Active Shooter San Bernardino

[Elvis]

Okay what happened here?

Apparently, police at first sought a black GMC Yukon, one of which was found abandoned and apparantly searched.

Then at some point, "A witness gave Farook's name to police, who quickly learned that he had rented a black Ford Expedition SUV with Utah license plates four days before the attack." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_San_Bernardino_attack)

Here's a FOX update timeline: http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/12/02/s ... ple-killed

UPDATE 3:38p ET: Glenn Willwerth, a witness at the scene, told Shepard that he saw someone “enter into a “black SUV and slowly pull away," though he could not be sure if the person was in fact the gunman.

“He was headed towards me, so I thought that we were actually going to be able to get a good look at him,” he said.

“But it turns out he veered away, and just calmly drove away very slow. I don’t know if that was them, or you couldn’t tell who was in it.”

UPDATE 3:44p ET: Reports suggest that police are now assembling a battering ram to gain access to one of the buildings.

FBI and ATF teams are now on the scene as authorities continue to search for the gunmen.

The Los Angeles Times has reported that law enforcement sources tell them they are looking for at least three heavily armed shooters who fled the scene in a SUV, Shepard Smith said.

Fox News cannot yet confirm these reports independently.

UPDATE 4:02p ET: Authorities are asking the public to be on the lookout for a black Yukon SUV that may have served as the getaway car for the shooter or shooters.

Doors are now locked at the San Bernardino City Hall.

Local airspace has also been ordered to be cleared out, though the reason has not been specified, Trace Gallagher reported.

UPDATE 4:09p ET: Authorities are currently searching a Yukon SUV.

A bomb squad is now inside the building to scan for more devices after the first suspicious device was confirmed to be "neutralized," reported Trace Gallagher.

The conference room where some say the gunmen first opened fire is now said to have been rented out.

Police are working to find out who the people inside were to try to determine a potential motive.

UPDATE 4:30p ET: Shepard Smith said that KTLA is reporting that a black Yukon SUV has been found abandoned.

Authorities have not confirmed that information or where the Yukon was reportedly found.

UPDATE 4:59p ET: San Bernardino Police Chief Jarrod Burguan said in a news conference that there are up to 14 people dead and 14 injured.

He said that up to three suspects fled the scene - possibly in a dark SUV - and their whereabouts are currently unknown.

The Yukon could be the perpetrator's vehicle? Still need to find what happened with the search.

[Elvis]

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=779298915535976&id=358184750980730

Listening to Scanner Live myself now 1555hrs:

Suspect still on foot they are looking for is a make with dark completion, orange combat pants and shaved or bald head.

MSM reports 1520hrs: 1 officer down. Requesting for medical assistance. Unclear if there are 4 suspects now. But it is clear there are 3 suspects.

Radio scanner update1515hrs: one down outside car, one down inside car, one on foot.

The San Diego Tribune reports:

Riverside police dispatchers have broadcast a general advisory that the suspects involved in the shootings in San Bernardino may have fled in a black GMC Yukon, heading northbound on Waterman Avenue, roughly 40 minutes ago.

The broadcast indicated there were unconfirmed reports the suspects were male and of Middle Eastern origin, “armed with AK-47s and wearing body armor.”

The broadcast was part of a region-wide alert issued by the San Bernardino Police Department.

http://www.canyon-news.com/upwards-of-14-dead-14-injured-in-san-bernardino-shooting/44118

There are reports of up to three suspects at large, identities and gender of the suspects are unknown. According to Burguan, “preliminary information indicates the suspects were prepared.” The suspects were believed to be wearing masks, bulletproof vests, black attire and camoflauge. The three suspects were seen leaving the scene in a black GMC Yukon SUV, which was found on the 1800 block of South Business Center Drive, two hours after the first calls of the incident.

[Elvis]

According to KTLA, police have warned people not to talk to the media. At one point during the KTLA live stream, the reporter attempted to interview a witness and multiple officers rushed up and pushed the reporters and the witnesses apart. Below is a screen grab from the live stream showing confrontation.

EDIT: I think this is a "garble"; I can't find any corroboration.

[conniption]

fwiw...(that is to say, I hope you like it) one of my favorite commenters at the MoA blog wrote out a timeline...

Posted by: Noirette | Dec 17, 2015

2 dec. 2015, San Bernardino shootings. Long...sorry...

