Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby 82_28 » Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:17 pm

Though Bernie Sanders won the New Hampshire primary in a landslide over Hillary Clinton, he will likely receive fewer delegates than she will.

Sanders won 60 percent of the vote, but thanks to the Democratic Party’s nominating system, he leaves the Granite State with at least 13 delegates while she leaves with at least 15 delegates.

New Hampshire has 24 “pledged” delegates, which are allotted based on the popular vote. Sanders has 13, and Clinton has 9, with 2 currently allotted to neither.

But under Democratic National Committee rules, New Hampshire also has 8 “superdelegates,” party officials who are free to commit to whomever they like, regardless of how their state votes. Their votes count the same as delegates won through the primary.

New Hampshire has 8 superdelegates, 6 of which are committed to Hillary Clinton, giving her a total of 15 delegates from New Hampshire as of Wednesday at 9 a.m.

The state’s 2 remaining superdelegates remain uncommitted.

In the overall delegate count, Clinton holds a commanding lead after a razor-thin victory in Iowa and a shellacking in New Hampshire. Clinton has 394 delegates, both super and electorally assigned, to only 42 for Sanders.


http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/10/hilla ... fter-loss/

OK this is fucked up and bullshit.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby 82_28 » Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:20 pm

Clinton wins by coin flips and "super delegates"??? WTF.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Project Willow » Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:28 am

As Sanders mentions Kissinger and Vietnam, moderator (mic still on), "Oh my god"

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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:37 am

^^Damn, good find.

Talking about Kissinger honestly seems to be a huge transgression to the DC establishment. I really hope they get more uncomfortable in the months to come.

Still, I haven't seen such an overt (and probably damn near involuntary) admission of that until this video clip. Thanks -- never would have seen it otherwise.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Grizzly » Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:53 am

Had to fix a t.v. at work, and caught a "political commentator" either accidentally or on purpose call, Bern, 'Colonel Sanders' however, she was talking about the south so I suspect it was on purpose ... it was so subtle you could have been just a mere, faux pas.But I doubt it.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Luther Blissett » Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:11 pm

Wombaticus Rex » Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:37 am wrote:^^Damn, good find.

Talking about Kissinger honestly seems to be a huge transgression to the DC establishment. I really hope they get more uncomfortable in the months to come.

Still, I haven't seen such an overt (and probably damn near involuntary) admission of that until this video clip. Thanks -- never would have seen it otherwise.


I actually watched last night and couldn't believe he brought it up. He actually discussed a lot of superficial 20th century geopolitical history, and my immediate thought was the the media would treat this like an old man who was losing it.

It was seriously all textbook chapter headers, but in context read as that real deep history shit.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Nordic » Fri Feb 12, 2016 3:07 pm

Kissinger needs to go. Somebody needs to cut off his supply of virgin blood to be injected. I'm not joking. I'm sure that's what's keeping him alive at this point.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Perelandra » Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:01 pm

But Clinton possesses a simply insuperable lead among rural, blue-collar, and minority Democrats. If she gets into trouble in Iowa and New Hampshire, her Southern “firewall” will save her.

I read this today, and it really confused me. Is this old white guy-speak? Can somebody explain it, if true?
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby 82_28 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:12 pm

Nordic » Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:07 am wrote:Kissinger needs to go. Somebody needs to cut off his supply of virgin blood to be injected. I'm not joking. I'm sure that's what's keeping him alive at this point.


Imagine being the one guy that nobody will care when you die and also say good riddance. Adios, dude.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby zangtang » Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:31 pm

needs to be gently tortured into confessing being 'Sasha' all along.

its all such a long long time ago.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Iamwhomiam » Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:02 pm

I too was puzzled when Bernie raised Kissinger's still breathing ghost. Now I believe he was trying to indict Hillary as continuing Kissinger's legacy during her term as Secretary of State. Hillary = Kissinger in a skirt.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Project Willow » Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:24 pm

I always thought Corn was a handmaiden, but I like this article:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/02/hillary-clinton-kissinger-vacation-dominican-republic-de-la-renta

Hillary Clinton and Henry Kissinger: It's Personal. Very Personal.
The Clintons and the Kissingers regularly spend holidays together at a beachfront villa.

