The “Alternative Right"

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Postby American Dream » Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:22 am

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The alt-right meets the media — and debates the Jewish question

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Jared Taylor, the editor of American Renaissance, addressing a news conference on the alt-right in Washington, D.C., while Richard Spencer, who claims to the progenitor of the term, looks on, Sept. 9, 2016.


WASHINGTON (JTA) — This was the unveiling of the alt-right, this was its moment, its confident stride onto the national stage, and there was unity — until there was internal dissent, until there was pronounced disagreement, until there was almost – almost – a voice raised against one’s white European kith and kin.

And of course it was about the Jews.

Rewind a bit.

The email said the alt-right guy would meet you in front of Old Ebbitt Grill, the hoary Washington eatery beloved by tourists and hard by the White House. He would “be wearing a charcoal suit and brown tie,” the email said, but these details turned out not to be necessary. The crewcut, the sunglasses, the tight, thin frown, the pacing: This was the alt-right guy.

“It’s at the Willard Hotel,” he said and directed me around the corner to the historic hostelry where Abraham Lincoln, destroyer of the Confederacy, spent the night, and where Julia Ward Howe wrote the “Battle Hymn of the Republic,” the anthem that inspired destroyers of the Confederacy.

Three luminaries of the movement had hoped to convene on Friday at the nearby National Press Club for a news conference at last explaining to the benighted media the movement that has embraced Republican nominee Donald Trump — a movement that Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton hopes to attach like a carbuncle to her rival, along with its viciousness and its racial preening. (Trump has adopted some of the movement’s symbols, and at first was reluctant to renounce them; in recent weeks he has renounced groups associated with the movement.)

According to the conveners, threats against the National Press Club led the institution’s leadership to shut them out, hence the need for secrecy. And so we ended up in the Willard Hotel — in the Peacock Room, appropriately — for two solid hours of triumphant strutting.

“I don’t think the National Press Club is ever going to censor the Flat Earth Society or some bizarre space-age ‘Star Trek’ convention,” Richard Spencer, who also wore a crewcut and favored dramatic stage whispers, said at the outset. “They’re censoring us and there is a reason for that, and that is because we are right.”

“They” were censoring the alt-right because of its role in propelling Trump, whom Spencer said was not so much admired for his positions – although his foreign and immigration policy were appealing – but for his style.

“It’s about style over substance, the fact that he doesn’t back down, the fact that he’s willing to confront his enemies on the left, there’s something about that,” he said. “This is what a leader looks like, this is someone who can make the future.”

There were maybe 50 people in the room, and a good portion of them were not media but professional, eager fans knowingly chuckling at inside jokes and nodding at the opaque terminology. (The comparison with Trekkies was not inapt.) There was also the woman with the long gray hair, wrapped in a tallit, weaving about the back recess of the room – was she a confused alt-righter? A protester? A bat mitzvah guest escaped from the ballroom down the hall?

“I’ve seen billowing flags with eagles with a tear,” said Spencer, explaining the logo he unveiled for the occasion, a convening of three triangles approximating an “A” and an “R.” “If I had billowing flags and crying eagles, I would not be a member of the alt-right.”

That didn’t exactly explain the triangles, and no reporter had suggested flags and eagles as an alternative, but the true believers understood, or at least believed they understood, and erupted into giggles, much to Spencer’s grinning satisfaction.

Giggles, chuckles and suppressed guffaws, similarly, spewed forth whenever Spencer, or anyone, said “cuck” or “cuckservative” and when Spencer explained its etymology, deriving from the word cuckold, and then explained the etymology of the word cuckold (he really thought we were idiots), from the cuckoo bird, which lays its eggs in the nest of other birds. Conventional conservatives were cuckolded because everything they were doing was for the benefit of others, or “others” – immigrants, Hispanics, blacks.

“We talk about the things people are afraid to talk about, and that is because they are true,” said Spencer, who is president of something called The National Policy Institute – although he also said that for now he abjures “policy” – and who, beaming, claimed to be progenitor of the term “alt-right.”

