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Re: Jeffrey Alan Lash

Postby coffin_dodger » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:22 pm

Search said:
There seems to be an intense human drive to find cultural scapegoats for conditions, rather than look (as best as we can) at the possible systems that we may intersect...


Yeah, that might have something to do with the inescapable fact that we live in a human-driven society.

God forbid that anyone be held accountable for their actions, above your pay-grade!

It's testament to a system of perfection - that the concensus belief is able reconcile 'bosses' all the way up and down the scale - in every single aspect of our lives - with, 'there's no one at the tippy-top'. It's all just running itself. Gotta admire the mechanisms that instill that so effectively.
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Re: Jeffrey Alan Lash

Postby Luther Blissett » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:50 pm

Searcher08 » Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:53 am wrote:

I think the interactions that are happening between our planet and the "Greater Community" are likely to have been and continue to be way way richer, personalised, impactful, more complex, nuanced, unexpected, inspiring, delightful, horrifying and appalling than ANYTHING of the 'archontic' ET baddies model has to offer.

There seems to be an intense human drive to find cultural scapegoats for conditions, rather than look (as best as we can) at the possible systems that we may intersect, using the few guiding principles' that nature seems to favour (like 'As Above, So Below'; self-similarity; viability)….


Definitely interested in hearing more thoughts on this. Despite not trusting Laura VadBunker, I'm receptive to the hypothesis.
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Re: Jeffrey Alan Lash

Postby Hunter » Sat Aug 08, 2015 3:25 pm

Luther Blissett » Thu Aug 06, 2015 2:10 pm wrote:Amazing work the last two pages. Angel coming over here, Willow's find with Taff's connection to West, Nordic and Hunter's questioning, and cptmarginal's post was just breathtaking.

Cptmarginal, since you didn't state it outright, do you know of Riconosciuto's connection to Harland Braun? Check American Dream's post from 2010: http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/view ... un#p315436

I feel like Nordic and cptmarginal sort of answered Hunter's question to me - this could have been a really bizarre "The Purge" / Gladio-style "stay behind" operation for ultraright / wealthy clientele to cause destabilization. Especially one that we seem to be building towards with the militarization of the police, ramped-up brutality, the evaporation of deescalation techniques, frothing over weaponized drones, and the blacklivesmatter movement resisting it all. In place of "evil communists" here are "evil people of color." And that's about as much theorizing as I like to do. I'm still open to every other possibility, except that he was a wealthy, crazy heir.

The idea of the operation as successful still fits with all of this. A massive cache of weapons was transferred to X party via the LAPD, the public is smokescreened and are made to preemptively think future domestic stay-behind operations are discredited, and the mission continues anew.


I agree great work from everyone, the paramilitary spin with Michael R and Braun connection, Hunt ect is very very interesting, somehow I also missed your post about the PALM PILOTS, that right there is some heavy shit, I have a little experience in the area and those old Palm Pilots, SPECIFICALLY the ones he is hoarding are very useful for hacking in to wireless networks even today ten years later. Think about that, if this were a paramilitary group Lash would be handing out guns, ammo, and a communications device to hack in to wireless networks wherever they may find themselves in the city. This is all starting to make some sense. Whether it is agency or private right wing money which ITSELF is probably agency, i dont know but the guns, the ammo and the palm pilots really paint a picture.
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Re: Jeffrey Alan Lash

Postby PufPuf93 » Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:33 am

Jeffrey Allen Lash is still an active thread at Websleuths.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showth ... 015/page37


Quote Originally Posted by lukeychance

There is a new article that just came out 6 hours ago in the Palisadian Post but you need to be subscribed to read it. Can somebody who is subscribed please post?


Not a subscriber but between the FB page and the first paragraph they show it sounds like Braun is talking about the now NINE, yes NINE, cousins who have stepped forward to claim part of the estate of JL! Braun says they are "alleging" to be cousins.... That's a lot of cousins for an only child, recluse, that hadn't even talked to his father in years!