At Thursday night's Democratic presidential debate, one of the most heated exchanges concerned an unlikely topic: Henry Kissinger. During a stretch focused on foreign policy, Bernie Sanders, the senator from Vermont, jabbed at former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for having cited Kissinger, who was Richard Nixon's secretary of state, as a fan of her stint at Foggy Bottom.

"I happen to believe that Henry Kissinger was one of the most destructive secretaries of state in the modern history of this country," Sanders huffed, adding, "I will not take advice from Henry Kissinger." He referred to the secret bombing of Cambodia during the Vietnam war as a Kissinger-orchestrated move that eventually led to genocide in that country. "So count me in as somebody who will not be listening to Henry Kissinger," Sanders roared. Clinton defended her association with Kissinger by replying, "I listen to a wide variety of voices that have expertise in various areas." She cast her interactions with Kissinger as motivated by her desire to obtain any information that might be useful to craft policy. "People we may disagree with on a number of things may have some insight, may have some relationships that are important for the president to understand in order to best protect the United States," she said.

What Clinton did not mention was that her bond with Kissinger was personal as well as professional, as she and her husband have for years regularly spent their winter holidays with Kissinger and his wife, Nancy, at the beachfront villa of fashion designer Oscar de la Renta, who died in 2014, and his wife, Annette, in the Dominican Republic.

This campaign tussle over Kissinger began a week earlier, at a previous debate, when Clinton, looking to boost her résumé, said, "I was very flattered when Henry Kissinger said I ran the State Department better than anybody had run it in a long time. So I have an idea about what it's going to take to make our government work more efficiently." A few days later, Bill Clinton, while campaigning for his wife in New Hampshire, told a crowd of her supporters, "Henry Kissinger, of all people, said she ran the State Department better and got more out of the personnel at the State Department than any secretary of state in decades, and it's true." His audience of Democrats clapped loudly in response.

It was odd that the Clintons, locked in a fierce fight to win Democratic votes, would name-check a fellow who for decades has been criticized—and even derided as a war criminal—by liberals. Bill and Hillary Clinton themselves opposed the Vietnam War that Nixon and Kissinger inherited and continued. Hillary Clinton was a staffer on the House Judiciary Committee that voted to impeach Nixon, and one of the articles of impeachment drafted by the staff (but which was not approved) cited Nixon for covering up his secret bombing of Cambodia. In the years since then, information has emerged showing that Kissinger's underhanded and covert diplomacy led to brutal massacres around the globe, including in Chile, Argentina, East Timor, and Bangladesh.

With all this history, it was curious that in 2014, Clinton wrote a fawning review of Kissinger's latest book and observed, "America, he reminds us, succeeds by standing up for our values, not shirking them, and leads by engaging peoples and societies, the sources of legitimacy, not governments alone." In that article, she called Kissinger, who had been a practitioner of a bloody foreign-policy realpolitik, "surprisingly idealistic."

This Clinton lovefest with Kissinger is not new. And it is not simply a product of professional courtesy or solidarity among former secretaries of state, who, after all, are part of a small club. There is also a strong social connection between the Clintons and the Kissingers. They pal around together. On June 3, 2013, Hillary Clinton presented an award to de la Renta, a good friend who for years had provided her dresses and fashion advice, and then the two of them hopped over to a 90th birthday party for Kissinger. In fact, the schedule of the award ceremony had been shifted to allow Clinton and de la Renta to make it to the Kissinger bash. (Secretary of State John Kerry also attended the party.) The Kissingers and the de la Rentas were longtime buddies. Kissinger wrote one of his recent books while staying at de la Rentas' mansion in the Dominican Republic and dedicated the book to the fashion designer and his wife.