Spencer and the two other movement leaders who convened the conference — Jared Taylor, the editor of the American Renaissance, which spotlights race and immigration, and Peter Brimelow, the editor of VDARE, which focuses on immigration and race — agreed on their joy in Trump’s triumphant rise. And plenty of other stuff, too: the celebration of whiteness, the weird insistence that while whites outsmarted blacks and Hispanics, Asians outsmarted us all, so how could we, the media, call these three musketeers white supremacists? Call them Asian supremacists!

Guffaw.

There were outbursts like “Gas the kikes!” by Taylor, quickly followed by an explanation that this is the kind of expectoration unacceptable even on the alt-right, or at least the alt-right as imagined by Taylor.

There were the inside jokes that transitioned from weird to disturbing: Brimelow was describing the pending dystopia he believed inevitable and saying he was glad his wife allowed him to teach his children to shoot.

“At my advanced age, I have three little girls,” he said in an accent still redolent with England’s north, and he paused and eyed Spencer before adding with emphasis, “one of them a brunette.” They both laughed.

There was the insistent, unapologetic embrace of the retrograde. A journalist asked if there were women among the alt-right leadership. There were a few, Taylor said, but male leadership was likelier because it was. Spencer said there were plenty of women “fans” – not activists or contributors, mind you, but “fans,” in all its intimations of ebullience and unalloyed groupie-love.

There were mild disagreements. Taylor wanted the instruments of government removed as a means of encouraging like races to gravitate toward one another and self-sovereignty, believing that outcome was a natural evolution. Spencer wanted to formally establish a white ethno-state.

These were quibbles, fodder for a friendly argument later in the Willard bar, where the trio said they could be found after the formal part of the day was through.

And then there was the Jewish question.

“I tend to believe that European Jews are part of our movement,” Taylor said. “I think it is unquestionable there has been an overrepresentation by Jews [among] individuals that have tried to undermine white legitimacy.”

But, he said, the same is true of Episcopalians.

“Does that mean all Jews are enemies of the white race? I reject that,” Taylor said.

Spencer insisted there was no room for Jews in his white ethno-state – he was happy to work with the Jewish ethno-state, he said, a tiresome reduction of what Israel signifies, but Jews would not assimilate.

“I think most on the alt-right recognize that Jews have their identity and they’re not European,” he said. “Jews have a very different history.”

Brimelow tried to mediate between Spencer and Taylor, saying that Jews seemed all right, but that Jewish organizations were on “the wrong side.” Soon, however, he was digressing back to his imagined dystopia.

“Jews are disproportionately represented in every kind of craziness,” he continued, apparently referring to the Jewish groups, and “if my pessimism about the future of the country is correct, they will pay for it,” presumably at the hands of his three armed little girls, including the brunette.

Spencer was unswayed, continuing, “Europeans are Europeans and Jews are Jews. To call Jews European is to insult them.”

Taylor, his modulated tones slightly unmodulating, rejoined: “I don’t think that a Jewish person who identifies with the West or with Europe is something we should deny,” he said. Not many Jews would think of themselves that way, he said, “but I don’t think it’s an insult to them” to give them the option.

The talk quickly returned to an area of assent, white identity, and feathers were unruffled.

“I want my grandchildren to look like my grandparents,” Taylor said, “not like Fu Manchu or Whoopi Goldberg or Anwar Sadat.”

There were nods of agreement and more pledges to continue the conversation in the Willard bar.

As the room emptied, I prayed silently that Taylor would enjoy good health long enough to behold a grandchild with a pointed goatee, thick braids, foot-long fingernails and a prayer bump, and I recalled his opening remarks, and his overarching predicate for the existence of racial differences.

Asians consistently averaged highest on IQ scores, Taylor said, then came whites, Hispanics and blacks. Lest anyone blame this on cultural or social bias in the tests, he said, the same descending order was attached to the ability to recite numbers in reverse order from memory: Asians are most adept, then whites, then Hispanics, then blacks.

I have no idea if this was true — if anything he said was true — but this “factoid” stuck out for me: My younger son once scored off the charts in the reverse order memory test. The assessor was amazed: She would increase each string of random numbers, and he would accurately rattle them off in reverse order – and never faltered. No one had scored like this, she told me.

