Aphex Twin: 'If you believe the official 9/11 story'

[vondardanelle]

that interview is wonderful, that article is not.

i feel like richard d james is kind of like stevie wonder or sam cooke or john coltrane-- music just lives in this guy. how do you make 8 minutes of essentially one or two notes so emotive? i have no idea but i'm so happy he's releasing music again

[RocketMan]

The videos for his songs by Chris Cunningham are also fucking terrifying. Among the most terrifying imagery I've ever seen, actually.





As for Aphex Twin and 9/11... Good on him. We need more David Lynches (that's a ridiculous plural, that one) and Aphex Twinses (heehee) and less Charlie Sheens and Heidi Montags.

[jlaw172364]

Lol.

"Sovereign citizen" theory is "BS?"

Where it goes wrong is the assumption that the professional master bullshitters in the court system and in the government will take it as anything other than a threat to be quashed.

But the general idea isn't bullshit at all: that the so-called "law" and "government" imposed on us rest on a massive pile of fraud.

People are indoctrinated to believe that the government represents the "will or consent of the people," but which people are we talking about here?

In actuality, a bunch of wealthy and powerful people get together and organize a government, then put together a dog and pony show to allow people the opportunity to ratify it with a vote, mainly so they can gauge how effectively their control system is working. Hint: if 100% show up to the polls, it's working well.

But half the country doesn't vote, and the vote will be split 2 or even 3 ways, meaning that the elected official at most will have the ratification of 25% of the voting population.

And then there is all the vote-rigging that goes on, gerrymandering / redistricting, money-rigging the choices so no matter who you choose you pick the monied elite's candidate.

And in England you have friggin' aristocrats running the country but then robotically claiming they're just figureheads.

[IanEye]

Lol.

But half the country doesn't vote, and the vote will be split 2 or even 3 ways, meaning that the elected official at most will have the ratification of 25% of the voting population.

also this.


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[IanEye]

[SonicG]

Lol.

"Sovereign citizen" theory is "BS?"

Where it goes wrong is the assumption that the professional master bullshitters in the court system and in the government will take it as anything other than a threat to be quashed.

But the general idea isn't bullshit at all: that the so-called "law" and "government" imposed on us rest on a massive pile of fraud.

Oh yeah, totally agree with the massive pile of fraud...I just thought it was common knowledge that the "Sovereign Citizen movement" (sic?) consists mostly of scammers and scammed with arcane word soups that try to make people believe they can not pay taxes or do whatever, and get away with it by citing some obscure UCC law...or that a court with a fringed US flag is not valid...I watched some of it unfold real time a few years back when they crossed over into the Birther movement a few years back...BUT, that's not the point of this thread so sorry for the misdirect. I was just surprised that it had crossed over into England.

[IanEye]

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dave: i used to have a synton syntovox 221 vocoder, but I flogged it to speedy j in the 90's, and I wish I still had it. I got it & bunch of other klob as payment for some secret crypto work when I was at bt research labs, which I can't go into detail on coz I signed the official secrets act in 1981 when I started as an apprentice. can u tell me a bit about how u used your pair of em? (I rem when u wrote to me telling me u had 2, and u could go realtime syntovox stereo!

rich: exactly, +an excuse to buy another, they are slightly different as well.
Apart from the patch ability which is so nice on it with pins [like ems5000] it has the computer interface, which always intrigued me, if synton did anything with that or anyone else, or you?

dave: well not at home, but we had some interesting stuff at the labs there on martlesham heath to interface to all the speech recognition / synthesis klob. but i can;t really talk bout the cloak & dagger stuff except to say tht its now been officially declassified in 2003 about MI5, MI6, GCHQ et al at least being on site. see this link & search for martlesham :

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4464.htm

MI6 Telephone intercepts were for some time handled at the London Station or VBR, by a group of specialists and linguists known as UKZ and operating with a team of specially cleared BT engineers known as the OND. Metropolitan Police Interception and Special Services Centre was situated at 113 Grove Park, Camberwell, London SE5 and served as a joint MI5/MI6/MPSB/C7/GC & CS unit. This had been in operation as 'Grove Park' since around 1919 and was still a covert listening site well into the 1980's. Some operations were transferred to Sandridge near St Albans in the late 1930's and that base was taken over by GCHQ in 1946. A fleet of detector vans was based there throughout the 1950's and 1960's. By 1970's had reverted to Home Office control and had became a Surveillance Research centre developing equipment for Gove Park and other users.

