Libya, Syria And Now Ukraine - Color Revolution By Force

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Re: Libya, Syria And Now Ukraine - Color Revolution By Force

Postby Sounder » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:41 am

Ah, the old, they are way worse than us, so it's A-OK to directly fund the Azov battalion or whatever it takes (genocide to change the demographics in the east) to keep Ukraine in the western orbit, because,....Putin is a really bad, bad man.

Call me a sell out, ban me, etc I dont care.


Ban you? Kidding right?

I fucking HATE Russia, and I see them way more of a threat than the US.


How so?
You think I like the idea of living in California and having long range tactical nuke armed Russian jets patrol my coastline, or Alaska or Canada or the east coast


But our operations aimed at destabilizing their whole country with NGO's, economic coercion and surrounding them with military bases, should cause no anxiety on their part?

And all these people calling Ukraine a bunch of fascists.


Not just 'calling' them fascists.

Russia IS THE MOST far right gay hating minority killing psychopathic group on the plannet.


Soro's propaganda has worked well on you.
Russia was the main arm suppliers to the Sudanese genocide. Putin orchestrated false flag terror attacks to oppress Muslims. Putin orders the assassination of hundreds of journalists.


How many countries has Russia bombed? How many countries are the western powers bombing, RIGHT NOW?

Don't tell me Russia is innocent. Russia is worse than they ever were during the Cold War, and sorry if I lose conspiracy progressive points for saying so


I doubt if anyone did, this world is complex. How are they 'worse than ever'?

I'm pretty sure you gain progressive conspiracy points by saying so.
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Re: Those nasty Russians

Postby Sounder » Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:02 am

http://russia-insider.com/en/business_c ... ion_female

Russia Has the World's Highest Proportion of Female Executives

• Russia takes home the gold for the highest proportion of women in high-level job titles, with 43 percent

• The United States ranked towards the bottom of the list with just 22 percent of women in senior management, which also falls below the dismal global average of 24 percent

• But we thought that Russia hates women?
All these things will continue as long as coercion remains a central element of our mentality.
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Re: Libya, Syria And Now Ukraine - Color Revolution By Force

Postby slimmouse » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:27 am

Ahh........."The russians dunnit."

Next, it will be The Chinese dunnit.

8bit...Im just dissapointed that you havent understood that the rich dunnit yet

The Empire dunnit. The architects of binary thinking dunnit. Theres some really great stuff at the back end of the Soros/global fascism thread that searcher started which should give you all the clues you might need wrt whoreallydunnit - in fact it would prove this to anyone but an idiot.

And you aint no idiot.
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Re: Libya, Syria And Now Ukraine - Color Revolution By Force

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:36 am

DECEMBER 03, 2014

Cold War Heating Up
Russia, the West, and Gas Pipelines
by NORMAN POLLACK
The US/EU discouragement of the South Stream project to supply natural gas to Western Europe is a prime example of rigid ideology gunning for confrontation no matter the cost, a permanent war mindset directed to Russia and China and broader militarization of power in perhaps intuitive recognition of the West’s own pending decline in face of its own cannibalistic, indeed self-devouring, mode of capitalism. In world history, the dissolution of American unilateral military-economic-political supremacy, and that of its tributaries (“friends and allies”) engrossed in wars of regime change and counterrevolution, as well as embarking on participation in the Grand Showdown with Adversaries, Putin and Li, to foster an ancien regime of advanced capitalism, US-defined and –sanctioned, in perpetuity. Sorry Obama, sorry Morgan Chase, Exxon Mobil, Monsanto, the whole kit and caboodle of corporate-financial America, intervention, sanctions, IMF/World Bank machinations, Pacific-first carrier battle groups, drone assassinations as a means of displaying American power and cynicism, won’t prevail in the long run. Even possibly, the next decade. For these are all stop-gap measures in postponing the inevitable, that others, beyond the West-centric global system, want and will gain a place in the sun. And I’m sorry to report, the New York Times cannot always have its way, sucking at the teat of American power.

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Ukraine is the Tonkin Gulf of an earlier day, the flimsy pretext for gearing up for battle, presently, economic, but, should NATO forces via Ukraine be stationed on the Russian border, Putin will be more than chagrined, and Li, the Great American Pivot placing a military concentration in the Far East, ditto. Only a declining Empire has dreams of suicidal intent, vindictively bringing everyone down with it, notably, our “partners” in Europe. And what better means of forcing the issue, than energy—oil, in traditional terms, now gas as well. Ideology has been raised a significant notch, from earlier Cold War anticommunist hysteria, to the vaguer, more sinister, potentially more horrendous and encompassing Counter-Terrorism of today. Never mind ISIL, although that will do for starters; China and Russia lurk in the shadows, and North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela can be counted on for raising the war temperature of the American public. But at this very moment, let’s turn to pipelines, a presumed sign of Russian aggression. Russia is adopting the Turkish route to markets, enabling it to direct supplies around a hostile EU, and at the same time, ease age-old tensions with China by entering into contracts which supply that country as well.

