Libya, Syria And Now Ukraine - Color Revolution By Force

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Re: Libya, Syria And Now Ukraine - Color Revolution By Force

Postby FourthBase » Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:28 am

AlicetheKurious » 24 Feb 2014 01:37 wrote:
FourthBase » Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:38 pm wrote:If this were the beginning of a Eurasian Spring, would that necessarily be a terrible thing? If the CIA were to help Chinese dissidents launch a peaceful takeover of their own particular rigged economy and oppressive government (we all live in one), why should that necessarily be a terrible thing? Just because it would be a move rightward (from as left a starting point as it gets!) according to some silly left-right false bifurcation? There is free, and there is not-free. Fuck all non-freedom.


I can't decide if this is an example of dangerous naivete and ignorance and a cold, cold heart, or something else. To help me decide (if you wish): 1) can you point to a single example of US political/military intervention during the past 50 years, which made life better for the targets of this intervention rather than horribly, catastrophically worse? And, 2) do you give a shit?


Here's another: South Korea. Or do you picture them as envying North Koreans?

I mean, look, I'm obviously no fool. I used to have "The CIA's 50 Greatest Hits" more or less memorized, like schoolchildren memorize the 50 states. I know the evils American civilization is responsible for. If anything, since my true education (and probably yours, too) has been a guided autodidactic tour through the world of radical literature, what I don't know enough about, and what I'm constantly surprised by, is how much evil the Other Guys have been responsible for, too. I, for one, am quite fucking grateful to be:

· Not living in a world where the USSR had prevailed over the USA. (Sutton's thesis notwithstanding.) (Not to say that Communism is dead; hardly. Look over there, it's China. Oh, and the "Eurasian Union", whatever the hell that is.) If I were someone who had been traumatized by an American proxy or a School of the Americas death squad, then I would despise America. But to then be pro-America's-enemy would be a failure to understand that, eventually, some similar violation would have been visited upon me by America's enemy. And at least in America, there is the pretense of fairness. Pretenses are important, even if they are often betrayed. In places where they have no such pretenses, people are simply fucking executed. China, for example. Here, at least, you have to try really, really hard to earn yourself the evil eye from a shadowy assassination unit. China, they will just fucking run you over with a tank. (Off camera.) This website does not exist in China, does it?

· Not living in a world where Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan had prevailed. Not a single person but for a monstrously stupid few in the world would have this otherwise.

· Living in a world where the American Revolution (or as my right-wing cousin puts it, Counter-Revolution) occurred. If I were black, then I might feel otherwise, given how that would mean decades more freedom for my entire family tree. Then again, a lot of black people have been actualizing the shit out of their lives for a long time, since the Civil War ended, occasionally before, and they accomplished this despite the immersive racism, and almost none of them chose to flee to Mexico or Canada or to take a cruise back across the Atlantic. So maybe that fact by itself is black assent for the Revolution. (Isn't it funny, this nation was founded in a revolution, by revolutionaries, who fought an empire with guerrilla tactics, who littered the marketplaces with radical philosophy, the most successful revolution in world history, and yet all you leftist revolutionaries can do is deconstruct it, subvert it, etc.) If I were an Indian, I wouldn't give a shit either way, because either way a white nation was going to trample me...oh,well, maybe I'd be pro-Crown, right, given the lovely hospitality of Canadiannn...errr, nevermind.

· Living in a world where Muslims do not make the rules. They make the worst rules, in general. Or will someone bother making a futile attempt to dispute that, out of an obligatory political-correctness? Ladies, you who bemoan American misogyny, you would prefer the 50-to-500-years-late-to-the-liberation-party Muslim world? No. At the risk of daring to answer for you like a sexist: No, you would not prefer to live in most of the Muslim world. But, hey, correct me if I'm wrong. How about those of you who are gay or whatever? Feel like moving to a majority-Muslim country? No. You don't. This is not just reverse-whataboutism. They are a fundamentally-backwards culture, ethically, epistemologically, ruled by the worst set of religious memes out of all the extant sets of bad major religious memes. Islam, as it is believed by most Muslims, is an inevitable threat to all civilization, no matter how conservative or progressive. The vision of global Islam dreamed and pursued by the majority of politically-active Muslims in the world will obliterate us all, eventually All. All of our precious rights, all our dearest values. Christian, feminist, capitalist, socialist. Overthrown, given enough time, at their rate of expansion, and given the extraordinary tenetic resiliency of Mohammed's* creed. You ignore the right-wingers on that Malthusian angle at your own liberal peril. And yet, because of the grandiose sociopaths who've ensured that the world stay addicted to their Petroleum, Inc. (Thanks, oil barons! For doubly fucking the world over!) we've all wound up more or less hostage to that same Muslim world none of you would want to live in, logistically beholden to their worst autocrats and theocrats and oligarghs, either the puppet kind or the organic kind, and perhaps it would always be this case no matter what in certain countries if a people's takeover would inevitably lead to a theocratic tyranny like it did in Iran, like it almost did in Egypt. "Yay, go People! Okay, folks, you won, now you get to decide what to do with your lives! The world of possibilities opens before you, beyond the horizon...so, what shall it be?" And the Iranian people said, "Give all the power to this one guy so he can make all our decisions for us because he knows best what the ultimate one guy we must obey would want us to do." That is depressing, frightening given the power to make war. And yet, no one is supposed to be unhappy about this except deluded or agenda-driven American chauvinists, racists, Islamophobes, right-wingers, etc.?

* Mohammed, whom I like to depict as: :)
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Re: Libya, Syria And Now Ukraine - Color Revolution By Force

Postby justdrew » Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:24 am

http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_02_23/Anonymous-Ukraine-releases-Klitschko-e-mails-showing-treason-3581/

Anonymous Ukraine is battling the forces in Ukraine that are funded and directed from the West and attempting to overthrow the democratically elected government of the sovereign country of Ukraine.