The Clintons and Kissingers appear to spend a chunk of their quality time together at that de la Renta estate in the Punta Cana resort. Last year, the Associated Press noted that this is where the Clintons take their annual Christmas holiday. And other press reports in the United States and the Dominican Republic have pointed out that the Kissingers are often part of the gang the de la Rentas have hosted each year. When Oscar de la Renta died in 2014, the New York Times obituary reported:

At holidays, the de la Rentas filled their house in Punta Cana with relatives and friends, notably Bill and Hillary Clinton, Nancy and Henry Kissinger, and the art historian John Richardson. The family dogs had the run of the compound, and Mr. de la Renta often sang spontaneously after dinner. First-time visitors, seeking him out in the late afternoon, were surprised to find him in the staff quarters, hellbent on winning at dominoes.

In 2012, the Wall Street Journal, in a profile of de la Renta, wrote:

Over Christmas the Kissingers were among the close group who gathered in Punta Cana, including Barbara Walters, Bill and Hillary Clinton, and Charlie Rose. "We have two house rules," says Oscar, laughing. "There can be no conversation of any substance and nothing nice about anyone."

A travel industry outlet reported that Vogue editor Anna Wintour was part of the crew that year. The Times described the house this way: "[T]hough imposing in the Colonial style, with wide verandas (and its own chapel on the grounds), [it] also had a relaxed feeling." Last April, the Weekly Standard noted that the Clintons had spent a week around the previous New Year's at Punta Canta and that Secret Service protection for the trip had cost $104,000. It was during this vacation that Hillary Clinton reportedly decided to run for president for the second time.

This gathering of the Clintons, the Kissingers, and the de la Rentas seems to occur most years. In 2011, de la Renta, a native of the Dominican Republic, told Vogue that he built this seaside estate so he could host his close friends, and he cited the Kissingers and Clintons as examples. "At Christmas," he said, "we're always in the same group."

The Clinton campaign did not respond to a request for comment. Neither did Henry Kissinger or Annette de la Renta.

When awarding herself the Kissinger seal of approval to bolster her standing as a competent diplomat and government official, Hillary Clinton has not referred to the annual hobnobbing at the de la Renta villa. So when Sanders criticized Clinton for playing the Kissinger card—"not my kind of guy," he declared—whether he realized it or not, he was hitting very close to home.


High Holidays anyone? And where is Bill's pedo-buddy Epstein? Maybe he doesn't go for the ceremonial stuff.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Iamwhomiam » Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:36 pm

Ewww... They proly use his plane to get there.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby backtoiam » Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:23 pm

I suppose this could cause a few voting "irregularities."

Inferno In New Jersey Torches 700 Voting Booths
Posted on February 12, 2016

Shark Tank – by Nicole Sanders

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An inferno is currently burning at an industrial park in Somerset County, New Jersey. I have been advised all of the counties 700 voting booths are most likely destroyed.

Former Bound Brook mayor, Carey Pilato had the following to say about what will happen if the voting booths are a total loss:

In my experience as a local chairman, council member and mayor, I have confidence in the board of elections and their contingency planning – they will be ready for the next election. I have known the board to be very responsive and proactive to ensuring the sanctity of voting in Somerset county. I have faith that The freeholder board will work diligently to provide what’s needed for the next election.

At this time there are no plans I am aware of to facilitate new voting booths. Everyone is concerned about what is important right now: containing the fire and keeping everyone safe.

One of the affected towns is Manville, New Jersey. Manville’s mayor, Richard Onderko told me the following about the fire:

Manville fire and rescue are on site along with many other towns. I pray all our first responders remain safe and that the fire will be under control soon.

The fire is thought to have claimed the voting booths is currently at 7 alarms and it is projected it will continue for most of the night. Residents in the area are asked to keep their windows closed and many are now without power.

It is being reported residents over 30 miles away from the fire can see the smoke.

The cause of the fire is still unknown. No injuries or deaths been reported.

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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby slimmouse » Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:45 pm

82_28 » 12 Feb 2016 20:12 wrote:
Nordic » Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:07 am wrote:Kissinger needs to go. Somebody needs to cut off his supply of virgin blood to be injected. I'm not joking. I'm sure that's what's keeping him alive at this point.


Imagine being the one guy that nobody will care when you die and also say good riddance. Adios, dude.


My career question for kissinger would probably be "What were you thinking?"
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