The build-up to war on Russia

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Re: The build-up to war on Russia

Postby Elvis » Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:05 pm

2019 RAND report. Only read a bit of it so far, looks to have clues to policy.

https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html

Extending Russia

Competing from Advantageous Ground


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DOI: https://doi.org/10.7249/RR3063
Document Number: RR-3063-A
Year: 2019
Series: Research Reports

This report examines a range of possible means to extend Russia. As the 2018 National Defense Strategy recognized, the United States is currently locked in a great-power competition with Russia. This report seeks to define areas where the United States can compete to its own advantage. Drawing on quantitative and qualitative data from Western and Russian sources, this report examines Russia's economic, political, and military vulnerabilities and anxieties. It then analyzes potential policy options to exploit them — ideologically, economically, geopolitically, and militarily (including air and space, maritime, land, and multidomain options). After describing each measure, this report assesses the associated benefits, costs, and risks, as well as the likelihood that measure could be successfully implemented and actually extend Russia. Most of the steps covered in this report are in some sense escalatory, and most would likely prompt some Russian counter-escalation. Some of these policies, however, also might prompt adverse reactions from other U.S. adversaries — most notably, China — that could, in turn, stress the United States. Ultimately, this report concludes that the most attractive U.S. policy options to extend Russia — with the greatest benefits, highest likelihood of success, and least risk — are in the economic domain, featuring a combination of boosting U.S. energy production and sanctions, providing the latter are multilateral. In contrast, geopolitical measures to bait Russia into overextending itself and ideological measures to undermine the regime's stability carry significant risks. Finally, many military options — including force posture changes and development of new capabilities — could enhance U.S. deterrence and reassure U.S. allies, but only a few are likely to extend Russia, as Moscow is not seeking parity with the United States in most domains.

Key Findings

Russia's weaknesses lie in the economic domains

- Russia's greatest vulnerability, in any competition with the United States, is its economy, which is comparatively small and highly dependent on energy exports.
- The Russian leadership's greatest anxiety stems from the stability and durability of the regime.

The most promising measures to stress Russia are in the realms of energy production and international pressure

- Continuing to expand U.S. energy production in all forms, including renewables, and encouraging other countries to do the same would maximize pressure on Russia's export receipts and thus on its national and defense budgets. Alone among the many measures looked at in this report, this one comes with the least cost or risk.

- Sanctions can also limit Russia's economic potential. To be effective, however, these need to be multilateral, involving (at a minimum) the European Union, which is Russia's largest customer and greatest source of technology and capital, larger in all these respects than the United States.

Geopolitical measures to bait Russia into overextending itself are likely impractical, or they risk second-order consequences

- Many geopolitical measures would force the United States to operate in areas that are closer to Russia and where it is thus cheaper and easier for Russia than the United States to exert influence.

Ideological measures to undermine the regime's stability carry significant risks of counter escalation

- Many military options — including force posture changes and development of new capabilities — could enhance U.S. deterrence and reassure U.S. allies, but only a few are likely to extend Russia, as Moscow is not seeking parity with the United States in most domains.



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Re: The build-up to war on Russia

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Re: The build-up to war on Russia

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Mar 06, 2022 4:15 am

Mayor of Hamburg Peter Tschentscher (SPD), pictured at a "peace" demo yesterday:

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The hashtag "#KillPutin" is now trending heavily on German Twitter.

Note too that Tschentscher, unlike the plebs, is happily and of course fearlessly mask-free, in complete defiance of "regulations", He is a microbiologist (seriously), and he knows it's all bollocks.
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Re: The build-up to war on Russia

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sun Mar 06, 2022 4:43 pm

Even the BBC's most complacent hacks are starting to sound distinctly hysterical. The author of this ra-ra speech and cartoon history is their New York correspondent, the drawling somnolent veteran Nick Bryant:

Ukraine crisis: The West fights back against Putin the disruptor
BBC, published 12 hours ago

... It is often tempting to look upon Vladimir Putin as the millennium bug in a human and deadly form. ...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60597186


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Re: The build-up to war on Russia

Postby MacCruiskeen » Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:39 am

From Defense One, October 2017:

Threats
In Ukraine, the US Trains an Army in the West to Fight in the East

For more than two years, some 300 American soldiers have been quietly helping train an enormous partner military in western Ukraine.