Anonymous Ukraine is operating in what can only now be described as a war zone and the security measures they are forced to take are extreme. A member of Anonymous Ukraine who wishes to remain anonymous spoke to the Voice of Russia about the operations and the recent release of e-mails between Vitaly Klischko and the Lithuanian Presidential advisor. The e-mails show that Klitschko was intentionally planning to destabilize the country, is being instructed and funded from abroad and has his accounts in Germany.

Greetings citizens of the world. We are Anonymous Ukraine.

The Anonymous Hacktivist Collective worldwide is partially divided on the issue of Ukraine. This has to do with the western mass media propaganda and the conflicting reports that are coming out of the country. This is sad as some Anons are unknowingly supporting the dark forces at work in Ukraine. Members of Anonymous Ukraine are aware of the internal meddling by the United States, NATO and the European Union into the internal sovereign affairs of Ukraine. Anonymous Ukraine supports peace and the right of the people to self determination. The Bandera Nazis and fascist thugs that are beating and killing police and members of the security services of Ukraine do not represent the will or the wishes of the people of Ukraine. The people of Ukraine do not want European Union integration. The people of Ukraine do not want NATO on their territory. The people of Ukraine voted for President Yanukovich to lead them in fair and just democratic elections. The people of Ukraine plea to the President and to Russia for help in stopping the siege of Ukraine by Nazi thugs and murderous gangs. The people of Ukraine do not want to see their beloved capital Kiev occupied by Nazi killers and burned to the ground. The people of Ukraine want their independence to be recognized and be allowed to determine their own fate without pressure from US, NATO, European Union. The people of Ukraine want peace and want the Bandera Nazis to be stopped once and for all. Anonymous Ukraine does not like nor support what is happening in Ukraine now. The so-called opposition is trying to tear Ukraine apart. Anonymous Ukraine has released the e-mails of one of the leaders of the so called opposition and will continue to expose the moves by the west to subvert the sovereign country of Ukraine. The e mails released by Anonymous prove that Vitaly Klichko is a puppet of the West and is being financed through intermediaries in Lithuania. The e mails also prove that Klitchko has bank accounts in Germany and is receiving funding for his coup d’état from the West. We will continue fighting these puppets. The western puppet opposition leaders will hurl Ukraine into chaos. We appeal to the president of our country. The people of Ukraine urge you. President Yanukovich, to restore order and bring calm and stability and disperse the gangs of robbers and Nazis. Anonymous Ukraine will strike at all of the web resources of western hirelings and fascists. Anonymous Ukraine calls for Ukraine to be unified and independent. The government of Ukraine promoted the country's integration into Euro-Atlantic institutions despite the reluctance of Ukrainian people. Ukrainian citizens realize that signing of the Association Agreement with the European Union will lead to the collapse of Ukrainian economy in the near future. We express our support to the people of our country. We want Ukrainian government and EU leadership to understand that people of Ukraine do not want their country to become a raw material donor to Europe. Ukraine must be free. We do not want to be dependent on other countries or organizations. Ukrainian people do not need a speculative Association Agreement with the European Union. Ukraine does not need to be a part of Russia-led Eurasian customs union. We do not need to be servants of NATO. Ukraine does not need European Union. Ukraine does not need NATO. Ukraine should not be anybody's servant. We stand for independent Ukraine. We declare the continuation of Operation Independence. We will strike at the web resources of countries and organizations that pose a threat to freedom and independence of Ukraine!

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Re: Libya, Syria And Now Ukraine - Color Revolution By Force

Postby FourthBase » Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:37 am

The people of Ukraine voted for President Yanukovich to lead them in fair and just democratic elections. The people of Ukraine plea to the President and to Russia for help in stopping the siege of Ukraine by Nazi thugs and murderous gangs.


Does not begin to pass even the first stage of a Sniff Test.
Rancid horseshit. What's the agenda behind that article?

Meaning, they have zero love for him, either.
He just tried to execute a dictatorial takeover, for fuck's sake!

Being against the far-right is a separate issue from being for Yanukovich/Putin.
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Re: Libya, Syria And Now Ukraine - Color Revolution By Force

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:43 am

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Re: Libya, Syria And Now Ukraine - Color Revolution By Force

Postby slimmouse » Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:00 pm

Had to post this, as it would appear that the old boss is on the run already?

Just days after signing a peace deal with protesters, on Monday, Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych was on the run as the new government issued an arrest warrant for his role in the death of 88 people in last week's demonstrations. "As of this morning, a criminal case has been opened based on the mass murder of civilians," Ukraine's acting interior minister, Arsen Avakov, wrote on Facebook. "Yanukovych and some other officials have been put on the wanted persons list." Yanukovych has not been seen since he denounced his removal from power as a coup on Saturday, and it seems interim leaders are trying to enlist the public's help in preventing him from leaving the country.


The story goes on to say how the New Govnt will be assisted in its funding by the IMF and co, since its already bankrupt apparently.

Lucky for them.

Link. ( courtesy of link I read from JLaw in another thread)

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Re: Libya, Syria And Now Ukraine - Color Revolution By Force

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:03 pm

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Experts estimate the cost of Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych’s new private residence at 75 – 100m dollars. For most of his career he was a public servant or parliament deputy, where his salary never exceeded 2000 US dollars per month.

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The new residence of president Viktor Yanukovych is decorated with imported natural marble, Italian crystal and precious woods.

