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Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:27 pm
by identity
Thought this might be a suitable place to put some paragraphs on the Process from Robert Irwin's Memoirs of a Dervish:

Now that I was in London, investigating secretive spiritual and occult groups became my hobby. (I think that, as much as anything else, I needed to have an interesting enough life to write about in my diary. I blame my diary.) That summer I made several visits to the headquarters of the Process at 2 Balfour Place in Mayfair. The Beatles record Revolver was playing over and over again in the all-night coffee bar known as Satan’s Cave. Adherents of the cult in long black capes and wearing silver crosses drifted in and out. They had an air of certainty and superiority. It was an interesting place to get a cheap light dinner. The speciality was corn-on-the-cob. But one evening I took a friend, Chris Brockway, there and after we had finished our corn-on-the-cob a black-robed attractive blonde waitress came to our table. ‘Would you like some cake? Are you sure you won’t have some cake?’ This seemingly neutral proposition from the waitress seemed to Chris to have a triple tier of reference. On the one hand, she might just have been persuading him to have some cake. On the other hand, this might have been a way of getting to know her, a sexual thing then. (Chris was very good-looking.) But perhaps not everything was at it seemed and it might be that this agent of Process was manoeuvring him to accept a bit of cake as the preliminary to luring him into the nefarious toils of the Process. Chris refused the cake, mostly because of the third consideration, but also because I was not having cake. I hate cake, but I did want to see if he would accept a slice of cake as the first stage of getting on with the girl. What fun we had in those days.

Though the men had long hair and beards, these were trimmed and groomed. The cult, headed by Robert and Mary DeGrimston, attracted smart young professionals. Adherents had to dedicate themselves to one of three ways, that of Jehovah, Lucifer or Satan. But the big thing was not to be identified with the ‘Grey Force’ of ‘hypocritical compromise and respectable conformity’. They also had to hand over their wages, all but one pound a week, to the Process. They claimed that it was as if they were on a permanent LSD trip. From talking with them, I gathered that they, like the Scientologists, from whom they had broken away, were trying to break down people’s psychological defence mechanisms and then use the consequent excess energy to develop telepathy and other psychic powers. They did psychic exercises such as gazing into people’s eyes for prolonged periods of time. Or they would pair off with another person to spend five minutes attacking that person, followed by five minutes of compliments. This sort of thing anticipated the imminent arrival of encounter groups. I took part in a session of the Telepathy Developing Circle which lasted an hour and twenty minutes, during which we sat on the floor in a candlelit room. We were supposed to develop psychic powers through brief spells of meditation.

Later, I attended a black mass there ‘based on the performance of the Beast’, meaning the performance of Aleister Crowley. A lot of Crowley’s terrible poetry was read out early on. We sat around the stairwell looking down on what was enacted below. The main part of the ritual was like something out of the film version of Dennis Wheat-ley’s The Devil Rides Out and it was aesthetically rather pleasing, as it featured black and gold robes, a dark vessel containing a mysterious black potion, a silver mirror, black candles and The Book of the Law. The robed celebrants were the Deacon, the Priest, the Virgin Priestess and two long-haired acolytes. The Priestess wore white, the men black. The high point was when the Priestess was stripped down to her underwear and made to lie spread-eagled on the altar, where she was kissed all over by the Priest. There were no dark manifestations and I heard someone mutter that the Priestess was not really a virgin. It was not Satanism, but merely theatre. It was about this time that Peter Fuller went back to visit our old school. ‘How are the Irwin brothers?’ our former housemaster (‘the Gnome’) enquired. ‘Irwin major has become a practising Satanist and Irwin minor is a frog in a pantomime’ was the reply. ‘oh.’

Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 7:04 pm
by Searcher08
Thank you for that - the book looks rivetting!

Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:29 pm
by identity
I have posted what are, really, a couple of the more colourful passages from the book. Most of it is taken up with recollections (aided by diaries he kept) of his visits to a Sufi school in Algeria while still a very young man, and further involvement with this when back in England. However:

In retrospect, I am surprised that Juliet had stuck with me for as long as she did. I was so full of third-rate, amateur metaphysics and poorly understood mysticism. I was boringly intense, hideously needy and apparently without any idea of what I was going to do with my life, never mind what would have been our hypothetical life together. Meanwhile, there were plenty of more mature men with jobs, money and a sane outlook on life out there. What to do? I thought a lot about suicide. I had read so much Dostoevsky that I was well up on suicide. I brooded in my room surrounded by drug manuals, LPs out of their sleeves, unanswered correspondence, guttered candles, empty shema tins and unwashed coffee cups. The curtains were closed as I clawed back obsessively over the past. I replayed Donovan’s music and now I heard that its promises of sunshine, prettiness and lace were all false. In my mind he had become a sinister Pied Piper leading the flower children on to destruction.