The secret R12 Department at the Martlesham Heath Telecommunications Complex near Ipswich is a major R & D source of surveillance technology and works closely with GCHQ/MI5/MI6/NCIS, while similar work was also carried out at the JSERL-Joint Services Electronics Research Laboratory at Baldock in Hertfordshire(former wartime GPO DF Station along with Burnham), where bugging equipment for use in Ulster and by both MI5 and MI6 was developed. MI5 interceptions are made via the BTID facilities on the 25th and 26th Floors of the Euston Tower and fed to the Transciption Unit at Thames House via a secure digital line. Since 1995 the transcribers have used the 'Marshbrook' computer system and updated versions which transcribe, analyse, log and file all interception communications. 2003 - Current Hi-Tech System controlled from the BT National Network Central Operations Unit, National Special HQ, Broggyntyn Hall, Oswestry, Shropshire, for many years the National Emergency Network Control Centre. (Microwave Network Link at ALBRIGHTON).

BT Worldwide Network Management Centre at Oswestry, Shropshire, was opened on 5 September 1990 at a cost of £4 million. The Centre monitored all of BT's System X exchanges (57 trunk and 373 local exchanges) and the company's three digital internal exchanges. Has overall control of interception of international calls. The new National Network Control Centre officially opened on September 12, 2002.The video wall measures 16.32m by 3.06m made up of 36 monitors. The giant screen is the same as used in modern digital cinemas with more than 800,000 individual mirrors behind the screen, a solid-state system that ensure razor sharp images. The control centre was developed for BT by CCC Network Systems using FreeVision technology: the wallboard was supplied by Synelec. The £10 million state-of-the-art building at Oswestry in Shropshire, gives engineers a helicopter view of the state of health of the UK's communications networks. They can view telephone call, data and broadband traffic at a glance, responding to incidents world-wide which could impact on quality of service not only to BT's customers but also to other UK operators and service providers and helps HMG and the Intelligence Community have both oversight and eventual control of the entire network. Has overall control of the interception of national calls.

Britain’s telephone network, System X, was designed with wiretapping capabilities built in and indeed all the digital exchanges built since the mid 1990’s have an intercept capability under the aegis of the European Telecommunications Standards Institute.

there's also a tv program that itv made called 'the buggist' which got a bit bout the bt labs MI5 et al connections :

http://www.itnsource.com/shotlist//ITVProgs/1989/04/04/Y05870075/?s=intv

aint seen the program, but they won;t b tellin me anything new anyway i'm not endorsing those sites, but they do note the presence of MI5 et al at BT Labs as it was then... anyway, it is weird to think that there's this whole area of electronic sound/noise research that never gets published or patented and all happens in mysterious little rooms, wicked & wonderful sounds that would make u freak! all these nutty top secret processes & obscure methods, exciting stuff but also bit weird coz i can never talk about it unless they declassify it... which is unlikely. funny tho, theres been a little bit about where vocoders came from in secret speech coding.

rich: bonkatudinal.

dave: e.g. http://boingboing.net/2010/10/06/vocoders.html

rich: wick will dive into dat

dave: my roland system 100m came to me the same way, for doing secret work for em, sort of little bonus, they used to use it for simulating dial tone / test tones in phone testing back in the 80's! nuts...

rich: ha, really funny weird, kind of remem u saying that prob after i necked half a bottle of absinth or summink

dave: yea, have some vague memory of drinking absynth with ya... ! i also think there's prob lot more speech synthesis/recog/vocoder stuff been made by the big "music manufacturers" that gets diverted to more secret uses. so, yea that interface on the back of the synton was specially designed for hooking up to pooter for analysis/resynthesis, its do-able ... cripes, i could talk about this all day, .. anyway u were saying about synton ...

rich: yeah i thought you prob could, ok save it for when i interview you


I mean I suppose the main thing to do there is recording the cv outs from the filters of analysed audio, manipuating the voltages with a seq then chuck in it back at the vocoder, did try this a few times with a doepfer setup, theres definitly plenty of scope their for future experiments, give me a clone please someone?
also check this out on the dutch speech synthesis tip, i got it from Steim about 15 years ago, VOSIM voice simulation sound synthesis,
iits based on the idea that by employing repeating tone-burst signals of variable pulse duration and variable delay, a sound output of high linguistic and musical expressive power can be obtained