I will confess to briefly entertaining a future for him at blackjack tables, but soon repressed any nascent pride. This was a parlor trick. (Oh, and he’s not Asian.)

Contemplating those cursed blocks of blank space on the second page of summer camp applications headed “what are your child’s best qualities,” I tend to scribble in words like “kindness,” “humor,” “resilience,” “musicality.” I’m sure other parents have characterological lists they swear by.

Few, I think, would include “Reciting from memory numbers in reverse order.” Since the test, I hadn’t even remembered it until Friday. As a quality, it seems as crimped and reductive as, well, skin pigment, eye color and hair tint.

Like Brimelow, I came away imagining a dystopia, but mine included children segregated according to their ability to ace memory tests. I saw Taylor drilling a grandson, dressed in 1920s finery, on reverse recitation of lists of randomly generated numbers.

I shook off my reverie and looked around for the woman in the tallit. She had disappeared.
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby American Dream » Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:13 pm

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Trump and the Alt-Right
Pepe and the stormtroopers

How Donald Trump ushered a hateful fringe movement into the mainstream
Sep 17th 2016

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FIRST, an apology, or rather a regret: The Economist would prefer not to advertise the rantings of racists and cranks. Unfortunately, and somewhat astonishingly, the Alt-Right—the misleading name for a ragtag but consistently repulsive movement that hitherto has flourished only on the internet—has insinuated itself, unignorably, into American politics. That grim achievement points to the reverse sway now held by the margins, of both ideology and the media, over the mainstream. It also reflects the indiscriminate cynicism of Donald Trump’s campaign.


Much of the Alt-Right’s output will seem indecipherably weird to those unfamiliar with the darker penumbras of popular culture. It has its own iconography and vernacular, derived from message boards, video games and pornography. Its signature insult is “cuckservative”, directed at Republicans supposedly emasculated by liberalism and money. Its favourite avatar is Pepe the frog, a cartoon-strip creature co-opted into offensive scenarios; one Pepe image was reposted this week by Donald Trump junior and Roger Stone, a leading Trumpista, the latest example of the candidate’s supporters, and the man himself, circulating the Alt-Right’s memes and hoax statistics. Its contribution to typography is the triple parentheses, placed around names to identify them as Jewish.

To most Americans, the purposes to which these gimmicks are put will seem as outlandish as the lexicon. One of the Alt-Right’s pastimes is to intimidate adversaries with photoshopped pictures of concentration camps; a popular Alt-Right podcast is called “The Daily Shoah”. To their defenders, such outrages are either justified by their shock value or valiantly transgressive pranks. Jokes about ovens, lampshades and gas chambers: what larks!

Jared Taylor of American Renaissance, an extremist website, dismisses these antics as “youthful rebellion”. (Mr Taylor is also involved with the Council of Conservative Citizens, which Dylann Roof cited as an inspiration for his racist massacre in Charleston last year.) But the substance behind the sulphur can seem difficult to pin down. The term Alt-Right, reputedly coined in 2008 by Richard Spencer of the National Policy Institute, a bogus think-tank, encompasses views from libertarianism to paleoconservatism and onwards to the edges of pseudo-intellectual claptrap and the English language. Many Alt-Righters demonise Jews, but a few do not. Some, such as Brad Griffin of Occidental Dissent, another website, think “democracy can become a tool of oppression”, and that monarchy or dictatorship might be better; others, such as Mr Taylor, disagree. Some are techno-futurists; others espouse a kind of agrarian nostalgia. Many mourn the Confederacy. Mr Griffin thinks that, even today, North and South should separate.

Yet from the quack ideologues to the out-and-proud neo-Nazis, some Alt-Right tenets are clear and constant. It repudiates feminism with misogynistic gusto. It embraces isolationism and protectionism. Above all, it champions white nationalism, or a neo-segregationist “race realism”, giving apocalyptic warning of an impending “white genocide”. Which, of course, is really just old-fashioned white supremacism in skimpy camouflage.

