Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

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Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

Postby guruilla » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:58 pm

tapitsbo » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:33 pm wrote:As pervasive as MK-ULTRA is, the vanishingly small number of key players is mind-blogging. Clearly many who have very close proximity to this stuff have no idea about it at all - a symptom of its intended purpose.

Yet at the same time, there is a very broad cultural knowing that this is going on. I think many, many people are willing to acknowledge it in a casual, nervous way

As Hollywood empowerment fantasy? (Which I tried to watch recently, was dumb beyond belief)
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Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

Postby tapitsbo » Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:01 pm

I was thinking more on the level of mostly-unacknowledged intuition sometimes manifesting as paranoia

When you scratch the surface a lot people have victims of this stuff in their life, and they have often heard scraps of testimony

then there are the broader disclosures in Belgium, the UK, etc.

It's true that few try to fit the jigsaw pieces together like Jeff Wells or you or others
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Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

Postby guruilla » Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:04 pm

Brainwash p- 230-1. What a scumbag.

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Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

Postby guruilla » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:50 pm

I just read this in Fabian Freeway:

“Whether Shaw was ever personally acquainted with Karl Marx is not recorded. He could hardly have failed to see the ponderous Prussian in the reading room of the British Museum, where Marx was a fixture for nearly thirty years. Before and after joining the Fabians, Shaw, too, frequented the British Museum almost daily. There he read the first volume of Das Kapital in French and was vastly impressed by it; and there he became friendly with Marx’s daughter Eleanor, a dark, rather striking young Socialist, working as a copyist in the reading room for eighteen pence a day. It is hard to see how he could have avoided meeting her father—the more so because, throughout his long career, Shaw never displayed the least reticence about introducing himself to anyone he wished to know.

Failure to mention meeting or even seeing a man whose work had impressed him so profoundly is a significant omission, especially on the part of a notorious name-dropper like Shawl He refers casually to having once met Frederick Engels, Marx’s alter ego who remained in London to edit the posthumous portions of Das Kapital until his own death in 1892.

The possibility has been raised—and remains an interesting subject for speculation—that George Bernard Shaw, the self-styled mountebank with his Mephistophelian eyebrows and carefully cultivated air of diabolism, who in his later writings equated Jesus and Lenin, as spiritual leaders,(2) was commissioned by the fathers of Marxian Socialists to help found a select company for the propagation and defense of their Socialist views. Early in the game, Shaw confided to the German Socialist, Eduard Bernstein, that he wanted the Fabians to be “the Jesuits of Socialism.”(3)

Any serious consideration of Fabian Socialism must allow for the very real possibility that Communists early saw their opportunity to introduce Communism into America through the Anglo-Saxon tradition: enter at stage Left, the Fabian Society!”


Perhaps not a coincidence then that the FS was founded the same year Marx died (in London)?

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Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

Postby guruilla » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:27 pm

Via Lloyd de Mause again:

In working-class families, where seduction was less secretive, the sexual abuse of girls by their fathers and brothers was so widely acknowledged that they often joked about their babies being products of incestuous intercourse.39

39. Beatrice Webb, My Apprenticeship. London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1926, p. 321; Anthony S. Wohl, “Sex and the Single Room: Incest Among the Victorian Working Classes, ” in Anthony S. Wohl, Ed., The Victorian Family: Structure and Stresses. London: Croom Helm, 1978.
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Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

Postby semper occultus » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:34 am

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https://infrakshun.wordpress.com/2014/0 ... ructuring/

...from a longer series of posts....

Part III: Psycho-Sexual Subversion: Chapters 32 – 61

https://infrakshun.wordpress.com/an-introduction-to-this-blog/

There will be special attention paid to the statistics, psychology, history and current status in society of paedophilia (male and female) and child molesters as well as so-called “paedophile apologists” in some sectors of academia. Homosexuality, feminism and gender stereotyping are studied as reflected through pathological dictates and how sexual behaviour and gender norms have been distorted and used as social engineering tools.