It also said that ---- Jeffrey Lash has yet to be officially identified by the LA County medical examiner and is still considered a “John Doe”

So still a John Doe nearly one month after the body was (allegedly) retrieved.. This is the same coroner who just 7 weeks ago identified (and pretty quickly I might add) the man whose car went off the cliff in Malibu and rolled, burst into flames, and within a week of the fiery crash that destroyed the Tesla he was driving... County ID'd him via fingerprints.

Some fish sniff in this lengthy identification of JL also. I'll find the Malibu case and post it.
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Re: Jeffrey Alan Lash

Postby Luther Blissett » Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:35 pm

Yeah, I had to take a break from this case too. Some more information from the neighbors:
http://www.palipost.com/jeffrey-lash-ne ... ls-emerge/

Content is protected but I'll break it down:
  • every night for the past 15 years, a woman with long blonde hair who was not Catherine Nebron would pull up in a Mercedes with no license plates and drop large green trash bags on the front steps and leave. The neighbor said he never saw her go in and never spoke to her
  • neighbors said he claimed he was part of a survivalist group and invited an HOA president to join. "Bob" wanted to teach the main how to "rappel his car backwards off of a cliff." The HOA president said that this was a useful skill "for when the government attacked"
  • Lash told the neighbor that he was an ex-agent, still involved black ops, and keeping government equipment inside the house, which is why neighbors weren't allowed in
  • shades were always drawn, door never open more than 6" (for a fan)
  • the couple would butt heads with the HOA and Catherine would mention that her father was a judge and would threaten to involve him
  • Lash told the neighbor blue jokes every time he saw him, and that Catherine would look perturbed
  • neighbors don't want Catherine back
  • at one point, Lash's vehicles had cameras inside pointing out the windows
  • the aforementioned blonde woman would routinely check on Lash's vehicles every few days, checking for markings on the tires or tickets
  • I didn't quite grok this part, but the neighbor said that the couple would be very suspicious when in the cars - that they would get out of the car or close the doors if someone were walking by, and would wait for the person to pass before getting back in (who hangs out in their car with the doors open anyway? Who hangs out in their cars? That seems to be a recurring theme and one thing that always bothered me about his death story)

Nordic can you fathom any survivalist group local to this area? Would he have to have traveled to participate in this? Is the feeling that this was a smokescreen for the neighbors?
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Re: Jeffrey Alan Lash

Postby Searcher08 » Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:00 pm

OK This is a *real* left-field idea, but remember a while ago there was a couple of electricity sub-stations that were shot-up / bombed by what seemed like a professional "resistance / militia" group. My Bolded
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/29/us/california-power-substation-attacked-in-2013-is-hit-again.html?_r=0

California Power Substation Attacked in 2013 Is Struck Again

By MATTHEW L. WALDAUG. 28, 2014

The Silicon Valley power substation that was attacked by a sniper in April 2013 was hit by thieves early Wednesday morning, according to the Pacific Gas and Electric Company, despite increased security.

The substation, near San Jose, Calif., is the source of energy for thousands of customers, and the idea that it was the target of a well-organized attack, and that it might have been disabled for an extended period, raised anxieties about the possible broader vulnerability of the grid. The attack this week did not involve gunfire, and it did not seem intended to disable the facility.

Early Wednesday, an unknown number of thieves cut through a fence and made off with power tools, a pipe bender and ground compactors used to smooth out dirt after excavations, said Keith F. Stephens, a spokesman for Pacific Gas and Electric. The substation has an alarm system, but the “fence alarms that went on overnight were not reacted to or addressed in an appropriate manner,” Mr. Stephens said. He added that the problem was a result of “human error.”

The company has not determined the value of the items taken. The intruders did not appear to try to damage operating equipment, Mr. Stephens said.

Damage to the system was the intent in the 2013 incident, but the circumstances remain murky. That attack is still under investigation. The company offered a $250,000 reward around the first anniversary this year for information, but it did not receive any tips and has not paid anyone.

In the 2013 attack, shots were fired into the radiators of giant transformers, disabling but not destroying them. Two manhole covers were removed, and communications lines were cut. The utility said damages came to $15.4 million. Some of the transformers were repaired using components borrowed from other utilities; others had been nearing retirement anyway and were replaced.