That is why the term Alt (short for “alternative”) Right is misleading. Mr Taylor—whom Heidi Beirich of the Southern Poverty Law Centre, a watchdog, describes as the movement’s “intellectual leader”—says it represents an alternative to “egalitarian orthodoxy and to neutered ‘conservatives’.” That characterisation elevates a racist fixation into a coherent platform. And, if the Alt-Right is not a viable political right, nor, in the scope of American history, is it really an alternative. Rather it is the latest iteration in an old, poisonous strain of American thought, albeit with new enemies, such as Muslims, enlisted alongside the old ones. “Fifty years ago these people were burning crosses,” says Jonathan Greenblatt of the Anti-Defamation League, a venerable anti-racist group. “Today they’re burning up Twitter.”

Probably the best that can be said for the Alt-Right is that its mostly youngish adherents are naive: unaware that 21st-century America is not the worst society the world has ever conjured, and so prime exemplars of the pampered modernity they denounce. Their numbers are hard to gauge, since they mostly operate online and, as with most internet bullies, anonymously: like dissidents in the Soviet Union they must, Mr Taylor insists, for fear of punishment. As with pornographers, though, the web has let them forge like-minded communities and propagate their ideas, as well as harass critics and opponents (particularly those thought to be Jewish). Online, they have achieved sufficient density to warrant wider attention. There, too, they and Mr Trump found each other.

The association precedes Mr Trump’s hiring as his campaign manager of Stephen Bannon, former boss of Breitbart News, a reactionary news website that Mr Bannon reportedly described as “the platform for the Alt-Right”, and which has covered the movement favourably. Already Mr Trump had echoed the Alt-Right’s views on Muslims, immigration, trade and, indeed, Vladimir Putin, whom Alt-Righters ludicrously admire for his supposed pursuit of Russia’s national interest. Pressed about these shared prejudices (and tweets), Mr Trump has denied knowing what the Alt-Right is, even that it exists—unable, as usual, to disavow any support, however cretinous, or to apply a moral filter to his alliances or tactics.

This is not to say he created or leads it, much as Alt-Right activists lionise his strongman style. Mr Taylor says Mr Trump seems to have “nationalistic instincts that have led him to stumble onto an immigration policy that is congruent with Alt-Right ideas”, but that “we are supporting him, not the reverse.” Breitbart, Alt-Righters say, is merely Alt-Lite. The true relationship may be more a correlation than causal: Mr Trump’s rise and the Alt-Right were both cultivated by the kamikaze anti-elitism of the Tea Party, rampant conspiracy theories and demographic shifts that disconcert some white Americans.

Unquestionably, however, Mr Trump has bestowed on this excrescence a scarcely dreamed-of prominence. As Hillary Clinton recently lamented, no previous major-party nominee has given America’s paranoid fringe a “national megaphone”. Many on the Alt-Right loved that speech: “it was great,” says Mr Griffin. “She positioned us as the real opposition.” Because of Mr Trump, the Alt-Right thinks it is on the verge of entering American politics as an equal-terms participant. “He is a bulldozer who is destroying our traditional enemy,” says Mr Griffin. Mr Trump may not be Alt-Right himself, but “he doesn’t have to be to advance our cause.”
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby tapitsbo » Tue Sep 20, 2016 3:30 pm

Ah, the controlled opposition alt-right. The Ukrainization of America.

Creepy PR people like Spencer promise a vast constituency some sort of fast-food catharsis but don't deliver one iota on political representation for them.

What's there not to like for someone like American Dream?

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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby PufPuf93 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 3:31 pm

Good to see you Iamwhoiam.

I see the Pepe frog but don't understand the tie between Pepe the frog and the movie The Oregonian (new to me) and alt-right.
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby American Dream » Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:53 pm

LGBT media condemns Out Magazine for Milo Yiannopoulos puff piece

A coalition of LGBT journalists calls for a higher standard when reporting on the lives of LGBT people.