He's not a bad writer, but I just don't think he had enough interesting biographical material to work with to produce a vastly entertaining memoir that one might want to dip into now and then at random after the first read, or even read cover-to-cover several times for pure pleasure.

Of interest to some RIntuitives may be the following passage:

I had registered to do research in Middle Eastern history at London University’s School of Oriental and African Studies in Bloomsbury. It was a crowded, scruffy place. It is much larger now, but still crowded and scruffy. Bernard Lewis was my designated thesis supervisor. Although he was already quite well known as a spokesman for Israel and Zionism, he had yet to become the counsellor of the Neo-Cons in the United States and to popularise the expression ‘clash of civilisations’. His advocacy of the pre-emptive bombing of Iranian nuclear installations was some way in the future. But I had no idea how grand this man already was. He was yet another in a long sequence of teachers. Like Zaehner, he had been a spy during the war, but he never talked about it.

Since he was an eloquent, witty and lucid speaker, the lecture room was usually full with students from all over London when he spoke. He was a literary stylist and he produced sensitive and passionate translations of poems from Arabic, Turkish, Persian and Hebrew. A collection of these translations, Music of a Distant Drum, is arguably his best and most revealing book, though in those days his best-known works were The Arabs in History and The Origins of Modern Turkey. He had mastered Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic, Latin, Greek, Persian and Turkish, as well as, of course, French, German and Italian, and, I think, Russian. Later, a former colleague of his told me that Lewis said that he had acquired a reading knowledge of Arabic, Persian and Turkish in two terms and he found it difficult to understand how anyone could spend a year studying just one language and still not be fluent in it. He certainly found my slowness in getting to grips with medieval Arabic incomprehensible. But, eventually, he agreed that my proposed M.Phil. could be upgraded to be registered for a Ph.D. Its title was something like ‘The Mamluk Reconquista: The Muslim Reconquest of the Crusader States in the Late Thirteenth Century’. Since neither he nor I had much interest in talking about this, most of the supervisions were spent discussing Marxism, Freudianism, Jungianism and the Cold War. Lewis would reminisce about the year he spent as a research student of the mystical Orientalist Louis Massignon, as well as his attempts at Orientalist conferences to lure Russian academics away from their minders.

Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:27 pm
by guruilla
Back to this thread, working on a piece that includes and contextualizes the discoveries made here, as preparation for diving in again. Or I guess I already did.

First up some background on Wilfred Trotter of Tavistock who inspired Wilfred Bion and Norman Glaister (also Tavistock), of Braziers Park. These screenshots are from Origins and Context of Bion’s Contributions to Theory and Practice, by Robert M. Lipgar, Malcolm Pines, at Google Books, here.





One of Trotter’s primary ideas, besides that of the herd instinct (which Freud rejected), was that of two types of human being, the “resistive” type (making up the majority) and the “unstable” type (the minority who bring about, or at least are open to, change). Glaister later replaced “unstable” for “sensitive,” and later still, “sensory.” This basic psychological premise of a dichotomy within the human species was adopted by The Order of Woodcraft Chivalry, which included a “Sensory Advisory Committee.” Thread-readers may recall that Glaister joined The Order—described by Derek Edgell as “a New Age Alternative to the Boy Scouts”—in 1924.

What I was not aware of until now, at least not fully, was that The Order of Woodcraft Chivalry was directly affiliated with Richard Acland’s party, The Common Wealth, of which my grandfather was a member, and the Common Wealth also incorporated Trotter and Glaister’s philosophy of human dichotomy (resistives and sensitives) in its programs for social reform (and its peculiar emphasis on the “sensory” ). For example:

“In 1948 titles like ‘Freedom and society’ and ‘The problem of social discipline’ were typical, but, as has already been mentioned, for the first time as far as our records suggest, the full panoply of Trotter’s ideas, the gregarious habit and the Resistive /Sensitive concept were covered extensively as if laying down the framework for future development. There is a new sense of confidence, determination and an ambition to make progress from first principles—and to many, much of this would be new. I think 44 people passed through the Summer School during the fortnight. Reference was made to the Resistive/Sensory team to stress the idea that it was the creative balance of the two functions that would improve action. Their main task was to increase the positive and reduce the negative element in all situations, to try to see issues not in dualistic terms but to find a unitary approach.” ... ensory.pdf