By Ben Watson
Senior Multimedia Editor
October 5, 2017

For more than two years, the U.S. military’s contingent of 300 or so soldiers have been quietly helping train an enormous allied military in western Ukraine. Meanwhile, Russian-backed separatists appear to be keeping pace some 800 miles to the east, showcasing entire parking lots full of new tanks and artillery just a 15-minute drive from the front lines.

“Every 55 days we have a new battalion come in and we train them,” said U.S. Army National Guard Capt. Kayla Christopher, spokesperson for the Joint Multinational Training Group-Ukraine, at Yavoriv Combat Training Center in western Ukraine. “And at the end of that 55-day period, we’ll do a field training exercise with that battalion.” The U.S. and partnered armies have trained seven battalions in the past roughly two years or so.
[...]
“Our overall goal is essentially to help the Ukrainian military become NATO-interoperable,” Christopher said. “So the more they have an opportunity to work with different countries — not just the U.S., but all their Slavic neighbors, and all the other Western European countries that come” and train or exercise with Ukraine’s military.

That includes Poland, Estonia, Lithuania, Canada, and the U.K. ...

https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2017 ... st/141577/
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Re: The build-up to war on Russia

Postby BenDhyan » Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:39 pm

Putin to invade Russia?
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Re: The build-up to war on Russia

Postby Grizzly » Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:15 am

https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/ukraine-new-al-qaeda/
https://feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/1225430704-unlimited-hangout-multipolar-world-order.mp3
Unlimited Hangout with Whitney Webb: Multipolar World Order with Iain Davis

Whitney is joined by Iain Davis to discuss how the Western-led “rules-based order” and its alternative, the Russia/China-led “Multipolar law-based order”, are two sides of the same coin and are leading the world into an age of technocracy.

Whitney’s article “Ukraine and the New Al Qaeda” for more on the CIA effort to create an insurgency in Ukraine.
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Re: The build-up to war on Russia

Postby Grizzly » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:02 am

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Re: The build-up to war on Russia

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Re: The build-up to war on Russia

Postby liminalOyster » Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:08 pm

Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians
Reuters

Updated 6:27 PM ET, Thu March 10, 2022

Meta Platforms will allow Facebook and Instagram users in some countries to call for violence against Russians and Russian soldiers in the context of the Ukraine invasion, according to internal emails seen by Reuters on Thursday, in a temporary change to its hate speech policy.

The social media company is also temporarily allowing some posts that call for death to Russian President Vladimir Putin or Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko in countries including Russia, Ukraine and Poland, according to a series of internal emails to its content moderators.
These calls for death will be allowed unless they contain other targets or have two indicators of credibility, such as the location or method, one email said, in a recent change to the company's rules on violence and incitement.
"As a result of the Russian invasion of Ukraine we have temporarily made allowances for forms of political expression that would normally violate our rules like violent speech such as 'death to the Russian invaders,'" a Meta (FB) spokesperson told CNN Business. "We still won't allow credible calls for violence against Russian civilians."
Last week, Russia said it was banning Facebook in the country in response to what it said were restrictions of access to Russian media on the platform. Moscow has cracked down on tech companies during its invasion of Ukraine, which it calls a "special operation."
Many major social media platforms have announced new content restrictions around the conflict, including blocking Russian state media RT and Sputnik in Europe, and have demonstrated carve-outs in some of their policies during the war.
Emails also showed that Meta would allow praise of the right-wing Azov battalion, which is normally prohibited, in a change first reported by The Intercept.
Meta spokesman Joe Osborne previously said the company was "for the time being, making a narrow exception for praise of the Azov Regiment strictly in the context of defending Ukraine, or in their role as part of the Ukraine National Guard."
- CNN Business' Rishi Iyengar contributed to this report

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Re: The build-up to war on Russia

Postby drstrangelove » Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:21 pm

liminalOyster » Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:08 pm wrote:
Facebook and Instagram to temporarily allow calls for violence against Russians
Reuters

Updated 6:27 PM ET, Thu March 10, 2022

Meta Platforms will allow Facebook and Instagram users in some countries to call for violence against Russians and Russian soldiers in the context of the Ukraine invasion, according to internal emails seen by Reuters on Thursday, in a temporary change to its hate speech policy.