8.00 - 9.00? Conference begins. “Farook was wearing a button-down shirt and a long beard.” 1

abitrarily: 10.00: “After the first hour” Farook gets up and leaves, quietly. Ppl don’t notice immediately he is no longer there. “Left papers and jacket.” 1

Interval between departure and return as an assassin. “It was unclear how much time elapsed between the time Farook left the party and returned. The chief said time ranges he has been given have been as little as 10 minutes and as much as half an hour, but "I don't know if that's true." 3

10.50 - 10.55 or so. The convener announces a 5 min. break in the conference. (Some ppl were in the bathroom when the shooting began; one at least was on the patio.) 1

close to 11.00. “He returned to the meeting about 11 a.m.” 1 His (+ wife’s?) attire is described in different ways, ski mask, black mask, tactical gear, cargo pants,etc. extra note: 6

10.59 Opened fire. 2

11.04 or so. The shooting lasted 4 mins. “Police arrive 4 minutes after the first 911 calls.” (no link) “Four minutes after the shooting had started, more people in tactical gear came rushing into the room with their guns drawn. “Police!” one said.” 1 “The perpetrators departed the scene before police arrived. The couple fled in a rented SUV.” 2

11.14. “At 11:14 am, the SB Fire Department made a Twitter post about an emergency on the 1300 block of Waterman Avenue” 2

> Very brief event. Times given are difficult to fit into a workable scenario; yet we must of course allow 5 mins. here or there. I have not been able to find out where the SUV (Black Ford Expedition. Utah plates) was parked (ppl assume at the parking in front.) One person did see the SUV leave, but ??

11.00 to 12.00 “By noon, at least one of those co-workers had told investigators that he believed one of the shooters could be Farook.” 1

“A person in the building who knew Farook and identified him by name expressed some concern over his behavior prior to the event and the way that he left. The police chief said officers quickly learned that Farook had rented a vehicle similar to the suspects' vehicle and followed up on addresses.” 3

> A reference to the reported quarrel between Farook and a Jewish co-worker, who was killed in the attack. (Many news sources report the event as a party. Imho this story of a quarrel is garbled news / time shift / made up. They were all listening to a lecture.) Note, the SUV was seen and described: when they drove up / while it was parked / when they fled.

Around or after 14.00. “Based on a tip provided by one of Farook's neighbors, officers went to the perpetrators' Redlands home on North Center Street for surveillance but had to give chase when the perpetrators fled the house.” 2

My transcript police chief: “Tips .. took us to a house in Redlands where we made contact with the suspect vehicle we were looking for, that resulted in a pursuit, which ultimately came back into the city of San Bernardino.” 4

“Police get a tip and go to Farook and Malik’s Redlands townhouse. While there, they see a black SUV speed by and chase it back to San Bernardino.” 5

“Based on a tip, police head to a house in Redlands. They identify a black SUV they had been searching for, and a high speed pursuit ensued heading back into the city of San Bernardino.” (Breitbart, no link.)

“As officers approach the residence to watch it, a vehicle fitting the same profile of the suspects' SUV leaves, and the officers begin a pursuit.” (LA Times, no link.)

Distance SB Redlands = 18 kms (from google), actually the distance home / conference center looks about 10 kms.

The police chief omits saying it was their home. All this is mighty confused, and deals more with the SUV than with their home. It sounds like they were looking for a particular car and had not at all gone to the home of the couple previous. Therefore the ‘tips’…

What can be cobbled together? (others sources are similar, etc.)? Farooks carried out the shooting, left at 11.05, 11.10 (say), drove away in a described SUV, were not followed or elsewise tracked, chased, stopped, etc. They went straight home, or arrived home before around 14.30. I couldn’t find any solid, conclusive news about their movements during the AWOL time. The police arrive at x time (latest 14.50), but the Farooks somehow escape the house, jump in the SUV and speed off. Or they came home when the house was under surveillance, noticed, drove away. Then, the tip about the car doesn’t work.

If Farook had been fingered as a perp shortly after the shooting, surely his address was known, even if his mother was the legal tenant, if that was so? It would be the first place to go (at 11.20, 11.30), and would not require ‘tips’? The videos of the interior do look like their home (e.g. photos of them, obvious presence of a baby, etc.)