The overlap is clearly evident, then, not only between leftist politics and social psychology, but between social psychology and “witchcraft.” Nor does this overlap need to be inferred. Wilfred Bion’s research into group psychology (already quoted in the OP) included what would now be classified as a distinctly “parapsychological” angle:

“Bion’s description of group phenomenology is vivid and is suggestive of what might be called ESP (extrasensory perception) elements. He states that there is such a thing as the psychology of the group but that the origins of this psychology lie solely within the individuals comprising the group, but he also seems to believe that the potential group-relating aspect within the individuals is activated by the group, i.e., the existence of the group evokes what we call ‘group psychology.’ How does this happen? Bion describes how individuals become caught up in different strands of the group process as if they were puppets being controlled and manipulated by an invisible puppeteer. Yet Bion did not believe that the group itself had an independent agency. Agency in the group became prime cause but remained ineffable and inscrutable—as a mysterious, potentiating, synergistic summation and transformation of the combined agencies of the individuals in the group.”
Origins and Context of Bion’s Contributions to Theory and Practice, p. 14.

Returning to the Common Wealth: “In 1941, during World War II, Sir Richard Acland founded a new political party, Common Wealth, which Norman Glaister joined.” The Order of Woodcraft Chivalry had been proposed to affiliate with it, but for whatever reason this did not happen. “Instead, another group had been set up, called ‘Our Struggle,’* in the late 1930’s and it was this group that became part of Common Wealth.” Nonetheless, Common Wealth adopted some of the same organizational/psychological principals and methods as the Order, including the quasi-biological approach to human organization.

(* Interesting to note the correlation with this name and Mein Kampf, meaning My Struggle, esp. in light of how Nazis and Fabians both advocated eugenics.)

“Common Wealth’s first Sensory Committee meeting took place in April 1947. Olaf Stapleton the novelist and John MacMurray were to be invited to join later. The first Common Wealth Sensory Summer School took place only 4 months after that. That Sensory Summer School took place within three years of the founding of Braziers, which occurred as a result of this and two subsequent Summer Schools.”

Olaf Stapleton of course is the famous author of Last and First Men, a science-fiction novel about genetic engineering that has influenced writers as diverse as Arthur C. Clarke, Jorge Luis Borges, J. B. Priestley, Bertrand Russell, Arnold Bennett, and Virginia Woolf (as well as Winston Churchill). Stapleton also happened to go to Abbotsholme School, where myself and my siblings were sent.

Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:58 pm
by guruilla
Recent discoveries:


Online copy

I havent skimmed this yet but the title alone is pretty striking, especially in tandem with this:

Of the Common Wealth, etc., George Orwell wrote: “I think this movement should be watched with attention. It might develop into the new Socialist party we have all been hoping for, or into something very sinister.” Orwell, like Kitty Bowler, believed that Richard Acland had the potential to become a fascist leader.

And then there's a book I just found, partially online, from 1931 and by Bertrand Russell, called The Scientific Outlook.

Here's a sample for starters. I was skimming the preface (by David Papineau) for some indication that it was meant as a warning, a satire, or something. This version was published in 2009 by Routledge, with this about the author: "Bertrand Russell (1872–1970) was one of the most formidable thinkers of the modern era. A philosopher, mathematician, educational innovator, champion of intellectual, social and sexual freedom, and a campaigner for peace and human rights." It has all five-star reviews at Amazon, so apparently it is either being reviewed by some very strange people, or received as a warning, a la Brave New World/1984 text.

That's not how it reads to me.


Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:30 pm
by guruilla
From work-in-progress:

Rock and roll (as well as dandyism) also overlapped with the “back to the roots” Fabian schooling movement (“a mixture of Freud and Red Indians,” remember). An important member of the Braziers Park community, for example, was Glynn Faithfull, who met Glaister through the Order of Woodcraft Chivalry. Faithfull had been an academic at the University of Liverpool, studied the Italian renaissance, and worked for MI6 during World War II. He was married to Baroness Eva Erisso, a former ballerina, and their daughter was the singer and actress Marianne Faithfull. According to Marianne’s second memoir (Memories, Dreams, Reflections, curiously the same title as Jung’s autobiography), Glynn Faithfull was the person called in to interrogate Heinrich Himmler after Himmler surrendered himself to the US government on realizing that the Nazis would be defeated. It was Faithfull who allegedly failed to search Himmler well enough to find a cyanide capsule on his person, thereby allowing Himmler to allegedly take his own life (and be buried in an unmarked grave somewhere). A curious enough little tale, even before noting that this happened during the same period in which, via Operation Paperclip, leading Nazis were being incorporated into the OSS, soon to become the CIA.