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dave: what microtuning did u use on syro ??

rich: I made some of my own up on zithers,piano, scala for sysex dumps into circlon and some other h-pi software, its quite subtle on syro, i didnt choose any of the far out ones yet for release.
got quite a few microtonal keyboards like their bigger ones
peeps can prob find me on circlon list as I've been pecking Colin for ages to implement a microtune editor for analogues on there!
He finally put scala import on there which was a hidden feature for a while , while i was making the end of syro, actually
but we, yes we the people REALLY need colin to b able to save the goddamn tuning tables on there and be able to tweak them intuitively on the fly!!!
when he does that ill be happy for next 10 years

talking of circlon which I'm pretty much always up for doing these days,
some of my mates were freaked out I made jungle tracks on the circlon inc. trk11 on syro, I just got so deep into circlon , when i first got it , i didn't know how far i could go with it but I'm like a shorthand typist on that thing now, timing is beautiful, its really re-trained my brain, seriously, now i can hear even more accurately like within 1ms i reckon.
its so funny controlling lappy from the circlon which it can do without blinking, love it, can control the computer better than the computer can control itself!
it is the best sequencer ever made til now, in terms of analogue i/o, timing man that box...its got a long way to go but I can't endorse it enough ! I've never been into endorsing anything, I've been asked by a lot of people but i hate the idea of it, makes my skin crawl, there can be good combos for sure between artist and maker but when its too business it all goes wrong, people gotta make a living but you can tell easily when people got their priorities wrong anyhow, anyway colin is totally on it and in it for the right reasons.
i hope colin does really well out of it, he deserves to , guys a genius and he's got my gx1 still for midi -ing!
but at the mo id rather he kept o.s updates flowing

you have to b extra mental to have a many synth /osc setup AND try to make microtonal tracks AND still try and get them all intune, ha its insanity but it can be done, its top i love it.

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[The Consul]

None of us know the answer. None of us know what happened. None of us have a chance of finding the solution. And even if we did they would kill us. None of us know anything that they cannot control, manipulate or use to mutilate the truth. Everyone wants to think they know the truth, or at least the truth is being taken care of for them (like money in a bank account). If you put 10,000 people in a room who all believe that 911 was an inside job at the end of the day they will be fighting with each other instead of finding common ground, and if they don’t “they” will make sure that by day two they will be at each other's throats and it will be on the 6 oclock news..
Capitalism is destroying the world. If the only way of turning a profit is to sell poisoned milk to starving babies that is what it will do. It isn’t the liberals. It isn’t the conservatives. Capitalism controls them both. The zenith state for capital is the fascist state, which is almost impossible to destroy from within. Fascism can't exist without an enemy. Our only hope is that it will create an enemy that will destroy it (and most likely us) before the world is finally shared in myriad rivers of shit by the super-rich in the island enclaves they are building from where they can comfortably watch us all perish in terror before the next round of tennis under the dome.

[IanEye]

In the second part of that Noyzelab interview, Aphex Twin links to this song:

https://soundcloud.com/richarddjames/circlont4aplydslownunmastered

If you download that song and listen to it in iTunes or the like, you can see this in the comments metadata:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxiQmtVGgcQ#t=202

so, back on topic?!?

[smiths]

in early 1991 I went to England and the bands I was into at the time were the Doors, the Cure, the Violent Femmes ... stuff like that

the older brother of a friend asked me and my mate if we wanted to go to a warehouse party a few weeks after i had got there and it is no exaggeration to say that my life changed that night

the acid house music, early breakbeat stuff and the UK ragga blew my mind

but right at the very beginning, one electronic musician stood out for me beyond the rest,
this was the first track I ever heard of his and it truly blew my mind and made me understand that electronic music was where it was at



having said that, around the same time i heard this one and i realised that no amount of brilliance with patterns, ASDR, or oscillation can nourish the whole soul, you need a bit of ... soul



for the early ragga i dont reckon you can top this stuff



oh yeah, and anyone who believes the official story is gullible, blah, blah

as JW said, original sin was an inside job

[IanEye]

On a Hybrid Time Domain-LPC Technique for Prosody Superimposing Used for Speech Synthesis

ABSTRACT
Wishing to obtain a more natural quality of the synthesized speech and to eliminate the disadvantages of the previous text-to-speech (TTS) systems evolved in our institute, we experimented and developed a new synthesis method that combines the advantages of time domain signal processing with the requirement of pitch and duration modification (required by intonation).
This paper presents some theoretical considerations, signal processing and implementation aspects of this pitch alteration technique that was adapted for the new version of the ROMVOX TTS system.