This year, Jon B. Wellinghoff, then the chairman of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, which has jurisdiction over grid security precautions, said the attack was “the most serious domestic terror attack on the grid.He later backed away from that characterization, saying, “I don’t think there’s any need to have any particular label on it.”

Mr. Wellinghoff, a lawyer who has since left office, said that several people were involved in the shooting attack and that the scene had been scouted in advance by someone who left piles of rocks to mark where snipers would have the best vantage points.

But Laurie Smith, the Santa Clara County sheriff, said that her deputies had spent days at the scene and had not seen any such piles of rocks. And security experts said that the manhole covers could have been lifted by a single knowledgeable person with the proper tools.

No one has publicly claimed credit for that attack.

On Thursday, Mr. Stephens said that the theft early Wednesday had involved “likely more than one individual.”

Substations and other grid assets are mostly unguarded and unguardable, spread over vast areas. But concern about attacks, either physical or digital, has led to widespread participation in emergency exercises. In May, the North American Electric Reliability Corporation, an industry group that sets standards that become mandatory when approved by the federal regulatory commission, proposed new physical security standards.

Common security measures include alarms, cameras and fences to obscure lines of sight to some equipment. But the distribution system is designed around the principle that unexpected mechanical failures are a certainty, so some redundancy is built in.
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Re: Jeffrey Alan Lash

Postby cptmarginal » Mon Aug 17, 2015 4:07 pm

That's a good point... It's worth remembering that attacks on Pacific Gas and Electric stations have happened in the past as well, though never as sophisticated as those recent events. It seems like every time something like this happens it turns out to be some shadowy Turner Diaries bullshit that never gets resolved.

I've been trawling through news archives and have come across a whole slew of forgotten incidents with various right-wing would-be militias. Take this, for instance, worth quoting at length because it has some parallels with the Lash situation:

http://articles.latimes.com/2004/jan/07 ... na-terror7

Case Yields Chilling Signs of Domestic Terror Plot

Arms cache in Texas leads to convictions but few answers. Critics fault focus on foreign threats.


January 07, 2004 | Scott Gold

HOUSTON — One evening two winters ago, a man in Staten Island, N.Y., absent-mindedly flipped through his mail. Inside one envelope was a stack of fake documents, including United Nations and Defense Department identification cards, and a note: "We would hate to have this fall into the wrong hands."

It had. The package, intended for a member of a self-styled militia in New Jersey, had been delivered to the wrong address.

From that lucky break, federal officials believe they may have uncovered one of the most audacious domestic terrorism plots since the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing that killed 168 people. Starting with a single piece of mail, investigators discovered an enormous cache of weapons in Noonday, in East Texas, including the makings of a sophisticated sodium cyanide bomb capable of killing thousands of people.

Three people -- William Krar, a small-time arms dealer with connections to white supremacists; Krar's common-law wife, Judith L. Bruey; and Edward S. Feltus, the man who was supposed to have received the forged documents -- pleaded guilty in the case in November. They are being held in a Tyler, Texas, detention facility and are scheduled to appear before a federal judge for sentencing next month.

But what is typically the end of a criminal case may be only the beginning in this one. Some government investigators believe other conspirators may be on the loose. And they readily acknowledge that they have no idea what the stash of weapons was for -- though they have tantalizing and alarming clues of a "covert operation or plan," according to an FBI affidavit.

"What was Krar going to do with this stuff? That's what we want to know -- and we don't know," said Brit Featherston, an assistant U.S. attorney and the federal government's anti-terrorism coordinator in the eastern district of Texas. "There is no legitimate reason to have this stuff. The bottom line is that it only had one purpose, and that was to kill people. And it's very troubling that we have yet to figure it out."

Krar, 62, who lived in the piney woods of Noonday, a tiny community about 100 miles southeast of Dallas, pleaded guilty to possession of a chemical weapon and faces a possible sentence of life in prison, Featherston said.