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CREDIT: OUT MAGAZINE/JILL GREENBERG

On Wednesday, September 21, Out Magazine published a profile of Milo Yiannopoulos, the Breitbart Tech editor who is a prominent figure in the alt-right movement and a well-known internet bully. The glamorizing piece, which was originally published with an editorial note defending it, included an exclusive interview with Yiannopoulos, as well as a photo shoot playing on the theme that he’s simply a clown. The following is a response from journalists, columnists, and organizers across LGBT media.

An open letter from members of the LGBT media:

The Out Magazine profile of Milo Yiannopoulos is a serious problem. It’s not because Yiannopoulos was mentioned, nor even because he was profiled. It’s because the profile negligently perpetuates harm against the LGBT community. We expect more from our colleagues.

We are all painfully aware that gay, white, cisgender male narratives have too-long dominated queer media, including those of us who are ourselves gay, white, cisgender men. Just this week, we saw our sisters at AfterEllen.com have to cease editorial operations because a company decided that lesbians were not profitable enough — oblivious to how many bi and lesbian women found important community there. The excess of this narrow branding of the queer community results in erasure of all those who are not highlighted, an erasure that allows stereotypes, discrimination, and abuse to continue unabated against those invisible intersections.

The Out profile of Yiannopoulos represents the peak of this harm. Here is a white supremacist whose entire career has been built on the attention he can get for himself through provocation. His attacks against women, people of color, Muslims, transgender people, and basically anybody who doesn’t like him are as malicious as they come, and he catalyzes his many “alt-right” followers to turn on any target he deems worthy of abuse. This puff piece — complete with a cutesy clown photoshoot — makes light of Yiannopoulos’s trolling while simultaneously providing him a pedestal to further extend his brand of hatred. Indeed, he does so in the profile itself, openly slurring the transgender community, which Out published without any apparent concern.


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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby Luther Blissett » Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:41 pm

Openly slurring the transgender community…sounds familiar.
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:32 pm

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My apologies. My intention was to include the date of the film, but I had two windows open and lost the one with the date. Copyright 2010, released in 2011, to show it was not all that new. The meme. Someone mentioned Pepe was a recent creation. I wanted to demonstrate he's been around for quite awhile, at least since 2005, when artist Matt Fune created the comic series Boy's Club.

4Chan, which I have never visited, seems to be able to corrupt the corruptible as well as the innocent.

Pedro the frog seems to have been the unfortunate victim of 4-Chan meme manipulation and has now become Pepe the castigating Frog.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/pepe-the-frog

Hmm... 4chan ~ fortune
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby PufPuf93 » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:41 pm

Iamwhomiam » Sat Sep 24, 2016 11:32 am wrote:Image

My apologies. My intention was to include the date of the film, but I had two windows open and lost the one with the date. Copyright 2010, released in 2011, to show it was not all that new. The meme. Someone mentioned Pepe was a recent creation. I wanted to demonstrate he's been around for quite awhile, at least since 2005, when artist Matt Fune created the comic series Boy's Club.

4Chan, which I have never visited, seems to be able to corrupt the corruptible as well as the innocent.

Pedro the frog seems to have been the unfortunate victim of 4-Chan meme manipulation and has now become Pepe the castigating Frog.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/pepe-the-frog

Hmm... 4chan ~ fortune


That link is very complete in the history of Pepe and the more recent Pepe alt-right meme.

I have seen the alt-right Pepe elsewhere on the internet and was clueless about origin.

4Chan is also a mystery as my visits have been few and so few that I think may be limited to references and links here at RI
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby American Dream » Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:43 pm

Racist revolutionaries: the alt-right uprising? Part 1

Posted on September 24, 2016 by danyoungnews


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Aired: May 17, 2016 on WFHB Community Radio in Bloomington, Indiana

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This is Dan Young, and I’m here to tell you about how I ended up learning more than I ever wanted to know about the alt-right: a white supremacist movement whose name is short for “alternative right.” Though this group of racist political extremists may be small, they have recently been in the media spotlight, and over the last few weeks I kept finding them popping up in surprising and disturbing places.