15.05. Reports of a police chase of a black SUV, twitter. (no link)

15.00 - 15.30. Shoot out on San Bernadino Avenue, 2.7 km. from the Conference Center. (multiple sources, different times.) Both are killed.

around 18.00 ? First *public* naming of Farook. Wife named at presser 22.00. (As far as I can tell.)

1. WaPo http://tinyurl.com/petlrb6

2. Wiki. http://tinyurl.com/qy5bwsu Is quoted because it tries to stich a narrative out of multiple MSM news.

3. LA Times http://tinyurl.com/zgjgdwj

4. Time.com http://tinyurl.com/hkca8p9

5. SB Sun. http://tinyurl.com/qjgwmb7

6. maybe 3, ‘credible’ reports of 3 shooters, all male, tall, and in black tactical gear. (? no link, it is another issue.) See Sam D at 4 for ex.

Posted by: Noirette | Dec 17, 2015 11:39:28 AM | 37

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and when it comes to witnesses, do you think these things might really exist? (for the price it ought to work...)

[SonicG]

Don't have the time right now but there are a lot variances between that timeline and the FBI complaint that will probably be quite telling. For example the FBI complaint claims that he left an IED (pipe bomb) on a conference room table. I had thought he had left it somewhere else in the building. The timeline said “Left papers and jacket.” But who knows, maybe the pipebomb was in the jacket.

This whole thing with Marquez has my head spinning. The idea of self-radicalization, the coincidental neighbors...jeez hopefully someone will see the story in all of this, if true, and start to dig into it, hopefully revealing that all is not in fact as it seems. Because if this Marquez guy, failed Walmart security guard and fake Russian immigrant husband for $200 a month (!!) could be so easily swayed by Anwar al-Awlaki, why hasn't his magic worked on even more Muslims who have grown up much more immersed in the tradition than Marquez. Marquez, who was going to hide in the brush on a hillside next to the freeway to pick people off?

[elfismiles]

Wow! Great stuff!

The possible early reports of vests would seem to contradict my earlier assumptions that tactical gear might not be usable combined with a bp vest - though I'd have assumed there'd be such combos available.

I think the "ied" left behind could easily have been a known dud left to delay helping victims knowing the bomb squad would be called in and possible aid waited on.

As for the reports of police separating witnesses/survivors from media ... yeah, I saw that live that day. The instances I saw seemed more like unspoken motions of, "hey - these folks have been through a lot - they aren't required to answer your questions" being given through looks as they are gestured / urged to go inside the building they were gathering them all at (presumably for questioning).

And yeah, Enrique! Looks remarkably like people I know and see all the time.

But man - those abandoned SUV reports, triple-suspect reports, running 3rd suspect ... could he have been the alphabet agency / mil-int insider provocateur / FBI-terror-cell-setup-sting-operative whose identity they are protecting cuz he's an 'undercover' dude and they (limited hangout) will use that as the fallback position (failed sting gone live) if they finally say more about that "third, unrelated suspect from another case."

[elfismiles]

meanwhile...

NYT Tacks Editor's Note Onto San Bernardino Story Challenged By FBI
By Allegra Kirkland, Published December 18, 2015, 10:10 AM EST

The New York Times added a three-paragraph editor’s note late Thursday to its story about the social media use of one of the San Bernardino attackers. The addition came a day after the FBI refuted the newspaper’s claim that shooter Tashfeen Malik “talked openly on social media” about her commitment to waging jihad.

According to FBI Director James Comey, Malik and her husband Syed Rizwan Farook discussed their plans to commit terrorism in “direct, private messages” that would not have been accessible to law enforcement.

The editor's note states that the Times' initial reporting was “based on accounts from law enforcement officials” which were then superseded by Comey’s statement.

Key details of the story have been changed to reflect the latest information from the FBI. The headline was altered from "Visa Screening Missed an Attacker’s Zealotry on Social Media” to “U.S. Visa Process Missed San Bernardino Wife’s Online Zealotry.”

The article's lede, which previously stated that Malik "talked openly on social media about her views on violent jihad," was also altered. It now states that U.S. background checks did not catch "what Ms. Malik had said online about her views on violent jihad."

Malik came to the U.S. from Pakistan in 2014 on a K-1 fiancée visa, which requires multiple levels of background checks and screenings.