Michael Birnbaum’s Washington Post article, “Putin cancels new natural gas pipeline to Europe in a surprise move,” (Dec. 2), captures the Cold War context of the decision, “a measure of the dramatically reshaped relations between Russia and the West,” a move which, the reporter claims, “deprives the Kremlin of a tool that would have increased Russian political influence over southeastern Europe and detoured natural gas around Ukraine, leaving it more vulnerable to Russia.” In a word, Putin’s defeat, prompted by EU leaders who “intensified their opposition to the plans because of the grinding conflict in Ukraine.” The defeat is problematic, here disguised as a Western victory; Russia’s underwriting of the project, where it would take all the risks, clearly benefited Europe. Yet the concern was that for Russia to pursue “grand expensive infrastructure projects in Europe,” as for example, sending large quantities of gas underneath the Black Sea, would give “political clout through energy supplies.” Putin cancelled the project.

Putin, in his Ankara press conference with President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey, Dec. 1, responding to Western sanctions and hostility, particularly EU pressure on Bulgaria to prevent construction, seemed completely rational: “’If Europe does not want to implement the project, then it won’t be implemented. We will refocus our energy resources to other parts of the world. It would be ridiculous for us to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on the project, go all the way through the Black Sea and then stand in front of the Bulgarian border,“ only to find Bulgaria rejecting the project. For Russian leaders, “the new southern gas route to Europe would have shielded E.U. consumers from energy disputes between Ukraine and Russia.” But no, anti-Russian politics triumphed. Instead of welcoming the opportunity for improved relations, Europe would continue business as usual. Western sanctions, Birnbaum observes, “made foreign investors wary of ties to major Russian state-owned companies, including Gazprom, the natural gas giant that was leading the effort to build the pipeline. Restrictions on long-term lending to major Russian banks have made it difficult for Russian companies to raise money for new projects.” (Presumably, if Gazprom had invited in Exxon-Mobil, tensions would have been relaxed—mine.)

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If one compare the title of the Post’s article with that of the New York Times, “In Diplomatic Defeat, Putin Diverts Pipeline to Turkey,” (Dec. 2), the Post may be negative, but NYT goes overboard. Andrew Roth’s vitriol, in his opening sentence, states: “President Vladimir V. Putin said Monday that he would scrap Russia’s South Stream gas pipeline, a grandiose project that was once intended to establish the country’s dominance in southeastern Europe but instead fell victim to Russia’s increasingly toxic relationship with the West.” He next not-subtly demonizes Putin (already now implied): “It was a rare diplomatic defeat for Mr. Putin, who said Russia would redirect the pipeline to Turkey. He painted the failure to build the pipeline as a loss for Europe and blamed Brussels for its intransigence.” But of course the important point is not NYT bias, but the actual issues, including the developing context for heightening Cold War tensions. Roth sees the decision as “a rare victory” for the EU and the Obama administration, finally overcoming their “largely impotent” condition following Russian aggression in Ukraine. (Impotence? Hardly, in light of the Ukrainian coup, NATO mobilization, tightening of already burdensome sanctions, etc.)

Ukraine was the stumbling block, accounting for “increased pressure from Europe against the pipeline,” antecedently, though, a rejection of Putin’s claim that “the $22 billion South Stream project [was] a sound business move,” Washington and Brussels “dismiss[ing] it as a thinly veiled attempt by the Kremlin to cement its position as the dominant supplier in Europe”—in effect, a stealth attack on the West. Always the Other Guy benefits: “If there was one winner it was Turkey, which, along with China and other energy-hungry developing nations, has been exploiting the East-West rift to gain long-term energy supplies at bargain prices.” The reporter is, if anything, candid: “As the Ukraine crisis deepened, eventually developing into a Cold War-like standoff, the Western powers became determined to resist Mr. Putin’s aggressive policies at every turn. One such effort was the South Stream pipeline.”

Tacit admission (and I think correctly) that the West viewed energy as part of the larger confrontation, at one with the recognition that the global power structure, with the addition of China, was changing as the Russia-China rapprochement—precisely because, in part, of energy—was taking place. Still laboring under the idea of Russia’s pipeline defeat, Roth is perhaps unaware the opposite is happening, far more consequential in geopolitical terms: “The Ukraine conflict also helped turn Mr. Putin away from the West. He signed a major and long-delayed deal to provide gas to China and began seeking other, non-European markets for his oil and gas. This, too, made the pipeline more expendable.” Add to this the imputation of Putin the power-mad ruler of a Russia anxious to restore its bygone prestige, and you have the narrative complete: “The Russian president directs energy and pipeline strategy personally, as perhaps the major source of power he wields in the international arena.” As I note below, Putin’s point about EU pressure on Bulgaria to freeze construction, that it denies Bulgarians of “fees of up to $500 million annually…[and deprives them] ‘of the opportunity to act as a sovereign state,’” elicits Roth’s jibe that Putin said that “with a rhetorical twist of the knife.”

My New York Times Comment on the Roth article, same date, follows:

What “Diplomatic Defeat”? How Putin’s decision can be construed as a defeat at the hands of the US/EU reveals an NYT deep bias against both Putin and Russia (Roth’s aside, “rhetorical twist of the knife,” should have been flagged as rancid hate-mongering, not the first for that reporter.) Try for once an objective appraisal. This route-shift will directly hurt Western Europe, encourage closer Sino-Russian relations, and increase Turkey’s role in the Middle East (to the obvious consternation of Israel–after the aid-altercation to Gaza).