For me this all started a few weeks ago when I was on Facebook and, as often seems to happen these days, I commented on a post by an old friend on the topic of the presidential primaries. Through this comment I found myself in a discussion with a man named Keith Preston. Preston said a lot of things that I found strange or did not agree with. And he capped off the exchange by saying that what he wants do to is start a revolution that will overthrow what he referred to as America’s plutocratic imperialist police state with a liberal face.

Rage against rich elites and the political establishment is currently being thrown around by both right and left-wingers, and I at first was not clear where exactly on the political spectrum Keith Preston stood. But it only took me a few minutes on the internet to realize that Keith Preston was closely allied with high-profile white supremacists. Preston has actually written for and edited major white supremacist publications and he’s a regular speaker at white supremacist conferences. He is even closely associated with key figures in the movement known as the alt-right, which is trying hard to make racial apartheid an acceptable topic for conversation in mainstream American politics.

The primary assumption of the alt-right is that race is real, and that it explains pretty much everything about human society.

The old friend who connects me to Keith Preston over Facebook is a Buddhist vegetarian who has chosen a career of service working with developmentally disabled people, and who in the recent past has lived on intentional communities, some of which look very much like stereotypical 1960s hippie communes. I was more than a little surprised that my association with this person would land me in a dialogue with someone who vocally supports overturning the government to establish a segregated white racial homeland. But that wasn’t the end of it.

At roughly the same time, the high profile right-wing news outlet Breitbart published a lengthy article glorifying and celebrating the alt-right, while at the same time describing it as being populated by a mix of white supremacists, including outright neo-nazis. Breitbart even argued that unless areas of the country are voluntarily ceded over to these white supremacists America might face an all out civil war. Although Breitbart does have a reputation for right-wing racism, personally I was shocked to see an endorsement for blatant white supremacism printed in such a high profile publication.

And then, less than a week after the Breitbart piece ran, the left-leaning internet news service Vox published an article by a member of the alt-right movement explaining why their political views led them to support Donald Trump. Coincidentally the author of the piece was a doctoral student at Indiana University in Bloomington.

It was these three events that led me to embark on a research project into the aspiring racist revolutionaries of the alt-right. As I discovered, the alt-right do not just draw their ideas from the KKK and the Nazis. They also borrow and pervert concepts from the far left — including from movements against racism, colonialism and global capitalism.

What the alt-right believes

First I need to give you an overview of the ideas that are at the core of the alt-right’s world view. The primary assumption of the alt-right is that race is real, and that it explains pretty much everything about human society. For members of the alt-right race is not an arbitrary, culturally constructed category of social status — nor is it a way of categorizing people based on their skin color or other physical characteristics.

The alt-right believe that superficial racial characteristics indicate major biological differences that are directly responsible for cultural distinctions between groups. They also think that there are proven biologically determined differences in intelligence between races, and they claim that Europeans have been scientifically proven to be more intelligent than African Americans and some other racial and ethnic groups.

Finally, and perhaps the most key, members of the alt-right believe that all races are always trying to dominate, compete and advance their interests over other races — except for contemporary whites, who they say have been brainwashed to worship ideas of racial equality.

Breitbart even argued that unless areas of the country are voluntarily ceded over to these white supremacists, America might face an all out civil war.

Many involved with the alt-right refer to their views about race as so-called “race realism.” A lot of them prefer to be called race realists rather than white nationalists or white supremacists. However their views would generally be seen as falling into those categories because the alt-right argue that whites are more intelligent than other races, and that instead of pursuing racial equality and harmony, whites should struggle actively against other races to defend white racial interests.

Along with these ideas about race, the alt-right also have their own unique view about racism. They contend that most, if not all, of the racism and other forms of systematic oppression against people of color attributed to whites have either been entirely made up, or have been ridiculously over-exaggerated. They therefore conclude that instances that are viewed as racism are actually the result of people trying to live in multicultural societies — which they say will always fail — or are simply the result of what they see as the inferior genetics of the people of color claiming to be oppressed by racism.

