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coffin_dodger » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:52 am wrote:The question is, DnC, do 'real' shootings transpire the way they do in the movies or on TV?
I've never seen someone get shot in person and I suspect it's very different to the fiction we are used to witnessing.
the holes and inconsistencies are so blatant it appears as if they're gaslighting us.
tapitsbo » Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:09 pm wrote:Different guns and wounds will create vastly different injuries too, though, won't they?
Elvis » Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:46 pm wrote:tapitsbo » Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:09 pm wrote:Different guns and wounds will create vastly different injuries too, though, won't they?
Yes, obviously. The fact that the reporter didn't immediately fall down is no indication of fakery. In fact, if for some reason it was faked, I'd expect her to fall down right away.
divideandconquer » Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:23 pm wrote:Elvis » Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:46 pm wrote:tapitsbo » Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:09 pm wrote:Different guns and wounds will create vastly different injuries too, though, won't they?
Yes, obviously. The fact that the reporter didn't immediately fall down is no indication of fakery. In fact, if for some reason it was faked, I'd expect her to fall down right away.
Okay, maybe you're right about the running. After all, chickens run around after their heads are cut off, right? But what about the lack of blood, lack of any kind of impact, lack of bullets and bullet casings, lack of recoil, lack of reaction to shooter's prolonged presence, lack of reaction after first shot...basically lack of everything but a muzzle flash? And why is shooter's hand the same color as that of the reporter and the person being interviewed?
I haven't had time to look into it, but supposedly the videos out there do not synch. I think I heard or read something about a rehearsal being taped at 6 AM. Has anyone else heard that?
Iamwhomiam » Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:29 pm wrote:Yes, tapitsbo, different bullets do create somewhat different wounds. The 'fight or flight' instinct is incredibly powerful. Adrenaline jolts the body to react and it responds until no longer able. We don't see how far she ran before collapsing. I doubt she reached the doorway she ran towards. Actually, a hollow point bullet, ($1000 fine per hp if caught in New Jersey where they are illegal to possess), does tear the hell out the insides of whomever it hits, as dnc stated, but that is also why an entry wound does not bleed very much: there is too little blood pressure to pour out the entry wound because of extreme internal hemorrhaging is flooding body cavities, pooling in the abdomen.
I can certainly identify with the fellow who tweeted about his loss. For three days* I could do nothing else but search the internet after learning my son "was in a terrible accident" and the hospital was not releasing any information, not even to me. I did manage to learn from the head of the ER that no one with my son's name had been admitted. He suggested I call the coroner's office, which I did, but they were unhelpful, too, redirecting me to to talk to detectives. Not entirely unhelpful, though: my son and his friends were killed at 7am Saturday and I only learned after 3am Sunday that "one of the victims at the morgue had my son's license in their pocket."
If the story is true about the assailant, I have no reason to doubt it, with all that been in the news about the plight of being born with dark skin in America's racist police state, perhaps his real or imagined slight was enough to push him 'over the edge'. Very sad for both the victims' and their assailant's family.
*Tuesday was the earliest flight I could obtain.
One big reason I gave up hunting after I tried it. Horrible nasty and violent business, killing animals with high speed metal projectiles. It's really awful.
Nordic » Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:14 pm wrote:Entry wounds can be tiny and have no blood especially at first. If they were hollow-point bullets, the very nature of them as described by DandC would mean no bloody exit wound, with all the damage occurring inside the body.
And if you've ever hunted you would know that living animals do not go down easily. In fact a big part of hunting involves tracking animals that have already been shot and can run away for miles, sometimes never bring found at all!
Animals don't just drop dead, like humans do in movies, unless it's a perfect head shot, like in slaughterhouses.
One big reason I gave up hunting after I tried it. Horrible nasty and violent business, killing animals with high speed metal projectiles. It's really awful.
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