If anything, Putin took the principled stand, as evident by the original route which, given the opposition, he was forced to change. I may sound bitter, but I think the US is steering toward a renewed Cold War under Obama, taking on Russia and China as putative interrelated THREATS. Ultimately, this will backfire, as the global geopolitical framework experiences a decentralization from US unilateral hegemony.
Europe will shiver. But The Times will gloat at what it takes as the West’s having given Putin a black eye. Meanwhile, both Russia and China are dramatically strengthening, not only because of their respective internal development, but also US go-for-broke diplomatic/military shortsightedness.

By all means, Keystone uber alles, fracking and all.
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Libya, Syria And Now Ukraine - Color Revolution By Force

Postby 8bitagent » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:04 pm

slimmouse » Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:27 am wrote:Ahh........."The russians dunnit."

Next, it will be The Chinese dunnit.

8bit...Im just dissapointed that you havent understood that the rich dunnit yet

The Empire dunnit. The architects of binary thinking dunnit. Theres some really great stuff at the back end of the Soros/global fascism thread that searcher started which should give you all the clues you might need wrt whoreallydunnit - in fact it would prove this to anyone but an idiot.

And you aint no idiot.


I don't like any thuggish government. Just because I don't like Los Zetas Mexican drug terror cartels doesn't mean I like Sinola.

It's interesting the news lately that the government of both Syria and Iran are now routinely bombing ISIS positions in Syria and Iran right along side US fighter jets.
America and Iran and Syria sitting in a tree, I-S-I-S ing. Why it was just a year ago neocons were pushing the US to go to war against Syria and Iran. But I hate the Syrian government as well for using barrel bombs and being involved in the war that has killed over 200,000 people in the last few years.
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Re: Libya, Syria And Now Ukraine - Color Revolution By Force

Postby slimmouse » Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:56 am

Ever heard of the ''Tulip"" revolution of ''95 ?

Another George Soros production.

For more news of this along with the latest exploits of this great philanthropist, you can join the presentation below at around the 40 minute mark, which goes on to detail amongst many other things how Mr Soros funded a survey which was, so it is claimed, clearly designed to provoke racism.

If you didnt laugh, you''d simply end up weeping....

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Postby conniption » Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:43 pm

Putin's 2014 Federal Assembly address in full

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvciyvcBwPA
Published on Dec 4, 2014

Russian President Vladimir Putin is addressing the Federal Assembly - both houses of parliament, the cabinet and other dignitaries - outlining his stance on his policies for the coming year.
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Re: Libya, Syria And Now Ukraine - Color Revolution By Force

Postby American Dream » Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:36 pm

Syrian Fascism and the Western Left

Submitted by Oriana P on Sat, 10/11/2014

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by Nicole Gevirtz


Antun Saadeh was a Lebanese Christian who founded the Syrian Socialist Nationalist Party (SSNP) in 1932. He was an unabashed Germanophile and made no secret of his admiration for Hitler while teaching German at the American University of Beirut. The expansionist polices of Nazi Germany touched him the most. The “Syrian” in SSNP refers to the idea of a “Greater Syria” on steroids; it would encapsulate the lands of Palestine, the Sinai, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, and the island of Cyprus along with modern-day Syria.

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Saadeh’s organization is a literal copy of the German NSAP, including doctrines of racist pseudo-science, a personality cult, and a Swastika-like flag.

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Continues at: http://therawrreport.net/content/syrian ... stern-left
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Postby American Dream » Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:37 pm

http://tahriricn.wordpress.com/2013/12/ ... upporters/

SYRIA: Who are Assad’s fascist supporters?

DEC 11

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From Black Lilly blog, presumed to be a rally in Greece

By Leila Shrooms

The Assad regime has won the support of fascists and far-right nationalist parties and organizations across Europe. These include the National Front (France), Forza Nuova and CasaPound (Italy), Golden Dawn and Black Lilly (Greece), the British National Party (UK) and the National Rebirth of Poland, Falanga and All Polish Youth (Poland).

This support can be attributed to: anti-imperialist/anti-globalism sentiment with a strong focus on national states (they believe the Assad regime protects the Syrian state against US imperialism), Islamophobia (they believe the Assad regime fights Islamic extremists), anti-semitism (they believe Assad’s regime acts as resistance to Israel). All of these beliefs rest on fallacy and an uncritical perpetuation of regime narratives.[1] They are also positions shared (although without the racist element) by sections of the left. Another reason is likely to be concern about increased Arab migration to Europe where fascists in a number of countries have protested against and harassed Syrian refugees.[2]

Some of these groups have a history of support for the Assad regime but recently the support has been more visible. Fascist groups from Europe have traveled to Syria in solidarity with Syria’s tyrant and to carry out what they call “fact-finding missions”. In June 2013, a delegation of far-right and nationalist European politicians traveled on an officially sponsored visit to Damascus. Nick Griffin leader the British National Party (BNP) was one of the members of this delegation who found that apart from “occasional explosions”, life in Damascus was “normal”. He also praised the militant, sectarian, Jihadi group Hizbullah for their role in supporting the regime.[3] The BNP’s policies include: re-introducing corporal and capital punishment for certain crimes, abolishing anti-discrimination laws, making an agreement with the Muslim world “to take back their excess population which is currently colonising this country/[the UK]”, deporting all illegal migrants and those who commit crimes if their original nationality is not British, and rejecting all asylum seekers who passed through safe countries before arriving in Britain.[4] They have taken part in violent anti-Muslim protests and racist attacks.[5] Other members of the delegation included far right Parliament and European Parliament members from Poland, Russia and Belgium.[6]