[NeonLX]

None of us know the answer. None of us know what happened. None of us have a chance of finding the solution. And even if we did they would kill us. None of us know anything that they cannot control, manipulate or use to mutilate the truth. Everyone wants to think they know the truth, or at least the truth is being taken care of for them (like money in a bank account). If you put 10,000 people in a room who all believe that 911 was an inside job at the end of the day they will be fighting with each other instead of finding common ground, and if they don’t “they” will make sure that by day two they will be at each other's throats and it will be on the 6 oclock news..
Capitalism is destroying the world. If the only way of turning a profit is to sell poisoned milk to starving babies that is what it will do. It isn’t the liberals. It isn’t the conservatives. Capitalism controls them both. The zenith state for capital is the fascist state, which is almost impossible to destroy from within. Fascism can't exist without an enemy. Our only hope is that it will create an enemy that will destroy it (and most likely us) before the world is finally shared in myriad rivers of shit by the super-rich in the island enclaves they are building from where they can comfortably watch us all perish in terror before the next round of tennis under the dome.

{SIGH} You are correct. I couldn't put it nearly as well as this, so I'll just thank you for stating exactly what I think in my own disjointed way.

[brekin]

None of us know the answer. None of us know what happened. None of us have a chance of finding the solution. And even if we did they would kill us. None of us know anything that they cannot control, manipulate or use to mutilate the truth. Everyone wants to think they know the truth, or at least the truth is being taken care of for them (like money in a bank account). If you put 10,000 people in a room who all believe that 911 was an inside job at the end of the day they will be fighting with each other instead of finding common ground, and if they don’t “they” will make sure that by day two they will be at each other's throats and it will be on the 6 oclock news..
Capitalism is destroying the world. If the only way of turning a profit is to sell poisoned milk to starving babies that is what it will do. It isn’t the liberals. It isn’t the conservatives. Capitalism controls them both. The zenith state for capital is the fascist state, which is almost impossible to destroy from within. Fascism can't exist without an enemy. Our only hope is that it will create an enemy that will destroy it (and most likely us) before the world is finally shared in myriad rivers of shit by the super-rich in the island enclaves they are building from where they can comfortably watch us all perish in terror before the next round of tennis under the dome.

NeonLX wrote:
{SIGH} You are correct. I couldn't put it nearly as well as this, so I'll just thank you for stating exactly what I think in my own disjointed way.

Agreed. 9/11 is a conspiracy that is too big to realize in any conclusive fashion and will keep generations of conspiracy theorists and hanger ons busy tracing circles within circles. The conspiracy or not of 9/11 rubric seems like another lingering legacy of the event. Now either 1. You are crazy for believing that large parts of the military industrial complex have gone crazy or 2. You are a fool for not believing so and trying to prove it (aka "research" on the net.) or 3. You hold your cognitive mud perpetually on the matter to blend with members of 1 and 2. Which in itself, perversely, is another front of the mental servitude that is The War on Terror. It's like getting pulled into the Inquisition when you really don't give a fuck either way. Or getting trapped on a plane to nowhere that only has inflight M. Night Shyamalan films to view.

As for the event itself, I don't know I'm a little crypto fatigued on it at this point, play misty for me. You can view it as a long culminating event of the worst parts of the apparatus or just a more public manifestation of the ongoing process, the beast burping in public. But while it seems paradigm changing, maybe it ends up having as much relevance on how things are done and will probably continue to be done as whether Abraham Lincoln was gay or not. Or possibly be a no brainer paragraph in the future Chinese or Russian school text books in this land like Hitler's Reichstag fire now is. I see some slightly bored uniformed student in the back row looking at the the paragraph, "Mmh interesting".