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Yanukovych, the luxury residence and the money trail that leads to London
SERGII LESHCHENKO 8 June 2012 Subjects:The Heavyweight Guide to Ukraine Euro 2012 Democracy and government Ukraine Printer-friendly versionSend to friendPDF version Facebook Twitter
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European leaders’ decision to boycott Ukraine’s Euro 2012 has highlighted the role of Yanukovych as the new black sheep of Europe. Yet Yanukovych made his own own ‘European choice’ long ago – it is in there that he squirrels away his family’s fortune, writes Sergii Leshchenko

When Viktor Yanukovych came to power in 2010, he announced that preparations for football’s Euro 2012 would be one of his priorities. And the main source of funding for the championship was to be his country’s exchequer. Money that could have been used to build hospitals would go instead to stadiums and motorways.

The first thing built by the state owned road construction company was a mini motorway on the outskirts of Kyiv. In a country whose roads generally resemble tank ranges, the appearance of a highway with a beautifully smooth surface was bound to attract attention. Official sources hastened to explain that it was built as part of the preparations for Euro 2012.

The only thing is that the road is not part of any transport network linking Ukraine with Europe. Officials used money destined for Euro 2012 to build instead a road linking the capital with Mezhyhirya, President Yanukovych’s private residence, which has become the symbol of Ukrainian corruption in high places.

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Experts estimate the cost of Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych’s new private residence at 75 – 100m dollars. For most of his career he was a public servant or parliament deputy, where his salary never exceeded 2000 US dollars per month.

Mezhyhirya’s history echoes that of the country

The Mezhyhirya residence was built in the Soviet period on the site of a monastery that had stood there since the 14th century before being destroyed by the Bolsheviks. The Soviet regime, under which Ukraine lived for 70 years, tried to provide for all its leaders’ needs. Top communists were rewarded with a package that included a house in the country – a so-called ‘dacha’. Mezhyhirya, which was at the disposal of the leader of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, fell into this category.

After Ukrainian independence the building was used to accommodate foreign delegations, but when in 2002 Viktor Yanukovych was appointed Prime Minister and moved to Kyiv from industrial Donetsk he decided he would like to live at Mezhyhiriya. Initially he rented it, but the Orange Revolution brought a fall in his living standards – a terrible thing for Post-Soviet Man. The new government, headed by president Yushchenko and PM Tymoshenko, evicted him from his home.

But a year later, after the fall of the Orange dream team, Yanukovych returned to the post of Prime Minister and secured the right to Move back into Mezhyhiriya, which was still government property. And another year later, in 2007, when he left his post, he took the house with him.

In Yanukovych’s final weeks as Prime Minister, his government illegally privatised Mezhyhiriya. No money was paid to the state for its sale; instead, a couple of semi- derelict buildings in Kyiv were handed over in return (they have continued to fall down ever since).

Mezhyhiriya, meanwhile, was acquired, without any competitive tendering process, by a Donetsk company called ‘MedInvestTraid’, which immediately resold it and a few years later filed for bankruptcy. Was someone covering their tracks?

In 2009, after an unsuccessful bid to create a political alliance with Viktor Yanukovych, Yulia Tymoshenko tried to return Mezhyhiriya to state ownership, but nothing came of it. MPs from Yanukovych’s party removed all the documents relating to the sale from the government departments involved.

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The new residence of president Viktor Yanukovych is decorated with imported natural marble, Italian crystal and precious woods.

And a few months later Yanukovych became president, and could stop worrying about it. Especially since he had managed to register the deeds of the property in the name of several European companies, one of them British.

What is Mezhyhiriya?

Yanukovych is now the proud occupier of 137 hectares (340 acres) of land on the banks of the river Dnieper. This is an area a little smaller than the principality of Monaco, which occupies 195 hectares. On the other hand, the population of the principality is 30,000, whereas the sultanate of Mezhyhiriya has but one single inhabitant.

The period after Viktor Yanukovych’s inauguration was ‘the golden age’ of Mezhyhiriya. All the buildings constructed in the Soviet period, where the Communist leaders had lived, were demolished. In their place rose a five storey palace of log and stone.

Once, Viktor Yanukovych even had an opportunity to boast about his property. On a visit to Berlin in 2010, he was speaking to an audience of local intellectuals and, wishing to pay a compliment to his host nation, he told them had imported German craftsmen to construct his estate and was very pleased with their work.

The mansion itself, crowned with a roof of pure copper, was built by the Finnish company Honka, the world leader in the construction of log buildings of all kinds. Apparently Yanukovych’s home is the largest wooden structure ever built by Honka, and the company even wanted to nominate it for inclusion in the Guinness Book of Records. But its owner declined this honour.

The royal scale of the residence played, however, a bad joke on the president last winter, when its heating system could not cope with the coldest weather for six years. The president was left freezing in his drawing room, where the temperature refused to rise above 16 degrees Centigrade.

Legends are being created about the presidential compound. Among independent Ukrainian journalists there is an unspoken competition as to who will first publish photos of this monument to national corruption.

The sheer scale of Mezhyhiriya is mindboggling. The Ukrainian Customs and Excise Department’s database lists details of fixtures and fittings imported for its embellishment. Each of the mansion’s Lebanese cedar doors cost $64,000. Three sets of wooden panelling for staircases came in at $200,000, wall panelling for the winter garden at $328,000, and cladding for a neoclassical column and parapet for a flight of steps at $430,000. In the course of one and a half years the overall cost of fittings imported for Mezhyhiriya was $9,416,000.

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The price of the chandeliers in Viktor Yanukovych's new residence has shocked Ukrainians. In a country where 35% of the population live under poverty line, spending 100 000 dollars on each individual chandelier seems excessive, to say the least.