Also in June, Polish fascists from Falanga travelled on a solidarity mission to Syria and met with the Syrian Prime Minister Wael Al Halqi and Deputy Foreign Minister Faisal Mekdad in Damascus. In Beirut they met with representatives from the Syrian Social Nationalist Party, a fascist party.[7] Falanga is a group which advocates stripping Polish Jews of their citizenship rights and has attacked Jews and their businesses. Activists from the neo-nazi All Polish Youth have held demonstrations in support of Assad on the invite of the Syrian Embassy in Poland.[8]

The European Solidarity Front is another group which, whilst not openly fascist, has strong fascist connections. It has been active in the anti-war protests for Syria across Europe. Founded in January 2013 it states that: “The European Solidarity Front is open to all those who love Syria, and support solidarity with President Assad, the Syrian nation and its army. The main founders of this project are from Italy, Greece, Cyprus, Belgium, the Netherlands, Finland and Spain, but we quickly found enthusiastic support from a number of militants activate in different countries, and more specifically in Poland, France , Czech Republic, Romania, Ireland, Serbia, Great Britain, Scotland, Malta, Ukraine, Denmark, Sweden, Canada and Argentina.”[9] As well as organizing protests in support of Syria’s dictator they also organize conferences. In Italy these have been hosted by CasaPound, an Italian fascist organization that expresses admiration for former dictator Mussolini, has carried out racist protests against the Roma community and violent attacks on anti fascists and leftists.[10] The ESF also invites speakers such as Belgian Third Positionist Ruben Sosiers to their conferences. Their common cause is the fight against “Western Imperialist Propaganda”.[11] Poland’s largest fascist organization National Rebirth of Poland, that recently carried out this attack on an antifa squat in Warsaw and attacks homosexuals, are also part of the European Solidarity Front.[12] It has been suggested that the ESF may get direct financial support from the Syrian government as “hundreds of flags, posters, and flights to Syria don’t pay for themselves ”.[13] Further this network of European fascists may use the situation in Syria as a key method of fundraising as such groups “are able to gain greater resources through their Syria campaign than they are usually capable of mustering.”[14]

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Italian delegation of the European Solidarity Front with Syrian Army soldiers in Damascus. From ESF website

Between 30 August and 9 September 2013, an Italian delegation from the European Solidarity Front for Syria travelled to Damascus and Tartus, which they describe as “the most important Russian center in the Mediterranean sea and the fortress of Assad’s government”. Their trip was “in support of the legitimate government of Bashar Al Assad and the Syrian people.” During their trip they also met with the Syrian Prime Minister and Deputy Foreign Minister. A video of their trip (in Italian) is here. They were also part of the delegation that met with Wissam Samira from the Syrian Social-Nationalist Party, alongside Polish fascists in June.[15]

Greek fascists, from Black Lilly (Mavros Krinos), have gone one step further and have fighters on the ground in Syria and claim to have fought alongside Hizbullah and Assad forces in the brutal assault on Qusayr.[16] Black Lilly is an autonomous nationalist organization which combines aspects of anarchism with extremist far right ideology. They also claim that “thousands of Russians, Ukranians and Poles” from fascist groups have “declared themselves ready to fight alongside ‘The Lion of Syria’ i.e. Bashar al-Assad”.[17] Black Lilly are also part of the European Solidarity Front for Syria.[18]

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Endnotes:

[1] Assad rhetoric to justify the Syrian regime and its oppression of Syrian citizens is not matched by reality. Whilst the Syrian regime has been an vocal opponent of the US policy in the region, it has also cooperated with the US when in its own interests – such as participating with the US in the first Gulf War on Iraq, as well as Bashar Al Assad’s cooperation with the US’s illegal rendition programme. Militant Jihadi groups have infiltrated Syria since the uprising began, but the regime has done little to oppose them and even released many militant Jihadis from prison at the beginning of the uprising. The overwhelmingly majority of prisoners currently in Assad’s jails are secular, non-violent, civil activists. Moreover, military attacks carried out by the regime mainly target civilian areas or areas under control of the Free Syrian Army (FSA) while the strongholds and headquarters of ISIS and JAN (Al Qaeda affiliated groups) are spared. It is the grassroots civil opposition and the FSA that have provided most opposition to militant Jihadi groups. There has also been little evidence beyond rhetoric of the Syrian regime’s resistance to Israel. Not only has the Syrian regime never carried out attacks on Israel (even in retaliation for Israeli aggression) it has also brutally repressed Palestinian liberation movements. In fact it seems that the sole purpose of the regimes “war with Israel” was to justify the continued application of Emergency Law which stripped Syrian citizens of their rights and gave unlimited powers to security forces.