Several presidential candidates alleged that the government failed to catch Malik's public posts about jihad during Tuesday’s Republican debate in Las Vegas. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) chastised federal authorities for not stopping the shooting, saying Malik “made a public call to jihad and they didn’t target it.”

Read the editor's note below:

The original version of this article, based on accounts from law enforcement officials, reported that Tashfeen Malik had “talked openly on social media” about her support for violent jihad.

On Wednesday, however, the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, said that online communications about jihad by Ms. Malik and her husband, Syed Rizwan Farook, involved “direct, private messages.” His remarks indicated that the comments about jihad were not made in widely accessible social media posts.

Law enforcement officials subsequently told The Times that Ms. Malik communicated with her husband in emails and private messages, and on a dating site. Ms. Malik’s comments to Mr. Farookabout violent jihad were made on a messaging platform, officials said. Neither Mr. Comey nor other officials identified the specific platforms that were used. (This article and headline have been revised to reflect the new information.)

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/n ... itors-note

[Grizzly]

The New York Times Just Memory-Holed This Devastating Obama Admission
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-1 ... -admission

"Obama indicated that he did not see enough cable television to fully appreciate the anxiety after the attacks in Paris and San Bernardino."

A story published by the New York Times late Thursday night caused some major media waves. The story, which was written by reporters Peter Baker and Gardiner Harris, included a remarkable admission by Obama about his response to the recent terror attacks in Paris and San Bernardino, California.

By Friday morning, however, the entire passage containing Obama’s admission had been erased from the story without any explanation from the New York Times. Here’s the passage that was included in the story when it was published Thursday night, courtesy of CNN’s Brian Stelter:

fear, fear fear....

Addendum:
http://www.mackwhite.com/tv.html
TELEVISION AND THE HIVE MIND
by Mack White

[elfismiles]

DEEP POLITICS
DECEMBER 19, 2015 | JAMES HENRY
SAN BERNARDINO: WHAT DID GOV KNOW ABOUT SHOOTERS?
Mass-Murdering Couple May Have Been Known to Law Enforcement Despite Denials
http://whowhatwhy.org/2015/12/19/san-be ... -shooters/

[Grizzly]

Well, If we just gave them more money this would ALL be fixed. Bonuses for everyone!

[JackRiddler]

Have these been posted - the guy who went into the psychiatric ward emerges as prisoner and crown witness to everything.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/18/us/sa ... tment.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/19/us/sa ... erged.html

[tapitsbo]

If Marquez was downloading Al Qaeda's magazine, he would have been under specific, intensive surveillance since it most likely bugged/contains backdoors.

Not that anyone here should need to be reminded of this.

[Elvis]

Thanks for all the inputs.

Farooks carried out the shooting, left at 11.05, 11.10 (say), drove away in a described SUV, were not followed or elsewise tracked, chased, stopped, etc. They went straight home, or arrived home before around 14.30. I couldn’t find any solid, conclusive news about their movements during the AWOL time. The police arrive at x time (latest 14.50), but the Farooks somehow escape the house, jump in the SUV and speed off. Or they came home when the house was under surveillance, noticed, drove away. Then, the tip about the car doesn’t work.

The tips 'work' if someone had induced the Farooks to get into the SUV, then made sure the police were tipped to look for it.

I know that if *I* was a terrorist who had just shot up a couple dozen people and every law enforcement agency in town was looking for me, I'd want to head home, shower, change, grab a bite, kick back and maybe watch the news while cleaning assault rifles.

But man - those abandoned SUV reports, triple-suspect reports, running 3rd suspect ... could he have been the alphabet agency / mil-int insider provocateur / FBI-terror-cell-setup-sting-operative whose identity they are protecting cuz he's an 'undercover' dude and they (limited hangout) will use that as the fallback position (failed sting gone live) if they finally say more about that "third, unrelated suspect from another case."

This is not out of the question. Also, has anyone seenor read about the results of the reported (via police radio scanner, at least) police search of the GMC Yukon?