The grounds around the house have been laid out as a formal park, with decorative planting and water features. The ‘Ukrainska Pravda’ newspaper, which has been following the Mezhyhiriya story for three years, recently published shocking photos of one of the estate’s features - a landing stage and pavilion on the bank of the Dnieper. Inside there is a stage and karaoke equipment – Viktor Yanukovych likes to spend summer evenings relaxing here. The photos show a building decorated in gold paint, with a marble floor – a kind of mini Versailles. On specialist websites one can also find photos of a gilt and crystal chandelier that hangs in the pavilion. It cost $100,000.

For a more exotic presidential leisure experience, Mezhyhiriya has its own private zoo, where one can admire not only local forest fauna but also ostriches and even kangaroos, imported specially for the president’s pleasure. A few years ago, however, this led to a catastrophe when one kangaroo escaped while being fed, and another died of pneumonia – they’re not used to temperatures of -15 in Australia.

The compound also includes facilities for more active leisure. An eighteen-hole golf course, visible on satellite photos, is under construction. It has been designed and built by French specialists, at a cost of 2-3 million dollars.

The president is also very fond of horses, and is having a riding club with an indoor exercise space built. Foreign politicians who want to cultivate Yanukovych’s friendship – the presidents of Poland and Turkmenistan, for example - give him gifts of horses.
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Finnish company Honka were in charge of construction on Yanukovych’s house. During one of his visits to Germany, the Ukrainian President himself praised the German specialists working on the site for the high quality of their work.

Viktor Yanukovych can also enliven his work days at Mezhyhiriya with a game of tennis or ten pin bowling, or a session at his underground shooting range. The president is a keen hunter, and has acquired another estate near Mezhyhiriya to satisfy this passion.

Another peculiarity of the president is his fear of being poisoned. Because of this he has had greenhouses built in his compound, designed to mimic twenty climatic zones. The idea is that anything Yanukovych wants to eat can be brought to his table directly from his own farm.

Mezhyhiriya continues to expand. Last summer saw the completion of a yacht club, a garage complex for the president’s collection of 70 cars and a helicopter pad and hangar. This aircraft is, in fact, the subject of a separate tale of corruption. The president’s administration rented a helicopter for him from Blythe Associates Inc., a company registered in the British Virgin Islands which used to be a shareholder in the Austrian company that is Mezhyhiriya’s official owner. In other words, Viktor Yanukovych has evidently been unable to think of anything better than to organise himself a personal helicopter out of public funds.

The poor Ukrainian president

Viktor Yanukovych spent his entire working life as a government official, and his wife is a pensioner. Before he was elected president he received a Ukrainian MP’s salary, equivalent to up to $2,000 a month. He has no official income to explain this level of expenditure. To buy one door for his residence for $64,000, he would have had to put by three years’ worth of salary, without even allowing for living expenses.

Admittedly, Yanukovych’s latest tax return put his income somewhat higher. It turns out that last year, on top of his salary, he received $2,000,000 from a Donetsk publisher for an as yet unpublished, and indeed unwritten, book of memoirs. Given that his previous foray into literature was a fiasco – he was accused of plagiarism and the book removed from the shelves – it is not surprising that this large fee was immediately interpreted as a means of laundering the president’s shadier sources of income.

In Ukraine, which occupies 152-nd place (out of 182) in global corruption listings, such facts about Yanukovych do not even raise an eyebrow. Corruption is endemic in the whole power vertical, from traffic policeman to government minister. That is why there was no public outcry at ex-Premier Yulia Tymoshenko’s seven year prison sentence. Her reputation is as stained by corruption scandals as Yanukovych’s.

From the president’s lifestyle it is clear that he has hidden sources of income. Viktor Yanukovych realised that it would be impossible to explain away his enormous expenditure on Mezhyhiriya, so the deeds to the property were officially registered to third parties and quietly squirrelled away in European tax havens.

Officially, Mezhyhiriya belongs to the Donetsk firm ‘Tantalit’. Its director is a complete unknown by the name of Pavel Litovchenko, a former employee of Yanukovych’s elder son. And, as Yanukovych’s younger son once let slip by mistake, Mr Litvichenko is now the president’s family lawyer.

‘Tantalit’ was set up and is 99.97% owned by an Austrian company, Euro East Beteilungs GmbH. After that the trail leads to the UK. The Austrian firm is 100% owned by a British company, Blythe (Europe) Ltd, with a registered address in London, at Formations House, 29 Harvey Street. Here, for a small sum of money, you can set up a ‘front’ company. The Russian speaking staff explain that post-Soviet oligarchs and officials also like using the UK as a cover for their dodgy income.

After London, the Mezhyhiriya trail leads to the pocket principality of Lichtenstein. All the shares of Blythe (Europe) Ltd belong to the Lichtenstein based P&A Corporate Services Trust. Blythe (Europe) Ltd also crops up in relation to Yanukovych’s hunting grounds near his residence. This enormous tract of forest, 300 square kilometres in area and home to wild boar and elk, is still formally the property of the state, but Viktor Yanukovych built himself a palatial hunting lodge there.
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The entire property constitutes 140 hectares of valuable land which lies alongside the Dnieper river.

It too belongs to Blythe (Europe) Ltd. After that the whole hunting ground was surrounded by an anti-tank trench and patrolled by armed guards working for Yanukovych’s family. No one can go into the forest any more. Journalists from Ukrainian TV’s Channel 5 recently decided to have a picnic in the forest, as an experiment. They had not gone 100 metres before finding themselves continuing their afternoon under the watchful eye of armed special forces.

The story of Viktor Yanukovych and his residence highlights a paradox. Having completely rejected such European values as human rights and democracy, the Ukrainian president uses Europe as a place to hide his dirty money with impunity. European leaders who are critical of Yanukovych could put pressure on him through his European assets – deeds, not words. Oddly enough, that was once the slogan of the Orange revolution in Ukraine, which for a brief moment put Ukraine back on the road to democracy.