The social media company is also temporarily allowing some posts that call for death to Russian President Vladimir Putin or Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko in countries including Russia, Ukraine and Poland, according to a series of internal emails to its content moderators.
These calls for death will be allowed unless they contain other targets or have two indicators of credibility, such as the location or method, one email said, in a recent change to the company's rules on violence and incitement.
"As a result of the Russian invasion of Ukraine we have temporarily made allowances for forms of political expression that would normally violate our rules like violent speech such as 'death to the Russian invaders,'" a Meta (FB) spokesperson told CNN Business. "We still won't allow credible calls for violence against Russian civilians."
Last week, Russia said it was banning Facebook in the country in response to what it said were restrictions of access to Russian media on the platform. Moscow has cracked down on tech companies during its invasion of Ukraine, which it calls a "special operation."
Many major social media platforms have announced new content restrictions around the conflict, including blocking Russian state media RT and Sputnik in Europe, and have demonstrated carve-outs in some of their policies during the war.
Emails also showed that Meta would allow praise of the right-wing Azov battalion, which is normally prohibited, in a change first reported by The Intercept.
Meta spokesman Joe Osborne previously said the company was "for the time being, making a narrow exception for praise of the Azov Regiment strictly in the context of defending Ukraine, or in their role as part of the Ukraine National Guard."
- CNN Business' Rishi Iyengar contributed to this report

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/uk ... index.html

I was just about to post this.

Thought 1: Hate speech used against me is literally violence.
Thought 2: I use hate speech as a ventilation mechanism to express extreme emotions triggered within me in a non-violent way.

Why pick one, when you can pick both!

The problem is ideology. It allows for double think through contextual justification for actions. Think Trudeau justifying intolerance for those he views as intolerant. For instance, to approach this issue from a general outlook, or philosophy so to speak, you would either argue hate speech should be allowed or banned through a consistent definition of its constitution. Or the matter could be complicated by proposing it can be justified depending on the situation, opening it up to ideological interpretation.

It's interesting to see how technocrats address this issue. Facebook has decided it can be justified in a wartime information environment, but only for the good guys(defending force), not the bad guys(invading force). Then they have geographically defined which areas pertain to this environment. Now, this would matter more if what peoples posted on facebook mattered. But it doesn't, so the reality of this is rather inconsequential. V interesting though.
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Re: The build-up to war on Russia

Postby Grizzly » Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:03 pm



I don't always agree with Galloway, but damn, I can't help but admire and respect his verve ...


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Re: The build-up to war on Russia

Postby MacCruiskeen » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:02 am

It's a war on all humanity.

Biden will seek to end normal trade relations between U.S. and Russia
The president’s announcement, expected Friday, would make it much easier for the White House to impose tariffs on Russian imports

By Tony Romm
Today at 10:51 p.m. EST

[...] The United States is set to announce the move in tandem with the G-7 and the European Union, according to a person familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the still-unannounced plans. ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-polic ... gn=wp_main
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Re: The build-up to war on Russia

Postby drstrangelove » Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:40 pm

Borrell admits mistake to have promised Ukraine NATO membership
PARIS, March 11. /TASS/. The West made a mistake by promising Ukraine NATO membership, High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Josep Borrell said in an interview with LCI TV channel.

"There are moments in which we could have reacted better. For example, we proposed things that we could not guarantee, in particular Ukraine's accession to NATO. This was never realized. I think it was a mistake to make promises that we could not fulfill," he said.

- https://tass.com/world/1420623
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Re: The build-up to war on Russia

Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:37 pm

Patrick@Dr_Sportello 11. März
2019 RAND paper on options for bleeding Russia: sanctions; '[p]roviding lethal aid to Ukraine [which] would exploit Russia’s greatest point of external vulnerability'; and placing weapons systems in striking range to raise 'Russian anxieties.'

Overextending and Unbalancing Russia
Assessing the Impact of Cost-Imposing Options

https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_brie ... JVjE4KCbdQ

https://twitter.com/Dr_Sportello/status ... 2766040073


Read the whole thing. If there's a better word for this than "evil", do say what it is.
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