitted the 2015 timeline is “optimistic” and it could be four or five years before regulations are in place, according to a recent interview with Charlie Rose. That may still be too hopeful. Despite pressure from companies and a law passed in 2012 to push commercialization of the technology, full blown certification of drones “isn’t slated to start until 2020,” judging by the aviation regulator’s early guidelines on drone testing, the Wall Street Journal reported in this Nov. 7 article. Test sites are expected to be announced this month, but decisions could be delayed because of privacy concerns.

So, what do Bezos and Amazon get out of the announcement, besides some skeptical publicity and a rash of “What could go wrong” jokes on Twitter? By making such a public splash, the company is practically guaranteed a place at the table in any future US discussions of commercial drone regulation. And when Amazon is viewed less as an online retailer and more as a company with “boundless ambition,” as one former employee put it, and one that wants to build the infrastructure of the internet economy over the long term, being a leader in drone delivery could be seen as a key part of Amazon’s future strategy.

For now, though, the US Postal Service, DHL, UPS and FedEx are certain to employ plenty of real-live humans for many years to come.

Re: Amazon developing 1/2 hour drone delivery

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 3:50 pm
by 82_28
This is a PR scam built for "cyber Monday". There is no way this will "fly". Number one to me is the existence of overhead wires. I can, however see potential if there are pick-up points atop like corporate buildings or something. This just Bezos being a craven businessman.

I've seen it written elsewhere, forget where, but wouldn't this create a logistics problem? The boxes will still have to be sent back. And personally I would buy a baseball bat to be sent to me and then I would bash it with what it delivered to me because I felt threatened with the robot's behavior. To further the scam and PR/buzz tip, say you were at a stadium for a sporting event and thought the hot dogs were too expensive so ordered through Amazon drone technology. Give the coordinates of your exact seat and a hot dog or hot dogs for your entire row in the "buy in bulk deal" gets delivered by a dangerous and dystopian drone. What would stop that? Do we now live in a world that places will have to have "no drone zone" technology akin to cell phone blocking.

Perhaps that isn't a bad thing.

However, this is an elaborate PR stunt and it has gone viral as that was the expectation of even announcing such nonsense. Note how Bezos doesn't take Rose into some believably technologically advanced lab or warehouse and then throw it over to his "experts". No, he takes him into some unused meeting area in one of his buildings and then cuts to some cheesy footage of this thing landing outside of a suburban door.

Full disclosure, I will never order another thing from Amazon again. I've always used it just for book reviews that I buy elsewhere as it was.

Scam.

Re: Amazon developing 1/2 hour drone delivery

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:08 pm
by cptmarginal
John Robb was talking about a similar idea back in January:

http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/glo ... thing.html

DRONENET The next BIG thing.

Here's the next BIG thing. Something that has the potential to be as big as the Internet.

It's one of those ideas that hits you like a ton of bricks once you figure it out.

Given the rise in the entrepreneurial backchatter I'm getting on it, I supect it's going to roll out very quickly.

More quickly than most people think once it gets going, since most of the infrastructure required to put it into motion is already in place.

What is it?

It's an Internet of drones.

A short distance drone delivery service built on an open protocol. Think short haul logistics.

It's a system that will explode in a way that is very similar to the way the Internet grew up -- where connections were bought by individuals and installed one modem and IP address at a time, and where the early providers are local geeks with shelves full of modems and an expensive T-1 lines.

It's an approach that uses "uncontrolled airspace" and incremental purchases of cheap, standards compliant pads/drones to roll itself out (very similar to the way the Internet was able to piggy back on the old telephone system).

As a result of this open approach and decentralization, it's something that could grow VERY fast.


Here's a simplified version of what I'm talking about:

-I put package onto a landing pad at my home.
-Drone arrives, takes package and flies away.
-Drone delivers package to landing pad at delivery location.

There's almost nothing technically in the way of this happening right now.

Here's how it would work in practice:

-My brother left his iphone at my house. I want to get it to him, but he lives 30 mi away (as the crow flies, 50 by driving).
-I put it into a delivery container and put it on a small landing pad outside my home.
-I order a drone on my phone and put the ID of the container into the order (I could just as easily use a drone I buy to do it P2P).
-A drone arrives 10 minutes later, picks up the container automatically.
-After a couple of hops, it arrives at my brother's landing pad, where it drops off the container and alerts him with an e-mail/text.
-Costs? Probably less than $0.25 per 10 mi. or so. So, about $0.75 in this instance. Time? An hour or so.


How cool is that? Now add millions of drones and millions of landing pads, interconnecting with each other according to simple rules and decentralized ownership.

There's lots more to this, and I'll try to share it when I get a chance.

Hope you enjoy this heads up.


But when it comes to commercial applications of the idea so far, such as Amazon or this:



...it does seem to be a publicity stunt.

Re: Amazon developing 1/2 hour drone delivery

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:12 pm
by DrEvil
Not really sure it's a scam. I don't see this taking off (Pun!) anytime soon, but drones are becoming more and more common-place (CNN drones coming to your town Soon(tm) ), so at some point we will probably start seeing something like dedicated drone "lanes", laid out to minimize collateral damage when things go horribly wrong (low population areas, security nets, child friendly rotors etc.).

The accuracy of GPS is still a problem, but can "easily" be remedied with base-stations (and Glonass, and eventually Galileo and China's version of GPS). A proper setup can get GPS accurate down to a fraction of an inch. I've tried it myself, walking around with a laptop and a GPS antenna, watching my GPS-track on screen in real time, overlaid on a map and dead accurate.
It was very awesome. :)

Edit: @cptmarginal: That's brilliant! A hi-tech, super-efficient sneaker-net.

Re: Amazon developing 1/2 hour drone delivery

PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:14 pm
by cptmarginal
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We feel like we’re constantly evolving our own category. When we started no-one was talking about the positive value of drones. Today, there’s plenty of players in the ‘drones for good’ business which makes us happy. We’re not just in the drone business, because that would have been like being in the hardware business and not the internet, the software and connected service creates long term value.

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