Bruey, 54, pleaded guilty to conspiracy to possess illegal weapons and faces a maximum sentence of five years in prison, Featherston said.

Feltus, 56, of New Jersey, has pleaded guilty to aiding and abetting the transportation of false identification documents and faces a maximum sentence of 15 years in prison, Featherston said.

According to the FBI affidavit, Feltus has told investigators that he is a member of a group called the New Jersey Militia, which, according to its website, believes the federal government has grown too powerful and says it is "ready, as a last resort, to come to our nation's defense against all enemies, foreign or domestic."

It is unclear whether Krar or Bruey had any involvement with the organization. Neither representatives of the New Jersey Militia nor attorneys representing Feltus and Bruey could be reached for comment.

Tonda L. Curry, a Tyler attorney, represents Krar, who appears to have made much of his living, investigators say, by manufacturing trigger parts for .223-caliber Bushmaster rifles.

Krar, Curry acknowledged, is an "eccentric" who broke the law by possessing weapons he was not licensed to own, including fully automatic guns.

He has not cooperated with investigators, and Curry would not reveal any details of her conversations with Krar regarding motives for possessing the weapons. She said, however, that she had "never seen anything that indicates there was any kind of terrorism plot or any intent to use these things against the American people or the government in any way."

"He was not the type who kept these things at ready access. They were miles from his home in a storage facility," Curry said. "His home was not a bunker, an arsenal, whatever you want to call it, where he was ready to attack. These things were stored as collectibles."

The case began to unfold in January 2002, when the package was mistakenly delivered to Staten Island. Investigators traced it to a mailing and business center near Tyler, then to Krar and Bruey, who lived together in Noonday.

With Bruey's permission, they searched a storage facility the couple had rented. The firepower inside shocked law enforcement officers.

Investigators found nearly 500,000 rounds of ammunition, 65 pipe bombs and briefcases that could be detonated by remote control.


Most distressing, they said, was the discovery of 800 grams of almost pure sodium cyanide -- material that can only be acquired legally for specific agricultural or military projects.

[...]

At most, the critics say, increased attention to this case could have brought more answers. At the least, they say, if the defendants in this case had been people with foreign backgrounds or Muslims, U.S. Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft himself would have announced the arrests and the guilty pleas.

Instead, details of the case were revealed in a half-page press release sent to local media. Officials say the case was at one point included in President Bush's daily security briefings, but it remains virtually unknown outside East Texas -- even though, critics point out, it represents an instance in which federal authorities discovered a weapon of mass destruction.


But yeah, this is going off on a tangent. I'm finding a lot of different fascinating things in the LA Times archive, maybe someone will appreciate them:

O.C. Man in Hate Plot Had Gun Dealer Permit - Officials say he supplied arms to skinheads. - July 17, 1993

FBI Infiltrator Was on Verge of Being Exposed - "allegations of illegal arms trading by hate group members" - July 19, 1993

Data-Gathering by Militias, Neo-Nazis Sets Off Violence Alarms - September 11, 1995

Two former California businessmen are pouring cash into the relatively low-budget white supremacist movement

Deputies in 'Neo-Nazi' Gang, Judge Found - October 12, 1991

Scrutiny for L.A.'s Own Secret Police - June 15, 2003

And much more recently:

Deputies seize guns and white supremacist material in Littlerock - January 07, 2014

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Deputies seized weapons and white supremacist material at a property in Littlerock. (Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department)

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The case began three weeks ago after a storage unit was burglarized in Palmdale and four guns were stolen, according to officials.
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Re: Jeffrey Alan Lash

Postby PufPuf93 » Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:41 pm

Here is link to Aug 13, 2015 article at Palisadian-Post: http://www.palipost.com/the-race-is-on- ... shs-cache/

The site is copy protected beyond my ability to post text to RI.

Highlights from Attorney Braun:

Nine cousins plus Catherine Nebron are potential heirs.

Body is still a "John Doe".

Catherine Nebron also has monetary claims and also is said to have provided cash to Lash.