Marianne was born the following year, and by her own account she moved to Braziers Park when it first began, in 1950 (she was four), and lived there until she was seven. In her first memoir (Marianne: An Autobiography), she describes recurring nightmares of “frightening entities” who were “just like my father,” strange men with moustaches who would tickle her and pour hot tea over her. “Every year” she writes, “we took deprived children on an annual camping holiday to the New Forest”—there to participate in “quasi-mystical” rituals. (Faithfull: An Autobiography, by Marianne Faithfull, Cooper Square Press, 2000, p. 6-7, see here.)

Faithfull reminisces in Memories, Dreams, Reflections:

“Things were madder, wilder, more eccentric, more randy, in the early years—some of the things that went on there were quite peculiar. . . . They appeared to be studying Dante and the Destiny of Man, but what they were also doing was fucking like rabbits—with what were technically the wrong people. . . . There was sex going on everywhere at Braziers. Not exactly an entirely happy and positive experience for a kid, I guess. . . . The mixture of high utopian thought and randy sex might seem incongruous but it was very much of its time—the 1950s—and an uncanny harbinger of the heady free-love, let’s change the world vibe of the sixties. It was the fifties, the intellectual, Bertrand Russell-ish fifties, when Braziers began and there were all these ideas—grand, world-mending ideas, small groups of people isolating themselves from the big bad world to study Big Ideas, ideas about the Nature of Man, the foundations of civilization, the complexities of communicating ideas. Along with the metaphysical deliberations came experiments in group consciousness. This combo—shagging and Schopenhauer—was as rampant at Braziers as it is in the novels of Iris Murdoch. [My father] was a philosopher of the group mind, almost a technician of group dynamics—how to deal with ego within the group.” (Memories, Dreams, Reflections, by Marianne Faithfull, HarperCollins, 2007, p. 135-6, 141-2.)

Further along, in a chapter titled “The Girl Factory,” Faithfull describes meeting the Italian writer and publisher Roberto Calasso, whom she describes as “an archeologist of myths.” When Faithfull told Calasso about her childhood at Braziers, she recounts, Calasso compared it to a story by the playwright Frank Wedekind, called Mine-Haha. Mine-Haha is about a vast girls’ school located inside a castle, where unwanted females are raised from infancy to the age of sixteen, “a sort of geisha finishing school where they are brought up to please others.” At the age of sixteen, these girls are either placed into show business or prostitution. Faithfull responds to Calasso by insisting, “nobody forced me to go to London and become a pop singer. Tempted me, definitely, seduced me into it, but I wasn’t actually compelled to become a pop singer, whereas the girls in the castle are made to become performers with whips and torture.” Calasso’s response is that he finds it strange how Faithfull “grew up in a similarly cloistered place . . . and at the age of seventeen . . . burst out into the world, trained, in a strange way, for all sorts of things—group politics, sex, books, dance, acting, singing—that were useful to you in your career.” Faithfull agrees that the “group mind concept my father taught at Braziers must have helped me a lot in fitting in. Probably why I fitted in so easily with the Stones.”

“Before the girls are sent out into the world,” Faithfull writes, “they’re examined head to toe, internally, externally, the whole thing. It’s really perverse. Anyway, none of that happened to me, obviously.” Why obviously, I wonder? Faithfull winds up the chapter by mentioning an Italian dance troupe (Gruppo Polline) who created a performance piece based on Mine-Haha, the themes of which were, “The persistence of memory, isolation, the hesitation about the future, alternating static and frenetic, and the negation of the body as a result of an education based on theories and exploitation of the young” (emphasis added). She then adds that she wrote the song “In the Factory” with Polly Harvey, inspired by one of Calasso’s essays. She had wanted to call it “The Girl Factory,” she says, but Harvey talked her out of it. Faithfull regretted the change, but added that Polly was “quite intimidating.” (Memories, Dreams, Reflections; this series of quotes from “The Girl Factory,” p. 218-222.)

