Security Theater ("Crisis Actors")

[Jerky]

If you're so ignorant as to think my use of the phrase "Snopes remains the single best source for fact-checking" equals "Snopes is the single solitary source for all my opinions", then you aren't worth my time.

But I've know that for a while now.

J.

[Belligerent Savant]

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Laughable. A troll always has time.

What of the fact that Snopes partnered with Facebook and Associated Press? What's your take on that, 'ol pal?

[seemslikeadream]

Re: Security Theater ("Crisis Actors")
Postby Jerky » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:04 am


But I've know that for a while now.

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Laughable. A troll always has time.

Who is this troll you are talking about BS?

[Jerky]

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Laughable. A troll always has time.

Well, it's certainly true in YOUR case, and you're currently the most troll-like presence on this board. You seem to have infinite time to annoy and harass people you disagree with here, and craft long, repetitive jeremiads against us, claiming how you just want us to engage with your oh so relevant whattaboutism.

So I'll grant you that, yes. A troll always has time.

J.

[Belligerent Savant]

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Actually, you're right. I've allowed myself to succumb to sub-par behavior here. I'll take ownership of it, and will desist immediately.

The issues raised -- by me and others -- remain, however.

[American Dream]

Sad, but true.

The Right Comes for the Parkland Shooting Survivors

Sean Posey | Politics & Government | Commentary | April 24th, 2018



In the days after Nikolas Cruz murdered seventeen students in Parkland, the Washington Post reviewed thousands of posts on 8chan and 4chan (popular message boards for the alt-right and right-wing conspiracy theorists), as well as Reddit. They found an orchestrated disinformation campaign, sometimes referred to as "4chan attacks," aimed at destroying the credibility of news reports about the incident.

That campaign soon spread to attacking the survivors themselves, the Post shows.[1] "They began crafting false explanations about the massacre, the Post explained, "including that actors were posing as students, in hopes of blunting what they correctly guessed would be a revived interest in gun control."[2]

Within a very short period of time, wild alt-right conspiracy theories spread throughout social media and into so-called news outlets. Gateway Pundit, a bizarre, conspiracy-oriented website that actually gained White House press credentials in 2017, tweeted a fake BuzzFeed news story in the wake of the shooting. Reporter Lucian Wintrich, who holds White House press credentials, retweeted an article entitled, "Why We Need To Take Away White People's Guns Now, More Than Ever," which itself emanated from 4chan and was picked up by the Twitter account MagaPill. The account is known for spreading untruths, from the infamous "Pizzagate" story of 2016 to accounts of various so-called "false flag" attacks.[3] Sean Hannity and the Drudge Report, among others, have linked to or referenced articles in Gateway Pundit.

YouTube has played an important role in disseminating false information about the shooting, particularly the idea that students were actually "crisis actors," paid to act out a staged event. Jonathan Albright, research director at the Tow Center for Digital Journalism at Columbia, looked at 256 videos on YouTube on the subject of "crisis actors." He then followed the videos suggested to him by YouTube's recommendation engine. This ultimately revealed a network of nearly 9,000 conspiracy related videos. A video that suggested that the Parkland students are crisis actors (paid by George Soros and CNN) actually became the top trending video on YouTube before it was removed. [4]

According to Albright's study, "the view count for 50 of the top mass shooting-related conspiracy videos is around 50 million. Not every single video overlaps directly with conspiracy-related subjects, but it's worth pointing out that these 8842 videos have registered almostfour billion (3,956,454,363) views." [5]

The idea of suggesting that recent mass shootings are either hoaxes or "false flag" attacks, that is attacks orchestrated by the "Deep State" or other forces, dates back at least to the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in 2012. Perhaps the most well known purveyor of these types of conspiracy theorists is Alex Jones, who runs a daily radio show on Infowars.com. "The Alex Jones Show" reaches millions, and Jones, a close friend of Trump ally Roger Stone, actually hosted Trump on his show in December 2015. After the election, Trump called Jones to thank him for his support.

