Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris hostage

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Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:09 pm

I'm also wondering how "Sebastien" and the other 20 alleged-or-real hostages managed to survive that intense barrage of gunfire between the cops and the robbers in a narrow corridor 30 yards long, while one terrorist was shot dead and the other "blew himself up".*

No casualties at all among the hostages and police? Not even the slightest scratch? And "Sébastien" himself, completely unhurt and untraumatised? What did the terrorist "blow himself up" with, a Christmas cracker? What were all those guns firing, paintballs?

*Yet another "suicide bomber" who hurt no one but himself on Friday the 13th. Unlucky for some. By my count, that makes seven (in figures:7) "suicide bombers" who might as well have OD'd on sleeping pills for all the harm they did anyone else.
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:26 pm

This is admirably succinct. He notices the obvious anomalies and asks the obvious questions. That's what honest journalists do.

SOTT Exclusive: Bataclan bombers wanted to get out alive? Contradictory reports from French police

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Tue, 24 Nov 2015 12:49 UTC

Read these two accounts. One is attributed to an anonymous "anti-terror" officer who took part in the raid. The other, who also took part, provides his full name.

First, there's this one from the Guardian, from "Jean", one of France's "elite anti-terrorist police":

The Guardian wrote: "They came out like zombies. They were in a terrible state and could hardly walk," Jean told French television. "When we went in, it was really dark. There were dozens of bodies lying on top of each other on the ground, the dead, the injured, the survivors who were pretending to be dead." Jean is a veteran of the assault on the Hyper Cacher Jewish supermarket in January, linked to the Charlie Hebdo attacks, in which Amedy Coulibaly killed four hostages before he was shot dead.

In the Bataclan, where hostages were also taken, the police moved swiftly, clearing the ground floor, helping survivors to safety, before reaching the upper floor. Behind one last door, the remaining bombers, Omar Ismail Mostefai and Samy Amimour, were holed up with 20 hostages, one of whom had been ordered to speak for the terrorists.

"He shouted out that the terrorists were there and that if we opened the door they would blow everything up," said Jean. One hostage, Sebastien, who had pulled a pregnant woman hanging from a window sill to safety, gave an insight into the conversations initiated by the two terrorists.

"They asked us if we agreed with them," he said. "I'll let you imagine the lingering silence of that moment. The most timid nodded their heads and the most daring said 'Yes'. They asked us to serve as lookouts, to yell at the police to stay back and that if not they would blow up their explosive vests."

The terrorists asked Sebastien if he thought money was important and then made him burn a wad of €50 notes.

The attackers then gave police a mobile phone number and at 11.27pm a specialist negotiator, the same man as who had spoken to Coulibaly during the Hyper Cacher siege, called to ask for their demands. "They didn't want to free the hostages. They said get out or we will shoot and we will decapitate the hostages," said Jean. They also said they would throw a body out of a window every five minutes.

Over the next 50 minutes four more calls were exchanged, with it becoming clear negotiations were going nowhere.

The chief of police ordered Jean and his officers to storm the narrow, 30ft corridor where the terrorists and hostages were. Jean described how they burst through the door throwing stun and smoke grenades, then advanced in pairs behind a thick metal shield.

"As soon as the door was open the terrorists opened fire ... the shield alone took about 30 bullets from their Kalashnikovs. The hostages were screaming, throwing themselves on the ground, hugging the walls," said Jean. "Each time a pair of officers got past a hostage, the rest of the team would pull them out of there."

After all the hostages were safely out, officers opened fire with their assault rifles, hitting one man before another detonated his suicide vest, killing all of the attackers.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/n ... or-heroine


Now read this report from the Telegraph:

The Telegraph wrote: New details of the Bataclan siege have emerged suggesting the three attackers were intent on escaping with their lives and had taken drugs. Accounts given by elite French officers overturn the assumption that the gunmen were part of a suicide attack.

They told L'Obs, the French weekly, that the attackers tried to persuade police to let them leave.

Georges Salinas, deputy chief of the police Research and Intervention Brigade (BRI), [full name, rank, and unit identification] said the two jihadist gunmen still alive when his unit arrived "only had one idea in their heads at that moment, which was to get out of there".