Consul wrote:

Our only hope is that it will create an enemy that will destroy it (and most likely us) before the world is finally shared in myriad rivers of shit by the super-rich in the island enclaves they are building from where they can comfortably watch us all perish in terror before the next round of tennis under the dome.

Yes, anyone for tennis? Wouldn't that be nice?

Twice upon a time in the valley of the tears
The auctioneer is bidding for a box of fading years
And the elephants are dancing on the graves of squealing mice
Anyone for tennis, wouldn't that be nice?

And the ice creams are all melting on the streets of bloody beer
While the beggars stain the pavements with fluorescent Christmas cheer
And the Bentley-driving guru is putting up his price
Anyone for tennis, wouldn't that be nice?

And the prophets in the boutiques give out messages of hope
With jingle bells and fairy tales and blind colliding scopes
And you can tell they're all the same underneath the pretty lies
Anyone for tennis, wouldn't that be nice?

Yellow Buddhist monk is burning brightly at the zoo
You can bring a bowl of rice and then a glass of water too
And fate is setting up the chessboard while death rolls out the dice
Anyone for tennis, wouldn't that be nice?

[IanEye]

featuring rsf sd140 drum machine (one of me fave bits of old gear) , i think afx might have used one also.

[Wombaticus Rex]

Been reading up on AFX constantly these days, Syro has been on repeat since I put it on.

I really resonated with the first paragraph of this -- I've been far more interested in video work since I got a new laptop late last year, for the express purpose of getting back into instrumental work. I'm still building a sound library, and I will go back to my old workflow of processing on Audition and then sequencing in Acid, because it's a level of granular precision - and yea, difficulty, that I find engaging. All of the new software I've tested out was offensively pre-emptive, and the current EDM/pop soundscape is cheap and clumsy, to my ears.

I used to like to make music on a laptop. When I started to do it, it was almost impossible and I really liked that, because it was so difficult to make music on a laptop. There were almost no programs. So you had to put programs toegther, the first one I used was Max/MSP. There weren’t really any plug-ins or anything like that. But I really liked it. Now, it’s really easy.

But I’ve actually recently hired a Chinese programmer to make a music software for me. It’s taking the concept of mutation into music software. You give the program some sounds you made and then it gives you six variations of it and then you choose the one you like most and then it makes another six and it kind of keeps trying to choosing the variations by itself. It’s a bit like that, but more advanced, but basically it starts with a sound, analyzes it, then does different versions of variations. It randomizes, it compares all of them to the original and then it picks the best one. It sounds totally awesome, but it needs to be tweeked a little bit. I will continue with this. I have a whole book full of ideas for software and instruments.”

..and that second paragraph was mighty interesting. My young acid-marinated brain was drawn to James' more rhythmic and compositionally intense forays, but I love his ambient / algorithmic / iterative work, too. He has some instruments that are basically experimental installations, like the Remote Orchestra setup. Also: Interactive Tuned Feedback Pendulum Array. Very interesting brain.

That was from this excellent Groove magazine piece, 25 Questions for Aphex Twin. They let a bunch of other electronic music weirdos ask him a single question. Some were surprisingly snotty / deliberately offensive! Beef.

Electronic music is a remarkably drama-free space, though, for a gathering of human beings competing for economic resources. Ergo most of this interview is just awesome.

4. Mate Galic: How did you switch from using hardware to using software for making music – and maybe back again? Has that changed the way you write music?

“This is the guy from Native Instruments, right?. For me Traktor is like the beginning, but you could do so much more with it. You could make it more complex but also simpler. For example, they have got these two screens with the wave-forms. But basically all you need is one screen with the wave-form of the tracks you’re playing in different colours so you can put them on top of each other. Then you can mix without even listening.

On the new album it’s all hardware actually. It’s no computer on any tracks basically. There’s maybe a few plug-ins and half of it is sequenced on the computer with the other half being sequenced with hardware. The reason I prefer to work with analogue synths is – for me it’s like a mathematical thing when you come down to it. Basically a computer can’t do distortion, everything on the computer just sounds perfect, which is nice if you want to make perfect tracks, but if you don’t, then you’re kind of stuck. Of course you can sample, you can record things and you can create sounds, but I really prefer to make sounds on synthesizers.