Sexual abuse in suburbia in the UK and the US is reviewed prior to studying the legacy of Alfred Kinsey and his “Sexual Revolution,” which in turn, gave rise to the “Sex Establishment” and the mainstreaming of sexual pathology and perversion.

A brief look at media reporting of child rape networks with figureheads such as Jerry Sandusky and Jimmy Savile are briefly covered.

The influence of Freud and psychoanalysis is briefly placed under the microscope and its contribution to the camouflaging of psychopathic dynamics in society.

The dogma of anti-sexuality and overt sexualisation of the younger generation and the relationship to eroticism and civil rights is reviewed from the American and British perspective. The New Evangelism of the “War on Terror” and the erosion of civil liberties have leeched over into a new criminalisation of sexual behaviour on the one hand and an underlying promotion of sexual pathology on the other.

We will then turn to the technique of scapegoating the public to create “moral panics” in order to maintain and protect criminal deviant networks at the Elite level. This is followed up with a study of organised paedophilia networks and intra-familial ritual sexual abuse in a suburban context and in law.

The corruption of the British and US justice system and family courts will be studied from the female and male perspective, with case studies of each.

An exploration of gender bias against fathers in custody battles will be looked at as well as the relationship of gender stereotypes and myths which serve to support the presence of female and male psychopaths in the law courts.

Domestic abuse and child murders will also be reviewed. Statistical analysis will be supplied on the nature of gender bias and the roots of radical feminism and its present day influences.

Finally in this section, a study of online child pornography and paedophilia networks in Europe along with an analysis of the scapegoating and false accusations directed at the public mentioned previously. I will also pay special attention to joint European and US operations that targeted individuals and paedophile rings using highly controversial methods of entrapment. Questions are asked about the nature of such operations, (Do they create paedophiles?) their connection to civil liberties, censorship and intelligence objectives in both the US and the UK.

Causes of the rise in child pornography in society and the government’s role in stemming or encouraging its presence is questioned. The internet culture of helping police track down paedophiles is also explored as is the nature of surveillance and privacy issues.

We finish this section with a look at False Memory syndrome and the devaluing of abuse testimony.
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Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

Postby guruilla » Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:33 pm

Score! Thanks, semper.
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Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

Postby lunarmoth » Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:39 pm

Appreciate this thread -- ! Makes me feel like responding. I sense haha intuit your book will do well, guruilla. Hadn't heard of Steathfield and his stonewall responses don't make me feel like reading his book, at all.

Are you aware of Warrendale? Did we talk about that already? I am in touch with a survivor of that 'experimental youth care home' -- more than one, in fact, including its main poster child. Everything about it suggests to me it was an MKULTRA project operating in plain sight, receiving plenty of publicity during its operation, with tentacles extending in several directions across North America. Never exposed. It even bred a literary culture that wove itself into Toronto-centric Canadian nationalism, and included quite a few un-outed pedophiles. But I'm terrible to even suggest such a thing. London ON was a centre and still is, imho.

Since I've only just landed here, I need to catch up. But just thought I'd add a link to my blog on Warrendale. http://lunamoth1.blogspot.ca/2013/11/wa ... sited.html

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Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

Postby guruilla » Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:06 pm

No, I wasn't aware of Warrendale, but you did point me towards Summerhill, where deMornay as a child met Cohen, supposedly.

I had not heard the phrase "Free School" before AD mentioned it, but here's a description: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_school_(England) Nor had I heard of Summerhill, but it turns out it was one of the two or three main prototypes for this (Fabian) schooling model, along with my own Abbotsholme. (See this French book for example: http://www.worldcat.org/title/mouvement ... /716096761)


Warrendale is a 1967 documentary film by Canadian filmmaker Allan King. It was originally produced for broadcast on CBC Television, but was never shown due to King's refusal to edit out the copious profanity in the footage.

The film is a cinéma vérité look at the lives of emotionally disturbed children housed in a facility named Warrendale, in Rexdale, at the time, a Toronto suburb. The facility was considered innovative, and met with approval when it first opened in December 1965. But almost a year after it opened, it became the centre of several controversies in the Legislative Assembly of Ontario, and was eventually closed.[1]

Warrendale won awards at the Cannes Film Festival, and French director Jean Renoir declared King a great artist.