Nebron intends to re-occupy the condo.
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Re: Jeffrey Alan Lash

Postby Nordic » Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:55 am

Littlerock is way out in the desert, where you might expect to find meth labs, motorcycle gangs, and white supremacists. And survivalists. Breaking Bad country. FWIW.

Pretty much the opposite of the Palisades.

And no I don't know of any specific groups in the Palisades, just what I mentioned before which was all basically a hunch. One more thing -- back in the heyday of the military/aerospace program out here (going back to the 50's) there were many folks involved with that who lived in the Palisades. Could be a leftover culture from that as well.

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Re: Jeffrey Alan Lash

Postby cptmarginal » Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:15 pm

Yeah I know it's a bit silly to post all of that, it's just stuff I've come across very recently while researching this and other topics. It's just that when looking for some context to put this weapons cache in I've noticed that outside of gang-affiliated drug dealers busted with a bunch of guns, the only other times something like this happens there's usually some right-wing agenda or another. That applies to incidents like this one as well. And when I see the details about "Jeffrey Alan Lash" keeping weapons in storage units all over the city, all of which information is coming from a lawyer involved in the defense side of the Rampart scandal & the Rodney King trial...

But really this is harping on the same basic points. The "secret government agent" angle gets weirder the more I think about it.

Jeffrey Lash has yet to be officially identified by the LA County medical examiner and is still considered a “John Doe”


That's bizarre and incriminating, is it not?
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Re: Jeffrey Alan Lash

Postby Nordic » Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:41 pm

I didn't mean it was silly, I was just providing some context for the particular bust in Littlerock.

And yeah, it's weird as hell he is still a John Doe.

It makes me think that somebody, somewhere, probably a group of people, are debating what to do about this.
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Re: Jeffrey Alan Lash

Postby Luther Blissett » Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:15 pm

An event of this exact style does seem to be unprecedented.
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Re: Jeffrey Alan Lash

Postby PufPuf93 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:34 pm

A poster at Websleuths has made a series of posts linking Webb/Iran Contra/CIA drug dealing/arms trade and the efforts made by MSM to downplay the narrative.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showth ... 015/page39

In Webb's case, this resulted in CNN airing a piece on the conspiracy, by lumping it in with alien abductions. "That's the trick – make it a conspiracy and no one will believe it. These weren't aliens, these were real American government officials and real drug dealers."
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Re: Jeffrey Alan Lash

Postby PufPuf93 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:47 pm

Nordic » Tue Aug 18, 2015 6:41 pm wrote:I didn't mean it was silly, I was just providing some context for the particular bust in Littlerock.

And yeah, it's weird as hell he is still a John Doe.

It makes me think that somebody, somewhere, probably a group of people, are debating what to do about this.


I tend to think that the Lash story is some sort of covert ops gone wrong (typo-ed earlier in this thread a covert oops).

I don't think "we", the public, know hardly anything about the personalities.

Covert Ops by design are contingent and may never go active or may go active in a manner not the original plan.

Perhaps the guns and ammo were being traded for drugs or black budget dollars?

Perhaps the guns and ammo were being gathered to slip to a "target" in a false flag operation?

The weaponry would not be competitive with the weaponry held and used by US law enforcement or military.

Maybe the "real" Lash has been dead for years?

Lots of plausible deniability but also treatment in media and by LE that doesn't make sense.

And so on.

"It makes me think that somebody, somewhere, probably a group of people, are debating what to do about this."

I agree.

Alas, our curiosity may never be satisfied.
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Re: Jeffrey Alan Lash

Postby Searcher08 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:13 pm

I wondered about the B'nai B'rith connection of the previous generation. It sounded like a really broad, deep and nurtured network of Jewish legal professionals and their families. I cant imagine that this would just be let wither.

B'nai B'rith has a big connection with the World Jewish Congress, that changed somewhat in the 1980s - Edgar Bronfman came on the scene and both organisations seemed to change from somewhat inward facing humanitarian to much more hawkish, aggressive, pro-Israel stance - for example negotiating the migration of much of Soviet Jewry to Israel - who tended to be very conservative, anti-Palestinian and a big constituent of many 'settlements'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Jewish_Congress#Leadership_changes
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