[2] ‘German neo-Nazis protest at refugee center in Berlin’ http://www.dw.de/german-neo-nazis-prote ... a-17037793

[3] Ian Black, ‘BNP leader Nick Griffin visits Syria’, The Guardian, (11 June 2013) http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... yria-assad

[4] British National Party Website, policies section http://www.bnp.org.uk 

[5] See, Stop the BNP http://www.stopthebnp.org.uk/uncovered/pg02.htm

[6] Ian Black, ‘BNP leader Nick Griffin visits Syria’, The Guardian, (11 June 2013) http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... yria-assad

[7] ‘Polish Comrades Report to Open Revolt from Syria’, Open Revolt, (15 June 2013) http://openrevolt.info/2013/06/15/polis ... rom-syria/

[8] Black Adder, ‘Syrian Embassy invites Polish fascists to demonstrate solidarity with Al-Assad’, http://libcom.org/news/syrian-embassy-i ... d-28082012 

[9] Italian page of the European Solidarity Front, ‘Who we are’ section, http://www.frontesiria.org/?page_id=60

[10] For more information on CasaPound see, Ed, ‘CasaPound and the new radical right in Italy’, (June 2011) http://libcom.org/library/casa-pound-ne ... ight-italy 

[11] Laura Eduati, ‘Manifestazione pro Assad: a Roma fascisti da tutta Europa per celebrare il governo siriano’, (5 June 2013) http://www.huffingtonpost.it/2013/06/05 ... 90190.html (In Italian)

[12] ‘Rzym: NOP za Syrią Assada’ (30 June 2013) http://www.nop.org.pl/2013/06/30/rzym-n ... ia-assada/ (In Polish)
[13] Brian Whelan, ‘Are Greek neo-nazis fighting for Assad in Syria?’ (October 2013) http://www.vice.com/read/are-greek-neo- ... -in-syria1

[14] Ibid.

[15] English Facebook page of the European Solidarity Front: https://www.facebook.com/pages/European ... 3615449307

[16] Panagiotis Liakos ‘The Greek National Socialists that are fighting alongside Assad’s regime are far more dangerous than Golden Dawn’, (September 2013) http://tahriricn.wordpress.com/2013/09/ ... lden-dawn/ 

[17] Ibid.

[18] Brian Whelan, ‘Are Greek neo-nazis fighting for Assad in Syria?’ (October 2013) http://www.vice.com/read/are-greek-neo- ... -in-syria1
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Postby American Dream » Sun Dec 07, 2014 2:52 pm

http://threewayfight.blogspot.com/2013/ ... egime.html

Sunday, September 08, 2013

Syrian Anarchist Challenges the Rebel/Regime Binary View of Resistance

This interview with Nader Atassi, published on Truthout, has been getting some well-deserved attention. Atassi cites a number of voices in Syria concerned with self-determination between two unsatisfactory poles -- "not only anarchists, but Trotskyists, Marxists, leftists, and even some liberals." These passages stood out for me:

"The mainstream coverage always tries to portray people as belonging to some kind of binary. But the Syrian revolution erupted as people demanding self-determination from the one party that was denying it to them: the regime of Bashar al Assad. As time passed, other actors came onto the scene who also denied Syrians their self-determination, even some who fought against the regime. But the position was never simply to be against the regime for the sake of being against the regime… The regime took self-determination away from the people, and any removal of the regime that results in replacing it with someone else who will dominate Syrians should not be seen as a success."

"There is consensus across the board, from US to Russia to Iran, that no matter what happens in Syria, regime institutions should remain intact. The same institutions that were built by the dictatorship. The same institutions that plundered Syria and provoked the popular discontent that started this uprising. The same institutions that are merely the remnants of French colonialism. Everyone in Syria knows that the US's preferred candidates for leadership roles in any future Syria are those Syrians who were part of the regime and then defected: Ba'athist bureaucrats turned neoliberal technocrats turned 'defectors.' These are the people the US would have rule Syria."
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Postby 8bitagent » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:59 am

Greek fascists, from Black Lilly (Mavros Krinos), have gone one step further and have fighters on the ground in Syria and claim to have fought alongside Hizbullah and Assad forces in the brutal assault on Qusayr.[16] Black Lilly is an autonomous nationalist organization which combines aspects of anarchism with extremist far right ideology. They also claim that “thousands of Russians, Ukranians and Poles” from fascist groups have “declared themselves ready to fight alongside ‘The Lion of Syria’ i.e. Bashar al-Assad”.[17] Black Lilly are also part of the European Solidarity Front for Syria.[18]


It's such a surreal meta wtf schism when one one hand you have neo Nazis like mass terrorist Anders Breivik, or groups like the BNP, French right wingers and other north European fascists side WITH Israel in their anti Muslim agenda...

And then you have neo Nazis in Russia, Ukraine and Greece somehow supporting the mass murderous thug regime of the Bashir al Assad Syrian regime. I don't care personally that the US, NATO and Western Allies
are suddenly buddy buddy with Assad in helping to attack the Islamic State/ISIS. I don't care Washington think tank neocons have been trying to find a way to take down Assad. For me I say fuck Assad. I see no difference
between Assad and ISIS, or the US/Western horror show in Iraq and Afghanistan since 2001. They're all mass murder thugs in my book. Trying to pick sides is like siding between Los Zetas and the Sinola cartels.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:45 am

Ukraine’s Made-in-USA Finance Minister
December 5, 2014

Exclusive: A top problem of Ukraine has been corruption and cronyism, so it may raise eyebrows that new Finance Minister Natalie Jaresko, an ex-U.S. diplomat and newly minted Ukrainian citizen, was involved in insider dealings while managing a $150 million U.S. AID-backed investment fund, writes Robert Parry.

