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MacCruiskeen » 29 Jun 2016 16:45 wrote:You are a credit to your nation's educational system and a shining example of its current moral state. A Light Unto the Nations, indeed.
FourthBase » 29 Jun 2016 16:34 wrote:You seem to have skipped a sentence or two when reading that article...Prior to 1920, Iraq was ruled under the Ottoman Empire for four centuries.
Oh?
And...?During this time, Iraqi women had little or no rights.
Hmm. I see. Gee, I wonder why.
So the Baath Party and Saddam Hussein were the ones who liberated women, eh. That's your blazing see-how-Americans-fucked-up-a-progressive-Muslim-society hot take? Such a shame that America never backed those noble women-freeing Baathists or Saddam, then. Oh, wait.
MacCruiskeen » 29 Jun 2016 16:58 wrote:What has happened to Rigorous Intuition? Does Jeff ever even look in here? Has he altered the board rules without anyone noticing? Does he actually know that it's now no longer even a Discussion Board, but a garbage-strewn Safe Space for every braindead fascist timewaster with a computer to his name?
MacCruiskeen » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:58 pm wrote:What has happened to Rigorous Intuition? Does Jeff ever even look in here? Has he altered the board rules without anyone noticing? Does he actually know that it's now no longer even a Discussion Board, but a garbage-strewn Safe Space for every braindead fascist timewaster with a computer to his name?
backtoiam » Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:40 am wrote:Usually they just pull her pants down a
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Its fucking disgusting beyond my ability to tolerate it.
FourthBase » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:15 pm wrote:FourthBase » 29 Jun 2016 14:57 wrote:How is it possible so many are blind to the ever-present misogyny here, where women are killed and raped, several incidents daily, and point their finger elsewhere? We are all aware of the excesses of Fundamentalists, regardless their religion, though all of the three main religions, Judaism, Islam and Christianity, all fault woman as the cause of all of mankind's ills. Women had no rights and were considered chattel in the USA until 100 years ago.
The false equivalency and hypocrisy and moral blindness here is off the fucking charts. You realize that, right? "Who are you to judge Nazi culture when you haven't treated Jews well all the time either?"
Would you rather have a daughter grow up in an average American fraternity or would you rather her grow up in an average Islamic village?
Can you imagine if slavery were legal in Islamic cultures* and millions of Africans were enslaved and your response to the disgust and furor over it were, "Stop being a bigot**, what right do you have to focus on Muslims, remember that there are still Klansmen in America who attack black people and it was only 150 years ago when slavery was legal here, too"?
*It still is, by the way, in many. It's the unchangeable word of Allah, after all. Nobody does fundamentalism as seriously as Muslims do.
**It's just a parasitic meme system. It's not a race. I would be just as appalled by most forms of Islam if all 1.6 billion Muslims were blond blue-eyed pale-as-snow white people believing in and enforcing the same inhumane bullshit.
Would you rather have a daughter grow up in an average American fraternity or would you rather her grow up in an average Islamic village?
Harvey » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:00 pm wrote:Maybe a "Delete Draft/Return To Forum" button next to "Save Draft" would help.
Nordic » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:24 am wrote:(And just to answer the question is rather have my daughter raised in a small Muslim village than an American fraternity any day of the week)
Searcher08 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:36 pm wrote:Harvey » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:00 pm wrote:Some of my greatest contributions to RI were by not posting
Feminists in Ireland Say No To Pegida
Saturday February 13, 2016
The Neo-Nazi group Pegida is attempting to establish a branch in Ireland this Saturday in Dublin. Pegida, the "anti-Islamifacation" group that is attempting to hijack anti-establishment politics by placing the blame of the current global capitalist crisis on the shoulders of refugees and migrants: those with no systemic or economic power in our society.
Pegida Ireland is trying to mask their vitriolic racism as concern against rape amongst other things. This feminist group says stuff your concern.
After the New Year's Eve attacks in Cologne the term "Rapefugees" exploded even though it was already in use beforehand due to the Islamophobic and racist idea that all Muslim women are victims in need of a white knight in shining armour. Racists are now parading a faux concern of violence against women as an attempt to justify their unjustifiable racism.
The attacks in Cologne were deplorable to say the least. We must be clear on this; just because the perpetrators of violence against women belong to a vulnerable group does not mean that we absolve them of their crimes. Any man who is abusive and/or physically violent to a woman is deserving of the finest treatment the likes of the Gulabi Gang has to offer.
We must reinforce this message alongside the message that violence against women can never be an excuse for racism. The Cologne Attacks does not automatically make all refugees rapists. When white men rape mass condemnation such as what we have seen here is virtually non-existent.
If the Cologne Attacks had been perpetrated by white men this contrived concern of violence against women would not be seen. If white men had been responsible for this we would have - at best - been met with a wall of silence by these fascists. At worst we would have been treated to the finest examples of rape culture; the occurrence of every individual attack would have been questioned, outright denial would be flashing across our internet feeds as well as insistence that the victims "should not have been dressed" in whatever way they were dressed, or "should not have been drinking" or any other way that a victim can be blamed for something that they did not cause.
These people do not actually care about rape, violence against women or feminism. In fact, these people have web pages dedicated to exposing them as rapists, pedophiles and members of pedophilia rings. Tommy Robinson, co-founder of the fascist English Defence League and the man responsible for darkening Ireland's doorstep with Pegida was himself arrested for attacking an off-duty cop, who happened to be a neighbour, when the cop intervened in a domestic issue. It’s not clear what the domestic issue was but I doubt it was a heated debate on the best ways to advance feminism.
This is not a case of "you cannot come here for fear that you will rape women", on the contrary, it is a case of "if anyone is going to rape our women it will be us". Being a refugee, otherwise known as someone fleeing a desperate situation, does not make you a rapist by default and going by the webpages to be found when googling "EDL rapist" (or anything similar) it could be easily thought that most fascists are rapists.
A strong feminist presence is needed on Saturday to make sure that these fascists know, in no uncertain terms, that they do not act in our interests. They spout the same ideology that led to 115 recorded attacks against Muslim women the week after the Paris Attacks in the UK alone. The UK charity, Tell Mama, a helpline for Muslims who receive physical or verbal abuse recorded these attacks as a 300% rise.
Most of those who were attacked were women and girls aged between 14 to 45 and most of the attacks were at the hands of white males between the ages of 15 and 35 whose names are probably to be found on the membership list of the EDL or Pegida. They have no concern for ending violence against women.
Most of those who were attacked were recorded by the charity as being in traditional Islamic dress. Should a woman wish to dress in accordance with her faith she should be able to do so without fear of attack. No matter what women wear we never deserve abuse - physical or verbal - and we should target those who target women for wearing the hijab, burqa or any other Islamic dress.
Feminism has a shameful history of leaving women of colour behind; of ignoring how sexism and racism intersect to make life even worse for women of colour and throwing them under the bus to further a white feminist agenda. We have a duty to stand up to these fascists this Saturday.
We must send Pegida and those of a similar mindset packing, we cannot allow them a platform, or give them any opportunity to imitate the actions of their UK counterparts through attacking our sisters.
We say no to violence against women. We say no to Pegida. We say no to fascism in all of its ugly forms.
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