Marianne Faithfull met Mick Jagger sometime at the start of her music career in 1964-5, and he wrote her first hit, “As Tears Goes By,” for her (though they didn’t become a couple until 1966). Jagger was just fresh out of the London School of Economics, having got a grant to study there in late 1961 and staying on through to 1963. This two-year period was the same period in which the Stones were first formed and grew into a known act, soon to become “the vanguard of British rock and roll.” Before this Jagger had been working in a psychiatric institution called Bexley Hospital in the summer of 1961, where, by his own account, he learned invaluable lessons about human psychology, as well as losing his virginity to a nurse. (Mick Jagger by Phillip Norman, ebook here.)

According to the official story, Jagger ran into old schoolmate Keith Richards “coincidentally” on a train platform in 1961, on his way to LSE, and the rest is history. There’s a well-known anecdote about how Jagger kept on studying to be an accountant even while the Stones were taking off, just in case it should turn out to be a flash in the pan. What’s considerably less well-known (in fact it’s hard to corroborate, my only source so far is the singer Sally Stevens) is that, besides giving Jagger a grant, LSE also bankrolled the Stones in 1963. Stevens reports a conversation from that year with Derek Bell, Gertrude Stein’s nephew:

“From what I recall of the ensuing conversation, during their first year, students at LSE were allowed to write a grant proposal for project funding from LSE. According to Derek, Mick had written a good grant proposal, using the Rolling Stones as his business model, and asking for financial aid to buy equipment so they could improve their stage sound. Of course, not one member of the Board, including Derek, had much of an idea about the financial soundness of rock music, though obviously it was becoming an economic powerhouse, and they’d sort of heard of the Beatles, but when it came to the niceities[sic] of the business, LSE needed an expert opinion, in this case, me. The Board wanted to know if the Stones had any future, and I was able to say I thought so, based on what I was seeing. Would they be a good risk? ‘Er - yes,’ quoth the expert. So, Mick got some grant money from LSE which he bought gear with, after which he gave LSE the salute, and took off for the sky.” ... omics.html

Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:56 pm
by cptmarginal
Further along, in a chapter titled “The Girl Factory,” Faithfull describes meeting the Italian writer and publisher Roberto Calasso, whom she describes as “an archeologist of myths.”

Just wanted to chime in to say that Calasso's book Ka is one of my favorites. Thanks for quoting the interesting & unexpected anecdote.

Order of Woodcraft Chivalry

Have you ever looked at James Webb's book The Occult Establishment? Chapter 2 talks a lot about the Order of Woodcraft Chivalry and related groups. (Webb's researches have been an inspiration in recent years for authors such as Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke and Gary Lachman that cover some of the same ground.)

Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:04 pm
by guruilla
I'm not sure if I have come across Webb's book or not but I def. have not read it. Thanks for the tip.

I've thought about contacting Lachman, esp. with his past links to the pop culture world, but afraid that he may be one of the dissemblers I have held back.

Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:26 pm
by cptmarginal
Lachman would surely be interested in all of this, but as you've pointed out it's hard to know what he might think. Some highly educated people transform into morons when it comes to "conspiracy theories"

I've just been going through this thread again from page 1 and have realized that your opening post expands quite a bit already on the Order of Woodcraft Chivalry et al.

About to PM you links to PDFs of Webb's out-of-print books, in case they are useful anyway.

Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:55 am
by guruilla
cptmarginal » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:26 pm wrote:Some highly educated people transform into morons when it comes to "conspiracy theories"

Remarkable isn't it.

Like Jeffrey Kripal poo-pooing the Esalen-CIA link.

I less & less believe the "moron" mask.

Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:00 pm
by guruilla

Currently unavailable at amazon

Seems like the whole thing may be available here:

http://progressingamerica.freecapitalis ... -contents/

[Edit: just found it for $0.01 on, yay! :moresarcasm ]

Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:01 pm
by cptmarginal
guruilla » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:55 am wrote:
cptmarginal » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:26 pm wrote:Some highly educated people transform into morons when it comes to "conspiracy theories"

Remarkable isn't it.

Like Jeffrey Kripal poo-pooing the Esalen-CIA link.

I less & less believe the "moron" mask.

Yeah, maybe you are right. I continue to reserve judgement. It was a little unsettling for me last night to read that quote from Kripal's The Serpent's Gift earlier in this thread, as I have very recently read through a library copy of that exact book. Probably didn't pause long enough on that passage about traumatic abuse to really process what he was saying, come to think of it.

Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 1:18 pm
by cptmarginal
One thing I wanted to add:

Transcript: Ron’s Journal ’67 (L. Ron Hubbard)

So long as we are elusive – or Fabian – we grow strong, so I have examined the statistics, and we have grown in numbers to the degree that nobody could quite put a finger on what we were doing. Therefore I have maintained considerable security and shall continue to do so on the activities in which we are engaged, but that does not make them a secret, of course, from Scientologists. ... 09.html#40

Hubbard asserted that the Sea Org is "fabian", and redefined that word to mean "using stratagem and delay to wear out an opponent" (JCA-84). Hubbard wanted the Sea Org to be seen as "a determined but elusive and sometimes frightening group". He also asserted that the Sea Org has "tough discipline", and that "Only those members who are not used heavily aboard [ship] or on mission seem to go slack."

That's not a redefinition of Fabian strategy, but it does raise some eyebrows in regards to the reasons for Scientology's persistent usage of the word. And make no mistake, though the only actual quote you will find is from that one single source (a rant about intelligence agencies and the Bank of England) the usage of the term "fabian" was likely to have been directly taken from the Fabian Society since Hubbard absolutely was familiar with them. The term is still used and is part of the standard terminology of the Sea Org - as attested to by ex-members and as seen in this screenshot from one of their manuals, found here:


From Wikileaks releases of Scientology materials, here are the passages referencing the Fabian Society:

And one of the difficulties the world is in right this minute is they’ve thrown away the textbook of economics. And there’s a couple of Hungarians, not that there’s anything wrong with Hungarians, but it’s a great oddity that a couple of Hungarians have been for the last decade or two wandering around from government to government being employed by prime ministers, and they give him a whole bunch of squirrel economic technology, and the country goes broke. It’s quite a system. And I’m not joking, actually this has been going on. The last place they stopped was England. A little earlier than that there was fellow name of Lord Keans. [sic] And Lord Keans, he had some, he was part of the Oxford movement I think, and he was part of the Fabian group, and they had peculiar sexual ideas and so forth. They were very strange people. And Lord Keans took the textbook on economics and wrote it backwards or upside down, crossed it with the manufacturer of fire crackers and the burial of dead rats, and began to teach this very broadly so that in the early thirties we begin to find Keansian [sic] economics being practiced very hard and fast and furiously, and by the professors only, at Harvard. And from Harvard it swung out into the remaining American universities, and went out into other universities in the world, a completely untried, ivory tower professorial approach to the field of economics, the central theme of which is create want.

So the organization which is disestablished, suddenly or gradually, yet is still carrying an economic burden. Its economic burden does not decrease, it increases. And that is because the money itself at this stage of the game is inflating. And that’s because there was no establishment officer to hat the President of the United States and give him a few facts of life. Instead of that, he read a book by a pederast named Keanes who, part and parcel of the Fabian society, the honored guest of Stalin and the husband of a Russian ballet dancer, has dominated the political economic scene for decades. They’re just getting wise to him now and starting to throw him out as the primary textbooks of the university. He advocates infinite inflation, the keynote by which he runs is ”create want.” He’s sure going to create it eventually.

Oh, so Keynes was the Russian spy and pederast. No guilty knowledge implied with that accusation, no sir. Rhetorical question: at what point will it be accepted that L. Ron Hubbard's son wasn't lying in his 1983 Penthouse interview?

Penthouse: Did the Labor Party official get any of his young men via Scientology?

Hubbard: Yes. The British were ripe for Scientology.

Note that the "Labour Party official" and purported Russian spy was later identified by some as Tom Driberg.

Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 2:14 pm
by guruilla
One more layer revealed; crazy stuff. Driberg being buddies with Crowley would seem to support that allegation.

The exact connection between economics and sexual research/predation still escapes me but it is very strong, just uncovering the trail from LSE to Tavistock to Islington sex rings now & it boggles the mind.

One weird contradiction is that Co$ was anti-psychiatry, yet the psychiatric establishment (which I just found out goes back to Society of Friends!) is central to the social engineering agenda....

Re: Occult Yorkshire: Family Secrets & Fabian Schools

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:41 pm
by Sounder
Thanks for all this material you are digging up guruilla, good stuff.

One weird contradiction is that Co$ was anti-psychiatry,...

Maybe not so weird if Co$ functions as a poison pill to the anti-cause. Like with Icke and Alex, it's good to have 'truthy' causes being associated with dodgy characters. In a Fabianesque sort of way..