By Robert Parry

Ukraine’s new Finance Minister Natalie Jaresko, a former U.S. State Department officer who was granted Ukrainian citizenship only this week, headed a U.S. government-funded investment project for Ukraine that involved substantial insider dealings, including $1 million-plus fees to a management company that she also controlled.

Jaresko served as president and chief executive officer of Western NIS Enterprise Fund (WNISEF), which was created by the U.S. Agency for International Development (U.S. AID) with $150 million to spur business activity in Ukraine. She also was cofounder and managing partner of Horizon Capital which managed WNISEF’s investments at a rate of 2 to 2.5 percent of committed capital, fees exceeding $1 million in recent years, according to WNISEF’s 2012 annual report.

Ukraine's new Finance Minister Natalie Jaresko.
Ukraine’s new Finance Minister Natalie Jaresko.
The growth of that insider dealing at the U.S.-taxpayer-funded WNISEF is further underscored by the number of paragraphs committed to listing the “related party transactions,” i.e., potential conflicts of interest, between an early annual report from 2003 and the one a decade later.

In the 2003 report, the “related party transactions” were summed up in two paragraphs, with the major item a $189,700 payment to a struggling computer management company where WNISEF had an investment.

In the 2012 report, the section on “related party transactions” covered some two pages and included not only the management fees to Jaresko’s Horizon Capital ($1,037,603 in 2011 and $1,023,689 in 2012) but also WNISEF’s co-investments in projects with the Emerging Europe Growth Fund [EEGF], where Jaresko was founding partner and chief executive officer. Jaresko’s Horizon Capital also managed EEGF.

From 2007 to 2011, WNISEF co-invested $4.25 million with EEGF in Kerameya LLC, a Ukrainian brick manufacturer, and WNISEF sold EEGF 15.63 percent of Moldova’s Fincombank for $5 million, the report said. It also listed extensive exchanges of personnel and equipment between WNISEF and Horizon Capital.

Though it’s difficult for an outsider to ascertain the relative merits of these insider deals, they could reflect negatively on Jaresko’s role as Ukraine’s new finance minister given the country’s reputation for corruption and cronyism, a principal argument for the U.S.-backed “regime change” that ousted elected President Viktor Yanukovych last February.

Declining Investments

Based on the data from WNISEF’s 2012 annual report, it also appeared that the U.S. taxpayers had lost about one-third of their investment in WNISEF, with the fund’s balance at $98,074,030, compared to the initial U.S. government grant of $150 million.

Given the collapsing Ukrainian economy since the Feb. 22 coup, the value of the fund is likely to have slipped even further. (Efforts to get more recent data from WNISEF’s and Horizon Capital’s Web sites were impossible Friday because the sites were down.)

Beyond the long list of “related party transactions” in the annual report, there also have been vague allegations of improprieties involving Jaresko from one company insider, her ex-husband, Ihor Figlus. But his whistle-blowing was shut down by a court order issued at Jaresko’s insistence.

John Helmer, a longtime foreign correspondent in Russia, disclosed the outlines of this dispute in an article examining Jaresko’s history as a recipient of U.S. AID’s largesse and how it enabled her to become an investment banker via WNISEF, Horizon Capital and Emerging Europe Growth Fund.

Helmer wrote: “Exactly what happened when Jaresko left the State Department to go into her government-paid business in Ukraine has been spelled out by her ex-husband in papers filed in the Chancery Court of Delaware in 2012 and 2013. …

“Without Figlus and without the US Government, Jaresko would not have had an investment business in Ukraine. The money to finance the business, and their partnership stakes, turns out to have been loaned to Figlus and Jaresko from Washington.”

According to Helmer’s article, Figlus had reviewed company records in 2011 and concluded that some loans were “improper,” but he lacked the money to investigate so he turned to Mark Rachkevych, a reporter for the Kyiv Post, and gave him information to investigate the propriety of the loans.

“When Jaresko realized the beans were spilling, she sent Figlus a reminder that he had signed a non-disclosure agreement” and secured a temporary injunction in Delaware on behalf of Horizon Capital and EEGF to prevent Figlus from further revealing company secrets, Helmer wrote.

“It hasn’t been rare for American spouses to go into the asset management business in the former Soviet Union, and make profits underwritten by the US Government with information supplied from their US Government positions or contacts,” Helmer continued. “It is exceptional for them to fall out over the loot.”

Jaresko, who served in the U.S. Embassy in Kiev after the collapse of the Soviet Union, has said that Western NIS Enterprise Fund was “funded by the U.S. government to invest in small and medium-sized businesses in Ukraine and Moldova – in essence, to ‘kick-start’ the private equity industry in the region.”

While the ultimate success of that U.S.-funded endeavor may still be unknown, it is clear that the U.S. AID money did “kick-start” Jaresko’s career in equity investments and put her on the path that has now taken her to the job of Ukraine’s new finance minister. Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko cited her experience in these investment fields to explain his unusual decision to bring in an American to run Ukraine’s finances and grant her citizenship.

A Big Investment

The substantial U.S. government sum invested in Jaresko’s WNISEF-based equity fund also sheds new light on how it was possible for Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs Victoria Nuland to tally up U.S. spending on Ukraine since it became independent in 1991 and reach the astounding figure of “more than $5 billion,” which she announced to a meeting of U.S.-Ukrainian business leaders last December as she was pushing for “regime change” in Kiev.