But though the alt-right claim that the kind of racism people usually talk about is not real, they also contend that there is a terrible and truly genocidal type of racism that is currently being used to attack whites in North America and Europe. This kind of racism that the alt-right does recognize consists of pretty much any effort to end racism perpetrated by whites. Such efforts are decried by the alt-right as attempts to demoralize and destroy people of European descent through what they call “white guilt.” They believe this “white guilt” is a primary tool in a larger campaign of “white genocide,” which the alt-right contend also involves allowing large-scale immigration into north America and Europe by Muslims, Latinos, or any other demographic that they see as not being adequately “white.”

They believe this “white guilt” is a primary tool in a larger campaign of “white genocide,” which the alt-right contend also involves allowing large-scale immigration into north America and Europe…

The alt-right believes that this so-called “white genocide” must be fought, and their ideas for how to fight it have been adapted from the struggles of African Americans and other oppressed minorities in America, as well as from international anti-colonial movements. These include fostering an awareness of what the alt-right says is the true, proud, history of white people in order to create white consciousness and white pride so that white people will become politically activated to work for white nationalism through either a return to a more ethnically homogenous and racially stratified America, or a secession movement to create a white ethno-state where European heritage and culture can be kept pure.

To further illustrate the ideas the alt-right have about their own victimization and the struggle they must wage, I am going to play you a clip from a lecture by Richard Spencer entitled “Why Do They Hate Us?” Richard Spencer is a 37-year old rising star of the white supremacist movement. In this clip he is speaking at the 2015 annual conference of American Renaissance, a white nationalist publication that has been around since 1990. In the lecture Spencer goes back and forth between defining the “us” in the title “Why Do They Hate Us?” as referring to either white supremacists like himself, or the white race in general. But the “they” who is hating in the “Why Do They Hate Us?” title refers to anyone who is critical of white nationalism.

Here is the clip from the lecture by Richard Spencer:

“Why do they hate us? Now, when I say hate I’m not referring to a passing emotion or a maniacal contempt or loathing or resentment to some particular individual. I’m referring to something much bigger: to the total delegitimization of the white man, and to what is often called “white guilt” — this feeling that is so pervasive that the white race and white racism are uniquely responsible for suffering and injustice in the world. And moreover, that white consciousness and white power are uniquely wicked and immoral.”


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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby Novem5er » Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:15 pm

Has Pepe the Frog and the Cult of Kek been touched up here? I read back several pages and saw it touched on. I found this interesting and right up RI's alley.


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THE REAL STORY BEHIND HILLARY CLINTON’S “CARTOON NAZI FROG” WILL BLOW YOUR MIND

I’ll cut right to the chase:

Pepe the Frog isn’t a white nationalist symbol.

Pepe the Frog isn’t a harmless meme propagated by teenagers on the internet.

Pepe the Frog is, in fact, the modern-day avatar of an ancient Egyptian deity accidentally resurrected by online imageboard culture.

Does that sound like the most b@tsh#t crazy thing you’ve ever heard?

Strap in, friendo. You’re in for one hell of a ride.


It goes into a lot of detail on the origins of Pepe, the term KEK, and then into the bizarre world of Egyptian mythology and Meme Magic. It's kind of crazy. Here are some tidbits:

Donald Trump and the 2016 Election

By this time, Pepe the Frog had become the unofficial mascot for 4chan’s political discussion board (a highly despised corner of the Internet fittingly entitled “Politically Incorrect”).

/Pol/ is a place where the unspoken outsiders of Millennial culture gather en masse. Here you’ll find the lonely and depressed, the socially inept, the generational dropouts, and all shades of disenfranchised youth—every one of them united with an unshakable underdog mentality that pervades the forum’s every kilobyte.

To call this place a “white nationalist” or “alt-right” message board is categorically incorrect. /Pol/, above all else, is place where our society’s status quo is mercilessly challenged. It’s a melting pot for well-meaning free thinkers and misguided mad men alike.

It is a place of chaos.

....

It wasn’t long before all of these seemingly random elements discussed so far became irreparably tied together within imageboard culture:

- Pepe the Frog (now /pol/’s unofficial mascot)
- Donald Trump (/pol/’s overwhelming candidate of choice)
- Repeating digit post numbers (“GETS”)
- “KEK” (used as an expression of delight, particular in response to Trump’s “trolling” of the establishment, as well as in reaction to unlikely GETs in general)
…and a god was born.