About the author
Sergii Leshchenko is an investigative and political journalist. He is deputy-editor-in-chief of Ukrainska pravda, Ukraine's leading independent online media. He was a 2012 Fellow of the John Smith Memorial Trust and a Reagan-Fascell Fellow from 2013-2014. All views are expressed in a personal capacity.
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Re: Libya, Syria And Now Ukraine - Color Revolution By Force

Postby slimmouse » Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:09 pm

I hope you dont think I was trying to stick up for the guy SLAD.

I only hope that the resolve and intelligence of the people of the Ukraine can overcome what appears to be coming next, since we shouldnt be in the least surprised to expect huge Corporate invovlvement in all of this.
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Re: Libya, Syria And Now Ukraine - Color Revolution By Force

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:13 pm

slimmouse » Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:09 pm wrote:I hope you dont think I was trying to stick up for the guy SLAD.

I only hope that the resolve and intelligence of the people of the Ukraine can overcome what appears to be coming next, since we shouldnt be in the least surprised to expect huge Corporate invovlvement in all of this.


oh no not at all....just been meaning to post a pic of his house since I saw it on the TV last night
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Re: Libya, Syria And Now Ukraine - Color Revolution By Force

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:23 pm

Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Libya, Syria And Now Ukraine - Color Revolution By Force

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:44 pm

Viktor Yanukovych is gone, but where are Ukraine's missing millions?
Ukrainians want those in power who pillaged the public coffers to be held to account, which will require cross-border co-operation

theguardian.com, Tuesday 25 February 2014 06.35 EST

Ukraine president Viktor Yanukovych
The corruption within Viktor Yanukovych's political system enriched the few and disadvantaged many within Ukraine. Photograph: Sergei Svetlitsky/Demotix/Corbis
The fast-moving events of the past few days in Ukraine have shown the depth of anger over the violence and corruption of the regime of Viktor Yanukovych and his cronies. There may now be early elections, and Yanukovych has fled, but this alone will not heal the wounds of the past few years.

The pictures of the former president's plush compound – his vintage car collection and fancy pheasants, the private restaurant and golf course – have struck a chord in the same way the palaces of Ben Ali and the wealth of Hosni Mubarak angered the people of Tunisia and Egypt.

Ukrainians want those in power and their accomplices who used their positions to pillage the public coffers held to account, and measures taken around the globe to make sure this cannot happen again.

This means enforcing anti-corruption and money laundering legislation in the places where the ill-gotten gains have ended up, not just in Ukraine. This will require a consistent and sustained change of policy. It should and could have happened sooner in Ukraine.

The corruption at the heart of Ukraine's political system that has enriched the few – and disadvantaged the many – was only sustainable through the knowing compliance of actors in the financial systems of those same states now lecturing Kiev on good governance and democratic values.

The Ukrainian elites have for years salted away ill-gotten gains throughout the EU while the authorities, specifically in the UK, Germany, Austria, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Latvia, failed to apply their anti-corruption and anti-money laundering legislation to stop them.

If this was part of a strategy to woo Ukraine westward, it clearly failed. Those in power decided to throw in their collective lot with Russian's bailout billions despite opposition from the people. The sad truth is that it has taken a near civil war to raise the spectre of financial sanctioning for a kleptocratic regime and its backers.

Although the UK government estimates that £23bn-£57bn a year might be laundered through its financial centre, it issued the first fine for lax anti-money laundering controls in January this year. The UK branch of Standard Bank Group was fined $12.6m – less than 2% of its 2013 first-half earnings.

According to a report by Transparency International UK, the global anti-corruption movement, there is a "tendency to tackle corruption only where there is strong bilateral political support".

In other words, the British government is reluctant to charge foreign citizens with money laundering without the explicit approval and co-operation of that citizen's government. How is this system supposed to work if it is the government officials that are stashing cash and buying villas in faraway places around the world?

The real world consequences of this policy are obvious: the only foreign citizens in danger of investigation, let alone prosecution – Ukrainian or otherwise – are those out of favour with their home governments. Those shielded from prosecution in Ukraine are automatically afforded the same protection in the UK and elsewhere.

Reversing this trend should not be too difficult if there is political will. Investigative journalists and civil society activists have done a stellar job unearthing the links between those in power in Ukraine and huge wealth.

At the Yanukovych.info website, for example, two non-governmental organisations, PEP Watch and the Anticorruption Action Center, have traced the alleged financial dealings of Yanukovych's inner circle showing the interconnectedness of the presidential administration and a myriad of "shell and shelf companies" in London, Austria, the United States and other conventional tax havens.

European money laundering laws can and should be strengthened to force greater due diligence on the part of financial institutions and others. The vote this week in the European parliament to make it mandatory for jurisdictions to keep a register of the beneficial owners of companies could make it harder for people to hide assets in shell companies.

But even as things stand, if the current anti-corruption laws were enforced then the pillaging of assets that we have seen in the Ukraine would have been harder to do.

Transparency International has chapters around the world and we will focus our energy on making sure that the promises to investigate and freeze illicit funds from Ukraine are indeed upheld and criminals sanctioned.

