Dave McGowan, dying...

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Dave McGowan, dying...

Postby Grizzly » Fri May 22, 2015 2:03 am

The great Dave McGowan, author of Programmed to Kill, Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon, Wagging the Moondoggie, and the website Center for an Informed America, who wrote about 9/11 being a false flag op on 9/12, is dying. :(

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Damn, damn, damn....

His brother posted tonight on Facebook:

David is very sick. It is time to let this group know his condition. Dave has stage IV little cell cancer of the lungs, kidney, and bone. This is the most aggressive of lung cancers and grows very quickly. it spreads 50% of the time to the brain but at this time, David's scan is still clear. We have been informed that David needs to immediately begin chemotherapy. If he chooses to accept treatment, He has been given a worst case scenario of 6 months to one year. He also has a 2% chance of surviving for up to 5 years but that no one is known to have survived beyond that time.

and

Listen everyone. David understands the reality. There is no cure and his particular cancer is the most aggressive. We know the reality and the timelines I posted are what we can expect at least and at most to have David with us

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We are going to try Chem i first. If that fails, then we try Chem II. If that also fails, we go to alternative and trials. They are also going to radiate his brain. If all fail , he will be with us about 6 months maybe. Whatever happens, he will be surrounded by his family who LOVE and will continue to support him

Most of Dave's writings and links to his books can be found at his site Center for an Informed America

Here's part of what he published on Sept 12, 2001 about the so-called terrorist attack of the previous day. I tell you, the man is brilliant. Took me seven years to see what he saw in one day. I always hoped to meet him some day. Now it looks like I never will.

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The ugly truth is that all 'anti-terrorist' measures are designed not to protect the American people from attack or to protect our 'freedoms,' but to protect wealth and power – specifically the unprecedented levels of wealth currently held by corporate America – and to restrict those very freedoms that threaten their hold on that wealth. This American tragedy, in other words, plays directly into the hands of the corporate and military elite of this nation, who have for years been propagandizing for a more belligerent and imperialistic foreign policy and for more repressive legislation here on the homefront. Having been presented with a pretext to enact such measures, it is our leaders – elected or otherwise – who stand to gain the most from yesterday's bloodshed.

As for the question of who had the means and opportunity to commit these crimes, the official story holds that they were the work of a well-organized foreign terrorist organization. Officials have acknowledged that the operation was an exceptionally well-planned and well-coordinated series of attacks that required months of planning and a large network of co-conspirators to pull off. So well-organized was the operation that government spokesmen and television talking-heads (which are really the same thing) have been at a loss to explain some of the day's events. Many questions have been left unanswered and some haven't been asked at all. Some of the answers that have been offered have strained credibility far past the breaking point.

One question that has gone unanswered is how a plane was able to penetrate so deeply into the Pentagon's airspace – even after two other planes had already plowed into the World Trade Center towers. Despite the ridiculous current claims, the airspace surrounding the Pentagon is perhaps the most tightly controlled, militarily secure airspace in the world. This would be all the more true in the immediate aftermath of a large-scale 'terrorist' attack on New York City.

Claims have been made that even if the approach of the aircraft had sounded an alarm, it would not have been targeted due to the fact that it was a commercial aircraft with many innocent lives aboard. Nonsense. Anyone who thinks that U.S. military/intelligence personnel would hesitate to target a commercial airliner, particularly in light of the fact that two such aircraft had already been used in suicide attacks, is living in a media-induced fantasy world. The question then of how this plane was able to 'elude' the Pentagon's formidable defenses is one that should receive close scrutiny from America's 'free' and 'independent' press. There is virtually no chance that that will happen.

Another question that begs for an answer is how teams of presumably armed hijackers were able to breach the security measures of no less than three major airports and successfully hijack four separate flights. Contrary to the claims now being made, security precautions currently in place in U.S. airports are anything but "lax." That fact was being implicitly acknowledged by this morning, as reports began to come in claiming that the hijackers had improvised weapons from razor blades and other items carried in their shaving kits. The network and cable news broadcasters reporting this story actually did so with straight faces.

