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Re: #4thPrecinctShutown in Minneapolis attacked by racist tr

Postby Iamwhomiam » Tue May 03, 2016 12:26 am

Yeah, sure you do.
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Postby backtoiam » Tue May 03, 2016 2:10 am

Yeah, sure you do.


I really do. With all of us, together, we can make utopia. We can....It could be beautiful...

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Postby jakell » Tue May 03, 2016 4:01 am

I don't usually comment on 'random' videos' but, as the thread was being dragged in a grouchy (but predictable) direction, at least this is a positive alternative.

Quite beautiful. I'm trying to recall which RI subject I was coming across the Golden Ratio in connection with, I think it was some of Roger Penrose's stuff in 'Questioning Consciousness'
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Postby backtoiam » Tue May 03, 2016 5:12 pm

Roger Penrose


Was a recreational math fan. This is not Penrose but i think it is good.

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Re: #4thPrecinctShutown in Minneapolis attacked by racist tr

Postby jakell » Tue May 03, 2016 5:48 pm

Not so much maths here, but the long version reminded me of this number funny:




... 3
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Re: #4thPrecinctShutown in Minneapolis attacked by racist tr

Postby American Dream » Wed May 04, 2016 8:03 am

Monday, November 23rd, 2016 neo-Nazis violently took their organizing to the streets and shot 5 demonstrators outside of the 4th precinct. The night of the attack neo-Nazis got into an altercation with demonstrators after being asked to leave. The altercation successfully lured several demonstrators Northeast of the precinct and Plymouth Avenue onto Morgan Avenue. It was significantly darker on the north side of Plymouth Ave and easy to flee northbound away from the precinct. That is when the 5, African-American, demonstrators were shot. Police and paramedics came to the scene after a lengthy wait, especially since this took place in front of the precinct. The police rejected to give medical aid to the wounded protesters when they were asked by other protestors to use their medic training, and instead established a cordon to prevent protesters from pursuing the attackers, who escaped (they were arrested later, after one of them negotiated his surrender via a high school friend who is now a police officer).

Lance Scarsella, a 23-year-old white male from Lakeville, Minnesota is the man who pulled the trigger, but not the only organizer. Events leading to the Nazi attack are interesting. First and foremost the shooter, Scarsella, is a white nationalist with white supremacist ideology and now action. There are also pictures that surfaced of the group who led the fascist attack at the 4th precinct toting guns with the confederate flag in the background. Much of the organizing for this attack took place on 4chan, which is described online as ‘a simple image-based bulletin board where anyone can post comments and share images anonymously.’ Those who accompanied Allen Lawrence “Lance” Scarsella III, 23, were Nathan Gustavsson, 21, of Hermantown, Daniel Macey, 26, of Pine City, Joseph Backman, 27, of Eagan, and Julio Suarez, a 32 year old Hispanic (and believed to be ex-marine) was also briefly held in custody.

The Friday before the attack, November 20th, the shooters infiltrated the encampment. This is known for two reasons: 1) the attackers posted on 4chan using code names that have surfaced throughout the investigation (‘Black Powder Ranger’ being the one of the shooter) stating that they were heading to the 4th precinct to “knock this shit out” while holding a gun in the video. They urged for people to keep watching the stream as they logged off by saying: “stay white”. 2) People of the community that was created by the encampment caught on to the infiltrators during, what was ultimately their recon mission, which allowed them to execute their attack with precision. When they were identified, they were asked to leave. After the infiltration there were messages sent out on 4chan that read descriptions of specific individuals that were “high profile” targets. Those who were participants in the attack were told to “Remember to wear camo /k/lansmen, we will open fire on anyone who isn’t wearing camo.” (http://www.unicornriot.ninja/?p=4833).

Fascism in the United States is a reality. The fact that Donald is polling so well after some of the most outlandish fascist remarks he has made, and after neo-Nazis carried out a successful violent terrorist attack on black protestors at the 4th precinct in Minneapolis, MN, there is simply no denying it. Throughout the 4th precinct shutdown individuals were forced to adapt and learn quickly. We were forced to understand violence and push back from police, white activists, and black activists. While most radicals are aware of neo-Nazism and it’s reality, I think those who are unaware of their activity both politically and on the street level were shocked that the white supremacists followed up their threat and took it to that level.

White supremacists and neo-Nazis terrorized the encampment for the next 4 days, at least. The day following the attacks, four shots were fired in an alley just South of the precinct. United fronts of gang members and others teamed up again to create a united front for armed security in the name of Community Self Defense. Many demonstrators had pointed out that the shooters had had tactical police equipment with them, and shared the sentiment that the police were connected to the shooting. This feeling was widely shared, firstly because community members saw police’s limited and near total neglect of the shooting victims while they were suffering and secondly, because of the common knowledge that the president of the police union, Bob Kroll, was a member of a white supremacist biker gang.

While Scarsella executed the attack, we must maintain an understanding that Nazis are building a nationwide movement similar to BLM or that of the revolutionary left. This is not an isolated occurrence or attack. Fascism, or more simply put – hate – is organizing to take similar action nationwide and globally.


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Postby jakell » Wed May 04, 2016 8:19 am

...While Scarsella executed the attack, we must maintain an understanding that Nazis are building a nationwide movement similar to BLM or that of the revolutionary left. This is not an isolated occurrence or attack. Fascism, or more simply put – hate – is organizing to take similar action nationwide and globally.


