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Wombaticus Rex » Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:28 am wrote:Searcher08 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:03 pm wrote:
Your silence on Israeli racism condemns you with exquisite eloquence.
Glad to see the circular firing squad is still hard at work!
I think if we've learned anything in the past year, it is the stark fact that many -- if not most! -- members of the RI forum are directly responsible for some of the worst human rights abuses in recent history, including at least a dozen genocides.
If we can't work out precisely who is to blame here, and more importantly, convince them they're horrible people, I see no hope for the outside world beyond this Canadian internet discussion group.
I salute you all for your important work detecting the impure amongst us. May your crusade never end!
Is a new revolution quietly brewing in France?
The Vineyard of the Saker Nov 7 2013
Today I am beginning a series of articles about what I believe is the extremely deep crisis taking place in Europe and about the potential of this crisis to result in some cataclysmic events. I will begin by taking a look at what has been going on in France, probably the country in Europe I know best, and also one which I think has be biggest potential to generate an explosion with far reaching consequences.
One could look at France's economic and financial situation (catastrophic) or at the many social problems plaguing an already very frustrated population, but I want to focus on one specific aspect of the current French crisis: the complete alienation of the majority of the people from the ruling elites which I will illustrate by one very telling example: the growing hysteria of the French elites about a brilliant philosopher - Alain Soral - and one stand-up comedian - Dieudonne M'bala M'bala.
continued at: http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.co.uk/201 ... ng-in.html
nomo » Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:21 pm wrote:Hmm. So according to that author, Dieudo is "funny" and Soral is a "deep thinker." No examples provided, I suppose us non-French speakers should just take his word for it.
And the quenelle is just a gesture used to "stick it to the man" (doesn't help that he includes photographs of people making the gesture next to someone he describes as a "Zionist idiot"). In fact, we KNOW it's innocent because it's really just the name of a particular dish.
Soral's "left of labor - right of values" -- how is that different from "national socialism"? How come this "E&R movement" is trying to woo both French nationalists as well as alienated immigrant youth, but is openly dismissive of "Zionists"?
Sorry, sounds like a rather contrived attempt at whitewashing the obvious anti-Semitism that accompanies this phenomenon.
Anti-Semitism washing. A catchy phrase.
In the early hours of Wednesday morning, the entrance of a mosque in the village of Deir Istiya, in the occupied West Bank, was set on fire. The walls were spray-painted with hate messages in Hebrew, including "Arabs out" and "revenge for blood spilled in Qusra".
The latter message is a reference to an incident last week, where Palestinians and Israeli forces clashed near Qusra, a village near Nablus that has lost half its land to settlements. Following the incident, settlers have carried out dozens of attacks in the village, killing 18 sheep and setting cars alight. The attack on the mosque was the latest in this "price tag" campaign - a term used to describe acts of vandalism or violence by radical Israeli settlers who want to exact a "price" from Palestinians or Israel security forces.
Ghassan Douglas, a Palestinian Authority official who monitors the activities of settlements and settlers in the West Bank, pointed out that this incident is nothing new: "The settlers almost on a daily basis do this to isolated Palestinians and damage their properties." Violence against Palestinian residents of the West Bank by Israeli settlers is a long recognised problem. But new figures from the United Nations published this week confirm that it is getting worse.
The figures, compiled by the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, show that attacks on Palestinians by Israeli settlers have increased every year for the last eight years (when the UN started counting assaults). Since 2006, about 2,100 attacks have been launched by Israelis. Annual totals have leapt from 115 in 2006 to 399 in 2013. The figures also show the toll of this violence: more than 17,000 Palestinians have been injured, as have 342 settlers and 37 soldiers. Ten Palestinians and 29 settlers have been killed.
This week, IDF spokesman Peter Lerner condemned the attack on the mosque: "The incident is deplorable on every level. It's against basic moral standards and jeopardizes safety and security and the stability the IDF is working hard to maintain." Last week, the Israeli defence minister Moshe Yaalon said that these price tag attacks were "outright terrorism". While most Israeli leaders are pro-settlement, they often denounce violence between settlers and Palestinians.