This scenario would be laughable were this story not such a tragic one. According to the latest official accounts, three to five terrorists boarded each of the hijacked aircraft (all of these terrorists, of course, were such religious fanatics that they had agreed to give their lives for the cause they believed in, and none of them presumably had second thoughts about that decision once the operation was underway). Does anyone really believe that a few guys wielding toothbrush handles embedded with razor blades could quickly and efficiently gain control of a commercial airliner? I would think that such a group would have their hands full trying to hold-up a liquor store.

How could, as has been reported, such a 'terrorist cell' possibly simultaneously overpower the flight crews and corral all of the flights' passengers into the rear of the planes? I don't consider myself to be a particularly brave or heroic sort of guy, but I would not hesitate for a second to take on a couple of guys wielding toothbrushes, particularly if my life, or the life of my family, was on the line and if I knew that I had some sixty people (the average number of passengers on the flights) behind me who would back me up. Maybe that's just me, but somehow I think most Americans would rise to the occasion.

Nevertheless, these terrorist teams reportedly succeeded where so many other, better-armed terrorists have failed. The majority of hijacking attempts, as officials have acknowledged, end in failure. There hasn't been one to succeed in this country for a decade. And yet these teams succeeded, and on a spectacular scale, in four-out-of-four attempts and with only the most primitive of weapons. To what are we to attribute that fact? Don't look to the media for answers.

Perhaps the most obvious question raised by the attacks, and one that officials have feebly attempted to answer, is how the planning for such an operation could have escaped the attention of the country's intelligence services. Whenever such an event occurs, the intelligence agencies rather predictably hang their heads, slump their shoulders and sheepishly grin as they explain their powerlessness to predict such things: "We did the best we could," they explain, "but our resources are limited, our adversaries formidable, and our sources not infallible."

That's a real nice story, but the reality is that the CIA – along with the FBI, ONI, DIA, NSC, NSA, DEA, and virtually every other three-letter acronym you could think of – constitutes the largest and most insidious intelligence network the world has ever seen. Its agents have fully infiltrated every foreign government on the planet, as well as every significant 'terrorist' group and every domestic resistance movement that has ever posed even a remote threat to the goals of those who helm the American ship of state. It is simply inconceivable that such an ambitious attack could have been planned, coordinated and launched without the knowledge of numerous members of the national security state.

That is the inescapable reality that no amount of media and government spin can erase, though politicians and their media puppets will work overtime to do exactly that. One need only to turn their television set off and their brain on though to see how preposterous is the claim that these attacks took the intelligence community by surprise.

Perhaps the most disturbing question raised by the attacks is what exactly caused the twin towers of the WTC to collapse? The impact of the planes affected only the upper floors of the towers; their foundations were unaffected. The UK's Guardian acknowledged that the initial impact of the aircraft would result in less stress on the building than is normally caused by high winds. The buildings were specifically designed to handle such horizontal movement.

The Guardian and its expert consultants conclude that the collapse of the buildings was the result of secondary explosions, attributed to the delayed release of the large supply of jet fuel carried by the aircraft. How though could the ignition of the jet fuel have occurred as a delayed, secondary explosion? As the endlessly played videotapes of the attacks graphically illustrate, the initial impacts resulted in enormous fireballs and the immediate engulfing of a portion of the buildings in flames.

It is inconceivable that the aircraft's fuel tanks would not have burst upon impact, with their contents then immediately ignited. Indeed, if that wasn't in fact the case, then how are we to explain the initial explosions and fireballs that were witnessed by the world? What exactly was it that created the spectacular initial blasts if it wasn't the jet fuel? But if that was the case, what was it then that created the secondary explosions that appear to have occurred? These secondary blasts were acknowledged early in the day by an NBC newsman. The correspondent stated on the air that he had just talked with the fire department's public safety commissioner who verified that large secondary explosions precipitated the collapse of the towers.

A radio broadcaster on WLS in Chicago (according to a correspondent), whose former colleague* is a CBS journalist who was on the scene at the towers, said on the air that this colleague had witnessed an enormous fireball emanating from beneath one of the towers immediately before it came crashing down. What are we to make of these scattered reports, none of which received any follow-up coverage amidst the non-stop blizzard of media attention?