Have these been posted - the guy who went into the psychiatric ward emerges as prisoner and crown witness to everything.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/18/us/sa ... tment.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/19/us/sa ... erged.html

Thanks for those links. Enrique is the hinge. His FB message "weeks before the massacre" is highly suggestive of entanglement in some kind of setup / 'recruitment' ploy. Little as I know about him, he strikes me as an ideal candidate.

weeks before the massacre, Mr. Marquez wrote on Facebook that “my life turned ridiculous.” When a friend responded, “I think everyone leads multiple lives,” Mr. Marquez replied, “Involved in terrorist plots, drugs, antisocial behavior, marriage, might go to prison for fraud, etc.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/18/us/sa ... tment.html

The Sohiel Kabir investigation in bound to have sparked some FBI efforts at turning people into informants (or patsies):

However, two different anonymous law enforcement officials told CNN that Farook was in the social circle of Sohiel Kabir, an individual who has been sentenced to 25 years in prison for his role in recruiting others for a 2012 plot to attack US soldiers in Afghanistan.

Interestingly, that’s around the same time Farook was allegedly planning an earlier terrorist attack in California — an attack he decided not to go through with, according to his longtime friend, Enrique Marquez.
http://whowhatwhy.org/2015/12/19/san-be ... -shooters/

(Thanks, elfismiles.)


Regarding the "smokeless powder" (which the FBI prefers to call "explosive material"), it's no 'red flag' to me; most firearms hobbyists, like Farook, who spend time at the shooting range etc, have some kind of reloading setup, i.e. making your own bullets. I wonder if any such apparatus was found?

Also maybe worth noting, is that since the "Tashfeen pledged to ISIS on Facebook during the attack" claim of responsibility got shot down, "ISIS" conveniently chimes in to praise and kinda-sorta take credit for the attackers. (A few keystrokes on Rita Katz' computer?)

[Elvis]

2015 GMC Yukon — reported leaving the IRC with shooter(s), one found abandoned soon after:







2015 Ford Expedition — containing the Farooks at the chase terminus:

[SonicG]

Thanks for all the inputs.

Farooks carried out the shooting, left at 11.05, 11.10 (say), drove away in a described SUV, were not followed or elsewise tracked, chased, stopped, etc. They went straight home, or arrived home before around 14.30. I couldn’t find any solid, conclusive news about their movements during the AWOL time. The police arrive at x time (latest 14.50), but the Farooks somehow escape the house, jump in the SUV and speed off. Or they came home when the house was under surveillance, noticed, drove away. Then, the tip about the car doesn’t work.

The tips 'work' if someone had induced the Farooks to get into the SUV, then made sure the police were tipped to look for it.

I know that if *I* was a terrorist who had just shot up a couple dozen people and every law enforcement agency in town was looking for me, I'd want to head home, shower, change, grab a bite, kick back and maybe watch the news while cleaning assault rifles.

But man - those abandoned SUV reports, triple-suspect reports, running 3rd suspect ... could he have been the alphabet agency / mil-int insider provocateur / FBI-terror-cell-setup-sting-operative whose identity they are protecting cuz he's an 'undercover' dude and they (limited hangout) will use that as the fallback position (failed sting gone live) if they finally say more about that "third, unrelated suspect from another case."

This is not out of the question. Also, has anyone seenor read about the results of the reported (via police radio scanner, at least) police search of the GMC Yukon?

Have these been posted - the guy who went into the psychiatric ward emerges as prisoner and crown witness to everything.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/18/us/sa ... tment.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/19/us/sa ... erged.html

Thanks for those links. Enrique is the hinge. His FB message "weeks before the massacre" is highly suggestive of entanglement in some kind of setup / 'recruitment' ploy. Little as I know about him, he strikes me as an ideal candidate.

weeks before the massacre, Mr. Marquez wrote on Facebook that “my life turned ridiculous.” When a friend responded, “I think everyone leads multiple lives,” Mr. Marquez replied, “Involved in terrorist plots, drugs, antisocial behavior, marriage, might go to prison for fraud, etc.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/18/us/sa ... tment.html

The Sohiel Kabir investigation in bound to have sparked some FBI efforts at turning people into informants (or patsies):

However, two different anonymous law enforcement officials told CNN that Farook was in the social circle of Sohiel Kabir, an individual who has been sentenced to 25 years in prison for his role in recruiting others for a 2012 plot to attack US soldiers in Afghanistan.

Interestingly, that’s around the same time Farook was allegedly planning an earlier terrorist attack in California — an attack he decided not to go through with, according to his longtime friend, Enrique Marquez.
http://whowhatwhy.org/2015/12/19/san-be ... -shooters/

(Thanks, elfismiles.)