Jones called the Sandy Hook shooting a "hoax" and has refused to apologize for his assertions.[6] "I've watched the footage, and it looks like a drill," Jones said. [7] He has taken a similar approach to the Parkland shooting. After initial reports that gunman Nikolas Cruz was linked to a white nationalist group were corrected, Jones claimed the mistake was part of a liberal conspiracy against gun owners. "We said the perfect false flag would be a white nationalist attacking a multicultural school as a way to make the leftists all look like victims and bring in gun control and a war on America's recovery, and now, right on time, what we've been warning of, their main card, the thing we said was imminent, appears with all the evidence." [8]

Since then, Jones has run a segment showing footage of Parkland survivor David Hogg speaking with an Adolph Hitler speech dubbed over his voice. Instead of showing footage of the actual crowd at the 'March For Our Lives Rally,' the video instead cuts to historic footage of Germans saluting Hitler with outstretched arms. Parkland survivor Emma Gonzalez, a bisexual woman of color, is also shown spliced together with footage from Nazi rallies. Incredibly enough, Jones goes on to say that he is not actually calling the students Nazis. [9] This is the level of rhetoric going out across the nation from a show that garners an estimated two million listeners a week. One of Jones's followers has even started a website solely aimed at besmirching Hogg's character. [10]

http://www.hamptoninstitution.org/the-r ... land.html#.

[elfismiles]

False Flag: Is a Crisis Actor Posing as Alex Jones? - The Opposition w/ Jordan Klepper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb-qYZG0BKo

[chump]

I have yet to see anything substantial to show that Snopes isn't the single best fact check site operating on the Internet right now. And pretty much everyone I've seen try to smear Snopes... let's just say it's been pretty fucking obvious why they'd want to do that.

J.

This post is probably bullsh!t, but who’re we gonna get to check the story?

Snopes.com is run by an embezzler, a hooker & a dominatrix

Posted on December 23, 2016 by Dr. Eowyn

According to independent investigative journalist and former U.S. Navy officer and NSA employee Wayne Madsen, the fact-check website Snopes.com — which Facebook is using to combat so-called “fake news” — is a Cia operation.

Now, thanks to a report by the UK’s Daily Mail, we know Snopes not only peddles CIA propaganda, it is a sleazy outfit, run by an embezzler, a former hooker/porn star, and a dominatrix.

Reporting for Daily Mail, Dec. 21, 2016, Alana Goodman points out that Snopes.com will benefit from Facebook using the site as an arbiter of truth by determining what’s “fake news.” Now a DailyMail.com investigation has exposed Snopes.com’s sleazy underbelly...

https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2016/1 ... ominatrix/

[American Dream]

Sounds like a bad case of TIDS, maybe worse:

EVOLVEFEST: HOW A TINY HIPPIE FESTIVAL TRANSFORMED INTO A MASSIVE ONLINE HATE GROUP

On December 13th 2014, the eve of the second anniversary of the Sandy Hook massacre in Newton, CT, tiny New Jersey-based transformational festival Evolvefest posted a meme on their Facebook wall; but rather than the typical psychedelic airbrush art or spiritually-motivating quotes that had built them a fanbase of around 300k, the meme stated: ‘Keep Calm and Expose the Sandy Hook Hoax’.

That was the moment at which the core community of Evolvefest goers recognized that its founder David Andrew Bryson had finally cracked. Over the next few days he posted a number of badly photoshopped images that supported the much-harked conspiracy theory that Sandy Hook was a government ploy designed to strip Americans of their second amendment rights. Aggressively defending the right to bear arms and displaying a blatant lack of sympathy for those that died in the massacre was at stark odds with the page’s vast New Age-leaning audience.

The small, close-knit festival community built around the Evolvefest page was baffled. The languid, thousand-or-so capacity annual gathering that a core community of Northeast hippies had worked hard to build had had its disproportionately popular Facebook page hijacked by the festival’s central figure. But the immediate backlash from the community resulted in Bryson ramping up his paranoid rhetoric whilst deleting every single post and comment that criticized his viewpoints.