Mr Salinas was among the officers who went into the Bataclan after the attack, which left 89 people dead. One of the three terrorists was already dead, he said, shot by a police officer, while the other two were hiding in a corridor with about 20 hostages.

A BRI negotiator, Pascal, spoke to them five times from 11.27pm to 12.18am.

"They were very worked up, very hyper and confused, as though they were under the influence of drugs," he said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -live.html


Any questions?

http://www.sott.net/article/307061-SOTT ... nch-police
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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:42 pm

Meanwhile:
News Outlets Falsely Label Woman A Suicide Bomber

Posted: 11/23/2015 06:39 PM EST

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/has ... 093a58a0e9


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Postby General Patton » Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:57 pm

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34917226
Reports say that a group of armed men may have taken hostages in the northern French town of Roubaix.

Local media said the incident took place at around 19:00 local time (18:00 GMT).

Witnesses reported gunshots being fired. Media reports say the area has been closed off by police.

The incident does not appear to be related to the ongoing security situation in France following the 13 November attacks in Paris.
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Postby tapitsbo » Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:21 pm

^^666th post? Ayy.

Who here thinks that the incoherence of the news stories about these events is largely intentional?
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Postby 82_28 » Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:46 pm

I don't know if it's that I am too clever by half but in the new conference this morning Obama referred to Assad as Mr. Assad a few times but referred to Putin as just Putin. No Mr. before his name when referring to him. Probably nothing there but I noticed it. Referring to one head of state who is supposedly a dictator that has had a hand in this mess and Russia's leader as simply Putin. I got to thinking that the media nor government I don't recall have ever referred to Putin with a Mr. in front of his name ever. Again, probably nothing. But I was paying close attention to the delivery.

There could be a number of reasons for this. I won't tread there quite yet.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:31 am

Germany Preparing to Join Fight Against Islamic State
Parliamentary officials reveal Germany is close to casting aside pacifism and endorsing intervention against jihadists in Syria


By ANTON TROIANOVSKI
Updated Nov. 26, 2015 1:28 p.m. ET
112 COMMENTS
BERLIN—Germany plans to send a warship and reconnaissance planes to support the fight against Islamic State in Syria, senior government officials said Thursday, a move that shows the Paris attacks have forced one of Europe’s least militaristic nations to reconsider its stance.

The plans, emerging a day after a meeting between German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President François Hollande in Paris, wouldn’t immediately involve a combat role for German troops. But they would go well beyond the country’s current efforts to fight Islamic State, which are limited to supporting Kurdish fighters in northern Iraq.

“The German government has today agreed on difficult, but important and necessary steps,” Defense Minister Ursula von der Leyen told reporters after a meeting with lawmakers of the ruling coalition parties. “We have jointly agreed on this in the knowledge that we stand close alongside France.”
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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Postby semper occultus » Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:37 pm

Robert Steele: Was Paris 11/13 a False Flag Event? A Matrix for Evaluating Possibilities

http://www.phibetaiota.net/2015/11/robert-steele-was-paris-1113-a-false-flag-event-a-matrix-for-evaluating-possibilities/


.....Paris may have been a false flag event intended to

legalize the illegal US war against Syria by invoking the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) Article 5 protection clause;

or that it is a means for the party in power in France to lock down the country (neutralizing the extreme right challenging its loose authority);

or that Saudi Arabia and Turkey gain from international publicity consistent with their export of state-sponsored terrorism;

or that Israel is always happy to both punish France for supporting the Palestinians and considering a boycott of Israeli products while also frightening more French Jews into moving to Israel to fill up the illegal settlements being built there at U.S. taxpayer expense


Key Indicators of a Modern False Flag

Early Warning and Public Alarm. First give them something to fear, then show them what to fear, and keep them in fear. This includes a constant churning out of alleged local terrorists such as have been produced by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) in what one author calls “The Terror Factory.”

Scheduled Official Exercises Coincident with the Event. From 9/11, when Dick Cheney scheduled a national counterterrorism exercise so he could control the government, armed forces, and the day in detail, to the most recent attacks in Paris, scheduled official exercises are the single greatest indicator that a catastrophic event is in fact planned and being orchestrated.