But do these condemnations mean anything? Palestinians living in the West Bank say that they do not, and that soldiers do very little to stop attacks. While soldiers technically have orders to stop any violence between civilians in the West Bank, the Haaretz newspaper's military correspondent, Amos Harel, has said that soldiers actually see their primary goal as protecting the settlers. Indeed, the basic fact that attacks have risen so consistently over the last eight years shows that if any efforts have been made to stop the violence, they have not been successful.
Some Palestinians go so far as to say that the intimidation by settlers is part and parcel of Israel's policy of seizing the West Bank. Certainly, these vigilante attacks by settlers do not really go against the wider aims of the state. Settlements in the West Bank are illegal under international law but there are thought to be around 500,000 Israelis living there. The government has announced the building of more settlements; they are widely seen as a way of changing "the facts on the ground" so that a Palestinian state becomes increasingly unviable. Politicians may condemn the aggression of individual settlers, but it is simply a mirror of the larger-scale aggression that is implicit in land grabbing.
Di Canio 'fascist but not racist'
Last Updated: Friday, 23 December 2005, 19:58 GMT
Lazio striker Paolo Di Canio has defended the raised-arm salute that earned him a one-game ban by saying he is "a fascist but not a racist".
Di Canio will contest a one-match ban for the salute, made against Juventus on Saturday, and he told Ansa news agency: "I am a fascist, not a racist.
"I made the Roman salute because it's a salute from a comrade to his comrades and was meant for my people.
"With this stiff arm I do no want to incite violence or racial hatred."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4544008.stm
Deciphering the Quenelle
By SYLVAIN CYPEL
JAN. 23, 2014
PARIS — Seventeen years ago, the leader of the far-right National Front, Jean-Marie Le Pen, deemed the Holocaust a “mere detail in the history of the Second World War.” Today, a popular comic known as Dieudonné M’Bala M’Bala (his stage name is simply Dieudonné) claims “not to know, between the Jews and Germans,” who’s telling the truth — “but I have my own little ideas on the subject.” We know what those ideas are: Dieudonné invited onstage at one of his shows Robert Faurisson, a “theorist” of Holocaust denial, who argues that the extermination of the European Jews is a Jewish invention.
Dieudonné, who revels in stoking controversy while hiding behind ambiguity, recently came up with a rallying gesture for his supporters. He calls it the “quenelle” (literally, a dumpling, a French version of gefilte fish). The move consists of the right arm pointed straight down, which the left hand keeps from lifting — very like the repressed Nazi salute of Peter Sellers in “Dr. Strangelove.” Mr. M’Bala M’Bala claims this is not anti-Semitic but “antisystem,” a defiance of authority, but his true disciples have caught on, pulling quenelles in front of synagogues.
On grounds that “inciting racial hatred” is illegal in France, the interior minister, Manuel Valls, decided to ban the comic’s shows, creating a furor. Canceling Mr. M’Bala M’Bala’s tour not only gave him free publicity, but it has also risked making him a victim of censorship.
At first glance, the Dieudonné affair seems a new form of anti-Jewish expression. Of course, it is. But it would be wrong to say that’s all that it is.
French society has suffered from an economic and social crisis for three decades. Whichever party has been in power, the unemployment rate has hardly dipped below 8 percent since the 1980s; more than one in four young people are out of work.
I recently returned to France, after six years working in the United States, to discover some unpleasant surprises. In “la France profonde,” a diffuse populism is stirring. Reminiscent of America’s Tea Party, this movement combines a nostalgic mind-set that everything “was better before” with a radical aversion to taxes and a hostility toward the detested European bureaucracy.
According to a recent study, only 8 percent of French people espouse racial inequality, yet there is a palpable conviction that everything bad comes from outside: Brussels, globalization, immigration. Whatever the law says, the “freedom” to express racist, xenophobic and anti-immigrant views has reached new levels. Mr. Le Pen used to claim to “say out loud what the people think in private.” Lately, many have begun thinking out loud.
The Dieudonné affair is symptomatic of an insidious slide toward intolerance, but anti-Semitism is the least of it; racism and xenophobia manifest themselves more often as anti-Arab, anti-Muslim or anti-black. Last year, in Carpentras, a town notorious in 1990 for the desecration of Jewish graves there, swastikas were spray-painted on the headstones of French Muslim soldiers. Late in 2013, the minister of justice, Christiane Taubira, a black woman originally from French Guiana, was called a “monkey” by a National Front candidate in municipal elections; the same slur was repeated by a representative of the conservative Union for a Popular Movement, the mainstream opposition party.