Corruption is a cross-national issue and weak financial oversight only encourages the abuse of power and fiscal malfeasance by offering a safe and easily accessible hiding place for purloined funds. For governments and activists seeking to promote democracy and the rule of law in Ukraine and other transitional countries, the battle starts at home.
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Postby smiths » Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:25 pm

all over the world people like Yanukovych are buying houses in London and running their money through offshore (mostly British) secrecy jurisdictions, and buying luxury shit, etc etc - and the media keep telling us all how broke the system is and how much austerity is needed

according to the first detailed estimate of international purchase activity in London by Knight Frank, the percentage of all central London homes that sold for more than 1 million pounds to foreigners in the 12 months through June 2013, was 49% to be exact. And as we showed yesterday when we put China's loan creation in the context of US and Japanese QE, keeping in mind the use of proceeds of all this newly created inside money has to ultimately go somewhere - that somewhere in this case being London and other global luxury real estate, said percentage is only going to get higher. Especially when one adds Russian, the middle east and other various regions whose oligarchs are desperate to park their money in "safe" havens.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:41 pm

Where is Viktor Yanukovych?

Viktor Yanukovych boasted of Ukraine corruption, says Mikheil Saakashvili
Georgia's former president says deposed Ukrainian leader had 'no idea about morality' and was brazen in his abuse of office

Shaun Walker in Kiev
theguardian.com, Tuesday 25 February 2014 07.42 EST
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Mikheil Saakashvili, the former president of Georgia. Photograph: Jim Watson/AFP/Getty Images
Ukraine's disgraced president, Viktor Yanukovych, used to boast to other heads of state about how corrupt he was, according to Georgia's former president Mikheil Saakashvili.

Yanukovych, who fled Kiev at the weekend and is believed now to be hiding in Crimea, was known for his thuggish behaviour and obsession with money. The extent of his interest in the latter was revealed over the weekend when his lavish presidential compound outside Kiev was opened to the public.

Saakashvili's comments suggest the Ukrainian leader was brazen in his abuse of office. Saakashvili was president of Georgia from 2004 until November, and met Yanukovych on numerous occasions.

He recalled one incident in particular, at the 2011 UN general assembly in New York, when he said Yanukovych bragged at length about how his corrupt government worked, in front of Saakashvili and a group of leaders from post-Soviet countries.

"He would talk very loudly about how he had corrupted senior officials, in the supreme court and the constitutional court," Saakashvili said during an interview in the Ukrainian capital, where he is meeting with opposition leaders after Yanukovych's downfall. "He didn't care who he was talking to; the guy did not have any idea about morality."

Saakashvili said Yanukovych was unique among post-Soviet leaders, even the notoriously ruthless and corrupt central Asian dictators. "The others might be cynical but not to the extent of denouncing themselves. I wasn't that surprised he would do these things, but I was surprised how open he was about it."

He said Yanukovych took great pleasure in talking about his corruption and judicial abuse. "He would tell me at length about criminal cases. He would elaborate on every small detail, and was obsessed and fascinated with the fact that he could really play around with the courts. It's a sign of people who have had problems with the law in the past. It's also a very Soviet mentality; Stalin used to sign the verdict on every serious case."

Saakashvili said Yanukovych was particularly obsessed with Yulia Tymoshenko, the former prime minister who was released from jail over the weekend. She was sentenced to seven years in prison in 2011 for abuse of office, charges that many felt were a personal act of revenge by Yanukovych.

"He had a strange obsession with her," Saakashvili said. "He felt she could never get out of prison or he would be in trouble. European politicians used to come to me and say they had achieved agreement that she would be released, and I was amazed. It was clear he was never going to release her."

Saakashvili swept to power in Georgia after the 2003 rose revolution, and enjoyed a period of successful reforms before he lost popularity and his party lost elections in 2012. He came to Kiev in December to speak at Independence Square and tell Ukrainians to stand up for their freedoms. He was subsequently put on a blacklist and not allowed to enter the country, but with the fall of Yanukovych he was invited back.

He has spoken again at Independence Square and held meetings with Tymoshenko and Vitali Klitschko, two of the frontrunners to win presidential elections in May. Saakashvili said both had a good chance of winning.

He said he had no sympathy for Yanukovych, and painted a damning picture of him as someone who was always looking to do a deal and make extra money. "Even when he was not president, at the time when he was still an opposition leader, we were trying to buy a plane from the Ukrainians for government use, it was a particular type of plane but they did not have them in stock. When I met with him, he offered to sell me one, as a private deal. He said he had a few of them."

Yanukovych was jailed twice on petty offences during his youth, and Saakashvili said the Ukrainian leader reminded him of the so-called thieves-in-law of the late Soviet period. "I knew these kinds of criminals from my youth in Georgia, and he was really a reminder from my childhood," he said.


Ukraine revolution: Where on Earth is Viktor Yanukovych?
Viktor Yanukovych has been on the run since Friday but according to reports he could be in a number of different places around the world
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By Lucy Kinder, map by Tom Shiel4:43PM GMT 25 Feb 2014
Ukraine's former President Viktor Yanukovych is now a fugitive – missing since fleeing Kiev on Friday. But where could he be?
Ukraine
A likely option is that Mr Yanukovych is still in Ukraine. On leaving Kiev he flew 300 miles east to Kharkiv where he stayed in a state residence and recorded his video message, denouncing Ukraine's new leaders.
He then reportedly tried to flee the country on Saturday, out of his political stronghold Donetsk, on his private plane.
However border guards blocked him from taking off, as the jet reportedly lacked the required documents to fly.