Bryson’s Sandy Hook outburst cost Evolvefest around a thousand of their core followers. But a week later the page had gained 10,000 new followers.

As the weeks rolled on, Bryson continued to use Evolvefest’s Facebook page as a soapbox and megaphone for his increasingly extreme rightwing views. He launched a splay of attacks on Jews, Muslims, and homosexuals, all the while honing an Old Testament tone, and completely transforming the page’s perspective from representing a subculture of heady alt-liberals, to rousing the paranoid, extreme right that skirt around the internet seeking “proof” of shadowy institutional agenda.

On January 31st 2015, Bryson took to the page once more and wrote the following:

“The sexual procreative inversion is a form of blasphemy against Life and the Goddess is pissed about it – nobody is born gay, there is no gay gene and homosexuality is rare in nature and where it is found is an aberration and likely the result of environmental toxins. We demand more from higher reasoning animals anyway.”

The post unleashed an enormous response from the community towards the festival’s founder. A Facebook group called ‘Boycott Evolvefest’ was promptly formed by core members of the original New Jersey collective that patronized and volunteered at the event. Dismayed at how the heretic founder had taken something they had built collectively and skewed it to his own bigoted agenda, they set to work spreading the word against what Evolvefest had become and attempted to put a stop to Bryson’s fervent hatemongering.

But Bryson continued, announcing that the 2015 festival would in fact go ahead and that it would be staged on “Private Farm, NJ”. Via an allegedly fictitious non-profit, Bryson collected money for the tickets (starting at around $230 and climbing steeply) and acted as if all was well and that Evolvefest was going to rise again, better than ever and unscathed from the considerable backlash within its core community. But perhaps unsurprisingly, the 2015 festival never went ahead, and Dave Bryson took to his well-trodden battleground of Facebook to unleash scorn on those that publicly requested a refund for their tickets.

https://pulseradio.net/articles/2016/02 ... hate-group

[DrEvil]

@chump: The claim of embezzlement came up in a bitter divorce settlement, and being an escort or a dominatrix should have fuck-all to do with how they do their job at Snopes. But it is sourced from the Daily Mail, that shining beacon of truthiness, so no surprises there.

Also: why do you keep posting from right-wing, racist sites? You do know that this is a leftist, anti-racist board, right?

[minime]

"You do know that this is a leftist, anti-racist board, right?"

Silly on the face of it.

RI is as racist as any forum on the Internet. Can't get beyond it. Will be the death of it. Well, was the death of it, hyperbolically speaking.

[Iamwhomiam]

^^^^ Speak for yourself; don't project.

[minime]

^^^^ Speak for yourself; don't project.

You mean "don't be rigorous, don't use your intuition, don't speak plainly".

Gotcha.

And that's all I have to say.

The truth must be broached in the rare moment, without rancor, but succinctly. Maybe again in a twelve-month.

I'll be in the saloon, y'all.

That is all.

[Iamwhomiam]

Painting the lounge with your broad brush is where you should be, if you cast everyone posting in this joint as being racist. And the shame of that is I almost always agree with your opinions, but not this, your stereotyping. Your examination hasn't been rigorous at all, and your intuition misguided, if you come to the conclusion we are all racists.

Please do speak plainly, but please do not lie about what you cannot possibly know.

[minime]

Painting the lounge with your broad brush is where you should be, if you cast everyone posting in this joint as being racist. And the shame of that is I almost always agree with your opinions, but not this, your stereotyping. Your examination hasn't been rigorous at all, and your intuition misguided, if you come to the conclusion we are all racists.

Please do speak plainly, but please do not lie about what you cannot possibly know.

Well, thank you. However, you're painting with a broad brush in General Discussion if you interpret my comments as painting with a broad brush. Of course, I never said that everyone at RI is a racist. Your interpretation is anything but rigorous and your intuition is certainly misguided, if you come to the conclusion that I come to the conclusion that you are all racists.

Really, it's all about the third man and the third state, coming soon to a planet near you.

In a very important way you have proven my point. So, thanks again for playing a part.

See you in the Saloon, or not.