Urban neighborhoods where poor African, Asian or Caribbean populations live have become increasingly ghettoized. In French political parlance, this is called a “failure to integrate,” or a “rise in communitarianism.” France has become a hotbed of tensions that has seen a steep rise in “ethnicist” views of society. It is not just Mr. M’Bala M’Bala who has flourished in this atmosphere; other comedians trot out the most hackneyed racial clichés.
The phenomenon cuts across social class. Take Alain Finkielkraut, a professor of philosophy at the elite École Polytechnique: He recently published “L’identité malheureuse,” a book bemoaning the dilution of an eternal France about to be defiled by swarthy barbarians threatening to plunge “European civilization” into a multicultural bouillabaisse. Among the objects of his disgust: “Halal butcher shops and fast food.”
Mr. Finkielkraut’s sentiments echo those of Renaud Camus, a writer (not related to Albert Camus) who has denounced the “great replacement” of populations, which imposes on “the true rooted French” those who are not. Mr. Camus makes no secret of his admiration for Marine Le Pen, daughter of Jean-Marie and current leader of the National Front. Such ideas have even found resonance in the media, thanks to commentators like the political journalist Éric Zemmour, who laments the fate of the “white proletariat,” helpless before the “ostentatious virility of their black and Arab competitors seducing numerous young white women.”
The worst came last fall with a campaign against France’s Roma people. The previous president, Nicolas Sarkozy, had already singled out this vulnerable population of 20,000 as a dangerous nuisance — despite the fact that the Roma constitute just 0.03 percent of the population. The interior minister, Mr. Valls, has now called for their expulsion. Well might we wonder about the integrity of a politician who defends Jews from Dieudonné’s quenelle while deporting Gypsies.
The son of a white mother and a black father, Mr. M’Bala M’Bala will continue to surf a wave created by the “competition of victims” in a country that is historically “guilty” twice over: toward the Jews, for its participation in the collaborationist Vichy regime, and toward its black and Arab citizens, for its colonial past. By calling Jews “slave traders,” Mr. M’Bala M’Bala plays a game of provoking the authorities’ squeamishness about anti-Semitism, even as other expressions of racism get a pass. When Dieudonné described Ms. Taubira as a “cheetah,” there was scarcely a stir.
Unless things change, this deplorable clown has a bright future.
Sylvain Cypel, a former correspondent for Le Monde, is the author of “Walled: Israeli Society at an Impasse.” This essay was translated by Edward Gauvin from the French.
A version of this op-ed appears in print on January 24, 2014, on page A27 of the New York edition with the headline: A French Clown’s Hateful Gesture.
sije » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:02 pm wrote:I must step in, here, to say that the only accurate assessment of the whole nonsense over Dieudonné and the quenelle in this thread is to be found in the article by Diana Johnstone, <a href="http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=37586&start=30#p531062">posted on page 3 by bluenoseclaret</a>. Read it!
Like Diane Johnstone, I've lived in France for over half my life, observing the steady growth of reverse, exclusive xenophobia against Arabs, Roma and, generally, free thinkers, in response to non-events which are increasingly, and conveniently, associated with anti-semitism for strategic political purposes. Dieudonné is only the most recent, high profile target of France's relentless Jewish / Zionist police forces of 'political correctness'.
Some US Americans are increasingly concerned about the power Zionist lobbies wield in the US political arena, congress and judiciary, among other, but they'd have difficulty grasping the extent of Zionist control in the EU, and France, in particular, with the LICRA, LDJ, CRIF, which have absolute control over political discourse in French media and politics.
Many in France are increasingly weary of the realm of manipulation on the part of a tiny faction / portion of the French population, which exploits the historical theme of exclusive ethnic discrimination.
Dieudonné has done nothing more than state the obvious, and his 'quenelle', as he has explained repeatedly, has nothing to do with 'anti-semitism', or anti-Judaism, rather everything to do with overtly biased political exploitation.
The quenelle gesture does no more than to express distress over the broader issue of the elimination of popular contribution to the political process. <i>Ras le bol</i>
'Solace' needs to understand that objection to increasingly pervasive Zionist power in France has nothing to do with objection to people who practice Judaism.
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