To be sure, the collapse of the towers, captured on tape for all the world to see, had the decided appearance of controlled implosions, facilitated by the precise placement of technologically advanced explosives. The world has never before witnessed such complete destruction of a targeted building by an act of war or a 'terrorist' assault. We have seen the United States target many a building for destruction. In the most recent military venture, we saw an embassy building and a television studio, among many others, take direct and multiple hits from state-of-the-art bombs and guided missiles. The buildings were devastated, to be sure, but the damage didn't come close to matching the pile of rubble that the Twin Towers were reduced to.

We also saw a highrise Israeli apartment building take a direct hit from an Iraqi Scud missile during the Gulf war (actually, most of us probably didn't see that, except for those who happened to be tuned in to CNN for the brief few moments when the footage was aired; as it turns out, that Scud missile was actually safely intercepted by a trusty Patriot missile, or so it was claimed, just as if the footage had never aired). The point though is that the building was hit and did suffer extensive damage, and undoubtedly at the cost of many lives. But again, the building – though sheared nearly in half – was in considerably better shape than the WTC towers.

It occurs to me then that perhaps America has invested entirely too much time and money in pursuit of creating ever more powerful and efficient weapons systems. Who would have ever thought that the best weapon with which to reduce an entire tower to rubble was the plane itself. It doesn't even have to be a military plane – any old commercial aircraft will do. Someone obviously should have followed up on the early work done in this area by the Japanese during World War II.

In the final analysis, we must ask ourselves the following questions: Who had the means to get highly-trained commando teams onto four commercial aircraft flying out of three separate airports? Who had the ability to violate the Pentagon's airspace, completely unmolested and unchallenged? What weapons were really used to commandeer those aircraft and who had the means to get them on the planes? Who had the ability to plan and execute such an ambitious, multi-pronged attack without the interference of the U.S. intelligence services? Who had the means to staff each of the four teams with at least one well-trained, and suicidal, pilot? Who had the means and opportunity to plant secondary explosive charges, if in fact these were used?

Finally, perhaps the most important question to be asked is: who stands to gain the most in the bleak aftermath? It is certainly not the American people, or any resistance movement within these borders. It's definitely not the still-to-be identified target(s) of the nation's wrath (which will likely include Iraq). That would seem to limit the remaining choices.

It is quite possible, indeed quite likely, that members of some 'extremist' group served as the foot soldiers of these attacks. But it is just as likely that they were used as pawns in the global chess game that serves as our collective reality. It is also likely that these 'terrorists' were motivated by legitimately perceived grievances with the U.S. government. Those motivations weren't likely shared by their puppeteers, however, who cynically manipulated those belief systems to serve their own ends. Most of the participants probably did not know that they were embarking on suicide missions. Quite likely only the pilots knew that, and they may very well have received a little more 'training' than your average pilot.

All of this is, by necessity, just speculation at this point. The true facts of the case will emerge over time in bits and pieces, mixed in with a healthy dose of disinformation. It matters little though in which direction those facts point. The official story has already been written.


I agree with the two comments:


[–]RangerLocust 1 point an hour ago

Can cancer be weaponized?

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[–]rabbits_dig_deep[S] 2 points an hour ago

I think so. Even hiding a piece of metal that is radioactive in his house or mattress would probably do it.
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Re: Dave McGowan, dying...

Postby divideandconquer » Fri May 22, 2015 8:58 am

I've read all of his books and listened to all of his interviews which gives me the false sense of having known him....this is so sad! I'm sure the powers that be are delighted. If he didn't have cancer, I would be suspicious.
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Re: Dave McGowan, dying...

Postby Freitag » Fri May 22, 2015 11:48 pm

Dammit. This news has made me sad. He will be in my prayers.
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Re: Dave McGowan, dying...

Postby 82_28 » Sat May 23, 2015 7:05 am

Fuck, this sucks. I feel so bad bad for his pain. The guy is basically one of the most clever and thorough of writers ever. Prayers as well but it does not sound good. If I got cancer I would just tell 'em to put me down. I don't know if he smoked but maybe I should quit. Except I don't want to.