...

Soon, it became all the rage on /pol/ to hail Trump as nothing less than god’s chosen candidate.

But which god’s chosen candidate exactly?

The answer is obvious: Kek.

Remember how we learned that “kek” the meme came about from an obscure Korean language onomatopoeia, completely independently from Pepe the Frog?

Well, it turns out Kek is also—and always has been—an ancient Egyptian deity…

A frog-headed one.

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And it gets weirder from there, folks. Highly worth checking out.

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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby American Dream » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:13 pm

We watched the presidential debate while chatting online with an alt-right teen

By Elle Reeve

September 27, 2016

I watched the first presidential debate between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump while chatting online with an alt-right(ish) teen — let's call him NS. I report on web culture for VICE News and had been interviewing alt-right types about Pepe the Frog, a decade-old meme now associated with Trump's Twitter fans. NS reached out to me late Saturday night with a very long Tumblr message explaining the meme's entire internet evolution.

As I sat in a cab on the way to a party, we debated via direct messages the relevance of social anxiety to the alt-right culture — he felt I was a "normie" more interested in psychoanalyzing the alt-right than engaging with its ideas, which is partly but not entirely true. It was fun. He said he was 19, from England, and going back to college — but of course, in this particularly trolly part of the internet, you never know. We started chatting again on Monday, and I asked him to send me the best debate memes. "im not your meme slut," he protested. But he gave me his meme theories anyway.

He was excited. The debate would be a major event in the meme war. "100 million people watching. no mic mute. no breaks," he said. "trump should offer clinton a cough drop. just place a packet of them on his podium in sight. and just smile at her... 'one cough bitch and it's over.'" At one point, NS paused for reflection: "fuck this is like reality tv but more is at stake."

The young memer offered some insights into the election's meme war. It's important to understand that the core concepts in this subculture have been folded into uncountable layers of irony. Memes have become campaign tools, with Clinton employing a highly organized group of designers to make attractive graphics to push out her message, and Trump occasionally retweeting an alt-right Twitter account, or his son retweeting an alt-right meme.

Clinton's campaign declared Pepe the Frog a white nationalist symbol, which is both true and not true. Pepe is used by many alt-right accounts, but he wasn't invented by them, and the whole point is to provoke a reaction from people who take the memes too seriously.

"You deliberately are trying to offend as many people as possible," the moderator of one Pepe subreddit told me. Half the fun of a Nazi-frog meme is not knowing whether its creator is ironically or seriously committed to national socialism. The mod said, "If people are telling you, 'You can't say that,' what are you going to do? The rules are there to be broken."

Instead of asking whether an idea is ironic or sincere, understand that it's more satisfying if it's both. One such concept is "meme magic" — a mystical belief/joke among meme purveyors that they can meme things into reality. As for his own views, NS said he enjoys the dark jokes and arcane internet history of the alt-right world without actually believing the ideology. "i dont associate with the alt right ideologically. i just connect people within it and find it interesting," he said.


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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby bks » Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:28 am

It's just as everyone always feared: when fascism comes to the US, it will be in the form of a green frog with a orange combover.
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby tapitsbo » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:54 am

Is Duterte alt-right? Asking for a friend.
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Re: The “Alternative Right"

Postby 8bitagent » Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:49 am

tapitsbo » Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:54 am wrote:Is Duterte alt-right? Asking for a friend.


I would consider Duterte part of the rising tide of authoratarian populist strongmen. My take is that the West's/Saudi/corporate wars under Bush and Obama displaced countless Muslims now
desperately seeking refuge in Europe, which is giving a mutant steroid shot in public second look to even the most fringe far right. Duterte graphically explaining how he will cannibalize Filipino
Islamic jihadists was a new bar of wtf in 2016. From Russia to UK, Germany, France and Italy to Spain to Greece we see this pattern lately

I guess one could say its evil vs evil. Neo fascists vs globalist hawk neocons with Islamic extremism as the predictable proxy chess pieces.
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