Jerky » Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:36 am wrote:I should be surprised by the Putin hero-worship here - after all, it was on this board that I recall first discussing the false-flag Russian apartment bombings that Putin was generally believed to have concocted - but considering how much the alt-media has been singing Putin's praises over the last couple years, I suppose a bit of retroactive amnesia is to be expected.
Putin. A good guy. Never thought I'd live to see the day.
J
I am really surprised at you coming out with this pro-Kievian nonsense and then reframing the objections to it as being Putinian hero worship. Doesn't seem like you.
Russia is under an all out economic attack by the US, who are using Saudi proxies to fuxor the rouble, which has pretty much happened.
Ukraine is run by the US State Department proxies and is about to be asset stripped in return for an IMF lifeline loan.
The Azov Battalion is not shown as being a fascist death squad in the NYT. It still is, though.
Crimea has been Russian since 1783. Whether the Russians should sod off and leave it to the Crimean Tatars who were in the place for half a millennium before that is a moot point.
RI has had a Copy Pasta deluge supporting the "Putin and Russia" are evil. These have been very thoroughly debunked as neo-libcon propaganda, from George Soros funded and run organisations.
Mainstream media tends to show consistency on the Russian side. They are acting the same way as they did in a BBC documentary that covered the Georgian war, which had extensive interviews with all the participants such as Rice, Lavrov etc. A great program.
The Russians were pragmatic, rational and willing to seek win-win outcomes and were creative in the solutions they put forward. They telegraphed their intentions clearly and followed through on their word.
The Americans and Georgians were neo-con ideology-driven, acted much more unpredictably, were more concerned about 'losing face', didn't give a shit about 'win-win' outcomes, were terrible negotiators who just repeated the same thing over and over, were useless at telegraphing intention and could not be predictably relied upon.
This dynamic, from all the mainstream sources I have seen, seems to be repeating regarding Ukraine.