Prepared Media Narrative. From the earliest understanding offered up with respect to “Manufactured Consent” and the more recent “Weapons of Mass Deception” that in the case of Paris have also been joined by “Weapons of Mass Migration,” we consistently see a media that has been pre-positioned – in some cases leading anchor personalities “coincidentally” being on site – and pre-briefed, with a narrative and story line ready to roll.

Blocked Public, Media, and First Responder Access. The sponsors of very public false flags are slowly learning they need to block priests and rabbis from attending to the alleged wounded, they need to block both media and first responders from access to interiors of the locations where the alleged bombs exploded and bullets flew (those pesky upholstered chairs without a sign of shrapnel or fire stand out in the most recent event), and they need to shut down or block hand-held video that may reveal false flag activities – for example, alleged shots to the head of terrorist with no sign of impact or blood thereafter.

“Attackers” Die, Actors Live. Evidence continues to mount that many attackers across multiple incidents have been trained by the US military (some sheep-dipped out as alleged dishonorable or administrative discharges), or are active informants for the FBI or local intelligence or police service (as in France), or think they are contractors participating in an exercise where they are a “Red Team” and everyone is supposed to be shooting blanks. Surviving attackers – and actors hired to play surviving victims or relatives — are generally there to support the narrative.

Hospital Triage, Real Estate, and Statistics. The absence of real victims showing up in hospitals (or vastly smaller numbers than alleged to have been killed and wounded), the odd sale of real estate before and immediately after an event, the disappearance of the individuals alleged to have lost relatives, and inconsistent statistics are all indicators of a false flag but must be addressed with care.

Prompt Official Refutation or Dismissal of Expert Voices. As modern false flag operations have matured, perpetrators have been learning how difficult it is to counter formal highly qualified critics of the official narrative. While controlling the media is helpful, when families, firefighters, architects, engineers, and military as well as intelligence professionals all converge on facts that are compelling, the authorities are challenged. So far they are able to drown out the experts, but the timeline toward public disclosure is shortening – it took 25 years for the truth about US Government involvement in the assassination of John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King to be fully documented, 9/11 is on a fifteen year disclosure track, these new false flags and regime change operations (Georgia, Ukraine, Syria, Azerbaijan is next) are on a five to ten year track.

Crack-Down on Alternative Voices. As the Internet makes it possible for intelligent people with integrity to challenge the official narrative, we are seeing more and more punitive expeditions, from threatened investigations to incarceration to murder disguised as suicide. Those who question authority join the ranks of the unemployed, are libeled and slandered, are black-listed without their knowing, added to spam and “hate crime” lists, “inadvertently” put on the “no fly” list or are blocked from entering specific countries, and when all else fails – for those very rare individuals whose voices gain traction– murder most foul (never mind that Gary Webb needed two bullets in the head to commit suicide). It merits observation that there is no due process by which a blocked individual can challenge their back office assassination.

Fast Track Legislation (Already Written) and Bogus Investments. The Patriot Act is a classic example of legislation written before an event and passed immediately after the event without being read or debated. The “deep state” and its financial masters have an agenda that includes an insatiable demand for taxpayer investments (mostly funded by debt levied on future generations). We now know that Iraq was based on 935 lies that led to a cost to the taxpayer of over $4 trillion, with the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) as a direct spin-off. In the absence of intelligence and integrity – evidence based strategy and policy – post-event legislation and budget initiatives should be regarded with great suspicion.

Who Benefits? Following the money is a major part of this, but benefits can be calculated in domestic political advances, military-police-industrial investments, “coincident” decisions favoring specific financial interests, and more.
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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Postby MacCruiskeen » Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:14 pm

seemslikeadream » Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:31 pm wrote:
Germany Preparing to Join Fight Against Islamic State
Parliamentary officials reveal Germany is close to casting aside pacifism and endorsing intervention against jihadists in Syria


By ANTON TROIANOVSKI
Updated Nov. 26, 2015 1:28 p.m. ET
112 COMMENTS
BERLIN—Germany plans to send a warship and reconnaissance planes to support the fight against Islamic State in Syria, senior government officials said Thursday, a move that shows the Paris attacks have forced one of Europe’s least militaristic nations to reconsider its stance.

The plans, emerging a day after a meeting between German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President François Hollande in Paris, wouldn’t immediately involve a combat role for German troops. But they would go well beyond the country’s current efforts to fight Islamic State, which are limited to supporting Kurdish fighters in northern Iraq.