The figure was so high that it surprised some of Nuland’s State Department colleagues. Several months later – after a U.S.-backed coup had overthrown Yanukovych and pitched Ukraine into a nasty civil war – Under Secretary of State for Public Affairs Richard Stengel cited the $5 billion figure as “ludicrous” Russian disinformation after hearing the number on Russia’s RT network.

Stengel, a former Time magazine editor, didn’t seem to know that the figure had come from a fellow senior State Department official.

Nuland’s “more than $5 billion” figure did seem high, even if one counted the many millions of dollars spent over the past couple of decades by U.S. AID (which puts its contributions to Ukraine at $1.8 billion) and the U.S.-funded National Endowment for Democracy, which has financed hundreds of projects for supporting Ukrainian political activists, media operatives and non-governmental organizations.

But if one looks at the $150 million largesse bestowed on Natalie Jaresko, you can begin to understand the old adage that a hundred million dollars here and a hundred million dollars there soon adds up to real money.

Those payments over more than two decades to various people and entities in Ukraine also constitute a major investment in Ukrainian operatives who are now inclined to do the U.S. government’s bidding.
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Canada to Train Ukrainian Military Police
OTTAWA, Ontario — Dec 8, 2014, 11:56 AM ET

Canada's defense minister says Canadian soldiers are arriving in Ukraine to help train military police.

The training is part of an agreement Canadian Defense Minister Rob Nicholson signed Monday in Kiev pledging Canadian help in the face of Russian aggression. Nicolson wouldn't say how many trainers are being deployed or how long they will stay.

Canada has already donated helmets, tents and sleeping bags as well as tactical communication systems and night vision goggles.

Russian President Vladimir Putin received a less-than-warm welcome from Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper last month when he approached Harper for a handshake at the G-20 summit in Australia. Harper told Putin: "I guess I'll shake your hand, but I have only one thing to say to you: You need to get out of Ukraine."
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Postby conniption » Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:01 pm

8bitagent » Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:18 am wrote:Call me a sell out, ban me, etc I dont care. I fucking HATE Russia, and I see them way more of a threat than the US. You think I like the idea of living in California and having long range tactical nuke armed Russian jets patrol my coastline, or Alaska or Canada or the east coast

And all these people calling Ukraine a bunch of fascists. Russia IS THE MOST far right gay hating minority killing psychopathic group on the plannet. Russia was the main arm suppliers to the Sudanese genocide. Putin orchestrated false flag terror attacks to oppress Muslims. Putin orders the assassination of hundreds of journalists.

Don't tell me Russia is innocent. Russia is worse than they ever were during the Cold War, and sorry if I lose conspiracy progressive points for saying so



I'm sorry you feel that way.

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Weekend Edition December 12-14, 2014

The Trigger-Happy West

Blaming Russia for Everything?

by BRIAN CLOUGHLEY

The Fox News website headline of November 20 was startling. The world was informed that “Russian Bombers Threaten Guam”, which was an astonishing revelation. What on earth could be happening? Could this “threat” be a run-up to war?

But even Fox News had to report the US Pacific Command statement that “the aircraft were flying safely in international airspace and in accordance with international norms.” There was not the slightest indication that there was any threat to Guam, but this didn’t stop other reports that “two Russian strategic bombers circled the US island of Guam last week in what US defense officials say is the latest in a series of nuclear provocations by Moscow.”

(Guam is an “unincorporated organized territory” of the United States — a colony, in other words — whose citizens are not permitted to vote in US presidential elections and whose member in Congress is not allowed to vote on anything. It lies 6,000 miles from the west coast of the United States and 2,000 miles from the east coast of Russia. In April 2014, President Obama declared that “the United States and Japan are also making sustained progress towards realizing a geographically distributed, operationally resilient, and politically sustainable US force posture in the Asia Pacific, including the development of Guam as a strategic hub.”)

It wasn’t apparent how US defense officials could declare so conclusively that Russia was indulging in “nuclear provocations” but details like that do not matter in the river of anti-Russian propaganda that is surging day by day. The headlines are eye-catching — as well as mind-bending — and the allegations that Russia is intent on war are reaching flood levels.

On December 4 the US House of Representatives passed legislation demonstrating US official hatred of and hostility to Russia. It is now official policy that the United States of America “strongly condemn[s] the actions of the Russian Federation, under President Vladimir Putin, which has carried out a policy of aggression against neighboring countries aimed at political and economic domination.”

The sponsor of the legislation stated that “The US, Europe and our allies must aggressively keep the pressure on Mr. Putin to encourage him to change his behaviour.”

It is apparent that these people don’t only want to confront Russia — they want war.

For once the legislators took their cue from the White House, because the president of the United States has said that Russia was involved in the shooting down of the Malaysian aircraft, Flight MH17, over Ukraine. His statement at the recent meeting of the G-20 countries in Australia was the most objectionable and insulting made by any US president about Russia since the height of the Cold War, which he and his Congressional allies have now revived. He announced that the United States was “leading in opposing Russia’s aggression, which is a threat to the world — which we saw in the appalling shoot down of MH17.”

There is no proof whatever that Russia was involved in any way in destruction of MH-17. The results of the inquiry are being kept secret by the western countries involved in examining the circumstances. The final report by the investigating nations (including Ukraine but excluding Russia and, bizarrely, Malaysia, the owner of the aircraft) has not been completed, yet the president of the United States — without a shred of evidence to justify his statement — declared that the shooting down of the aircraft was due to Russia’s “aggression.”