New reports suggest that Mr Yanukovych has returned to the Donetsk region and is now holed up in a three-storey bunker in the town of Volnovakha.
Crimea
Ukraine's interim interior minister Arsen Avakov said that Mr Yanukovych was known to have been in the pro-Russian Crimea at midnight on Sunday.
However, he added that Mr Yanukovych and his entourage had now driven off to an unknown destination, having shut down their communications systems.
Mr Yanukovych had apparently holed himself up in the port town of Balaclava on Sunday after attempting to fly out of Belbek airport (eight miles north of Sevastopol).
Locals say that he was turned away at the airport while Mr Avakov said he changed his mind about flying when he heard that the new head of state security service was waiting for him there.
So where next?
Rumours swirled that a yacht linked to Mr Yanukovych was spotted out to sea in the harbour of Balaclava.
The 88ft Bandido, and the 95ft Centurion, both believed to belong to Mr Yanukovych's son, have each been named as the possible vessel.
However the boats could be a smokescreen – some say Mr Yanukovich left Balaclava by car.
UAE
A taxi driver in Kiev swore three days ago that Mr Yanukovych was in the United Arab Emirates – but, despite enthusiastically championing diplomatic relations between the two nations, it is unlikely he has reached the Middle East.
Russia
Assuming Mr Yanukovych has managed to flee abroad, the most likely options would be for him to travel to Russia or other ex-Soviet republics.
Vladimir Putin has already placed the blame for the violence in Ukraine on the protesters, and strongly backed Mr Yanukovych when in government.
The duo have spoken in recent weeks to discuss the crisis but it is unclear as to whether Mr Putin would be happy offering Mr Yanukovych asylum with an arrest warrant out for him.
Mr Putin has not yet spoken publicly about Mr Yanukovych's ousting, but in a phone conversation with German chancellor Angela Merkel he agreed that the “territorial integrity” of Ukraine must be maintained, suggesting Russia may not intervene.
Georgia
If Mr Yanukovych has indeed fled by sea from Balaclava, he would have easy access to a number of countries including Georgia.
Whether they accept him, is a different matter.
Mr Yanukovych had a close friendship with Georgia's former president, Mikheil Saakashvili, but new President Giorgi Margvelashvili condemned the violence in Kiev and urged for dialogue with the opposition.
Bulgaria
Bulgaria would seem another easy choice to sail to in the Black Sea. However the Bulgarian President Rossen Plevneliev called the ousting of Mr Yanukovych a "democratic revolution", seemingly pledging his support for the new government.
Romania
Mr Yanukovych may have more luck in Romania. President Traian Basescu said his country would be prepared to accept refugees from the crisis – although he may not mean the likes of Mr Yanukovych.
Belarus
Mr Yanukovych could take heart from the precedent set in nearby Belarus. President Aleksander Lukashenko took in former Kyrgyzstan president Kurmanbek Bakiyev after he was ousted in 2010.
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Postby AlicetheKurious » Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:03 am

FourthBase wrote:Here's another: South Korea. Or do you picture them as envying North Koreans?


I specifically said in the last 50 years -- for a reason. Because that was the year in which everything changed. Although American Blacks and American Natives might view this more as a change of direction rather than anything else.

Your post is a rambling, incoherent rant meant to illustrate how "educated" you are, instead exposing the yawning gulf of ignorance that comprises your view of the world, of history, of how global economic and military power are used to destroy sovereign countries and enslave their people, your total ignorance of those Other Guys, caricatures of all those savage races who should be damn grateful for...all the "freedom" that is always promised at the end of a gun (or in the sights of an unmanned drone, or inside an "aid package" or a generous international loan), though what is always delivered instead is slavery and despair.

Fourthbase wrote:If I were an Indian, I wouldn't give a shit either way, because either way a white nation was going to trample me...oh,well, maybe I'd be pro-Crown, right, given the lovely hospitality of Canadiannn...errr, nevermind.


Fourthbase wrote:Living in a world where Muslims do not make the rules. They make the worst rules, in general. Or will someone bother making a futile attempt to dispute that, out of an obligatory political-correctness? Ladies, you who bemoan American misogyny, you would prefer the 50-to-500-years-late-to-the-liberation-party Muslim world? No. At the risk of daring to answer for you like a sexist: No, you would not prefer to live in most of the Muslim world. But, hey, correct me if I'm wrong.


Duh, since I'm a non-Muslim woman who lives entirely by choice in a country whose population is around 90% Muslim, that was a bizarre question. Did it ever occur to you that almost everything you think you know is bullshit, or filtered through a sieve of politically-driven, malicious propaganda? Did it ever occur to you that one of the most efficient ways to destroy a nation, to break people, is from within? It so happens that Egyptians -- most of whom are genuinely devout Muslims -- have done more to defeat and destroy the spread of the artificial "Islam" (which has been nicknamed "Zionist Islam") so aggressively promoted by your own country, than any other people.

Fourthbase wrote:They are a fundamentally-backwards culture, ethically, epistemologically, ruled by the worst set of religious memes out of all the extant sets of bad major religious memes. Islam, as it is believed by most Muslims, is an inevitable threat to all civilization, no matter how conservative or progressive. The vision of global Islam dreamed and pursued by the majority of politically-active Muslims in the world will obliterate us all, eventually All. All of our precious rights, all our dearest values. Christian, feminist, capitalist, socialist. Overthrown, given enough time, at their rate of expansion, and given the extraordinary tenetic resiliency of Mohammed's* creed. You ignore the right-wingers on that Malthusian angle at your own liberal peril. And yet, because of the grandiose sociopaths who've ensured that the world stay addicted to their Petroleum, Inc. (Thanks, oil barons! For doubly fucking the world over!) we've all wound up more or less hostage to that same Muslim world none of you would want to live in, logistically beholden to their worst autocrats and theocrats and oligarghs, either the puppet kind or the organic kind, and perhaps it would always be this case no matter what in certain countries if a people's takeover would inevitably lead to a theocratic tyranny like it did in Iran, like it almost did in Egypt. "Yay, go People! Okay, folks, you won, now you get to decide what to do with your lives! The world of possibilities opens before you, beyond the horizon...so, what shall it be?" And the Iranian people said, "Give all the power to this one guy so he can make all our decisions for us because he knows best what the ultimate one guy we must obey would want us to do." That is depressing, frightening given the power to make war. And yet, no one is supposed to be unhappy about this except deluded or agenda-driven American chauvinists, racists, Islamophobes, right-wingers, etc.?