“The German government has today agreed on difficult, but important and necessary steps,” Defense Minister Ursula von der Leyen told reporters after a meeting with lawmakers of the ruling coalition parties. “We have jointly agreed on this in the knowledge that we stand close alongside France.”


So there's that too, now. Ffs. Germany is at war.

Can we call this World War III yet?

"Hey, ISIS colleagues! Let's murder 130 innocent civilians in Paris!" "Great idea! Onwards to victory!" - You have to imagine an "ISIS" so profoundly, abysmally stupid that it just did everything in its power to unite NATO * (invoking its "mutual defence clause") against it, and of course still against Assad too.

Either that, or you have to imagine something else entirely.

*NATO being, of course, the most powerful military alliance in the history of humankind.
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Postby backtoiam » Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:32 pm

So there's that too, now. Ffs. Germany is at war.

Can we call this World War III yet?

"Hey, ISIS colleagues! Let's murder 130 innocent civilians in Paris!" "Great idea! Onwards to victory!" - You have to imagine an "ISIS" so profoundly, abysmally stupid that it just did everything in its power to unite NATO * (invoking its "mutual defence clause") against it, and of course still against Assad too.

Either that, or you have to imagine something else entirely.

*NATO being, of course, the most powerful military alliance in the history of humankind.


Yes. I think this is a signal of some sort. I am almost crazy enough to view this as a public announcement that the ptb considers itself as having won this new "ordering" process, and that the details will now be more rapidly mopped up, instead of a declaration of World War 3. It is obvious that major destabilization with "migrants" is on the table for multiple countries as well. The question in my mind is >>>exactly what do they have planned for humanity that they will need this sort of lock down control for?<<<<
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Postby zangtang » Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:59 pm

the extermination of six thousand million people?
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:18 pm

^^No. Not that many. Workers are still required, and will be in any conceivable future.

WW3 is a war for the world's most essential resources, which are dwindling ever-faster. It is being fought by the USA and its allies vassals, against the rest of the planet.
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:36 pm

The holder of the Twitter account that allegedly reunited "The Pregnant Woman" and "Sébastien"...

http://twitter.com/__F_A_T__/status/666 ... 36/photo/1

...is "copywriter Frans-Alexandre Torreele, 29". He is named in this article, which also carries his photo:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... gnant.html

Here's one of his few tweets, from six days ago:

FAT ‏@__F_A_T__ 21. Nov.

Dear @TheSun your FUCKING "journalists" are still harassing my friends. RESPECT THE VICTIMS OF #Bataclan AND GO FUCK YOURSELF. Regards.

https://twitter.com/__F_A_T__/status/668176645300297732


I never thought I'd see the day when I supported The Sun.

Btw, I suspect that, by now, Mr. Torreele himself may well be as baffled and annoyed by the silence & invisibility of "Sébastien" as I am. As he tweets, here: "we only spoke once by phone". As did his friend, "the pregnant woman". Neither of them ever met him face-to-face.

Two weeks on, no one has the faintest idea who the fuck "Sébastien" is, although he and he alone told the entire world almost everything it "knows" about the Bataclan attack.
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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:39 pm

This photo has been bothering me for days now:

http://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynam ... orpix1.jpg

I'm trying to think what could possibly explain those weird broad smears around the bodies.

The horrible British tabloid The Star has an explanation:

The image – taken from the balcony inside the popular Paris concert hall – shows blood smeared over the auditorium as the wounded were dragged away.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest- ... cre-photo#


From another newspaper account, in the Telegraph:

Around the groups of bodies, wide smears of blood on the floor suggest that several casualties either dragged themselves towards the exit or were dragged outside by courageous friends.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... cture.html


It was close to 1 am before the siege was ended by police. As far as I know, no one was "dragged away" out of the auditorium by anyone during that time. And trained medics (EMTs) certainly wouldn't do such a thing afterwards.

In any case, it would hardly look like that - so neat and regular.and heart-shaped - if people had been desperately dragging their wounded friends to the nearest exit.

If we knew who took this photo, and when exactly, that might help.

Can anyone explain this?

PS Clearer, unpixelated photos can be found by googling. They don't make those smears any easier to explain.
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