But aggression has for a long time been the trademark of western dealings with Russia.

At the G-20 jamboree the Australian government set the scene for a series of insults directed at President Putin by Britain, Canada and America. On arrival in the country he was met by the assistant defense minister, the governor of the state of Queensland, and the secretary to the Governor General (who is head of state in Australia; the Queen’s representative). To say that this was the ‘C’ Team is to understate matters. It was appalling rudeness to an important visiting head of state to be met by a trio of such officials. It was a planned, calculated and deliberate affront to Russia, its president and its people.

The Chinese President, Xi Jinping, America’s Barack Obama and President Joko Widodo of Indonesia were met by the Governor General, His Excellency Sir Peter Cosgrove, as is the customary courtesy to visiting heads of state. But Mr Putin and his country were purposefully insulted by Sir Peter’s absence at the airport. So, too, was President Hollande of France who was met by the Queensland Health Minister John-Paul Langbroek, an even further dive down the protocol chain. The government of Australia excelled itself in making it abundantly clear who it regards with disdain. This will not be forgotten by those who were insulted.

It should be pointed out that the Governor General is required, constitutionally, to accept the “advice” of the government as to his actions in foreign affairs. Sir Peter, a most civilized person, would not himself have acted in such a crass and juvenile fashion.

The playground immaturity was continued by Britain’s prime minister David Cameron who considered it a great joke to say “I didn’t feel it necessary to bring a warship myself to keep myself safe at this G20.” He was referring to the fact that at the time of Mr Putin’s visit there were two Russian warships and two support vessels in international waters near Australia. The Australian defense department displayed more maturity by stating simply that “the movement of these vessels is entirely consistent with provisions under international law for military vessels to exercise freedom of navigation in international waters,” and the Australian destroyer Parramatta conducted a communications exercise with Russia’s cruiser Varyag, as is the courteous custom of the sea. But Mr Cameron though it terribly witty to poke childish fun at Mr Putin by referring to Russia’s ships in the region.

What is indeed hilarious is the fact that Mr Cameron’s Britain has itself so few ships. He and his predecessors have all but destroyed the Royal Navy, which has no aircraft carriers, no combat aircraft, and only a few other warships — ten submarines, six destroyers and a dozen frigates. (I remember with pride but sorrow when the Royal Navy had two aircraft carriers, a cruiser, a destroyer squadron, a frigate squadron, four submarines and over twenty other vessels in Asian waters alone.) It would have been impossible for Mr Cameron “to bring a warship” because Britain hasn’t got one to send.

In addition to insulting President Putin the G-20 gathering achieved nothing for the world that is in any way binding on those who attended. Although it was a farce of photo-ops and flatulent pomposity it succeeded in showing the level of hatred and contempt for Russia that is so evident in the governments of the United States and some of its allies.

The western media’s cover of Russian affairs is verging on what it was in the Sixties, when hysteria reigned about the Soviet Union. Many of us thought that the West — the US-led NATO grouping — would relax its pressure on Russia after the welcome collapse of the Soviet Union, but this was over-optimistic.

On May 27, 1997 it was agreed that “The North Atlantic Treaty Organization and its member States, on the one hand, and the Russian Federation, on the other hand” would refrain “from the threat or use of force against each other.”

Russia has not made any “threat or use of force” against any NATO nation. It would be crazy to even hint at doing so because Russia wants peace and trade, especially with the Baltic states and Poland, which are major trading partners. (As well as being, in the case of Lithuania and Poland, recent hosts to US CIA black site prisons in which victims were tortured by psychotic sadists.)

It is obvious that if Russia wanted to take over Ukraine it could have done so months ago without a problem. The military forces of Ukraine are incompetent, and the Russians could have invaded and conquered Ukraine in about three weeks if they had wanted to. But they didn’t and don’t want to do that. Russia doesn’t want to squander billons of dollars on a pointless war, such as those of America on Iraq or in Afghanistan.

All that Moscow wants to do is to ensure justice and freedom for the Russian-speaking, Russian-cultured, pro-Russian inhabitants of the eastern regions of Ukraine — just as it did for the inhabitants of Crimea, who voted to accede to Russia.

The 1997 pact between NATO and Russia includes agreement that NATO will perform its mission without “additional permanent stationing of substantial combat forces.” But in spite of this the US Land Commander Europe, General Frederick Hodges, said on November 23 at a press conference in Lithuania that “The US will keep troops in Poland and the Baltic states for at least the next year.” According to the general this will not contravene the pact because “We have planned rotations out through next year. Units are designated that will continue to do this. There are going to be US army forces here in Lithuania, as well as Estonia and Latvia and Poland for as long as is required to deter Russian aggression and to assure our allies.”

In some weird fashion, if the US keeps the same number of different troops menacing Russia there is no “permanent stationing.” How very clever.

The US House of Representatives and the US-led NATO alliance are being aggressive and confrontational. But it is our lives and the future of our world they are playing with. Their belligerence would be understandable if Russia was in any way threatening the Baltic States and Poland. But there isn’t any such threat. There is, however, a threat from western trigger-happy dummies who are spoiling for war.

Brian Cloughley lives in France.
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