In 2002, Warrendale was honoured as a "MasterWork" by the Audio-Visual Preservation Trust of Canada.[2]


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Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

Postby lunarmoth » Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:09 pm

Jian Gomeshi called Warrendale "The best Canadian documentary of all time" in his CBC listing of best Canadian documentaries. Try watching it, I dare you. It will both shock you and lull you into a coma. What it actually documents is systematic child abuse. Another odd fact: it was shot backwards. It appears to climax with the death of the beloved cook Dorothy, but in fact her death occurred early on in the filming and probably was the cause of much of the traumatic acting out we see in the edited version.

I would venture to call that 'Satanic inversion." Anyway, I posted the wrong link above. My first Warrendale blog was this one: http://lunamoth1.blogspot.ca/2011/06/my ... scher.html

Whether it has anything to do with Fabianism, is an open question. I think there are probably links -- but Canada is not the UK. One of Warrendale's founders was John Seeley, a British ex-pat and likely Fabian pedophile. Well, he made no secret of his pedophilia, but I don't know if he ever admitted to being a Fabian although he was definitely a man of the Left ... hand

re: DeMornay and Cohen and Summerhill: it's in Sylvie Simmons' I'M YOUR MAN, the De Mornay interview. Summerhill and Warrendale were worlds apart, however. Warrendale was a home for abandoned children, orphans, schizophrenic kids, and also very likely a trauma experiment posing as an enlightened community. The writers of its director, John Brown, are pseudo-Marxist rants about the need to destroy the family and liberate children.

(I think I've said too much). This material is from the book I was going to hole up in PG to write, except I came to Greece instead. :angelwings:
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Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

Postby lunarmoth » Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:42 pm

What, if any, is the connection between Fabianism and the Mental Hygiene movement? I'm asking because the MHM came up when I was reading about eugenics in North America, and its connections to, ahem, Nazi Germany. Mental Hygiene was very much an Anglo-American movement that seemed to incorporate some Puritan ideals -- it didn't catch on as well in the non-English-speaking world. It also spilled over into not-so-nice areas like sterilization of the mentally handicapped and minorities.

http://www.faqs.org/childhood/Me-Pa/Mental-Hygiene.html
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Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

Postby guruilla » Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:58 pm

There is apparently, definitely, an overlap between social-sexual experimentation on children (MKULTRA etc) and the roots of mental diagnoses, period, which I address in the last blog post, with all the stuff about "feeble-minded" children (many of whom would probably be diagnosed as autistic today).

A large part of it, maybe the central thrust, is scapegoating, as evidenced by how the language conflates mental illness with criminality, or at least as a social blight to be eradicated.

Engineering controllable psychosis on the one hand, while stigmatizing all uncontrollable psychological differences on the other.
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Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

Postby lunarmoth » Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:01 pm

It's been said that mental hospitals are build by the wealthy classes to house their sexually abused children.
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Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

Postby Cordelia » Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:40 pm

1997 Scanda scandal:

"THE dictionary definition of the word ''eugenics'' conjures up an image of Hitler's search for the master race: ''the science of the production of fine offspring by control of inherited qualities.'' This manipulation of the population was the nightmare of Nazi Germany, perpetrated by the Fuhrer's mad henchmen.

Only now we find it was not confined to the Third Reich: that in Sweden, Denmark and Norway between the mid 1920s and the mid 1970s, more than 100,000 people, 90% of them women, were sterilised because their race, lifestyle or mental capacities were deemed undesirable. It was a trend led by left-wingers which is now described by Margot Wallstrom, the Swedish Minister for Social Policy, as ''barbaric and a national disgrace.'' Now historians and legal experts say the theory of eugenics has been no stranger to British shores."

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/1229 ... e_species/

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Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

Postby tapitsbo » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:01 pm

Maybe angry constituencies in a Sweden of the near future will attempt to sterilize the extant supporters of the current regime...
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