As this article is now six months old I would expect evidence of this nationwide movement to start appearing soon ie, not isolated occurrences or attacks.

White Nationalist/Supremacist ideology is not really evidence of such a movement, that's been with us for a while.
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Postby backtoiam » Wed May 04, 2016 9:14 pm

Bruce Rawles and Dan Winter are bad mother fuckers.
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Postby backtoiam » Wed May 04, 2016 9:19 pm

I have all of Dan's videos and i still can't understand it all. Its a good start.
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Postby mentalgongfu2 » Thu May 05, 2016 12:07 am

backtoiam, you're great bro. I love how you define everything in left and right as if it isn't an essentially meaningless distinction and divide and conquer mechanism. It really matters. Like bathrooms. And spice it up with cool mystical metaphysical stuff. I hope this makes sense. I don't have time to elaborate but I will later if I can but not really. I have a link that explains it all but I'm about to board the red eye to timbuktoo but I'll try and look it up later if I can find an electrical adapter at the street market and steal some WiFi from the fish factory.

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Re: #4thPrecinctShutown in Minneapolis attacked by racist tr

Postby American Dream » Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:03 pm

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Postby American Dream » Fri Jul 08, 2016 6:24 pm

http://www.pmpress.org/content/article. ... 8132256830

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How many?

How many of those condemning the shooting of the police in Dallas and equating Micah Johnson with the cops in Baton Rouge, St. Paul and elsewhere who routinely kill people for being black mean what they say, and how many are just saying it because they think they are supposed to? (I am referring to ordinary people, not to the politicians and civil rights leaders who are paid to tell the victims how they should resist their oppressors.) There must be millions in this country whose hearts leaped up at the news that some cops in Dallas got a taste of what they’ve been handing out to others—and they include not only young black people in the cities but whites in the suburbs with a sense of decency who read the news. Where are their voices?

In 1969, a black worker at a Los Angeles aircraft plant, Isaac (“Ike”) Jernigan, who had been harassed by management and union and then fired for organizing black workers, brought a gun to work and killed a foremen; then he went to the union hall and killed two union officials. The political group I belonged to, the Sojourner Truth Organization, published a flyer calling for workers to rally to his defense. Not much came of it until… the League of Revolutionary Black Workers in Detroit reprinted our flyer in their paper. A Chrysler worker, James Johnson, responding to a history of unfair treatment including a suspension for refusing speedup, killed two foremen and a job setter, and was escorted from the plant saying “Long Live Ike Jernigan.”

The League waged a mass campaign on Johnson’s behalf, including rallies on the courthouse steps, while carrying out a legal defense based on a plea of temporary insanity. The high point of the trial came when the jury was led on a tour through Chrysler; it found for the defense, concluding that working at Chrysler was indeed enough to drive a person insane. (This was Detroit, and many people already knew that to be true.) Johnson was acquitted and sent to a mental hospital instead of to prison; as an added insult, Chrysler was ordered to pay him workmen’s compensation.

Micah Johnson will not have his day in court. The police, after “negotiating” with him for three hours, blew him up with what the papers are calling a “remote-controlled explosive delivered by a robot” (presumably the same as the drones used by the U.S. military in Afghanistan). Even though they claim to have kept him on the phone for three hours, the only statement of his they have seen fit to release was that he was “upset about the recent police shootings” and that “he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers.”

Even those few words will be enough to allow decent people (and others) to answer the most important question of all: Which side are you on?
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Re: #4thPrecinctShutown in Minneapolis attacked by racist tr

Postby American Dream » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:15 pm

TW


"I really like the cops"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xlac0nMRyas


Come and gather round you people now and listen to me yak,
All you doctors and you lawyers and you folks who push the crack,

And you folks who push the buttons and you folks who push the mops,
Come listen while I tell you how I really like the cops!

Oh I really like the cops, I think they're pretty cool,
I like them in my neighborhood, I like them in my school,
I think the cops are wonderful. I think the cops are nice.
And I like to have a broken jaw and carry a pack of ice.

I really like the cops. I think they're pretty neat.
I like it when they take my face and smash it in the street,
And then they drag me to the station, and they lock me in a room,
And then I like it when they rape me up the anus with a broom.

I really like the cops. They make me want to sing.
You know my favorite movie is that tape of Rodney King,
And so I really get pissed off whenever somebody like you
Suggests we should subject them to a citizen's review.

I really like the cops. I am so glad that they're around.
To hassle me and ticket me for sitting on the ground.
I really love the cops, I'd be so sad if they were gone.
There's something about a uniform that always turns me on.

I really like the cops. Just to see them gets me high;
I hope that I get taken into custody and die.
And then I hope that every fact that's in the coroner's report
Gets chucked into a dumpster so it won't be heard in court

And when I hear you making statements that you know are quite obscene,
Like how the cops are nasty, and how the cops are mean,
It makes me want to tell you that you ought to get some class
And help your local officers by kicking your own ass!

So gather round you people now and listen to me yak,
All you doctors and you lawyers and you folks who push the crack,

And you folks who push the buttons and you folks who push the mops,
Come listen while I tell you how I really like the cops!
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