You can't distinguish between the real thing and a caricature that has been given life, funded, armed and unleashed to destroy Muslim people and to demonize them at the same time. You are an ignorant man, with all the shallow self-assurance and smug self-righteousness of those who are as incapable of seeing themselves accurately as they are of seeing "Those Other Guys". In your own insignificant way, you play your part without knowing or caring that you are nothing more than a teeny cog in a big machine that you don't even begin to understand. Maybe it's easier to see from the outside.
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Postby 82_28 » Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:04 am

I like that description: The Artificial Muslim. Totally true. However, I will proffer the anecdote of all the crazy Saudi Arabians I lived near. Drunken, vandalizing, littering motherfuckers, the lot of them. Didn't make me judge whatsoever. As a bartender I guess, I would just ask them forcefully, what the fuck they were doing and keep it down and pick up your trash.

After I did this, left my joint only to have a literal piece of shit outside my doorway that I would hopefully step in.

I chalked it up to youth and not ethnicity or shit like that. But I can see why fuckers "hate" these motherfuckers. I hated my neighbors within allowable respect, but certainly not the total disregard of everyone else.

Oh wait! What does that remind me of? The most disrespectful "nation" of all and the one in which I dwell.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:04 am

Putin orders test of Russian forces amid Ukraine crisis

Crimean Tatar activists turned out by the thousands in Simferopol, Ukraine, on Wednesday to shout down a smaller demonstration by ethnic Russians opposed to the political changes in the Ukrainian capital of Kiev and threatening to secede and annex to Russia. One protester holds aloft a sign declaring "Crimea is Ukraine." (Artur Shvarts / European Pressphoto Agency / February 26, 2014)

By Carol J. Williams
February 26, 2014, 5:35 a.m.

MOSCOW -- Russian President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday ordered a test of the “battle readiness” of military forces deployed to the western and central areas of the country, a likely show of Kremlin muscle to reassure ethnic Russians in Ukraine that their rights and interests will be defended.

The announcement of the “immediate and thorough” readiness exercises was made by Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and reported by the Interfax news agency.

“Putin ordered confirmation of troop capabilities for action in the event of a crisis situation that presents a threat to the military security of the country,” as well as anti-terrorism and emergency response readiness, Shoigu was quoted as saying by Interfax.

The readiness test was ordered amid growing tensions in Ukraine between the Russian-allied eastern areas of the restive country and pro-Western political forces now in control of the capital, Kiev, following a rebellion that drove deposed-President Viktor Yanukovich to flee his office.

Acting Ukrainian President Olexandr Turchynov was to address a public rally in Kiev’s Independence Square late Wednesday to announce proposed appointments to an interim Cabinet to govern Ukraine until a presidential election to replace Yanukovich on May 25 and parliamentary elections expected over the summer.

The current parliament, now largely devoid of lawmakers from Yanukovich’s Party of Regions who defected to the opposition or retreated to their home bases, was to vote on the nominations on Thursday.

Russia had been backing Yanukovich with a promised $15-billion package of loans and energy subsidies after he angered liberal and nationalist politicians in late November by scrapping an association agreement with the European Union. That pact would have enhanced Ukrainian economic ties with the West and opened a path to eventual membership in the bloc.

Yanukovich’s rejection of the EU deal in favor of strengthening ties with Russia, for centuries the dominant political force in Ukraine, set off three months of demonstrations that escalated into rioting last week and a bloody crackdown by security forces. At least 82 people died in the confrontations before an EU-brokered peace accord and agreement on early elections.

Pro-Western opposition politicians who led the rebellion have filled the power vacuum in Kiev, which triggered demonstrations in Russian-speaking areas of eastern and southern Ukraine, where industry remains elaborately entwined with Russia’s economy and Moscow keeps its Black Sea fleet based in Sevastopol.

Several dozen Russians worried about their status in a potentially opposition-ruled Ukraine have been demonstrating for the past three days outside public buildings in Sevastopol, Simferopol, Odessa and other southern cities, some demanding that Russia protect them or that the region secede and annex to Russia.

On Wednesday, rival demonstrations involving thousands of Crimean Tatars, who were exiled from Russia to Crimea by dictator Josef Stalin during World War II, pledged allegiance to Kiev and their place within Ukraine.

Shouts of “Ukraine is not Russia” and “Allahu Akbar” could be heard from the crowd of historically Muslim Tatars as they waved the yellow and blue Ukrainian and Tatar flags in defiance of the considerably smaller pro-Russian turnout, according to news agencies and Ukrainian television.

The Kremlin has taken a cautious approach to the evolving crisis in Ukraine, a country of 46 million and arguably Russia’s most important ally as most of Moscow’s exports of natural gas pass through pipelines on Ukrainian territory.

In Moscow, the speaker of the upper house of the Russian parliament dismissed warnings by Russian nationalist politicians that the Kremlin would take military action against Ukraine if it senses any threat to the Russian-speaking population, which numbers about 7.5 million.

“This scenario is impossible,” said Valentina Matvienko, speaker of the Federation Council. “Russia has been stating and reiterating its stance that we have no right and cannot interfere in domestic affairs of a sovereign state. We are for Ukraine as a united state, and there should be no basis
Crimean Tatar activists turned out by the thousands in Simferopol, Ukraine, on Wednesday to shout down a smaller demonstration by ethnic Russians opposed to the political changes in the Ukrainian capital of Kiev and threatening to secede and annex to Russia. One protester holds aloft a sign declaring "Crimea is Ukraine." (Artur Shvarts / European Pressphoto Agency / February 26, 2014

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