However, just awful and you are a kindred spirit to many, Dave. I love you.
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Re: Dave McGowan, dying...

Postby Elvis » Sat May 23, 2015 9:06 am

McGowan's great sense of humor should help him abide. His sarcasm is often hilarious!
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Re: Dave McGowan, dying...

Postby divideandconquer » Sat May 23, 2015 6:50 pm

He may have been the first to publicly question 9/11 as he posted an article on 9/12/01: http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/wtc.html

Sorry if this has been posted somewhere else, but here's a fairly recent interview with him about the Boston bombing.

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Re: Dave McGowan, dying...

Postby sneezus christ » Sun May 24, 2015 6:19 pm

This is horribly sad, this man was a light in the community and what all researchers should strive to be. I have learned so much from his efforts my world perspective has been shaped by this man and his work. I am sad to know he will know longer be provide so much illumination. The possibility of his life being ended through medical assassination is hopefully just a fantasy as it is infuriating to know that may be true.
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Re: Dave McGowan, dying...

Postby sneezus christ » Sun May 24, 2015 6:23 pm

Laurel Canyon & Rock n Roll, the apollo missions, serial killers and satanic organizations, the pedophcracy, abraham lincoln, boston bombings, 9/11, political musings, this guy covered so much his body of work is incredible.
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Re: Dave McGowan, dying...

Postby divideandconquer » Sun May 24, 2015 7:22 pm

The possibility of his life being ended through medical assassination is hopefully just a fantasy as it is infuriating to know that may be true.


I'm usually the first to jump on the conspiracy bandwagon when someone who causes problems for the powers that be meets an untimely death, however I'm not so sure this time. I don't think employing targeted killing as a tactic would accomplish anything in Mcgowan's case except for the possibility of making his reputation more widespread. All of his information, all of his books are already out there...closing the barn door after the horses bolted, etc...

Unless, of course, he's stumbled across something earth shattering he's failed to mention. :zomg
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Re: Dave McGowan, dying...

Postby Twyla LaSarc » Wed May 27, 2015 9:16 pm

I hope he tries alternative medicines.

I know at least one person who has kept cancer in remission with hemp oil and others who have survived using other methods such as diet or amazonian and chinese herbals.

On the other hand both my parents died prematurely by chemo, true, their cancers might have taken them, but the chemo robbed them of their last years and IMO put them in the grave faster with more sickness and pain than no treatment would have. My father complained of being made ill by the color green and could no longer listen to music, in particular, the jazz that he had always enjoyed. Years later when my 92 year old grandmother found out she had cancer, she went to hospice. She had no intention of drawing the pain out for herself or the family.
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Re: Dave McGowan, dying...

Postby waugs » Wed May 27, 2015 10:17 pm

wow, this is truly sad. His writing has inspired and informed me for many, many years. I've read Programmed to Kill and Understanding the F-Word multiple times, gleaning new insights with each turn.

Hopefully he can fight it as long as possible.

Here's to you, Dave!
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Re: Dave McGowan, dying...

Postby Tyler Rabbit » Fri May 29, 2015 4:12 pm

Oh Jesus that's horrible. Interviewed him last year for my Finders flick. Lives 8 minutes from me.. Really nice guy. One of the last times I smoked tobacco, it was chain smoking with him on his patio. Fuck.
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Re: Dave McGowan, dying...

Postby divideandconquer » Sun Aug 23, 2015 6:07 pm

Any news on Dave? Or recent interviews?
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Re: Dave McGowan, dying...

Postby cptmarginal » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:27 pm

Click here for a very personal message from Dave (June 14, 2015)


He was on this subscriber-only podcast, though apparently the episode was freely available when first released: http://meria.net/2015/06/dave-mcgowan-in-his-own-words/

I hope he's doing better. You just know he's in the middle of horrible times right now, going through chemotherapy. Hopefully he knows what to do about the nausea, being in California and all. Just saying.
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Re: Dave McGowan, dying...

Postby Grizzly » Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:09 pm

Fuck cancer and fuck the AICR ...
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