Regarding the "smokeless powder" (which the FBI prefers to call "explosive material"), it's no 'red flag' to me; most firearms hobbyists, like Farook, who spend time at the shooting range etc, have some kind of reloading setup, i.e. making your own bullets. I wonder if any such apparatus was found?

Also maybe worth noting, is that since the "Tashfeen pledged to ISIS on Facebook during the attack" claim of responsibility got shot down, "ISIS" conveniently chimes in to praise and kinda-sorta take credit for the attackers. (A few keystrokes on Rita Katz' computer?)

The Yukon angle is extremely interesting since witnesses claim the vehicle left the shooting site slowly, so they had those "Utah" plates already? But, they pursued the SUV later when it "failed to yield". Out-of-state plates are fairly easy to spot in California, especially the colorful Utah ones.

The spreading of disinfo. about Tashfeen radicalizing her husband has been blown out of the water by Marquez but the desired impression remains. Refugees = Radical Islamic terrorists...Obvious, but just realized that Marquez converted as a teenager but seemingly never stopped drinking, smoking and possibly doing other drugs as a "punk rocker".

This "enjoyed doing target practice" has come up before but with his "younger sister"?

Previously, Mr. Farook had posted profiles on three Internet dating sites, including one aimed at Indian singles and another at people in the United Arab Emirates. He described his family as “religious but modern.” He said he did not smoke or drink and wrote that he enjoyed “doing target practice with younger sister and friends.”

Tashfeen arrived in the USA in July 2014, becomes pregnant in Aug., gives birth in May 2015, and by Dec. 2015 is a full-fledged cold-blooded killer, firing out of the back of a moving SUV...Did she bring the newborn to nurse it at the shooting ranges? That would have left an indelible impression...
The Sohiel Kabir angle is being willfully obfuscated. There are competing claims about whether there was contact, or merely whether the bust in that case put him off doing something. The latter seems odd because the plot to kill US soldiers in Afghanistan was foiled by an FBI informant, yet Farook had only been planning with his trusted convert/neighbor. Yet there are conflicting reports of a direct connection with Kabir as well as earlier FBI knowledge of Farook.
The LA Times says:

Marquez recently told authorities that he abandoned the plot partly because of the arrests of Kabir and the others, according to a federal criminal complaint released Thursday.

The two groups of plotters did not know one another. But all were young men from a sprawling, unglamorous region east of Los Angeles who frequented local shooting ranges, soaked up radical Islamic literature and were plotting to kill Americans.
http://www.latimes.com/local/california ... story.html

Whereas Fox says

David Bowdich, the FBI special agent in charge of the bureau's Los Angeles field office, confirmed that federal agents were investigating whether any of the men apprehended in 2012 had ties to Farook. Kabir was convicted last September of conspiring to support terrorists and kill Americans overseas. He was sentenced to 25 years in prison this past February.

Farook and Malik’s names likely arose during an earlier FBI investigation but didn’t raise any red flags, according to Reuters, citing a source. It wasn’t immediately clear if that earlier investigation was related to the November 2012 arrests.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/11/ta ... nored.html

And KTLA:

Farook in same 'social circle' as convicted terrorist

The FBI believes Farook had ties to a group of jihadists in California who were arrested in 2012 for attempted to travel to Afghanistan to join al Qaeda.

Specifically, investigators are taking a new look at one of the four men who was arrested in the 2012 case, Sohiel Kabir. Kabir, who was convicted and sentenced to 25 years in prison, was the recruiter who helped radicalize others.

The 2012 probe happened in Riverside, California, not far from San Bernardino. Farook was in the social circle of Kabir, officials told CNN.

The FBI initially investigated five men as part of the Riverside group. The fifth wasn't arrested and hasn't been identified. But Farook was not among those investigated at the time, the officials said.

Also, very interesting, from the KTLA report:

A man believed to be Farook visited the Magnum Shooting Range in Riverside, California, alone on the Sunday and Monday prior to the attacks in San Bernardino according to a source familiar with the matter.

He practiced shooting an AR-15. The source says sign-in logs at the range were paired with surveillance video that have been turned over to the FBI. The FBI was at the range Monday night asking questions and showing pictures of another male (not Farook) asking if that man had ever been to the range.

Marquez? And not pictures of a woman??